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MediJuana
09-29-2008, 04:52 AM
The smell of a fresh thread...only to be stunk up by the dankness.

Container: For the past week I've been building my grow box. I took two 50 gal rubbermaid containers, spray-painted the inside semi-gloss white, and applied velcro around the rim of both boxes. This creates a reliable light-leak-free seal that keeps both boxes in place. (one upside down on the other)

Ventilation: I'm excited to see if my vision is going to work well, I took a twin window fan that has 3 speed settings and reversible fan settings. I can run both as intake, both as exhaust, or one opposing the other. I am still debating on cutting a few holes in the bottom to let the airflow pass upward through the plants but I am strongly considering it. I made a template to cut out the right shape in the top of the grow box (physical bottom of the top box), turned out nicely and all I need to do is seal it. When the lights are off, outside light can easily leak through the fan so I'm going to figure out something to at least dim the light, perhaps some porch screening on the inside of the box and some type of odor eliminating fabric on top.

Lighting: I'm still thinking about the amount of cfls to use; Right now I'm planning on lining the mid-section of the box with 6-10 smaller cfls, and suspending 4-5 bigger ones from the top and raising them as I go. This allows maximum penetration throughout the grow, allowing all lower bud sites to photosynthesize to full potential. Ideally, one 150-250 watt MH and HPS would max out the yield but there is certainly not enough room for that kind of intensity, so cfls will have to do. Studies have shown that cfls spike resin production, and give off lower amounts of heat with exceptional lumens per watt.

Plants: All you connoisseurs out there know first things first, quality over quantity. I plan on vegging 3 plants out 4 to 6 weeks (space permitting) LST if necessary, definitely for the Vanilluna due to its taller stature. Out of these 3 plants 2 will be Querkle by TGA Subcool Seeds and the other plant will be Vanilluna by the one and only DJ Short. Praying for at least 2 females, I will flower until they're done, no shorting here! Patience pays.
And I'm not predicting any dry yields, all I want is some superb smoke!

Genetics:
Querkle (TGA)- This Indica dominant hybrid has a great taste and out of a 5 plant test run all 4 females turned a nice shade of purple with warm temps throughout. Our goal was to recreate the nice grape flavor but ad some speed to the slow Urkle mom and the results are better than we expected and finding 2 keeper moms from the very small test run we did. Results from the field verify mild variation, good yields and fantastic flavor and colors. This hybrid has been featured in both Skunk and Hightimes magazine.
Phenotypes â??Two main females one Short and very purple with grape flavors, the variation is a slightly more SQ dom with a taller frame and more sativa buzz.
Height- Short and dence does well un topped but faster than Urkle.
Yield-Medium to heavy if extended veg time is given mainly due to bud density.
Indoor has only been tested so far
Best way to grow-Vegged to a large bush Or untopped in scrog.
Harvest Window-8 weeks
Sativa/Indica 20/80
Hybrid- Urkle x Space Queen
High type- Indica head and grape taste make it total all day headstash.
Smells: Grapes, fruit, berries, musty
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Vanilluna (DJ Short)- (aka "Vanilla Moon") a structurally Kush hybrid of a cross between a female "Blueberry Sativa" (from the exact same seed stock that produced the mother of the "Blue Satellite"; the mother of the "Vanilluna" being large, green, symmetric with a distinct dominant main-stem and compact nodes, little variegation and long side-branches) crossed with the Original Blueberry male (a "stretch"-indica). This quasi-hybrid grows medium-tall Kush-like plants with short nodes, large, dark green foliage, thick-yet-sturdy hollow stems and tight, spade shaped buds of dense-but-elongated and swollen calyx/bract flowers completely coated in large, clear trichome of superior aromatics. Flower time is approx. 55â??60 days, with the more interesting oils developing in the very last week. "Vanilluna" possesses a complex-yet-subtle palate of a creamy, vanilla/honey blend with a hint of floral bouquet and sweet melon musk. The experience of the finished product is of top-shelf quality; smooth, comfortable, very long-lasting (hours) and dreamy. Upon final testing, a few individual plants from the "Vanilluna" provided an experience very similar to the "Blue Heaven", i.e. calming, clear and relatively anti-anxiety. Please note: approx. 15% of the plants from this line will sport variegated growth patterns. The other 85% will grow uniform plants with slight variation in height. Extended vegetative time coupled with early topping is recommended to increase yield, or run un-topped in a SOG-type system.

Indoor flowering 55 to 60 days.

Tag-a-long throughout the next 3-5 months and you'll be informed of any to-dos, no-to-dos, feeding schedules, smoke reports, and of course, the bud porn! :rastasmoke:

(camera being fixed, setup pictures on the way asap)

MediJuana
09-30-2008, 03:07 AM
Today I did some work on the box, I put five 27 watt cfls around the middle along with one 14 watt (due to one broken 27). I also have two more 27 watt 6500k lights and two 36 watt 2200k lights that I am going to suspend from the middle of the box. I'm going to use two shelf brackets and find a way to attach the lights to the ends, shouldn't be too hard.

Ventilation is doing well with the 6 lights on in there. I put two one inch holes on the bottom corners, air is pulling but I may need to put some more because the fan is straining a little bit. I need a hydrometer for humidity and temperature but I'm guessing its in the mid 70s with the lights on, could get into low 70s with the lights off.

Everything is looking go so far though!:thumbsup: I got some neem oil that I'm going to use in the liquid light and penetrator/applicator? mixture. Just figure I should just start off using some sort of repellant rather than dealing with it when it happens. Not sure on the nutrients Im going to use, possibly fox farm or advanced nutrients, been reading a lot of good stuff about them.

My soil mixture is 5 parts Fox Farm Ocean Forest, 4 parts Fox Farm Original Planting Mix, and one part Perlite. Plants won't need nutrients for the first two or three weeks, they'll be on a minimal feeding schedule unless they get hungrier then I'll up the dosage.

Thats it for now, I plan on germinating the seeds within the next week and a half. Pictures soon!

MediJuana
10-01-2008, 04:15 AM
I got a 24" two bulb 48 watt T5 that fits in there perfectly, as of now I have ~190 watts of cfls running. I've been doing a lot of drilling because the exhaust fan is straining still, probably have about 15 holes in the damn box now, temps in dead center are still in low 80s. Right now I need bigger vents or a passive intake. The room temperature that the box is in fluctuates between 74 and 79. Might put a couple more holes in tomorrow and then eventually cover them up with some strong tape when I get the passive intake.

I know plants are able to grow in the low 80s but they thrive in the 72-78 range if not colder. I've grown marijuana in higher temps before and they looked like solid plants until a lack in maintenance occurred.

I started germinating three of my seeds, 1 Vanilluna, 2 Querkle. Moist paper towel in a ziploc bag, rested them on the cable box for warmth and covered it with a pamphlet of some sort. Seeds should pop in the next 24-72 hours.

Now I'm going to enjoy a joint of sour diesel and mix the soil. :jointsmile: night yall

killa12345
10-01-2008, 09:04 AM
Medijuana.......good luck......Awesome strains...some of the people on this site find the coolest named strains ive ever seen! mmmmmmm vanilla moon.:thumbsup:

Shovelhandle
10-01-2008, 12:20 PM
:thumbsup: Very nice introduction to your grow log. I'm looking forward to reading the rest.

MediJuana
10-01-2008, 05:32 PM
Thanks killa and Shov, I too am excited to see the near future! I've been drilling holes like crazy, temps were 83-83 w all the lights on now I got it to 80-81. Temp gets to around 73 at night with the exhaust on medium opposed to high.

I'm still going to start the veg cycle in there even though the temps are high, hopefully I'll have some money for a small blower as a passive intake soon.
That should do the trick!:thumbsup:

Stay tuned every one I'll give the germination report later tonight.

Toke on

bombdiggity
10-01-2008, 06:39 PM
Just to clarify for you...

A "passive" intake refers to a hole that sucks air into the box via negative pressure caused by the exhaust. If you were to add a blower for your intake, that would turn it into an "active" intake.

Just so you dont get confused when you do your research...

Also, try making the hole larger than 1". I personally have a 4" Vortex fan exhausting my box, and my intake is a 4" hole ducted. I still have way too much negative pressure even with a 4" hole and could probably use an additional 4" intake.

killa12345
10-01-2008, 10:26 PM
MediJuana....

To answer your question....Yes all my log plants are grown in CFL's but i do use HPS with the other grows im involved with.....The pics of the Black Haze in my CH9 log are under 4- 1000w HPS. But my White skunk and CH9 mixed females were all grown with CFL's and Fox Farm! Good luck bro.....if i can answer anything else for u....just ask!

MediJuana
10-02-2008, 02:37 AM
Damn thanks killa those are all bad ass plants, may need tips through out the grow!

Bombd I know what you mean, and I totally meant to say that, my buddy corrected me on that today, and i have quite a bit of negative pressure in there I think a small blower or a small comp fan would help. Looks like the box got shot up lol, nothing duct tape cant fix.

This is the prototype model lol, when more money acquired I'll make a bad ass box, two boxes, one veg one flower.

Temps were peaking in the 79 - 80 range today, not too bad but it needs to be lower.
Both Querkle seeds popped and are in the FF soil mix, Vanilluna is take its time but it will show in the next 48 hours hopefully.

Also I need to get some blocks of styrofoam to raise the plants closer to the light, should minimize stretching. Shitty thing happened also, the attachment I used on the T5 snapped and one of the bulbs broke so there's a 3000k light in there for the mean time.

Every thing's coming along for now hopefully Friday we'll see some seedlings.

MediJuana
10-02-2008, 04:26 AM
Bottom of box reads 77 degrees F. 54% humidity.

MediJuana
10-02-2008, 05:15 PM
Alright now I'm pretty excited. Temps haven't exceed 78 degrees in the past day, I think that when I stuck a big plastic box in there to get the pots a little higher it really had an effect. Just read 76.4 a min ago! Woo!

Also good news - 100% germination rate of the 3 seeds, I officially have 2 Querkle and one Vanilluna in pots. Only a matter of time before we see seedlings.

I'm going to try and use my brosephs camera tonight to get yall some pictures, stay tuned!

Toke on

MediJuana
10-05-2008, 01:22 AM
Alright I'm outta town until tomorrow my broseph checked up on em for me and both Querkle #1 & 2 have sprouted. No signs on Vanilluna yet but soon to come, hopefully it'll be a good surprise when i get back tomorrow!

Ahh I'm stoked but stuck in a damn drought zone, and now is definitely time for a celebratory spliff. I'm off on the hunt peace out yall pics monday, PROMISE!

MediJuana
10-06-2008, 12:57 AM
Got back in town just now, surprise surprise Vanilluna's reachin to the moon.

All are nice looking seedlings, gonna save up for the organic bio-grow omni certified nutrients, dutch master penetrator and liquid light, humboldt's purple maxxx, and I might pick up a root stimulator too. My last grow the plants that I had didn't have a very good root system so if I have the cash Ill grab it.

Pics up tomorrow

MEDI

MediJuana
10-07-2008, 07:46 PM
Here are some pics, the setup, the high temps and humidity, the seedlings Querkle #1, #2, Vanilluna.

Higher temps are because I moved the plants closer to the lights, sucks I know... going to build a whole new box with a big active intake.

MediJuana
10-07-2008, 08:32 PM
here they are...

hahaitsdoogle
10-07-2008, 09:25 PM
here they are...

pretty nifty man i have to say

MediJuana
10-08-2008, 04:03 AM
I went to the hydro store today...spent about 250 bucks getting all my nutrients, but I'm so relieved that I finally have it all!

I didn't get the flowering nutrients yet because I don't need them, going to start applying liquid light + penetrator every other morning. Hope to ge the show on the road here soon!

I found a 239 cfm 6" fan today that I might get for the better box, that'd lower the temps quite a bit.

MediJuana
10-09-2008, 06:27 PM
Some feedback would be nice...

The seedlings are looking good, really good. the Querks will be a week old on saturday and Vanilluna on Sunday.

Vanilluna is just now having the second set of leaves come out and they are already showing purple coloration! Whether this plant is a male or a female, I'm taking clones or collecting pollen for sure!

Pics updated weekly, new pics on sunday.

MediJuana
10-13-2008, 01:41 AM
working on pics tonight

MediJuana
10-14-2008, 03:05 AM
Everything is going well, noticed some little flying bugs, trying some of the pyrethrin spray, hopefully theyll get outta there. . .


anyways, pics -

In order : group, temp/hum., Querkle #1 side, Querkle #1 top, Querkle #2

MediJuana
10-14-2008, 03:09 AM
And for the Vanilluna -

all same plant, last pic is the underside of the leaves. When the second set of leaves came out they had purple coloration, this picture shows the purple color of the underside of the leaves. It could be genetic seeing in how Vanilluna is made up of multiple blueberry strains, etc.. Don't think its a deficiency because all of the plants are in the same medium and drinking the same water and this is the only plant w/ color!

MediJuana
10-15-2008, 02:27 PM
Plants are growing like crazy! Querkle #2 is almost on its 5th node. I believe i have 2 different phenotypes of Querkle and the phenotype I have of Vanilluna is looking real nice...deep purple thick sturdy stems, purple color on the underside of the leaves, growing slower but I'm sure itll hit a spurt when I get on my feeding schedule.

All is good!

MEDI

MediJuana
10-16-2008, 02:48 AM
I think i might have fungus gnats..I'm going to the hydro store asap to get something to help it.

MEDI out

MediJuana
10-17-2008, 01:33 PM
I've decided that I'm gonna give the FIM technique a try on the vanilluna between the 4th and 5th nodes. And I'm going to LST the querkles, definite difference in the querkles, both nice structure, #1 looks more sativa dominant (space queen phenotype) and #2 has an indica structure with wider leaves. #2 is growing much faster than the rest, Vanilluna being the slowest.

Pics updated this weekend, considerable difference since the last time I took pics.

MEDI

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All that is said in this grow log is complete fiction. Everything is fake.

Jerry Garcia 2007
10-17-2008, 10:17 PM
Medjuana,

Looking very nice there, :thumbsup:

I am not sure about the plant with purple leaves I think you may want to post that in the plant problem forum just to be safe. Every strain is different in its needs, my gut feeling it is a nutrient problem.

BOL
JG

MediJuana
10-17-2008, 10:37 PM
Thanks jerry will do right away...I thought that too but then i read up on the blueberry strains that were used in this cross, they say that every mom has a nice purple stem as a seedling and so on. You'll be able to see in the sunday update but IMO it doesn't have the deficiency look to it if you know what i mean, more of a healthier purposeful look.

Anyway, def 2 way different querkle phenos...hope they're both female! beginning of week 3 is coming up and I'm going to start looking for any signs of hunger. Stay tuned!

MEDI

crabbyback
10-20-2008, 08:37 AM
Plants looking nice and healthy. Subscribed.

MediJuana
10-21-2008, 01:03 AM
Thanks crabby, did a lot of work today and yesterday, LSTed the querkles and FIMed the vanilluna. Next watering will be the first dose of nutes, might flush the watering after next and get all the salts and shit minerals outta there.

Pics soon check back later.

MEDI

MediJuana
10-21-2008, 01:35 AM
pic 1 - Group showing LST
pic 2 - One day old FIM on Vanilluna
pic 3 - Querkle #1; I'm betting on this one being a male, SpaceQueen phenotype
pic 4 - Querkle #2; Indica phenotype, really want this to be a female. good structure and bottom growth
Pic 5 - Underside and stems of Vanilluna, nice purple coloring from genetics

MediJuana
10-21-2008, 01:38 AM
Pic 1 - Purpleness!
pic 2 - The LSTed Querkles showing off their unders
pic 3 - First thing I look at when I wake up

MediJuana
10-21-2008, 05:34 AM
Okay....I was watchin tv reading Cannabible 3 and got a fun idea. I start germinating one mids seed that I have which was basically poorly grown dro, and I also started germinating 1/5 seeds that I have of the strain Sour Diesel/ChemD x Super Silver Haze. This strain is supposed to be harder to grow and have a potent smell to it but I figure...may get 2 weeks veg? then flower until done in a smaller pot so it won't get too bad. Just some more personals, maybe take a clone off of or something while I can. Add a variety to the bunch, they will be small but they will be dank, just a small hit out of a clean bong should do, that is if its a female!

Anyways I'm back to night cappin'.

Oh and the plants are already starting to turn back straight, quite amazing how it all works, and I think the FIM caught but I can't be sure (being as its my first attempt). Hope and stay tuned.

MEDI

MediJuana
10-22-2008, 02:01 AM
Tomorrow morning is the first feeding, they look like they're turning a little yellow tint so feeding is in order. The other seeds haven't popped yet so I'm just waiting for that, and the Quirkles are turning towards the lights rapidly.

I'm thinking about lowering the plants but I don't know if its time yet, any opinions?

MEDI

MediJuana
10-22-2008, 04:19 PM
Sour D/ChemD x SSH is in the ground, seed popped this morning. the midling seed is still germing and waiting to pop.

Getting colder outside so the temps in my house are staying lower, even to the point where its 75 in the box after the lights have been on for several hours.

I fed them for the first time this morning with all the General Hydroponics BioBizz products except for the top max which will only be used in flower along with the purple maxx snow storm.

All is good! plants are turning more, still can't tell about the FIM. I did the cut a little crooked on accident but cut of 80% of the new leaf growth. Anyone know if this will effect whether it catches or not?

Thanks all subscribers


MEDI

MediJuana
10-23-2008, 01:57 AM
The plants love the food, they just seem to get bigger and bigger just like they should! LST is looking great, I'll probably make another bend in two days after the next watering... FIM caught too! 4 nice nubs are branching out of the top..anyone think I should FIM twice? or is that not recommended?

I also did some math in class today...I figured that 6 weeks veg, 8-9 weeks flower, dry for one to two weeks or until ready, then cure for a minimum of 4 weeks before I roll the first fatty. Then keep curing as long as its in a jar, and I will also have a jar set aside for a 4/20 cure; put a lot in there and make 4/20 a week long if I'm lucky but I highly doubt it. Expect the official smoke report around the beginning of April.

Most of this is going to be personals, I'll give some to a few friends of mine and my buddies relative is suffering from MS so the anti-inflammatory trait from the space queen that was used in the cross to make Quirkle hopefully comes out in one of my phenotypes.

Replies would be excellent, constructive criticism and opinions help out so speak up yall!


MEDI

MediJuana
10-25-2008, 03:31 AM
Dropped the plants about 3 inches today, temps getting lower too so its all good. A strong 3 weeks into veg and everything is looking great, the smells resemble everything I had imagined and are stronger than I thought they'd be at this stage. Looking to transplant in the next week then these babies will really take off!

I thought about trying to induce flower to find out which plants are female then putting them back into veg, get rid of the males, then put the females into bigger pots then I would if I transplant them all at the same time...not going to tho I don't feel like screwing anything up.

Pics on Sunday, plants are on 7th node except for Vanilluna, shes doin her thing with the FIM.

MEDI

420F4i
10-25-2008, 05:49 AM
Sounds good. Post some more pics

MediJuana
10-25-2008, 03:32 PM
Thanks 420, I do updates during the week and post new pics on sundays, its the only way you can really notice a difference in growth...

Anyways sour diesel/chemdog x super silver haze sprouted, along with the experimental mids plant... think I'm just going to play around with the mids maybe lst..fim...supercrop...who knows mayb all of em haha!

Pics tomorrow, theres been a lot of progress so check in!

MEDI

MediJuana
10-28-2008, 04:35 AM
Alright Week 4 picture updates....everything is going quite well, just leached the soil today and all is well.

Pic 1 - Querkle #1 LST
Pic 2 - Querkle #1
Pic 3 - Querkle #1 top
Pic 4 - Close up on the FIM of Vanilluna, looks really wacky but it caught and there's a lot of branches forming and starting to com out.
Pic 5 - Vanilluna, spilled nutrient water on the leaves, all else is good!

MediJuana
10-28-2008, 05:03 AM
Pictures arent working now...try later or update in the morning sorry

MediJuana
10-28-2008, 04:11 PM
first 5 pics are captioned 2 posts above

MediJuana
10-28-2008, 04:15 PM
Pic 1 - Vanilluna top
Pic 2 - Vanilluna underneath, nice budsites forming reaching out for the light
Pic 3 - Querkle #2 stem/ LST
Pic 4 - Querkle #2
Pic 5 - Querkle #2 side

MediJuana
10-28-2008, 04:16 PM
That nute burn is from spilling water on the leaves

MediJuana
10-28-2008, 04:18 PM
Pic 1 - top of Querkle #2
Pic 2 - group shot, closest small pot is the SD/CDxSSH and the furthest is the mid grade plant, it was decent bud just grown like shit so we'll see how that surprise is.

MEDI

post some replies people

MediJuana
10-29-2008, 05:26 AM
Went to the hydro store today and got the top-max by general hydroponics biobizz, and purple maxx snowstorm by humboldt. next time I go back I'm going to get gravity by humboldt, lets get the largest yeild possible outta this box!

Im off to bed. night yal!

MEDI

MediJuana
10-31-2008, 03:54 PM
Pretty sure Querkle #1 is male, Querkle #2 may be also. I'm going to let them grow a while to make sure then prob make hash out of em or something who knows

FreeDaHerb
10-31-2008, 11:34 PM
Make LOTS of seeds this grow...you will be glad you did! :rastabanna:

btw - good looking plants..nice dark compact growth :thumbsup:

MediJuana
11-02-2008, 04:28 PM
I was thinkin about doing that considering Vanilluna is more of an elite strain and Querkle is just fire as hell...can only imagine the outcome.

Anyways, today I'm going to take some extensive photos to show the structure, the diff qualities in each of the plants I have and also take some close ups to c if anyone can determine the sex of these babes.

Check back later for complete photo update.

hydrocannabis
11-02-2008, 05:02 PM
sweet cant wate to seem.

MediJuana
11-03-2008, 03:27 PM
alright so I didnt get to post pics last night, couldn't get a good shot on the sex so I'm just going to have to wait it out.

pics up today

MEDI

MediJuana
11-05-2008, 06:05 AM
Pic 1 - Querkle #1
Pic 2 - LST Q #1
Pic 3 - Q #1 top
Pic 4 - top nodes on Q #1, where signs of sex are starting to show
Pic 5 - top nodes on Q #1

MediJuana
11-05-2008, 06:12 AM
Pic 1 - Querkle # 1, devilish fan leaves
Pic 2 - Burnt leaves I trimmed off
Pic 3 - top view of Q # 2, notice all of the bud sites stretching out
Pic 4 - multiple bud sites with plenty of exposure to lighting, getting bushy!
Pic 5 - top of Q # 2, leaves kinda look like blades, this plant is clone material if female! good structure too

MediJuana
11-05-2008, 06:20 AM
Pic 1 - LST on Q #2
Pic 2 - base of the main stem on Q #2
Pic 3 - More bud sites
Pic 4 - a look underneath
Pic 5 - top nodes on Q #2

MediJuana
11-05-2008, 06:26 AM
Pic 1 - Querkle # 2 from the side
Pic 2 - Vanilluna
Pic 3 - Vanilluna lookin pretty
Pic 4 - bud sites turning purple
Pic 5 - Vanilluna, nodes and bud sites

MediJuana
11-05-2008, 06:33 AM
Pic 1 - Beautiful purple undersides
Pic 2 - bottom mud site reaching out and turning purple
Pic 3 - the FIM job gone bad, I cut too much off and now the new growths have been taking forever to grow; you live and you learn
Pic 4 - inner-foliage of Vanilluna
Pic 5 - Vanilluna standing tall and growing! still short...but shes growin

Let me know what you think.... possibly have some deficiencies so tell me if you know what any of them are. Thanks all!

MEDI out

ST33L1X
11-05-2008, 09:35 PM
wow nice dude! those plants look like freeking bushes

MediJuana
11-05-2008, 09:51 PM
Thanks ST33, thats exactly what they are lol, small bushes.

I've decided Im going to wait until they sex to transplant, they should show in the next 5 days I'm thinkin. Q #1 is on the male list right now but we'll wait and see.

MEDI

MediJuana
11-07-2008, 06:01 PM
as of right now I'm declaring all males. I will wait until the mids and the sd/cdxssh need transplanting to harvest them...I'm either going to make brownies or green dragon...probably green dragon because it will be more potent and I think its a bit easier to make.

MEDI

MediJuana
11-09-2008, 12:31 AM
Querkles are remaining males for now, Vanilluna is a female, throwing out tiny purple hairs from pre-flowers. I think I have Magnesium and Zinc deficiencies so I'm going to do a flush tomorrow, get some epsom salt for the Mg, and feed the plants. I think the Zn deficiency will start to go away when I transplant but thats only happening if they're females.

Pics will be up when I can take a clear shot of the sex. within the next week hopefully!

MEDI

MediJuana
11-10-2008, 05:04 PM
Idk whats happening but I'm starting to see white sex hairs on one or both of the querkles...WHAT TO DO?!?! haha if theyre all females imma flip and then put one under my buddies MH/HPS and hopefully get a respected yield.


Anyways stay tuned for the final sex determination in the next 2 weeks to make sure. And these are some of the bushiest plants I've ever damnd seen, all the bud sites are so evenly well formed I have to see where the LST wire is to find the true top on the Querks. thats some great news if theyre femies

killa12345
11-11-2008, 09:44 AM
medi....

I hope they are all females.....just be patient.....then pluck all the males! the plants look good though!

MediJuana
11-11-2008, 05:44 PM
Thanks killa! Im transplanting today, I think all might be females. My buddy has a T5 setup and hes about 3 or 4 weeks behind me so I'm gna put a querkle in his room to veg real long, then take a lotta clones!

Wish us luck yall!

MEDI

MediJuana
11-14-2008, 02:38 AM
Be back on sunday with picture updates... have a safe weekend yall


MEDI

WhiskeyTango
11-14-2008, 02:44 AM
Heard a lot of good on that querkel my fellow floridian, lol....Lookin forward to see a bio on it! Did you get the querkle online? I cant find any TGA or subcools strains....love to get my hands on some q!
lookin good medi....
:joint1:

crabbyback
11-14-2008, 05:25 AM
Pretty plants Medi! :thumbsup:

cb :pipe:

MediJuana
11-14-2008, 02:08 PM
Thanks WT and Crabby, appreciate yall saying something and keeping me motivated haha.

The plants are getting prettier and prettier, they actually look like legit plants being in their new pots. The LST is turning out unbelievably effective on both of the querkles, the FIM is starting to take off now as well. Sunday will be a picture day I believe its been a week and a half. Just fed em a nice good serving of GHBB products and got their soil all soaked for the weekend, I start back with the liquid light application next week ( not supposed to use on clones of freshly transplanted plants).

Whiskey, I've gotten all of my genetics from HempDepot.com, extremely discreet i almost threw the package away when I got it.

ENJOY!
MEDI

WhiskeyTango
11-14-2008, 05:18 PM
Guess Im going with hemp depot....Few other of the regs on here suggested HD to me too....I am VERY picky, since I grow mostly for personal meds, and breeding...Looking forward to see if you make my mind up about TGA....lol
:joint1:

crabbyback
11-14-2008, 06:51 PM
Medi,

Looking forward to pics next week. Nice, nice work.

cb :pipe:

WhiskeyTango
11-17-2008, 01:13 AM
lookin good! Read up on it and ordered the Q too! CHeck out my new setup comin:greenthumb:
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/165926-whiskeytangos-area-51-a.html

MediJuana
11-17-2008, 02:37 AM
Alright! got back later today then I thought so Ill post pics tomorrow.

It's such a relief getting back and seeing bigger healthier plants than they were when you left! They took the food and chow'd down big time... bushy bushes. The vanilluna is a gorgeous plant, I can't wait to see my buddies natural Vanilluna plant, no training or topping hes just gonna let it go. dank!~Im out for now.

MEDI

MediJuana
11-19-2008, 03:00 AM
Pic 1 - The peek in the box
Pic 2 - Canopy efficiency
Pic 3 - Q #2
Pic 4 - Q #2
Pic 5 - Q #2

MediJuana
11-19-2008, 03:02 AM
Pic 1 - Q #2 main stem growing side ways
Pic 2 - 5 - Vanilluna, the top, then stem, nodes, and purpleness!

MediJuana
11-19-2008, 03:05 AM
ahh

MediJuana
11-19-2008, 03:08 AM
All Q #1.


Gonna keep hush about the sex for now until I'm positive. Decided I'm going to put the vanilluna under my buddies 400w after two more weeks of veg. Its going to be a beautiful mother!

MEDI

MediJuana
11-19-2008, 05:09 AM
Sd/CdxSSh is under a T5 right now, today I transplanted it into a 3 gal and did a much better FIM job. Mids plant needs a transplant and is getting it tomorrow, lemme know what chall think about the progress!

MEDI

I got Humboldt's bushmaster the other day, next I'm getting Gravity...Deff going to max out the yield in this box!

WhiskeyTango
11-19-2008, 12:12 PM
You got the Chemdawg DD too? You bastard!!!...lol Damn Florida folk. I tried to get that, but they sold out on seedbay FAST!!! Gorgeous growing man! Florida represent!!!!
:joint1:

MediJuana
11-20-2008, 04:23 AM
for sure! thanks man, just tryin to do my best... Tomorrow Is another feeding, havent decided if I should go 5 or 6 weeks veg? we'll see, depends on how many females I have I guess.

MEDI

MediJuana
11-20-2008, 08:11 PM
Gave them the strongest feeding yet, they took it and love it! Think im going to take the plants to 5 weeks veg and then put them under the super hps hortilux 400 watt. They are only in 3 gals, they may be smaller actually so I dont want to push it too far with the roots. They'll double in size during flowering, hoping for at least an ounce off of each female I have, but i should get more with all the nutes and care I put into my grow.

MEDI

WhiskeyTango
11-21-2008, 01:20 AM
Try raising the light a lil to get some stretch if ya want it, doesnt matter though, they wil just be fatter:greenthumb:

DoDoFoShoDoe
11-21-2008, 02:47 AM
:thumbsup: Those look familiar!

props medi keep it up buddy

MediJuana
11-21-2008, 06:37 AM
Ahh yeah WT the lights are good for now, cfls....closer the better.

DODO! nice to see you back on the threads

killa12345
11-21-2008, 08:57 AM
man the plants look awesome......the log is coming along beautifully.....keep up the great work.....i cant wait to see the finished product already....:thumbsup:

MediJuana
11-21-2008, 06:35 PM
Thanks killa me too!

Liquid Light was applied this morning, went and got 6 2.5 gal jugs of RO water yesterday for a full flush this weekend. Yesterday I went to the store and got a clone setup and a bottle of Gravity. Relieved that I have everything to finish the grow going on, its wierd how easy its been to be patient.

MEDI

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All pictures and everything said in this log is fully fabricated. Everything is fake.

MediJuana
11-22-2008, 03:34 PM
Alright today I did a full flush, 5 gal of ph to 6 RO store bought water. On tuesday Vanilluna goes into flowering, then sometime next week Ill take a few clones off of her.


All the plants are looking great! Hoping the space queen pheno of the querkles (q #1) is a female, if so its going up 24 hour light for he next month to get masses of clones. sticking to under 24 plants to be FL law safe

MEDI

MediJuana
11-23-2008, 05:34 AM
I have fungus gnats....I've been using pyrethrin spray but its not doin a thing.

What should I do!?!?

Thanks
MEDI

WhiskeyTango
11-23-2008, 03:59 PM
Fungus Gnats go in stages. I have battled those fuckers A LOT! I use pyrethin on exterior, and a fungicide to pour in the soil/medium. You are killing the flying ones, but not killing the larvae in the soil feeding on the root hairs. So you gotta get em both. home depot carries both.
good vibes

MediJuana
11-24-2008, 12:31 AM
Thanks whiskey! gonna get on that tomorrow morning.

They're loving the liquid light, these plants have grown 2 or 3 inches in 4 days...amazing!

MEDI

MediJuana
11-28-2008, 03:55 PM
PICS TODAY! cant wait to seee my baby under the HPS!! I'm comin back into town today to find my girls doin well...hopefully!


MEDI

MediJuana
12-01-2008, 11:17 PM
Sex isnt as easy to check as I thought...querkles are in veg, whatever they are they are the same sex, and Vanilluna is in flower and shes loving it. Taking pics tonight, not many just some shots of the extreme lst job i just did and one of vanilluna after her first feeding a couple days ago. She gets water tonight, then Im making some more liquid light to get the lower branches on the querkles popping up for cloning and then getting vanilluna bigger and bushier.

Think yall are going to be surprised!

MEDI

Oh yeah, were turing the 400 watt into a 600 watt this week. BIGGER BUDDDSS!!! ahhh i cant wait! but i will.... :stoned:

My bday 2day too! woo!

WhiskeyTango
12-02-2008, 03:11 AM
Eh...Im slackin too, but PICS man!
whiskeytango
got my querkle in today! Let ya know when I pop em!

bloodbrother
12-02-2008, 03:42 AM
man looking awesome i cant wait to see those vanneluna at harvest looks very interesting!! only one question do you think you will have enough room in there for flowering?

MediJuana
12-02-2008, 03:54 PM
Thanks WT Im on it! workin on the pics just forgot the camera when I went to check on Van.

And Blood... Vanilluna is now under a 400 watt hps so there is more room in there (400 was being changed to 600 now its 1000). If the querkles are females, Im going to flower one out in my buddies room and veg out and lst to the other for a long time and take a lot of clones. Ill get you all the pics asap!

MEDI

MediJuana
12-03-2008, 02:09 AM
going to feed, liquid light, and take pics tonight. Theres a real big difference since last time I took pics so hopefully some more of you out there will post some words of wisdom/advice/thoughts/questions/anything.

Ill also take some pics of my buddies dank haze bagseed he has goin, smells amazing.

MEDI

Got a seed from a heavy indica strain, another from the original grandaddy (biggest cannabis seed I've ever seen), a buddy is giving me one of orange kush, and then one of this real sweet tasting fire; I was told it was sour diesel but I know it wasnt. Im saving these genetics for my perpetual garden when it happens. I sure am getting lucky!

MediJuana
12-03-2008, 06:28 AM
Pic 1 & 2 - Querkles in veg waiting to sex, extreme lst.

Pic 3, 4, & 5 - Vanilluna (small plant) and a haze plant in week 2 and 3 of flower.

MediJuana
12-03-2008, 06:33 AM
Pic 1 - Haze porn
Pic 2 - Vanilluna structure (kush like)
Pic 3 - lower bud site on the haze
Pic 4 - Haze porn
Pic 5 - setup

MediJuana
12-03-2008, 06:46 AM
the vanilluna pre-flower that called her an official female

Tell me how you all think were doin? Ive had no part in growing but advice with the haze plant, thats all my buddy; He sure is doing a great job!:thumbsup:

And the vanilluna is awesome, beginning of week 2, 7-8 weeks left. can't wait!

MEDI

WhiskeyTango
12-03-2008, 02:43 PM
Its all lookin good medi...good shit man.
good vibes

MediJuana
12-03-2008, 06:31 PM
thanks whiskey...more good news! Querkle #1 is a female! going to wait two or 3 more days to clone and also find out if Q #2 is female. The preflowers look the same on both plants Q #2 is just more premature.

Stay tuned!

Going to take 5 clones off of each plant; Q #1, Q #2, and Vanilluna, i guess I should take a sourd/chemd x super silver haze one too. I gotta figure out a more simple name for that cross... any help? sour silver haze? super silver diesel? silver chem diesel? Silver/super dog haze? Super sour dog? Super sour haze?

i like the super sour haze. I think Ill call it an official name after I smoke it, I am not taking claims for the cross. This cross was by Beanho, just trying to call it something more simple.

MEDI

MediJuana
12-04-2008, 04:56 AM
Dodo and I just took 7 Vanilluna clones, and 6 from each Querkle. Transporting Querkle #2 to the flowering room tonight to get some buds going.

Clones are on a 24/7 light schedule, rapid rooters were used for the clone medium and olivias cloning gel was used for the root stimulant. This was our first attempt at cloning so wish us luck!

Querkle #1 goes into the flowering room tomorrow night,

MEDI:jointsmile:

MediJuana
12-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Theres moisture in the humidome over the clones, all is well! Querkle #1 is moved today, Q#2 last night, they both get theyre first feeding after theyre next pour of fresh water.

MEDI

killa12345
12-05-2008, 12:46 AM
Congrats on the female and good luck with the clones....the plants look awesome! cant wait to see some bud porn!

MediJuana
12-05-2008, 01:23 AM
You got the Chemdawg DD too? You bastard!!!...lol Damn Florida folk. I tried to get that, but they sold out on seedbay FAST!!! Gorgeous growing man! Florida represent!!!!
:joint1:

Hey whiskey I just saw what you meant on this post...I wish I had the Chemdawg dd but the Sour diesel/Chemdog x Super Silver Haze is a quite different strain. No idea how shes gonne turn out but Ill take pics soon, she sure is happy!

MEDI

WhiskeyTango
12-05-2008, 01:38 AM
cant rep ya medi....rep me your email

MediJuana
12-05-2008, 05:27 PM
wt not quite sure what you mean by rep you me email, explain bitte?

MEDI

DoDoFoShoDoe
12-05-2008, 06:32 PM
positive vibes sent to the clones:rasta:

Everythings looking good medi. way to use your green thumb!

DOdo

WhiskeyTango
12-05-2008, 08:51 PM
Your rep looks turned off. Turn your rep on in your user cp. The scales at the top of each post are to "rep" someone. after doing the above, lol...."rep" me your email addy...I have rep you already, and I cant till I spread some more love. But since your lil box is black instead of green, your rep is turned off...
good vibes

MediJuana
12-05-2008, 11:14 PM
got ya! I always wondered how mine got turned off to begin with...

MediJuana
12-09-2008, 06:31 AM
all males this thread is over

MEDI

out

bubbleboy
12-09-2008, 06:58 AM
my condolences. :(

bloodbrother
12-16-2008, 06:41 PM
shit man thats too bad hopefully you got new seeds im going to try find ur new log now

fUNKYcDOG
12-17-2008, 12:37 AM
those plants look great, i am about to order some of the querkle seeds..... ive been watching ur grow log, any new pics.... are they buds gonna be all purple..... any advice? is querkle stable, or is it unstable and thats why u got all males? :thumbsup::jointsmile:

MediJuana
12-18-2008, 03:00 AM
I think the males were do to wrong spectrum of cfls or moving them around to different locations...My friend just planted 3 Querkles and 2 of them are female. This strain is very stable with two phenotypes, one is a shorter bushier purple grape pheno and the other is space queen dominant with more room between nodes and finishes more green but purple w cool air.

MEDI

I dont have a grow log going on right now but youll all know when I do!

phatsesh101
02-04-2009, 10:54 AM
wheres the finish pics