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Herbaholic00
03-10-2005, 01:37 PM
26 February 2005
By Doyel Shamley


According to the Associated Press out of Tokyo, Former ??president? Clinton said that his wife Hillary, would be an excellent choice as the first female leader of the world??s most powerful nation. The simple fact that former ??president? Clinton would endorse such an idea is an example of the use of the mind control technique of baiting to lead a susceptible audience into a belief. Also notice that at a time when this country is coming under intense scrutiny as to its role in the world arena, he would reference ??the world??s most powerful nation?. Unfortunately for this country and the free world, that puts ??senator? Hillary Clinton in the default role as leader.
While being interviewed by Japan??s TV Asahi, William Jefferson Clinton said he did not know whether his wife, the ??senator? of New York State, has any plans to one day run for president. That can easily be seen as an outright lie. If he were to say, ??I do not know if she will be the next president?, then that would be acceptable to thinking people. Yet, the simple fact that he has repeatedly said that he does not know if she plans to run eventually for the U.S. presidency shows him as the liar he has already proven to be.
Clinton told Japan??s TV Asahi, ??I don??t know if she??ll run or not?, but added that ??she would make an excellent president, and I would always try to help her?. Whether he would help her or not isn??t the question, but to what extent.

As a separate commentary, ??senator? Joseph Biden said that ??senator? Hillary Clinton would be difficult to beat if she decides to run for president. Again a simple trick or mind manipulation to the masses by suggestion, coming from Hillary??s right hand ??man? and coincidentally the next prime candidate for the same Democratic party. This is also an admonition by cohorts of her intentions to run officially.
Hillary Clinton has previously said that she plans to run for re-election as New York senator. There has been speculation however that the Hillary may have plans to run for the presidency in 2008. It would seem very apparent that William Jefferson Clinton literally ??came from nowhere? to capture the presidency with apparent timely aspirations to be just a Governor.
According to a recent U.S. poll, six in 10 American ??voters? believed that the U.S. was ready for a female in the role of president.
I have no problem with a female being president, but could I please see the statistical breakdown of the poll conducted.
According to the poll by the Siena College Research Institute and coincidentally sponsored by Hearst Newspapers, known socialists, fifty-three percent thought Hillary should run. Former ??president? Clinton said on Sunday, ??If she did run and she was able to win, she??d make a very, very good president?. According to former ??president? Clinton, ??I think she??s at least as good as I was.? Again, an allusion by the former ??president? Clinton that he was good. Also it should be noted that Siena College is a cesspool of geopolitical socialism. According to their own literature, ??Siena students often benefit from the College??s proximity to Albany, a hub of political and cultural activity?by acquiring practical internships (and later, careers) in government, the arts, science and business.? It should also be noted that according the Siena??s own literature, ??..Siena Hall is now a reminder of the College??s rich history as well as a wellspring for innovative teaching and learning.? Innovative teaching and learning tends to remind me of ??re-education? by the socialist??s ??reformers?.
The comments were made by William Jefferson Clinton during a three day visit to an international forum to promote the Japanese language edition of his Memoir ??My Life?, organized by the Asahi newspaper. Conveniently, he gave these comments to a captive audience of dupes for his memoirs.

??Senator? Joseph Biden while speaking on NBC??s ??Meet The Press?, warned that all Democrats need to worry about Hillary Clinton. Why is ??Senator? Joseph Biden so worried about his old ally? Could it be that she has a more regimented form of Socialism then he?
Joseph Biden from Delaware said, ??I think she??d be incredibly difficult to beat?I think she is the most difficult obstacle for anyone being the nominee.? Another simple bait and switch technique by a known ally of Socialism and enemy to the freedom of the U.S. By inferring that ???she is the most difficult obstacle for anyone being nominee?, he sets the path to non-resistance.
Joseph Biden also added that, ??She is likely to be the nominee.. She??d be the toughest person and I think Hillary Clinton is able to be elected president of the United States.? Is that the CFR talking, or the Tri-laterals, or another patsy.

Biden also said that he may run again after his previously failed attempt at the White House because ????there??s a lot at stake.?
The only reason ??there??s a lot at stake?, is that he didn??t think of being head of the world socialists first.





Peace

Torog
03-10-2005, 01:54 PM
Howdy Herbaholic,

I agree that Hitlery the hildabeast, must not become president,she wants America to be a socialist state,kow-tow to all of America's enemies,punish business,take away even more income from Americans,for "the greater good ",essentially ban Christianity and abandon all support for Israel.

Another thing is,is that many cultures view women as second-class citizens and don't believe that women should be in leadership roles,as much as I admire,respect and am proud of Condi Rice as the secretary of State,like Albright,I just don't think that they are respected by cultures where men assume the leadership roles in society..like fundy islamic states and oriental cultures. In fact,these cultures that don't respect women,may also be insulted and offended,by having to meet or talk with,women.

Herbaholic00
03-10-2005, 02:45 PM
Im not into socialism, I read alot about how much she is into tho. Soicialism is for babies who cant do anything for their self. What I dont like is that the more things are decided by the state the less choice you have and the more you have to sacrifice. Its like living at home with your parents, you get shit done for you and it seems like a good idea but when dad says put the rubbish out you better put the rubbish out or there is gonna be trouble.

Im not saying I agree wth the current system either but soicilism is crap.

Also the fact that it is a Freemason ideal (engles-33 degree mason) doesn;t make sense because even on the very baisic level of Freemasonry the people who join the Masonic order do so to gain an advantage (an unfair advantage) over others. On the highest level, how many U.S. presidents have been masons?.



Peace

amsterdam
03-10-2005, 02:59 PM
i really doubt billary will get the nod.this lady has way to much baggage.the smear campaign would be ruthless!!unless the independents can get their head out of their ass i will bet 200$$ 08' is gonna be another red year.

Kombucha
03-10-2005, 04:13 PM
I would like to see her as President (not that I'm American) It's not like the Democrats are that left wing anyway, they aren't exactly Marxists.

amsterdam
03-10-2005, 04:30 PM
no the dems aren't,hillary is trying to make herself seem like she is to the center but she is a die hard liberal all the way.America sees that believe me .her record speaks for itself.only a tiny part of the dems are the moveon people and they are losing their battles everywhere.you know it's bad when rolling stone writes an article about you being a nothing.

Herbaholic00
03-10-2005, 06:05 PM
I found this......what any one think?



In the early '60's during the days of the "former" Soviet Union, Russian Premier Nikita Kruschev pounded his shoe on the podium of the United Nations and shouted to the West, "We will bury you!" Fearing an invasion from the Reds, America proceeded to build the most awesome military machine in history. Unfortunately, we forgot to guard our political homefront from being taken over by socialist - communist - liberal activists who would gain office and destroy American law by process of gradually installing the Communist agenda within our legal system and separate branches of government. The Communist program from the start has been one which sees their revolution of 1917 succesful only upon total domination of the world. (See Brain Washing, A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics) Americans, being the most naive people among the nations, now believe that Communism is dead because the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain have been removed. The ironic truth is that Communism has just switched names to become more "politically correct". Today it is called international democracy. The reason that the Berlin Wall came crashing down is not because Communism is dead but because they have achieved the planned agenda to communize the West, including America. Washington D.C. has indeed become part of the New World Order of atheist governments. With the last vestiges of Christian law having been removed from "American government" over the last twenty years, there is no longer a threat of resistance against world Communism. In reality, "American government" became part of the Iron Curtain, thus there was no more need for the likes of a Berlin Wall. Once again, in their foolishness, the American public has believed the lies of their "leaders" who applaud "the fall of Communism", while they have sold out the country to anti-Christian, anti-American statutes and regulations on the federal, state, and local levels. Posted below is a comparison of the original ten planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart of each of the planks, The American people have truly been "buried in Communism" by their own politicians of both the Republican and Democratic parties. One other thing to remember, Karl Marx was stating in the Communist Manifesto that these planks will test whether a country has become commmunist or not. If they are all in effect and in force the country IS communist. Communism, but by any other name...??



1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.
The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management


2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".


3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance
We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.


4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels
We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.


5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). This private bank has an exclusive monopoly in money creation which in reality has ended the need for revenue from taxes. So why do they tax? To FOOL YOU into thinking they need them.


6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State
We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) madated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations. There is also the postal monopoly, AMTRACK and CONRAIL


7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.


8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.


9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.


10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" .


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So I ask you...does changing the words, change the end result? By using different words is it all of a sudden OK????? We are so "smart," aren't we??
None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free....


http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/com-man.html


Peace

amsterdam
03-10-2005, 06:17 PM
i think its silly.you can write this cant you.you can go outside and shout it!!no one cares.my family has a huge amount of private property.violators will be shot.it is interesting but people over react to shit.the patriot act isnt going to affect me or you.i think we should be allowed to include more in it.i am all for sending people to other countries to be interrogated.dosent bother me or the other 90% of our country,its funny if it were true because it seems women want to do all the things men do,to a point.as soon as they are shipped off to fight with men in a war its a differant story though

pisshead
03-10-2005, 06:35 PM
interesting...i've seen that before.

check out this from gary allen's none dare call it conspiracy...life is grand for some, for now, in the empire.

everyone should read that gary allen book. there are copies on ebay now. he's written other great books too...nixon, man behind the mask, say no to the new world order, the rockefeller file...there are more i can't think of right now. but you'll find them on ebay most likely.



http://www.barefootsworld.net/14signs.html

In 1972 a wonderful little book was published. It arrived with little fanfare yet somehow it has managed to survive for 25 years. Most people have never read it. These are the same people who today are asking questions about what went wrong with America. These are the same people who today find that their plans for the future, no matter how hard they have worked to make those plans a reality, have vanished into thin air. These are the same people who are working 3 jobs to keep what one job secured for them 20 years ago.......These people are you and I, the working middle class, the "We the People."

The book is titled "None Dare Call It Conspiracy," and was authored by Gary Allen with Larry Abraham. It was considered very controversial 23 years ago. In retrospect it appears to have been a blueprint for the future of America. That America is perhaps where we are all living today.

If you doubt the possibility of a conspiracy to bring America to it's knees and perhaps install a totalitarian dictatorship through the conversion of our republic into a democracy you need only look to the changes in our laws. Gary Allen provided his readers with fourteen signposts on the road to totalitarianism. They were compiled by Dr. Warren Carroll, and Mike Djordjevich, a refugee from Yugoslavian communism. The list is in no particular order. However, nothing on the list existed in American law at the time the list was compiled.

Read it now, experience it for yourself. Any one of the listed items would be a clear warning that the totalitarian state is very near, and a significant number of perhaps five or more could possibly suggest that the freedom we have once enjoyed and the preservation of our Great Republic has been lost.

14 SIGNPOSTS TO SLAVERY

1. Restrictions on taking money out of the country and on the establishment or retention of a foreign bank account by an American citizen.

2. Abolition of private ownership of hand guns.

3. Detention of individuals without judicial process.

4. Requirements that private financial transactions be keyed to social security numbers or other government identification so that government records of these transactions can be fed into a computer.

5. Use of compulsory education laws to forbid attendance at presently existing private schools.

6. Compulsory non-military service.

7. Compulsory psychological treatment for non-government workers or public school children.

8. An official declaration that anti-communist (Patriot) organizations are subversive and subsequent legal action taken to suppress them.

9. Laws limiting the number of people allowed to meet in a private home.

10. Any significant change in passport regulations to make passports more difficult to obtain.

11. Wage and price controls, especially in a non-wartime situation.

12. Any kind of compulsory registration with the government of where individuals work.

13. Any attempt to restrict freedom of movement within the United States.

14. Any attempt to make a new major law by executive decree (that is, actually put into effect, not merely authorized as by existing executive orders.)

President Nixon invoked numbers 1, 11 and 14. As of January 1,1972, banks must report to the government any deposit or withdrawal over $5,000. That number has since been reduced to $3,000. Any purchase over $10,000 made in cash must also be reported to the federal government. Clinton has done the same via Executive Orders.

Courts have in some instances ordered individuals without bank accounts to open one under threat of incarceration through charges of Civil contempt.

This government is presently attempting to end private handgun ownership in America through federal legislation, signpost #2.

Recent destruction of Habeas Corpus has made signpost #3 a reality. Federal banking laws have made signpost #4 the law of the land.

President Clinton's "America in Service" legislation has made signpost #6 an expected part of American behavior. Federal civil rights legislation in regard to helping young children deal with alternative life styles of adults ( Suzie's two mommies/daddies) has made signpost #7 a part of the new american landscape.

Increased fees and much extended waiting times are now required to obtain a passport, signpost #10.

The EPA's trip reduction legislation, which limits an individuals right to travel freely on the highway is a perfect example of signpost #13. Road blocks or check points set up by either local or state police under the guise of searching for drugs or drunk drivers, while appearing to be in the service of society are in truth an invasion of our freedom to travel.

Well, we have seen these already -- 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14
Signpost #8 is up for grabs, and 5, 6, 7 and 9 may take a little more time.

The truth speaks for itself . . . . America may be lost . . . . We may now be living under totalitarian rule. Some of us will recognize the truth. Some of us will continue to be in denial of the truth. Too few of us will fight back to regain the freedoms we have lost. The only thing you can be sure of is that this government will continue in it's relentless march over whatever may be left of this once great Republic until we are all slaves on the land our fathers fought to make free.

Winston Churchill, speaking to the English people as they were about to become involved in World War II proclaimed:

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival."

Because the American people have ignored warning after warning, we have finally come to that place in time where we are beginning to ask where our freedoms have gone. Unless we begin to take action now against unconstitutional acts on the part of our elected public servants, we will face a future choice, also described by Mr. Churchill. He said:

"There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

amsterdam
03-10-2005, 08:34 PM
most countries have laws such as these.this article does make you think however.times will continue to change as will the laws.i have 4 handguns and 2 shotguns.i had no problem getting them and no one will take them.and i have had some semi serious run ins with the law.it isnt that i dont see how people could be scared,i just know that alot of things are taken way out of context.but hey,everyone to their own.

Edgar
03-14-2005, 12:05 AM
It'll be a cold day in Panama before the American public elects Hillary Clinton President, so she shouldn't even bother trying.

Kombucha
03-16-2005, 06:46 PM
It depends if she can get to feminists or not. Damn I hate feminists. I believe in equal rights, but women's rights are equal now, or at least in West they are, so they can shut up.

slipnslide087
03-17-2005, 06:58 PM
FUCK THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edgar
03-18-2005, 03:15 AM
"Damn I hate feminists" Yeah, whats the deal with feminists these days? In the west the movement for equality has been pretty much a raging success. Now, feminism seems more about disliking men, than equality for sexes. Even the term feminist seems biased, if its really about equality for the sexes, why not pick a more neutral word? You dont see a bunch of men walkin around callin' them selves masculists, =P.

Herbaholic00
03-18-2005, 06:03 PM
Yeah i agree with Edgar and Kombucha, equal rights is cool but some women want men to be second class citizens...........my old boss.



Peace

amsterdam
03-24-2005, 05:30 PM
i am all for equal rights but whenb it came to women serving on the front lines with the men ,all of a sudden it wasnt fair,too funny.