Barack Obama Swipe at Palin "Lipstick on a Pig"

[Breukelen advocaat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

"You can put lipstick on a pig.........it's still a pig."
Barack Obama

Some of his rather corpulent supporters in the front rows of the audience certainly prove that point. :cool:

[khronik]

It wasn't a swipe at Palin, it was a swipe at McCain's policies. He didn't mention Palin at all.

[Breukelen advocaat]

It wasn't a swipe at Palin, it was a swipe at McCain's policies. He didn't mention Palin at all.
Palin's pit bulls and lipstick comment the other day - you still think he wasn't referring to her?

[khronik]

Palin's pit bulls and lipstick comment the other day - you still think he wasn't referring to her?
It's a common expression in the south, he was in Virginia, he's said it before Palin was nominated, and HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PALIN.

[Breukelen advocaat]

It's a common expression in the south, he was in Virginia, he's said it before Palin was nominated, and HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PALIN.

He said it yesterday. I'd be more astonished than angered that he was not intelligent enough to realize what a remark like this would be seen as, in the context of recent history.
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/09/AR2008090903531.html?hpid=topnews)

[The Figment]

Is this what National Politics has boiled down too? A Partisan debate on lipstic,Pigs and Pitbulls??

"In his best Mr VanDreason Voice"Umm I think we need to Focus Here....Ok Focus Now People,Focus!!

[dragonrider]

It's a very common expression, and we used it all the time at the last place I worked. We made software products, and whenever we had to rush an extra-crappy piece of kluged software into a release, we'd try to "spin" the defects as "features." We called that "putting lipstick on a pig."

The funny thing is that I watched Palin's speech, and when she made the lipstick comment, the first thing that flashed into my mind was "lipstick on a pig!" No, not lipstick on a dog, Sarah! Lipstick on a PIG! I was amazed she even used that comment, because it immediatly brought up the lipstick-on-a-pig image for me.

I have no idea if Obama was making fun of Palin's comment of not, but it definitely is a very well-known saying for dressing up something ugly as something nice. And that is exactly what he was saying the McCain campaign was doing. So I think he had a valid reason for using the saying. (But if he WAS capping on her lipstick comment, then I think that is HILLARIOUS too! Ha ha ha ha!)

[Reefer Rogue]

The point is, McCain is claiming to bring change, but he votes with Bush 90% of the time. Lipstick on a pig.. it's like a wolf in sheeps clothing.. it's still a wolf, and McCain is still 90% bushite.

[khronik]

To be fair, a lot of the 90% of the votes that McCain and Bush both supported were probably things like "supporting the goals and ideals of cancer awareness week" or stuff like that. I can't wait till he's out of office either, but it's only fair.

[8182KSKUSH]

Well, I really don't think he was trying to say anything about my wife, but I think you are right breuk, it was bad judgment in this hyper sensitive political season, he is smart and he should have extrapolated out a little bit, he would have realized how it may be taken by some. But maybe he did and just said fuck it, and fuck them. Maybe he didn't think about it at all. Who knows, maybe he heard Palin make her lipstick comment and it subconsciously suggested that phrase in his mind, he's probably heard it a time or two I am guessing. Probably right as he was walking up to Hillary talking to one of the other democratic candidates! Right before she said, "oh oh, here he comes, Heeeeeey Baaaaary!":D

Did anyone hear what Khadafi said about Obama? Funny as hell! Apparently Obama has lost a key supporter or just pissed him off!

[Rusty Trichome]

The point is, McCain is claiming to bring change, but he votes with Bush 90% of the time. Lipstick on a pig.. it's like a wolf in sheeps clothing.. it's still a wolf, and McCain is still 90% bushite.
No...telling half the tale is bullshit.
Have you bothered to check and see how many times Osama has voted down the Pelosi/Reid line? (when he takes time out of his busy, 24 month campaign schedule to cast a vote, that is)
Tis idiotic to think Barack Hussein Osama is anything other than an inexperienced left-wing hack, wiping the lipstick off of his wife's porcine lips...

[TheMetal1]

Pretty sure McCain has used the same exact phrase when speaking of Hillary Clinton and her policies in the past... a few times. Sensitivity has no place in this election. Too much important shit going on to even waste time analyzing remarks like this. All it does is allow the media to spend ALL day talking about it... thus creating time lost for the Obama campaign. (Note: this tactic works both ways... when parties start trying to find hidden insults in every sentence, it just detracts from WHAT MATTERS)

Gov. Palin literally said that there is no difference between a mother with kids that play hockey and an aggressive breed of canine... other than lipstick. It is an expression that can be viewed as an insult when deconstructed and spun.

Maybe they should just hug and be friends? :hippy:

[kingjustin]

No...telling half the tale is bullshit.
Have you bothered to check and see how many times Osama has voted down the Pelosi/Reid line? (when he takes time out of his busy, 24 month campaign schedule to cast a vote, that is)
Tis idiotic to think Barack Hussein Osama is anything other than an inexperienced left-wing hack, wiping the lipstick off of his wife's porcine lips...

You should work for fox news. It is completely idiotic and laughable to keep calling him Osama and emphasizing his middle name.

And in case you haven't noticed, McCain hasn't taken much time out of his busy 24 month campaign to vote either.

[dragonrider]

Tis idiotic to think Barack Hussein Osama is anything other than an inexperienced left-wing hack..

Barack Hussein Osama

My, God! He sounds like a Muslim, and his last name rhymes with a terrorist's!

John Sidney McPain III

Holy crap! Sidney makes him sound like a closet Australian!
McPain! What's he going to do? Drill our teeth without novacaine! Drill here! Drill Now! But I'm not numb yet! Aaaaaaaaaarggh!!!!
The THIRD! Cripes! Sounds like the freakin' Earl of Sammiches!

We can always count on you to bring some mature and well-thought-out commentary, Rusty!

[TheMetal1]

Dragonrider... it says you made that post @ 9:11 on 9/10 :wtf: What are you trying to pull? Is it a countdown? Who the hell are you? What shade of lipstick is that? :jointsmile:

Haha I wish I could give you Rep :stoned: For other posts too.

[eg420ne]

Ha! funny the repubes grasping for straws on this, they just cant stand it when they get hit back........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHAOodl6ZfE
McDumbass smears Hillary as lipstick on a pig....

[dragonrider]

Dragonrider... it says you made that post @ 9:11 on 9/10 :wtf: What are you trying to pull? Is it a countdown? Who the hell are you? What shade of lipstick is that? :jointsmile:


If you knew my full name, you'd really be worried --- Saddam bin Laden al Zawahiri "Dragonrider" McVey.

The lipstick color is called "Sea of Blood."

[dragonrider]

Ha! funny the repubes grasping for straws on this, they just cant stand it when they get hit back........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHAOodl6ZfE
McDumbass smears Hillary as lipstick on a pig....

Ha ha! Very funny! It's a very common phrase and McCain uses it too!

The video makes the very good point that Palin is the "lipstick," not the "pig." The pig is McCain's same old policies, while Palin is the lipstick brought in to freshen up the image of that nasty, smelly, old pig.

[eg420ne]

Obama Blasts McCain on Lipstickgate: Enough of the lies and distractions!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zAbeu3v3Wc

[Rusty Trichome]

Barack Hussein Osama. I've never claimed to be a good speller, lol. Has a nice ring to it tho? IMHO, this is no different than the sociaist presidential nominee calling the Republican VP nominee a pig. But why is it that when someone adopts the same tactics as the left-wing bloggers that you liberals all hold in such high esteem, you cry "foul"? You post your propoganda, I'll post mine. :thumbsup: (altho mine doesn't come from wanna-be "journalist" hacks, posing as political intellectuals on some partisan blog) Seems to me it's akin to the liberal instructors telling our kids to question authority. (just not our authority) A true double standard, with a bit of indoctrination thrown-in.

And my, he sure is busy now-a-days, correcting "out of context" or "false issues", his religion, his voting records... Is this how he's planning on handling US foreign affairs? Call them names till the polls show he must be right, and the foreign powers submit to his superior childishness?

Image is everything, and Osama appears to be a whining punk.

All the liberals are crying that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time...but still my question as to whether anyone else has looked into the comparison between the Obama voting record, and his party's incompetent leadership's votes, goes unanswered. C'mon...I want to hear this from a liberal...

To me it's sooo funny watching everyone focus all of their attention to the conservative VP. The more they insult her...the more they invent lies and slander, the more severe the backlash will be. Keep it up, tho. The lies, slander and partianship has already cost some liberals their jobs. (MSNBC hacks) And if I'm not mistaken...isn't McCain doing much better in the polls, since Osama decided to piss-off half of america with his sexist statements and insincere retractions.

I wonder who Obama will choose as his VP...? Perhaps we'll hear from him sometime, lol.

[dragonrider]

Barack Hussein Osama. I've never claimed to be a good speller, lol. Has a nice ring to it tho? IMHO, this is no different than the sociaist presidential nominee calling the Republican VP nominee a pig. But why is it that when someone adopts the same tactics as the left-wing bloggers that you liberals all hold in such high esteem, you cry "foul"? You post your propoganda, I'll post mine. :thumbsup: (altho mine doesn't come from wanna-be "journalist" hacks, posing as political intellectuals on some partisan blog) Seems to me it's akin to the liberal instructors telling our kids to question authority. (just not our authority) A true double standard, with a bit of indoctrination thrown-in.

And my, he sure is busy now-a-days, correcting "out of context" or "false issues", his religion, his voting records... Is this how he's planning on handling US foreign affairs? Call them names till the polls show he must be right, and the foreign powers submit to his superior childishness?

Image is everything, and Osama appears to be a whining punk.

All the liberals are crying that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time...but still my question as to whether anyone else has looked into the comparison between the Obama voting record, and his party's incompetent leadership's votes, goes unanswered. C'mon...I want to hear this from a liberal...

To me it's sooo funny watching everyone focus all of their attention to the conservative VP. The more they insult her...the more they invent lies and slander, the more severe the backlash will be. Keep it up, tho. The lies, slander and partianship has already cost some liberals their jobs. (MSNBC hacks) And if I'm not mistaken...isn't McCain doing much better in the polls, since Osama decided to piss-off half of america with his sexist statements and insincere retractions.

I wonder who Obama will choose as his VP...? Perhaps we'll hear from him sometime, lol.

Ha ha! Rusty is bashing Obama for childish name calling! While calling him "Osama" and a "whining punk"!

[eg420ne]

HAHAHAHAHA:abduct: USAma Bin Palin

[daihashi]

Honestly... I'm not sure if people have noticed but I've been commenting less and less in the politics forum. This is the reason why, people aren't discussing politics anymore and are just falling prey to media drama made to boost ratings.

Focus on the issues? I hate it equally as much as when people try to pin Obama down on trivial matters also.

So I've been holding back more so than usual and anticipate by the time it comes for the actual election I probably won't be participating at all. This election like all others before it is finally starting to enter the mud slinging phase.

Everyone sit back and watch the children play. :hippy:

[Rusty Trichome]

Ha ha! Rusty is bashing Obama for childish name calling! While calling him "Osama" and a "whining punk"!
I'm not the one running for office...but nice try. :jointsmile:

[dragonrider]

I'm not the one running for office...but nice try. :jointsmile:

You just might want to consider how it reflects on you, and whether anyone will take your arguments seriously or not. You have valid opinions, but when people see the name-calling, they just tune out everything.

[SnSstealth]

Same reason I have so few comments. While I do read these threads, I still have no fucking clue what you guys are ranting about. Seems to be a lot of political fellatio IMHO...Any of you guys paid lobbyists? Granted I am no one special, but PLEASE.... can't you guys argue about something a WEEE bit better than who said what about lipstick? What the shit does this have to do with who is gonna be president.

FACT: Either candidate elected isn't gonna change much of shit.
FACT: They are politicians!!! Isn't mudslinging all this is really about?
FACT: NOTHING IS GONNA CHANGE!!!!
FACT: NONE of you know either of them, so NONE of your FACTS can really be provable facts. You guys thrash each other for shitty sources, but hell, "he said, she said" is shitty no matter where it comes from ya? Dont suppose any of you havfe heard the saying "Believe half of what you see, and NONE of what you hear"?

You (broad sense of the word) just know what they are telling everyone else. Classic telling people what they wanna hear. How many times has a candidate said they would do something, and actually did when they got into office?

The only way any of us are gonna feel the difference in change of "power" is if you have a Fortune 500 company, and have been lining their pockets...The New World Order will be upon us soon....grab a seat:jointsmile:

Here guys...you need it:joint1:
whiskeytango

[Psycho4Bud]

It's a common expression in the south, he was in Virginia, he's said it before Palin was nominated, and HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PALIN.

I'm sure that this man who was raised in Hawaii, went to Harvard, then moved to Chicago, has used this phrase many times in his life.:rolleyes:

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

Maybe he meant lipstick on a pug, not a pig. I mean pug/pitbull, what's the difference? Both are dogs, and she said it first!

[FlyGuyOU]

Maybe he meant lipstick on a pug, not a pig. I mean pug/pitbull, what's the difference? Both are dogs, and she said it first!

exactly, can't anyone take a joke these days?? like the other day, saw this girl get hit in the face w/ a ball. it was HILARIOUS!, she didn't seem to think so

[daihashi]

exactly, can't anyone take a joke these days?? like the other day, saw this girl get hit in the face w/ a ball. it was HILARIOUS!, she didn't seem to think so

I could care less about the comment Obama made but I can see why people are like "WTF".

Go home and ask your wife a g/f the difference between when she proudly calls herself a pitbull or when you call her a pig. I'm sure if people looked at it like that then it would be obvious why this is such a big deal.

Secondly if you heard the crowed they applauded on that comment.. how many southerners have you heard cheer and clap when someone says "you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig"? I'm willing to bet never or on some very rare occassion.

Point being is Obama is either a huge idiot or he's a total jerk.

1. Palins pitbull comment is very well known. Regardless if it's a saying in the south.. Obama knew she said that and had to have had some idea that people would take what he said and applied it to Palin. If he didn't think that it would get turned around this way then this guy has got to be dumb. This is politics, how can you not expect the obvious.

2. If he knew that Palin said this and said it in reference to her then he's simply a jerk.

Again, honestly I could care less about this particular statement but I think this is how the media and a good portion of American citizens view this.

[dragonrider]

I could care less about the comment Obama made but I can see why people are like "WTF".

Go home and ask your wife a g/f the difference between when she proudly calls herself a pitbull or when you call her a pig. I'm sure if people looked at it like that then it would be obvious why this is such a big deal.

Secondly if you heard the crowed they applauded on that comment.. how many southerners have you heard cheer and clap when someone says "you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig"? I'm willing to bet never or on some very rare occassion.

Point being is Obama is either a huge idiot or he's a total jerk.

1. Palins pitbull comment is very well known. Regardless if it's a saying in the south.. Obama knew she said that and had to have had some idea that people would take what he said and applied it to Palin. If he didn't think that it would get turned around this way then this guy has got to be dumb. This is politics, how can you not expect the obvious.

2. If he knew that Palin said this and said it in reference to her then he's simply a jerk.

Again, honestly I could care less about this particular statement but I think this is how the media and a good portion of American citizens view this.

I find it amusing in a very sad way that anyone cares at all about this. I think it's another case of media feeding frenzy over nothing, being whipped further by partisans looking to exploit the trivial.

You listed two possibilities. The third is that he meant nothing by it whatsoever other than the exact point he was making at the time, that McCain's policies are nothing more than the same old "pig" dressed up in maverick "lipstick."

Choose to take it however you like it, but I think the reaction is either oversensitive or cynical media manipulation.

1. Palin is so hurt by this supposed slight, that she is unfit to be even the leader of the local soccer mom association:


Palin: Mr. Putin, you must pull your troops out of Georgia IMMEDIATELY!

Putin: You are a pig with lipstick.

Palin: WaaaaaaaAAAAHHHHHHH!!! Did you HEAR what he CALLED me????? WaaaaaaaAAAAHHHHHHH!!! I'm taking my delegation and GOING HOME!
Grow up, "pitbull!" People are going to say a lot worse about her by the time this is done and she better toughen up.

2. The McCain campaign thinks they can spin this as some kind of sexist slam by Obama by playing up the false sensitivity and fake outrage, and maybe they can boost his negative ratings and strip off some female voters.


Which do you think? The pitbull is so sensitive this really hurt her feelings? Or she isn't really hurt by it, and the McCain campaign is pretending snesitivity for their own advantage?

It's a bunch of hype over nothing. Either that or Palin is too emotionally fragile to be VP in my opinion.

[daihashi]

You listed two possibilities. The third is that he meant nothing by it whatsoever other than the exact point he was making at the time, that McCain's policies are nothing more than the same old "pig" dressed up in maverick "lipstick."


I listed only two possibilities because he'd have to be an idiot to make any type of comment that was so similar to Palins that it would easily be twisted/misconstrued (ie: He's a moron for not forseeing this. I think person on this forum stoned out of their mind could've seen this spin coming).

Or that he knew it would get twisted but didn't care and said it just to attack.

Again, this one was so obvious I saw it coming right after I heard him say it.

I don't see Palin crying about this at all as you portray her in her fictional encounter with Putin; but I will agree with one thing you said. The media is blowing this out of proportion.

Honestly who cares if he calls her a pig, giraffe or skunk. She could be a Badger for all I care. :hippy:

[dragonrider]

Secondly if you heard the crowed they applauded on that comment.. how many southerners have you heard cheer and clap when someone says "you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig"? I'm willing to bet never or on some very rare occassion.


I've heard the phrase many times, as I mentioned before, but you are right, not too many people laugh at it. The only other time I heard anyone actually LAUGH was when McCain said it about Hillary Clinton:


Ha! funny the repubes grasping for straws on this, they just cant stand it when they get hit back........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHAOodl6ZfE
McDumbass smears Hillary as lipstick on a pig....

Clinton got over it OK, I'm sure Mrs. Palin will dry her (fake) tears soon and re-apply her lipstick and get right back in the game. You go girl!

[dragonrider]

I listed only two possibilities because he'd have to be an idiot to make any type of comment that was so similar to Palins that it would easily be twisted/misconstrued (ie: He's a moron for not forseeing this. I think person on this forum stoned out of their mind could've seen this spin coming).

Or that he knew it would get twisted but didn't care and said it just to attack.

Again, this one was so obvious I saw it coming right after I heard him say it.

I don't see Palin crying about this at all as you portray her in her fictional encounter with Putin; but I will agree with one thing you said. The media is blowing this out of proportion.

Honestly who cares if he calls her a pig, giraffe or skunk. She could be a Badger for all I care. :hippy:


These candidates have to talk their freakin' heads off all day long, every day, for a year straight. They are going to say something stupid or oblivious now and then. I say something stupid or oblivious at least once a day --- thank God I don't have a million cameras on me all the time and a whole "quick reaction team" there to spin everything I said in the worst possible light.

I've made a lot of jokes in this thread because I think it is totally ridiculous, but here is my God's honest non-partisan take on this thing:

I think it was a dumb thing to say considering Palin used the lipstick-on-a-animal image so recently in regards to herself. However, I do not think he intentionally used it in an attempt to belittle her that way. I don't think that is really how he works. I don't see him personally insulting people that way. It does not seem like his style at all. You may think that is partisan on my part, but that is really my take on him.

I also don't think Palin was personally insulted by it. I don't think she is really that emotionally delicate. I certainly hope not.

What I think is going on is that the media LOVES this kind of thing and they are doing everything they can to keep it alive. And I also think the McCain campaign loves having this negative light shone on Obama, and they are stirring the pot, and will continue to do so for as long as this will last.

This is not about one candidate really insulting another and that other candidate genuinely being hurt by it. This is about one campaign seizing on an apparent gaffe and making as much political mileage as they can on it, and about the media willingly subvertng the political process by devoting all their energy to fake hype.

It's about as legitimate as the McCain-doesn't-know-how-many-houses idiocy. Both campaigns know how to stir the pot of fake outrage, and the media LOVES it. It is a big waste of time though when they are real issues to settle.

[dragonrider]

Honestly... I'm not sure if people have noticed but I've been commenting less and less in the politics forum. This is the reason why, people aren't discussing politics anymore and are just falling prey to media drama made to boost ratings.

Focus on the issues? I hate it equally as much as when people try to pin Obama down on trivial matters also.

So I've been holding back more so than usual and anticipate by the time it comes for the actual election I probably won't be participating at all. This election like all others before it is finally starting to enter the mud slinging phase.

Everyone sit back and watch the children play. :hippy:

I am really starting to agree with you on this. This is getting stupid. I might need a break.

Tried to +rep you on this but couldn't.

[daihashi]

I am really starting to agree with you on this. This is getting stupid. I might need a break.

Tried to +rep you on this but couldn't.

no worries.. I know you're just as tired of the BS as I am. but it's to be expected since we're heading into the last 60 days.... this is about the time when everything gets stupid.

[Psycho4Bud]

I've made a lot of jokes in this thread because I think it is totally ridiculous, but here is my God's honest non-partisan take on this thing:

I think it was a dumb thing to say considering Palin used the lipstick-on-a-animal image so recently in regards to herself. However, I do not think he intentionally used it in an attempt to belittle her that way. I don't think that is really how he works. I don't see him personally insulting people that way. It does not seem like his style at all. You may think that is partisan on my part, but that is really my take on him.

Nice to see ya say that Obama actually did something assnine. The DNC with Obama was accused of sexism with Clinton and now this; NOT the thing to do during the general election when women voters that are a bit salty.

Seems damn funny to me that when the Obama camp accused Bill Clinton of racism that was alright but when Obama makes a slip of the tongue he didn't mean it.
-Rev. Wright was just his preacher.
-William Ayers was just an acquaintance.
-He just didn't have the time to vote on the MoveOn issue in Senate. I guess the Senate doesn't have the "present" option.

LOL....granted that this site is considered "left wing" but lets get real. Seems to me that if Obama was to shit in the middle of the road many members would be stating on what great environmentally safe fertilizer he created.

I still say that the only way Michelle Obama will ever sleep with the president of the U.S. is if one of our future presidents decides to have an affair.

Have a good one!:s4:

[8182KSKUSH]

no worries.. I know you're just as tired of the BS as I am. but it's to be expected since we're heading into the last 60 days.... this is about the time when everything gets stupid.



The rapid response team is trying too hard here, and sinking down to the liberal media's level on this attempt. It's a far cry from what has been said about McCain and Palin, but it doesn't make it right. Just the way politics is in these United States today though.:jointsmile:
I think you and Dragon have nailed it, it's a non issue.
And stupid.
On that note:D
Isn't it against Buycrack Osama's religion to actually "put" lipstick on a pig? I mean touching the pig and all. I mean, you know, cause he's a muslim?:D
Before anyone gets their pink panties in a bunch, I AM FUCKING KIDDING!:D
(I am sure it would take more than that for the muslim clerics to kick him out of the Al Queda)
:S3::S2::S2::S2::S3:
:lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5:

[8182KSKUSH]

LOL....granted that this site is considered "left wing" but lets get real. Seems to me that if Obama was to shit in the middle of the road many members would be stating on what great environmentally safe fertilizer he created.
Have a good one!:s4:
I get that exact feeling everyday!:thumbsup:
Not that it would be a good fertilizer, but that many here would believe it was.:D
You know what I mean.:jointsmile:

[RobPA]

Honestly... I'm not sure if people have noticed but I've been commenting less and less in the politics forum. This is the reason why, people aren't discussing politics anymore and are just falling prey to media drama made to boost ratings.

Focus on the issues? I hate it equally as much as when people try to pin Obama down on trivial matters also.

So I've been holding back more so than usual and anticipate by the time it comes for the actual election I probably won't be participating at all. This election like all others before it is finally starting to enter the mud slinging phase.

Everyone sit back and watch the children play. :hippy:


Agree 100%. I cant even reply to some of these stupid statements that are made lately.

[flyingimam]

Agree 100%. I cant even reply to some of these stupid statements that are made lately.

I dont even read most posts anymore lol, i got active for a while, then i figured i should have stuck by my sigi:rastasmoke: keep my mouth shut, just watch and enjoy the mudslingers and silently laugh a little inside me at the poor crowd who is being played by politics and the media!


Here guys...you need it:joint1:
whiskeytango
good call!
:S2: :S2:

[dragonrider]

Seems to me that if Obama was to shit in the middle of the road many members would be stating on what great environmentally safe fertilizer he created.


I get that exact feeling everyday!:thumbsup:
Not that it would be a good fertilizer, but that many here would believe it was.:D

Speaking as a "liberal," and even more importantly, as an expert on compost and organic fertilizers, I have to point out that normal human "manure" can be an excellent fertilzer provided it is composted with plenty of carbon-rich bulking agent and at sufficiently high temperature. Maybe avoid using it on the carrots or other food crops.

However, politician poop is to be avoided no matter what party pooped it out....

[Reefer Rogue]

Anyone who implies that Obama is calling Palin a pig is an idiot and can't understand the analagy. More scaremongering from the right wing, claims that he is sexist is absurd and a blatent lie, those are smear tactics. Mchypocrit said the same thing, he should be quiet. So because he's from hawaii and moved to chicago he can't say a phrase? I think freedom of speech guarentees him that right, the exact right Mccain has when he said it, if obama is sexist then so is Mccain, don't dish it out if you can't take it. This all stems from Palins stupid comparison when she panders to her hockey mom demographic, implying how strong they are by calling them pitbulls. Pitbulls don't cry like this. Obama is right this is the GOP talking about a non issue, taking him out of context for their own advantage, to gain votes and it's sickening. Enough is enough, they need to focus on the real issues, not this trivial bullshit about lipstick, it's absolutely farcical. They say obama is ready to smear, well so are you mccain, a lot worse and even more blatent.

[Psycho4Bud]

More scaremongering from the right wing, claims that he is sexist is absurd and a blatent lie, those are smear tactics.

Didn't know that Bill, Hillary and 30% of Clintons voters were "right wing". I'll bet that they all vote McCain but still.

Have a good one!:s4:

[Delta9 UK]

Wow this would be hilarious if it wasn't so desperate. Actually, it is hilarious...

Obama said:
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

Is Palin a Fish too? Which is it, Pig or Fish! lulz

Come on! This is so lame, these idiots should focus on talking to the public about policies and stop pissing in the wind.

[Rusty Trichome]

You just might want to consider how it reflects on you, and whether anyone will take your arguments seriously or not. You have valid opinions, but when people see the name-calling, they just tune out everything.

Read my lipstick...Image is not why I post, and definatelly not why I follow the paths I take. Whether it's politics, or growing cannabis, or societies moral terpitude...I call 'em like I see them. If I'm the only one that feels this way...oh well. No skin off my teeth.

Being a Harvard and Columbia grad, the man is definatelly smart enough to know the associations he was hinting at with the lipstick crack. If you think he was too dense to realize that the association would be made...then he is a moron not worthy of the to for which he is applying for. Either way...he's a loser.

It was a another childish cheap-shot unworthy of our next president.

You can put a cross on a muslim...but he's still a muslim. (but of course I'm not talking about Osama Bin Barack)

[Rusty Trichome]

You can also watch CNN or Fox and read news headlines on the internet, it doesn't make you patriotic or intelligent.

True...But at least those watching Fox news are armed with the facts. :jointsmile:

[dragonrider]

I've been watching the O'Reilly factor for the Obama interviews, and I have to say I have a lot more respect for him now than I did in the past. He's an opinionated bloviator for sure, but no more so than most of the people I hang out with here on this forum, maybe myself included. And he does seem to have a sense of fairness about some things that cuts through some of the crap.

Anyway, before the Obama segment #4 last night, he talked about this idiotic lipstick on a pig BS. He said he didn't think for a minute that Obama intentionally meant any kind of insult by the remark. He said he did not think that was Obama's style. And he said that Obama is smart enough to know that it obviously would have hurt him to make such a statement --- as it obviously has hurt him. So it was unintentional, but he should have known better than to even use the word lipstick. Then he said the media has picked this up and is blowing it out of proportion for their own purposes because they love controversy. He agreed with Obama that this kind of thing is "catnip for the media." In the end he said that if the McCain campaign continued to push this thing for much longer, it was going to have blowback and hurt them, because people see through this kind of BS pretty quickly and they get sick of it fast. Once they get sick of the cynicism, they blame the people pushing it along.

I watched the whole 24-hour news media run around in circles all freakin' day long yesterday chasing this non-issue, and it was freakin' Bill O'Reilly who had the most intelligent thing to say on it all day. What kind of alternative universe have I stepped into? There must be a rip in the space-time fabric.

[BigWeed]

Honestly... I'm not sure if people have noticed but I've been commenting less and less in the politics forum. This is the reason why, people aren't discussing politics anymore and are just falling prey to media drama made to boost ratings.

Focus on the issues? I hate it equally as much as when people try to pin Obama down on trivial matters also.

So I've been holding back more so than usual and anticipate by the time it comes for the actual election I probably won't be participating at all. This election like all others before it is finally starting to enter the mud slinging phase.

Everyone sit back and watch the children play. :hippy:

I hear ya I come in hear to get a laugh we all know who we are voting for. All I know is who ever is the president me and my wife already started making our plans for the future. Its just funny to come in here and read all this I cant get enough.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp: