Attempting Indoor Grow (input please? =D)

[nick19882003]

Well..this is obviously my 1st attempt at growing and im on a very low budget light setup that costed me around 30 dollars but...they're shop lights..either way i was hoping i could get some input from some of ya'll fellers..well here's pics..

[nick19882003]

As you can see...as of right now i have them 2 per bucket. Today I'm going to the store to pick up another 4' light fixture and two more bulbs. There's already problems with not enough light and if i seperated them half the plants would be without light but here's a few more pics..not a whole lot to see but they've done pretty well actually. The soil is moisture control miracle gro brand lol and i let water sit outside in a cooler to "rid it of chlorine" or at least so i'm told..they actually have a real good smell to them and in my eyes they're somewhat healthy looking but obviously there's problems with the lower leaves getting light

:stoned::stoned:

[nick19882003]

o and just in case any wants to know the lights are just from home depot and they're called OTT-LITE (natural light supplement) that's all it says though besides the model number it says nothing about lumens or wattage

[Weezard]

Aloha Nick,

You will probably hear from a few "Experts" that you are doing everything "WRONG"!:)

Just smile and tend to your healthy looking girls.:cool:
There are many roads to success.

This is a pretty friendly forum.
If you run into trouble, just ask, and the solid folks around here will help you.
Even raw noobs and amateurs like me will try their best.:D

Looks like you have a fine start.

Do have a tip for ya.

After the water "sets a spell", and just before it "hits the dirt", aerate it.
Roots in pots need all the oxygen they can get.
It's a simple as half filling a jug then shake the hell out of it to dissolve air.

Easier, with a budget, get a cheap air pump and airstone for aquariums.
Let the water bucket bubble 24/7, (stops mosquitoes from breeding in it too).:cool:
Most county/city water supplies now use Chloramine which is a coumpound, instead of Chlorine, the gas.
So it does not dissipate, and takes a while to "break down", that's why they use it.
I believe the bubbler will speed that process.

Drain well, don't overwater, and enjoy!
Rewarding hobby, ya?:rastasmoke:

So far, they look good, all thing considered.:thumbsup:

Best of luck,
Weezard

[cigarettes42]

next time 1 plant per pot. also since your growing with floros you shouldnt let them veg to much and gain height under those lights. people say they get decent buds when they flip it 12/12 right away because if the plants are short those floros will penetrate them better making better buds. dont let em get to tall.

[nick19882003]

ahh thank you guys alot. See, when i decided i first wanted to grow i did some "research" on the internet from different sites and read up alot about it but they all said the pretty much same things...then i found this place...

i'll look into seeing about that water pump thing but until then and if i cant u say the bottle shaking thing will help? lol

and alright i been thinking about if i should put it through flowering or not i just know about as much about growing pot as a virgin is to having sex so..thank you guys alot for the input i could have possibly messed up already with the whole pot thing cuz my attempted outdoor grow went all crazy half way through flowering when i realized my "females" went "male"...that was a sad day but hey the best way to learn is from your own mistakes so i guess as soon as i get them moved into their own pots and the other fixture set up i'll put them through flowering and i'll try to get some more pictures up and hope for the best, in the mean time i'll appreciate any more help and thank you guys alot

[nick19882003]

next time 1 plant per pot. also since your growing with floros you shouldnt let them veg to much and gain height under those lights. people say they get decent buds when they flip it 12/12 right away because if the plants are short those floros will penetrate them better making better buds. dont let em get to tall.


ya i can already see some major problems...they are too tall and about half the plant doesn't even hardly get light much so i've been trying to give them like 1/4 turns hoping i can get a little more plant to see light but i'll just have to see how it goes (hopefully better than my outdoor)

[nick19882003]

here's an update...finally I found some temporary work so I picked up another fixture and buckets so I can finally move them 1 per pot and get a little bit more light to them..

They are real healthy looking for the most part(most of them) and for being floros they actually get quite a bit of light it seems but of course i'm not expecting to yield anything close to what I could with better lights but just saying IMHO it's not bad for my first attempt even though I made some mistakes


And can anyone tell me how long I should wait before giving them some nutes since i just transplanted



oh yeah and I got a couple of rinky dink grow floros hanging on the sides of the plants to help out with the light problem (they're not much but it's all I had when I started)

[nick19882003]

could anyone tell me at least if it's safe now to use nutes yet :(

[edub325]

how old are they

[trinitybound]

They look like they are coming along nicely.
If the roots got damaged I would give them a couple days after transplanting before you give nutes. they will need to create new roots before they will be able to use the food, maybe some vitamin B1, also try to find a fertilizer that has no Nitrogen, like some bat guano tea you could just pour on.
when i tried the miracle grow moisture control soil it seemed to have plenty of fertilizer in it. I also noticed it seems to hold too much water when indoors. Have you had that problem?

[nick19882003]

ya it holds water for what seems like forever but I let it get really really dry before i transplanted and I dont give it quite as much water now

[DTRave420]

Hey there nick!!!,

Seems to be comin' along...

Next time I would use smaller pots,a shorter veg time and one plant per pot...

Hope everything comes together for you as far as work goes...

If you find yourself with extra money to put into your grow,I'd invest in another light...I'd try a T-5 light system for your top light and hang the lights you have now vertically to help light the lower portion of your grows...

Good luck bro...:420thought:

[nick19882003]

oooooooooooooh a t-5 light system, where do u think I could go about getting one of those :D

yes I made a few honest mistakes I should have had a camera sooner to get on here so I could get some help but heck I learned alot from my outdoor grow messing up and going hermi and from what I've done with my indoor grow so hopefully I"ll do alot better next time

but any idea where I could get that at, probably online? as i havn't seen them at wal mart or home depot lol

thank you much tho dt

:smokin::smokin::smokin:

[nick19882003]

alright i got some 'magnesium sulphate' says it has 9.5% magnesium total

12.5 water soluble magnesium and something about sulfur

also

'super phosphate' which says 0-18-0


would those be good to use for it through flowering and cut off the miracle gro crap with nitro in it:rastasmoke: :smokebong:

[trinitybound]

I'm not sure about the magnesium, but the super phosphate would help, start out with low dose and work your way up.
You can get some T5 lights from home depot.

[nick19882003]

really..hmmm I didn't see anything like that up there I got the only "grow bulbs" they had maybe it's cause this is a small area, idk but i'll check more thoroughly


ya i'll probably start low with one on a plant and a low dose on another just to see if its gonna do any harm but it will be a few days before i put them into flowering so hopefully someone will know about the magnesium by then:thumbsup:

[nick19882003]

oooh the t5 bulbs are the ones that are real skinny about half the diamater of the normal floros?? in that case I might be able to pick a couple up






also the phosphate is in a granual form and doesn't mix well with water, i believe it's meant to be put into the soil...is this still safe to use?

[trinitybound]

here is a link to good deals on flouro bulbs
T5, T8, T10, and T12 Fluorescent Grow Lamps - Plantlighting Hydroponics & Grow Lights (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/grow-bulbs-fluorescent-c-73.html)

I wouldn't use the granual fert, it's probably time release. Get a bag or bottle of bat guano, or some fox farm big bloom

don't use the magnesium phosphate, that's epsom salts you won't need that

[nick19882003]

dang you just shut me down..lol

that's all I can find around here 'literally' and with no access to a credit card or any type of plant nursery or thing like that within probably 100 miles i'm very limited and somewhat screwed as far as nutes go for flowering lol.

oh well I'll just forget about the nutes I suppose and try to keep my plants as healthy as possible but thank you :D


also i'm gonna ask for a litle bit more advice...are the ones with low numbers like 2500k better for flowering so I should probably try to pick up one or two of those? or should i just go ahead and go for 5000k or 6500k

thank you again:stoned:

[trinitybound]

I didn't realize you were out in the country. I'm sure you could get away with soaking the granules in water and using that.

the 2500 to 3000k bulbs would be for flowering you can get em anywhere there also called warm white. :thumbsup:

[nick19882003]

thank you

I might try that through flowering on a couple and see if there's any difference

also very soon i'm gonna get a ph tester for the water and soil testers to test the level of nutreints because all i've had is something that measures 'light/fertility/ph/moisture/ but it's not worth a hoot besides the ph measuring but thanks for the input:stoned::stoned:

[nick19882003]

I have a problem...it's getting really cold like 39 degrees in the morning and this room is right next to a real big window that doesn't open up and the house is from like the 1920s and doesn't have any seal from the basement or outside and I have a bad feeling this isn't gonna be a good winter I dont see how many mornings they could take 45 degrees and lower temps :confused: or course a little space heater or something is an option but I need to look into getting a coupe spaces sealed up with no bugdet :wtf:

:stoned::stoned:

[nick19882003]

Well the babies have been in flowering for a little over a week now and I can already see pre-flowers showing on mama. Also I somewhat got the fan fixed up so it dont shut off and on quite as much now, I got a thermometer and humidity meter that measures temp in 2 places and I got a little electric heater that has a thermostat and I have it to kick on if temps drop below 65(hopefully) everything else looks pretty good they same to have taken the fact that I ripped their roots all the hell transplanting them right before flowering pretty well. Now my only problems are I'm still pending on nutrients and a t-5 fixture with 2 or 4 more 4' bulbs..now that would be great

[nick19882003]

Ok I have a question about my plants.

I dont know if this should be in the outdoor section(probably) but instead of making a new thread i'll just update this one.

I caught a couple males after putting them through flowering and I'm wondering if it takes around the same time for males seeds to fully mature as it does females to finish flowering.

I moved the two males I caught outside and it's getting colder. The tops of the seed sacs are turning purple which i believe is from the coldness. Also the first frost is coming in and i'm gonna have to bring them in for that night in order to try to keep them alive long enough to get beans.

Also i plan on borrowing the camera again and taking pics of my babies now, they're actually looking good now that they're in flowering with big, beautiful hairs and tricomes coming in good too :D

[trinitybound]

You won't need much from the males, watch the pollen sacks because when they start opening that pollen could drift for a mile. I'm not sure what you should do at this point but I know you can save some of the pollen sacks and pollinate a couple buds by hand that way you will still have some sensimilla to smoke.

[nick19882003]

well this was a pretty stupid question then...

I was wondering how long it takes them to get mature it sounds like a male dont' produce seeds? without pollinating a female??or are you just saying it's alot easier that way..

i'd like to pollenate a couple buds in order for some of these seeds im just worried of pollinatin the other plants in the room or pollinating too much i was gonna wait for a the male to mature but it's stupid to have them outside i run too much of a risk doing that all for a little bit of seeds =/

[4x4Turbo]

well this was a pretty stupid question then...

I was wondering how long it takes them to get mature it sounds like a male dont' produce seeds? without pollinating a female??or are you just saying it's alot easier that way..

i'd like to pollenate a couple buds in order for some of these seeds im just worried of pollinatin the other plants in the room or pollinating too much i was gonna wait for a the male to mature but it's stupid to have them outside i run too much of a risk doing that all for a little bit of seeds =/


You're pretty much right, the female will produce seeds IF pollinated. From my understanding you can keep the male in a different room than the females under a few cfl's ect. and once the pollen sacks open you can take a plastic bag, shake the pollen off the male and pollinate just a few bud sites by placing the bag over the bud site and rub the bag on it. Just make sure pollen doesn't go everywhere :D Thats the key.