View Full Version : HELP! brown/dead spots? w/ pics
blakout
09-21-2008, 03:15 PM
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
I was wondering can you guys help me with my problem. This is my first grow and its not looking so good at the moment. The past couple days I've spotted these brown spots on 2-3 of the leaves and thought nothing of it because the one that shows up are usually turning yellow and die off. Today it seems like they have spread all over the plant. Only thing I'm doing different the past week or so is watering my plant with molasses. I've been reading around it seem it might be a MN deficiencies problem or maybe a PH problem leading to other deficiencies. She is starting on her 4th week of flowering and it would be a shame and waste of hard work and time to lose my baby now. So please help identify and solve this problem. Thanks in advance
VC
SnSstealth
09-21-2008, 04:16 PM
Gorwing medium? Ph? Nute feeding levels?...fill out the troublshooting form, and we will gladly help ya....
whiskeytango:joint1:
Greenthing
09-21-2008, 04:42 PM
I may be a calcium deficiency, not 100% sure.
blakout
09-21-2008, 05:32 PM
Plant is from bagsweed is grown indoor with FFOF soil mix with about 25 percent perlites. I feed them MG bloom booster (NPK 15-30-15) at half teaspoon per gallon every other feeding since first week of flowering. PH of the water is around 6.7.6-8 but when I test the soil its around 7. I use the cheapo 2 prong tester with the 3 thing PH,Moist, and light. It might not be accurate because its the el cheapo. I can never get a lower reading then 7 in my soil with this prong tester. I'm growing with 4 26w cfl and 1 46w at the moment and the temp is around 75-80 lights on and between 65-70 when off. Humidity is usually around 50-60 but sometime spike up to high 60's. Here is some more pics hope it helps, thanks.
VC
Greenthing
09-21-2008, 05:51 PM
blakout, At the bottom of my post there is a link to Stinkyattick's troublshooting form you need to fill it in then you should get the help you need.
irydyum
09-21-2008, 06:33 PM
Just a guess before the troubleshooting form is filled out, but if you are feeding it with Miracle Grow you are likely frying out your organic soil mix. I would not bank on it being a deficiency since you are using steroid like fertilizer. My guess would be that there is some toxicity in the soil that is causing a nutrient lockout. In other words, you may have plenty of MN, but for some reason it is locked in the soil and unavailable to your plant. I think it never hurts to flush, provided your soil drains well, so until someone with a weed PhD comes around to help, I would flush the hell out of it, and quit with the miracle grow for a few rounds, let the soil balance itself back out. Good luck with it.
blakout
09-21-2008, 07:52 PM
E-indoor or outdoor - Indoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic - Soil
CSL-Soil type/brand - Fox Farm Ocean Forest
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil - Perlites
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH - 7 with cheapo prong tester
E-Water source - Distilled water
E-Source water pH - 6.6 - 6.8 use lime/lemon just to lower ph
E-Age of plant - Unsure but on 4th week of flowering stage
E-Type of fertilizer - MG Bloom Booster NPK 15-30-15
E-Rate of application - every other feeding (feed about every two days)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant - 4 26w(100w) cfl 1 46w(200w) cfl
E-Air temperature - 75-80 with lights on 65-70 when off
E-Air % Relative humidity - 50-60% sometime see spike to 70
E-Lighting schedule - 12/12
E-Type of ventilation your room has - no real vent system just fan blowing air around
Weezard
09-21-2008, 08:18 PM
E-indoor or outdoor - Indoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic - Soil
CSL-Soil type/brand - Fox Farm Ocean Forest
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil - Perlites
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH - 7 with cheapo prong tester
E-Water source - Distilled water
E-Source water pH - 6.6 - 6.8 use lime/lemon just to lower ph
E-Age of plant - Unsure but on 4th week of flowering stage
E-Type of fertilizer - MG Bloom Booster NPK 15-30-15
E-Rate of application - every other feeding (feed about every two days)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant - 4 26w(100w) cfl 1 46w(200w) cfl
E-Air temperature - 75-80 with lights on 65-70 when off
E-Air % Relative humidity - 50-60% sometime see spike to 70
E-Lighting schedule - 12/12
E-Type of ventilation your room has - no real vent system just fan blowing air around
And Howzit?
Now, I'm just a simple country "spert," and have never seen that symptom.
But, like most folk, I do "play" an Expert when stoned,:D
Got yer "grain of salt ready? Good.;)
That cheapo meter is a false economy, you would do well to dump it!
Good digital PH meter can be had for $30.
The "el-cheapo" has cost you more than that in buds already.
Now, we wait patiently for the folks that actually know their stuff.
Bet Stinky Attic nails your symptoms at a glance.:)
Best of luck
Weezard
Greenthing
09-22-2008, 07:00 AM
blakout Relative humidity - 50-60% sometime see spike to 70, that is high.
In the flowering stage humidity should be around 30% to 40%.
blakout
09-23-2008, 03:12 PM
Morning everyone,
I did a flush two days ago and here is some more pictures I just took today. It seem like its getting a little worst. I think I just over fert it with the MG nutes or maybe too much molasses and cause some sort of lock out. I see what happen in the next couple days. Hopefully someone can pinpoint the problem and help me save my baby. Thank you everyone.
VC
stinkyattic
09-23-2008, 03:27 PM
You can't use distilled water without adding calmag plus. Get some immediately. You are killing your plants by calcium starvation.
How much molasses are you using, and is it the 'unsulfured' style?
You pH tester is garbage. Test your runoff using liquid indicator, which is more accurate. Keep it at 6.7.
blakout
09-23-2008, 04:02 PM
Where can I get calmag plus? is it sold in stores like lowes, homedepot or walmart? Yes, I'm using Grandma's unsulfured molasses and I use about 1 tablespoon per gallon. Thanks
stinkyattic
09-23-2008, 04:04 PM
Okay your molasses is fine, but you might want to stop for a little while.
You have to get calmag from a hydro shop. If you can't find it, switch to tap water right away, but you will be facing an uphill battle reversing the damage that has already been done without a correct supplement.
blakout
09-23-2008, 04:17 PM
Ok I found a local garden store that have Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus. Might as well pick up a liquid PH tester while I'm there. Thanks again stinky :D off I go to save my baby!
Greenthing
09-23-2008, 04:32 PM
Ok I found a local garden store that have Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus. Might as well pick up a liquid PH tester while I'm there. Thanks again stinky :D off I go to save my baby!
Yeah man I am happy that you got the help you needed Stinkyattic rocks:thumbsup:, keep us updated on how your baby is doing.:)
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