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bhouncy
09-12-2008, 07:36 PM
Well?

For me it is the most beautiful thing. Loving the universe and everything in it.

I practice it daily. If I have been hurt by someone I practice it.

Love and Peace to all you wonderful people.

Coelho
09-12-2008, 08:03 PM
I would like to... but my heart (if i actually have one) is empty, dry and cold, so i just cant. In fact, i cant practice even conditional love...

bhouncy
09-12-2008, 08:07 PM
I would like to... but my heart (if i actually have one) is empty, dry and cold, so i just cant. In fact, i cant practice even conditional love...

Awww.. *hugs*

Breukelen advocaat
09-12-2008, 08:08 PM
I practice unconditional hate.

bhouncy
09-12-2008, 08:17 PM
I practice unconditional hate.

I find that creates feelings like anger and aggression. I much prefer feeling like I'm rushing on ecstasy.

Dream of the iris
09-12-2008, 09:28 PM
What's your technique? Mine is simply being aware.

painretreat
09-12-2008, 09:54 PM
Yes I do and have: Sick and tired of practicing! My new goal in life:

Practice RECEIVING unconditional love! My dog can do that, so anyone could, right!! ;)

I am sick of giving! It is my turn, dammit!! Just not exact today though! Not sure I am up to it yet!

Imagine, the flowers, trees, birds, bees and a lucky person that has that in their heart! I'll dream of how, you can spot one! Binoculars? 30X magnifying glass (might have more luck-in a grow room)!:cool:
:thumbsup: PR

silkyblue
09-12-2008, 09:55 PM
you must forgive yourself
forgive your enemys
treat your body as a temple
love yourself no matter what

inner peace

love never fails
love always wins

painretreat
09-12-2008, 09:58 PM
I think the lawyers are the winners! My experience and :twocents::twocents:

silkyblue
09-12-2008, 10:05 PM
I think the lawyers are the winners! My experience


roflmbo!
your right dude! throw in the Doctors and the govment critters


"we up the crik withour paddles"

painretreat
09-12-2008, 10:13 PM
roflmbo!
your right dude! throw in the Doctors and the govment critters


"we up the crik withour paddles" & money! Good thing I like to fish! pr :thumbsup:

Coelho
09-12-2008, 10:37 PM
Awww.. *hugs*

If youre a girl: *hugs back*
If youre a guy: WTF??? :wtf:

LOL!:D

Gandalf_The_Grey
09-13-2008, 01:13 AM
*BIG HUGS* to you Coelho. Big gay hugs.



Ummmmm... I practice unconditional annoyance. Most people really annoy me. I can safely say from years of experience that the world has rejected me, and nobody shows me love, so why the hell should I have love for the world? Probably an easier endeavor for those with friends and mates and whatnot. :wtf:

Coelho
09-13-2008, 03:00 AM
*BIG HUGS* to you Coelho.

What the hell is going on with you people?? Is there some virus of gayness floating around there? DAMNIT!!! :mad:

LOL! :D



Big gay hugs.
The same for you old chap

delusionsofNORMALity
09-13-2008, 03:22 AM
unconditional love?
unconditional hatred?
unconditional annoyance?

i've always been a big fan of unconditional indifference. yes; i'm a crotchety old fart who lives alone and i'm probably a bit bitter as well, but having little or no concern over those around me has stood me quite well for the last few decades and will probably satisfy me til the day i die. it isn't that i really don't give a damn about the rest of humanity, it's just that the people around me seem so insubstantial and appear to have absolutely no impact on my life. whether they adore me or despise me, it really doesn't seem to matter one little bit.

painretreat
09-13-2008, 09:12 AM
Coelho: gay means joyful! I believe! and you got a cheerful hug. Take it for what it is, as you kindly did and with such confidence--I love it! You are not being insulted, unconditionallly loved by so many of us! I think a lot of you! A psychological fact. those that are uncomfortable with 'gays' are generally uncomfortable with their own sex identity. I see you as a strong and confident man, from ever so many posts and threads I've read by you! I rad and think, I hope I go to Brazil one day, what a jewel they have there!

So a very nice lady bug hug to you-hope it helps! Plus, I think with all your awesome receipes--I thot you were a chick for quite some time! I think you rock and have a great deal of self confidence and hi on the likeability chart! Plus, you were MAN ENOUGH to say, :wtf: hugs back. That takes a very well adjusted person to do that! I cannot believe you are single-but some like it for all the time, some for some of the time and some for none of the time!
A man that cooks weed, rocks--that is all there is to it and bakes it too! Am waiting for your Barnes & Noble mmj cookbook! I do like you as you are! Have learned so much from you and respect you. You is :cool:!

Don: that explains a lot of what I've read from you!! I feel for you! I agree with you in a manner of speaking. I live by the tune that not everyone is going to get along or like me and that is just fine. That is what makes our world interesting! Some are rude about it, but it is their problem! It takes too much energy to take others bad vibes and feel anything about them (I will never have to hate someone-but it would be an adventure). When you send out vibes of kindness and love, it just feels better, in your heart! And sometimes comes back to you (so does the dark side). :( My wish for you, is to experience 'unconditional love!'

If you walk around and just smile at a person for no reason at all! It has been my experience they will say, " I love your smile!!" Either move on or try to start a conversation. I so not care for people in general, like my reclusivity--but I enjoy sending and showing SINCERE good feelings to see others day get brightened, cause it brightens mine! Have been told how appreciated it is, and how 'lady, I needed that, thank you!' It takes no energy to send out good feelings. I never have to see them again and it makes my heart fuzzy warm! I don't care how they feel about me--I care how I am treated! Which is why, I am all for unconditional love on the receiving end, just once in my life and not from my dogs! Oops, in addition to my dog-can't live without:thumbsup:

I have always known it, even if I don't feel any special feelings toward a person, I realize, I don't know them well enough to hate them or be indifferent! I attempt to set a better example. If it doesn't work, I just give up and send for good karma and boundless love for them! :D

You meet that person that just warms your heart and rocks your world. You don't know why, it just feels so warm and fuzzy and the hours of being alone watching your favorite show with popcorn and weed are enjoyable, but with unconditional love, you enjoy an afternoon drive and just feel at ease and know you don't have to talk and that connection is there. It is a special one, even if it is one sided.

If you are alone and 'stopping to smell the rose's'--like viewing Hatch's (a few other camera buffs) Trichomes and interesting pictures of such beautiful places and buds= my fav. grow logs! You can love yourself and get warm and fuzzy with all the planets in alignment! I give in and give it my all and say no no risk, no gain! (like growing)!:thumbsup:

Gandalf-you have so many people here that love and care about you. Have expressed it to you and you tend to ignore or refuse it! YOU ARE LOVED! Face it, you just need more than most. That is the type of person that it takes to be President or Oprah like!! You need the love, cause you got dropped on the head or spanked on the face instead of the butt when you were born (just kdding). I keep waiting to hear you say how you appreciate how much people are there for you and caring. Are you back in college yet? Hope so! Life just challenges us and that makes us a better person: If to no one else, to ourselves! After all, we are the only one we really have to live with! Might as well make it a good ride and enjoy it!

It gets old 'just giving' all you have and never having the other person commit to the unconditional part! That is what is so nice of nature, a spring, a deer in the headlight, little critters that are a nuisance are even fun and cute to watch ( a baby mouse, horny toad, chipmunk, quail birds, babbling brook or awesome sky line! Whatever it takes. Plus, it is so enjoyable to share them with another that you love!

B Adv.: You are cool and I think I recall, you work in one of the most stressful occupations on earth in the U.S.A. anyway. The people you work with are not of the best in the world. But, unconditonal hate, must make your days so lonnnngg! I think you are joking, I hope. I do not think I've ever seen you write such a thing (haven't read everything yet, though), mostly I see you as at the very least a content person! Certainly one that could and might already be loved unconditionally! ;)

SilkB: U got it, and understand. And I will add the Drs., gov't critters--'cept the ones I like and the ones on can.com! They are pretty cool and show unconditional love by all their response's to help us! I just want it back, they can keep the money! I want to know how it feels to be loved unconditionally! Just once! And not end up losing it all, in the end! It is possible to continue to unconditionally love and move on with someone else, too! I'd like to see that in my life as well and get to keep my little treasures I've had a lifetime, instead of watching them walk out with a greedy person I never saw through and let use me!

SilkB: Your first answer is what you are and me as well. It just seems we need the scales to balance!! I love your response. Because forgiveness and giving is where it is at. I am just feeling It is my turn and I bet u too!

bhouncey--what a wonderful and thoughtful thread! You must be a very special person!! Lucky people around you! Would love to have a person like you as a good friend! see friend request, please, I beg of you--I need the love! You have a wonderful attitude and I hope it lasts your entire lifetime!

It is nice to wake up and look out my window at all the chipmunks and little creatures, hours of entertainment.

A few weeks ago, I experienced meeting someone like you bouncey! He was a 45ish (don't know age) fellow. Was doing some yard work for me. When I wanted him to kill some rattlesnakes the best he would do is let me take the rattles and re-locate it. If I had known, I'd have left the rattles. Got them and then asked to turn the head around so I could chop it--he took off and said no! Later i was walking to move something and I stepped on a dead mouse (was near the snakes anyway). He got a little upset, I was feeling so awful for killing it (at least in front of him) and he said, "I accidently killed it, moved the dog house, it was under it and it was squashed!" We saw a real tiny baby mouse running and then flipped the mouse over, it was her new baby and doubt if it survives, ick! I respected and admire him for his sincere feelings of protecting all of our cute little creatures (even if those things eat my wires to my car, RV and cost a great deal of money. I do have State issued poison for them, and he wasn't too pleased about it! I just think of him as a very warm and loving guy. EVen told me when his girlfriend got Diabetes, it changed his life and the family. He spoke of her with 'unconditional love' instead of pretending he was single and on the chase! That gave me something to aspire to! He doesn't kill spiders either! I was impressed!

So, I guess the best way to impress me, is show and talk with a tone of unconditional love! It is contagious! We would not be at war and people hurting others, etc.

I vote for unconditonal love, world wide!!! I also vote for to receive it at home, all the time! I have seen people that appear to have it and I admit, it stirs my angst!

Most of all I love my mmj supplier and he knows it, with a hug and a kiss (a straight kiss on the cheek-he is married and a great dad and husband!

bhouncy--I hope this is not a jacking of your thread, if so, I so apologize! And will C if I can get it removed! It is a very interesting one for me. Since, I am dealing with the legal part of something that ended 2 years ago! I am very ready to move on, but you get stuck in legal stuff! And all I want is just my half-not the nothing at all syndrome that is on the table now! So, I hope I have your forgiveness, if I jacked (let me know-I am not exactly sure what all is considered a thread jack yet?), not my intention. Just that is where I am! And I love this topic!

Went to my mmj education meeting tonight, got my free mmj cupcake and feel so much better tonight! :rastasmoke:

Thanks for the thread! pr :thumbsup:

Most important, to give unconditional love, I believe we need to respect ourself first! Live a life we are not ashamed of. I try so hard to do that-to a point, my lawyer is pissed. I will only tell the truth, even if the other party is lying! I have to live with and look at the mirror at myself for the rest of my life. I need to live well enough to respect that person so I can others! :twocents: too many I expect!

I stay on can.com, cause I feel the love and I secretly admire someone! Which makes it all the more fun and enjoyable!

Peace and love to those that can accept it! :smokin: thread! :thumbsup:pr :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Toke more and love more! pr

painretreat
09-13-2008, 09:28 AM
Sorry, it is a book man: I tried to edit but the server is "too busy" and "too busy"! At 2:25 A.M.!! I guess, i am not for infolinks, this is not good, cannot edit.

My sincerest apology to everyone! Deleted a lot too! And corrected some spelling, and no edit!! grrrh!!

is it my eyes or are the InfoLinks gone? pr

Hollywierdtoker
09-13-2008, 06:52 PM
Unconditional love is something I have for everyone. Some people don't understand it. Unconditional anything is pretty easy...taking things on a personal level is a little harder...especially with where I live, and the people that live here...but I love you. It's especially hard for people to accept when you are male haha...

epilepticme
09-13-2008, 06:56 PM
Peace, Hugs, Unconditional Love and Big Green Tasty Buds to all!

DaBudhaStank
09-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Unconditional love is a lot like peace: fake. I'm sorry, but I have to call out everyone who says they practice it as a liar. Not necesarrily a bad person, more like misinformed. People only do things because they expect something in return. They might not know it exactly, but it's absolutely true. It might only be for that little warm glow in your stomach, or it might be because you get paid, but no one does anything nice just to do it. Not even priests, because they'll go to hell if they don't. A cynical view of the world, I know, but that's just how humans work, we're selfish and will do almost everything possible to survive. In the end that's all being nice will help to do; hopefully keep you alive a bit longer.

delusionsofNORMALity
09-14-2008, 12:36 AM
Don: that explains a lot of what I've read from you!! I feel for you!.....
.....My wish for you, is to experience 'unconditional love!'that slight disconnect from the rest of reality is a useful tool in dealing with the madness, both my own and that of the rest of humanity. i consider my bitterness as a recovering alcoholic considers that next drink, knowing it as a crutch and shying away at the last moment for the sake of his own sanity. my unconditional indifference is not absolute, just as my unconditional loves were not. yes, i have been there and some remnants remain.

man was not meant for unconditional anything, our rational minds are far too restless. our instincts betray us as we search for weakness even in those we love, knowing that they too are searching for some lapse in contentment. our better selves may forgive, but that evil spark within us all will never forget.

DaBudhaStank
09-14-2008, 12:53 AM
man was not meant for unconditional anything.

I think that line sums up humanity in general. Man always tries to feel like we were MEANT to do something, when in fact I dont believe we were MEANT to do anything at all. Of course, I'm skewing this line to my own ends, but whatever. I've always felt that man is just here to make our own way, to do the best that we can with what we have. Sometimes I feel like we overestimate ourselves, in that we search for peace, zen, internal balance, ya know, nirvana, that type of thing. I feel like its not actually something our psyches can even achieve. But we also underestimate ourselves, or rather we underestimate each other and what we can do. Complicated.

delusionsofNORMALity
09-14-2008, 01:27 AM
that man is meant for anything at all is the ultimate conceit. we exist, isn't that enough? we are meant to live and to die and to fertilize the plains with whatever is left over. we search everywhere for meaning and patterns, always finding (surprise, surprise!) that which we seek.

Hollywierdtoker
09-14-2008, 02:28 AM
People only do things because they expect something in return. I don't expect anything in return. I love because I can. It doesn't cost anything. I love you! hehe...

Coelho
09-14-2008, 06:06 AM
Coelho: gay means joyful! I believe! and you got a cheerful hug. Take it for what it is, as you kindly did and with such confidence--I love it! You are not being insulted, unconditionallly loved by so many of us! I think a lot of you! A psychological fact. those that are uncomfortable with 'gays' are generally uncomfortable with their own sex identity. I see you as a strong and confident man, from ever so many posts and threads I've read by you! I rad and think, I hope I go to Brazil one day, what a jewel they have there!

So a very nice lady bug hug to you-hope it helps! Plus, I think with all your awesome receipes--I thot you were a chick for quite some time! I think you rock and have a great deal of self confidence and hi on the likeability chart! Plus, you were MAN ENOUGH to say, :wtf: hugs back. That takes a very well adjusted person to do that! I cannot believe you are single-but some like it for all the time, some for some of the time and some for none of the time!
A man that cooks weed, rocks--that is all there is to it and bakes it too! Am waiting for your Barnes & Noble mmj cookbook! I do like you as you are! Have learned so much from you and respect you. You is :cool:!


Wow Painretreat! If i were prone to blushing, i would be pretty red right now...

Well... i wasnt really annoyed with their hugs... i was only following the "males code of conduct" which states, among other things, that men must react angrily at anything that resemble gayness (in the usual [not joyful] meaning), or even anything that be not very manly... Gandalf is a man, and im pretty sure Bhouncy is also, so i was sure they would understand. It was not serious, thats why i put the :Ds.

Its very sexist, i know... and im sure you only thought i was a woman because i never show my sexist opinions here... if i did so, you wouldnt only be sure i am a man, but also would think im a chauvinist pig... lol!

Anyway... conducts code or not, i always enjoy a ladys hug, so *hugs back* :)
If you ever come to Brasil some day, tell me, so you will have the opportunity to give me a real hug... you will be very welcome here, and im sure you will love here! We brasilians love foreign people, ask anyone who have been here... and its a wonderful place! Beautiful places, nice weather, nice people, no hurricanes, no earthquakes, no wars, no terrorists... and if a cop catch you with weed (what rarely happens), some $10 is all you need... :D

BTW my experience with cooking with weed is far more theoretical than practical... unfortunately i only had plenty of weed during one year, when i tried all the recipes i could think of... now i only can remember that good days and dream about when i will have the opportunity to revive them again...

And yes, even being so "likeable", "self-confident", "strong" and all that very kind words you said, im single... not by lack of girls, but by my own choice. When i used to have feelings, i knew how feels to love someone and dont be loved back. As now i have not feelings anymore, i know that if i started a relationship with a girl, it would be only to harm her feelings, cause she would be loving me while i wouldnt be loving her back. As i dont think its nice to harm anyone in such cruel way, i prefer to be alone.

Concerning unconditional love, i think its better give it than recieve it. As almost anything else, recieving is good, but giving is better. I cant explain, but it feels different. So, if you can spread love for the people around you, do it, and enjoy. Cause it will do a lot of good to you, more than you can even concieve... and if you only get evil from other people, even better for you. Once i did read a very interesting thing that was something like this:
"When you do good for someone, you are accumulating virtue for you, and when you do evil for someone, youre giving they your own virtue."
So, if you do good, you get virtue, and if they pay you back with evil, you get even more virtue... I think its a thing to think about...

painretreat
09-14-2008, 09:34 AM
DaBuddaS: If you knew me, you would think differently of one person in the world. I did not learn unconditional love, until I was 30. So, I just peeked, you have some time yet! Hope it doesn't take you as long as me.

DoN: Respect your opinion and understand so much more. Thanks for the insight.

Coelho: What can I say :jumphappy: U make me want to go to Brazil! Every since I read your first thread!! I'm red faced! ;) Your post was extremely interesting and I like to read more of true feelings, such as yours! Now, I know, you must protect yourself for putting yourself 'out there' and not having that full feeling of love! I believe love is learned, as all behavior is! I had to learn it!

I actually learned it from a dog. Dam thing, was so stubborn, hard to train, 2 yr. old and a pain (could go on) but the biggest challenge of my life at that point! You could not keep him in a house (15 lb Shih tzu). No matter what I did to him or how much I scolded him, I just loved that little guy so much, I had never felt like that. I yell 'No" and he would run up to me with his little tongue hanging out, panting, tapping his front feet and bouncie! Such cheerful eyes and loyal! My best friend at the time was a psychotherapist! I told her, I just love that little dog and I don't understand it. I can't wait to get home from work or take him for a ride, whatever. It seems so odd for me! She said: "That's unconditional love!" He died a few years later, unexpectedly--I was a wreck for many months. For the first time in my life! That is when the light went on! This is what we need to do for each other, as people! So, I apply it in my life, without notice now! I still have dogs, though. Even if I am having to go to court to get them back right now, I love that little funny happy furry face. Problem is: I have never felt that from another human being! It is a time thing, it never happens over night. EVen with a dog, it takes time!

Now, cheapseats.com here I come!!! Take care you are special! PR :thumbsup:

oh, Billionfold: at least it isn't a "pig fest, clean up on isle 7!" have a good one!:jointsmile:

TurnyBright
09-14-2008, 03:18 PM
Unconditional love is the ONLY real love. "Romantic" love is usually more an expression of fear!

painretreat
09-15-2008, 02:43 AM
Unconditional love is the ONLY real love. "Romantic" love is usually more an expression of fear!

Now that makes sense!! :thumbsup: pr

Coelho
09-19-2008, 05:38 AM
Unconditional love is the ONLY real love.

I agree completly!


"Romantic" love is usually more an expression of fear!

Well... i would say that romantic love is an expression of sexual desire, parent love is an expression of possessivity (MY son/daughter) or self-love (as sons and daughters are actually a part of their fathers/mothers), and filial love is a expression of the need for protection, care and nourishment.
So, the only true love is the one felt for everyone or everything, without any other reasons, desires or attachments. The one which is given by free without need of retribution of any kind.

Coelho
09-19-2008, 05:53 AM
Coelho: What can I say :jumphappy: U make me want to go to Brazil! Every since I read your first thread!! I'm red faced! ;)

:)


Your post was extremely interesting and I like to read more of true feelings, such as yours!

Well... beware of knowing persons true feelings... if one day you know them as i do, you may turn into a misanthrope like me...


Now, I know, you must protect yourself for putting yourself 'out there' and not having that full feeling of love! I believe love is learned, as all behavior is! I had to learn it!

I already loved a lot... but after several things that happened i learned that all the loves i used to love (that were not the unconditional love) were only forms of attachment, and thus only sources of suffering (as it were). Then i dropped it. And now i only seek the unconditional love that is felt for all the living beings.


Problem is: I have never felt that from another human being!

Indeed... i dont know exactly why, but it seems human beings are the hardest beings to love (well... except mosquitoes and cats... damn them!)... i havent any difficulty in loving plants or animals... but humans, no way.

painretreat
09-19-2008, 10:39 AM
I have read and sure enjoy posts, well said. I'll comment more in a few day. In a about 4 hours my 2 little undonditional loves are going to be here. I am so excited, my 2 little dogs. Now, a plan to excape and run away with them!
Sadly, if it weren't for my first little dog (there wouldn't be a second. etc..0 anyway, it was my firt experiance with unconditonal love. To correct a dog, it turns aound excited to see you an crazy aoug you I gotta sleep quick. And then I will rememeber what it was like to receive!!! pr :D

flyingimam
09-19-2008, 11:01 AM
i practice unconditional love, but do have personal provisions to exclude certain people from it, not everyone deserves it.

there is a difference between unconditional love and obsession, right? or are they the same thing?

I mean, they very much look the same to me.

seattlesmoke247
09-19-2008, 12:17 PM
there is a difference between unconditional love and obsession, right? or are they the same thing?

I mean, they very much look the same to me.


was trying to think of what to post and read that /\

painretreat
09-20-2008, 05:56 AM
Wow, that is certainly interesting! Obsession is sick and often escalates to violence or worse, emotionally and mentally! :twocents: I think from obsession comes nothing good! Well, unless the 2 objects both have it--but even then, I doubt it can last forever on both sides and turn to trouble.

Unconditional love is a very good feeling.

When others take advantage of it, you simply avoid them, if you have fear of safety. My guess!;)