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allrollsin21
09-09-2008, 05:57 AM
I am hoping that someone will notate book by book, and explain why these books should not be read.

Sarah Palins List of Banned Books

More things to learn about Sarah Palin

For those of you who think that all of the opposition to Sarah Palin is from "leftwing" nuts; the following is a list of books that she tried to
get banned when she was mayor of Wasilla. I am not sure that Mark Twain, William Shakespeare, Maya Angelou and Geoffrey Chaucer would be considered dangerous to children. Judy Blume give me a break. Harry Potter, who is kidding who. I also fail to see how Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff should be banned.

This information is taken from the official minutes of the Wasilla Library Board. When the librarian refused Palin tried to get her fired as she did with the Safety Director of the State who refused to fire a trooper who was getting a vicious divorce from her sister

She also told her Assembly of God Church in June 2008 that it is "God's Will" that the federal government contribute to the expansion of the Alaska pipeline. (Must have been talking to George Bush). She sounds like one of those lawyers Bush put into the justice department.

This is the list of books Palin tried to have banned. As many of you will notice it is a hit parade for book burners.

A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy's Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to Go by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It's Okay if You Don't Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophane
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
My Friend Flicka by Mary O'Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women's Health Collective
Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Silas Marner by George Eliot
Slaughterhouse- Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Bastard by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil's Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won't by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster
Editorial Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween
Symbols by Edna Barth



Tony Fransetta
Florida Alliance for Retired Americans

flyingimam
09-09-2008, 06:14 AM
mhmmmm, u got any source we can refer to?

allrollsin21
09-09-2008, 06:34 AM
snopes.com: Books Banned by Sarah Palin (http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp)

I will do a better background check before posting anymore lies. My apologies. I am VERY pleased i was incorrect. I was scared!

andruejaysin
09-09-2008, 06:59 AM
Not on the list-
Mein Kamf (adolf hitler)
Home Workshop Explosives (uncle fester)
and quite a few others that one could reasonably argue shouldn't be in a library.

andruejaysin
09-09-2008, 07:10 AM
And why ban scary stories 1 and 3 but not 2? Perhaps her math skills are a litttle lacking.

8182KSKUSH
09-09-2008, 07:25 AM
And why ban scary stories 1 and 3 but not 2? Perhaps her math skills are a litttle lacking.

Maybe you missed it?
This is a false rumor. Right at the top of the page on the link, it says, status, "False", then goes into detail further down.
Hence several of the books on the list, were not even published at the time in question, 1996, i.e. the Harry Potter Books.:)

I am not directing this at you at all allrollsin, don't take this personally please. I realize you just made a mistake, no big deal.
You aren't the first person to make mention of this.
It's just a fine example of how the left in America is reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaching for anything to discredit Palin, or paint her as the next anti-christ.
Things like this should be a clear indicator as to how threatening this woman is to the left. They are trying to do the same old drive by character assassination that they tried to do to Clarence Thomas. The issue is that in both cases, you have a minority of society that completely flies in the face of everything that the liberal left has been telling everyone to believe for years. So there only option is to try to demonize and discredit these people so that they can maintain there dogma. No doubt that even though most people will see through this, lots of people will not realize this, and will believe what they are told to believe, (I am thinking that these are the same folks you see fainting at the sight of Obama, and holding their "change" signs upside down while jumping up and down in the air like school girls.
I think it is great that you did post this, and the facts behind it were brought to light! In a weird way you actually did a service to Palin.
Thank you, my wife appreciates it!
She'll put you on the preferred list, so that when the New World Order emerges in 2010, you won't have to go work in the mines!:D

8182KSKUSH
09-09-2008, 07:27 AM
snopes.com: Books Banned by Sarah Palin (http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp)

I will do a better background check before posting anymore lies. My apologies. I am VERY pleased i was incorrect. I was scared!


Mega dittos to you for being forth coming! Most would just never come back to the thread! We all make mistakes!:jointsmile:
No doubt you will still get 20 or so posts that don't notice that it is not true and will still comment on it as if it were!
True Believers!:D

Mississippi Steve
09-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Mega dittos to you for being forth coming! Most would just never come back to the thread! We all make mistakes!:jointsmile:
No doubt you will still get 20 or so posts that don't notice that it is not true and will still comment on it as if it were!
True Believers!:D

MAny of those books are required reading... or used to be when I was in school. A lot of them still are. besides... to even think about banning books would be condeming freedom of speach. That ain't gonna happen.

Rusty Trichome
09-09-2008, 01:33 PM
This just in...

...Sarah Palin's revised banned book list to include everything ever written by Oprah, or endorsed by the Oprah Book Club, and anything available in the Trinity United Church of Allah's bookstore.
Latest books banned: "An Inconvienent Audacity" and "Bigger Government: Mandating Carbon Credits and Tire Pressures thru Unconstitutional Taxes" by Barack Hussein O'gore.

TurnyBright
09-09-2008, 01:56 PM
You guys don't mean to say that these books shouldn't be banned? We can't have our children reading smut! HAVE YOU EVER READ LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD?

delusionsofNORMALity
09-09-2008, 02:04 PM
It's just a fine example of how the left in America is reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaching for anything to discredit Palin, or paint her as the next anti-christ.the very fact that she would have any books banned is a rather sad commentary on the state of american conservatism and politics in general. that conservatives must swing so far toward totalitarianism to reach their base is just another example of the extremism that so pervades our government and culture. just as the left would have us enslaved to the intrusive clutches of big government socialism, the right wishes to lock up our minds by restricting our access to radical thought and alternate philosophies. there seems to be no place left for moderation and the gentle progression that is natural to a healthy society. everyone is either trying to force drastic immediate change or attempting to stall the evolution of our culture completely.

allrollsin21
09-09-2008, 04:10 PM
Well i am back after my shaming...thanks for taking it relatively easy on me. No mine work for me? Sweet.

Really though i attempted to edit the post but do not know how. I think Kush is right that some people will read the first post and then just ASSUME ITS TRUE. I think any smears on either side is a disservice to our country, and should be corrected. Tell me how and i will make the correction on the original post.

Lastly i think its a bit silly to say that only the left is creating smears against the right. This is an obvious two way street.
Sarah Palin has a future in politics. She could very well fight her way to the top, while having conversations about potentially banning books from our libraries. Its just not gonna happen this November...

Psycho4Bud
09-09-2008, 04:19 PM
(Political Animal) PALIN'S BOOK-BANNING EFFORTS.... There's been a list making the rounds lately, showing books that Sarah Palin allegedly tried to ban from Wasilla's public library during her mayoral tenure. The list isn't true, and in some instances, doesn't even make sense (some the books hadn't even been published in 1996, when the incident is alleged to have occurred).

The McCain campaign is apparently aware of the rumor, and is pushing back.


The McCain-Palin team is continuing its pushback campaign against stories about VP nominee Sarah Palin that have taken on a life of their own on the Internet.On Monday, they sent reporters a memo in response to reports that the Wasilla, Alaska resident had tried to ban a lengthy list of books when she was mayor of that town.

"This is categorically false. The fact is that as Mayor, Palin never asked anyone to ban a book and not one book was ever banned, period," McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said, directing reporters to campaign research "debunking this smear."




While the purported list is bogus, we do know that something happened with regards to Palin and at least a question about book banning.

Time reported last week, for example, that Palin asked the Wasilla librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, about the process for banning books. Baker was reportedly "aghast" at the question. Soon after taking office, Palin, according to a New York Times report, fired Baker, and news reports from the time indicate that Palin thought Baker hadn't done enough to give her "full support" to the mayor.

Palin reversed course on Baker's dismissal after a local outcry, and later said the discussions about banning books were "rhetorical."

I can understand why the McCain campaign is pushing back against a bogus list that's making the rounds. Deceptive claims are deceptive claims, no matter who the target is. But as long as McCain aides are talking about this issue, maybe they can answer a couple of additional questions, such as, "Why did Palin try to fire the librarian in the first place?" Or how about, "Why did Palin broach the subject of book-banning if she had no intention of trying to ban books?"
Palin's Book-banning Efforts, By Steve Benen - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/09/politics/animal/main4430259.shtml)

Just clearing up the matter.

Have a good one!:s4:

killerweed420
09-09-2008, 04:44 PM
Does seem to be some truth to the rumour. Anyone that ever would consider banning any books is obviously not playing with a full deck. A communist in christian clothing?

Psycho4Bud
09-09-2008, 04:51 PM
Does seem to be some truth to the rumour. Anyone that ever would consider banning any books is obviously not playing with a full deck. A communist in christian clothing?

A new book that condones adult-child sex is part of a wider effort by some academics to rehabilitate the revolutionary Kinsey Reports on sexuality amid a climate of growing concern about abuse, according to a leading researcher.
'Nothing new' in book condoning child sex (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27104)

I have to disagree with ya on that one....some books have NO PLACE on the shelf!

Have a good one!:s4:

FlyGuyOU
09-09-2008, 05:04 PM
if this bogus list was made into a book would IT get banned???

DaBudhaStank
09-09-2008, 06:05 PM
While I agree this is a bogus rumor, I found P4B's comments to be the most interesting. I'm curious as to whether or not she would have had any intentions of banning certain books (Harry Potter and the like imo, because of her religious beliefs), because that's a bit disturbing to me. Also, the fact that she fired the librarian for not giving her "full support" is much more disturbing to me. It's also curious that Palin's brother was in a brutal divorce with said librarian (or someone near that, can't remember exactly). It kinda makes me wonder if she is quick to anger/judgement. Also, I was watching the news late last night (unfortunately, the 24 hour news is the ONLY thing on at 4 AM) and the Republican campaign spokesman said he was concerned and dissapointed that the media wasn't more defferential to Palin. That was troubling quite a bit. I'm not defferential to anyone except the po-lice, because they'll kick your ass if your not. The media isn't going to stay out of politicians lives in a presidential election.







I am also really high.

khronik
09-09-2008, 08:45 PM
You aren't the first person to make mention of this.
It's just a fine example of how the left in America is reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaching for anything to discredit Palin, or paint her as the next anti-christ.
Things like this should be a clear indicator as to how threatening this woman is to the left. They are trying to do the same old drive by character assassination that they tried to do to Clarence Thomas. The issue is that in both cases, you have a minority of society that completely flies in the face of everything that the liberal left has been telling everyone to believe for years. So there only option is to try to demonize and discredit these people so that they can maintain there dogma. No doubt that even though most people will see through this, lots of people will not realize this, and will believe what they are told to believe, (I am thinking that these are the same folks you see fainting at the sight of Obama, and holding their "change" signs upside down while jumping up and down in the air like school girls.
I think it is great that you did post this, and the facts behind it were brought to light! In a weird way you actually did a service to Palin.
Thank you, my wife appreciates it!
She'll put you on the preferred list, so that when the New World Order emerges in 2010, you won't have to go work in the mines!:D
Wow! Sarah Palin has a grand total of four false stories discredited on snopes. John McCain has a total of three. Barack Obama has a total of twenty-six. Who're the ones doing the character assassination again? ;)

snopes.com: Politics (Sarah Palin) (http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/palin.asp)
snopes.com: Politics (John McCain) (http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/mccain.asp)
snopes.com: Politics (Barack Obama) (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp)

dragonrider
09-09-2008, 08:48 PM
I'm glad to hear the list is bogus.

But I am still disturbed by the idea that a mayor would fire a librarian for not "being supportive" of her. I think the post of librarian ought to be considered non-political, difinitely non-partisan.

It's only a rumor that the librarian was fired for not being open to the idea of banning certain books from the library, but I believe it. There is a record of Palin asking the librarian about the procedure for banning books from the library and the librarian resisting even talking about banning any books from its collection. My feeling is that's what Palin felt was not "being supportive" --- refusing to consider banning books. What else could it be? Any alternative theories for why Palin might have fired the librarian for not "being supportive" of Palin? What is the librarian supposed to do to "be supportive"? Work on Palin's re-electin campaign? How supportive or non-supportive can a librarian even be esxpected to be? The idea is ridiculous.

I think the reason conservatives are so disdainful of culture is that they produce so little of it themselves. Conservatives have no cultural offereings to "compete" (if that is even the right word) with any of the cultural offerings of the rest of the spectrum from modrate to liberal. That's why they seek to ban books, plays, movies, songs, etc. They have nothing to offer to the culture in their so-called "culture war," so they seek to fight that war politically by banning the opposition's contribution to culture. It'll never work. You can't fight culture with politics. Social conservatives should try offering someting to the culture from their own point of view rather that try to fight this "culture war" politically.

About this:


You guys don't mean to say that these books shouldn't be banned? We can't have our children reading smut! HAVE YOU EVER READ LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD?

You're absolutely right about this! Maybe the story should not be banned outright, but it needs to be moved to the adult section and off limits to kids! This story is all about sex! The so called "little red riding hood" is a obvious metaphor for the clitoral hood! The "big bad wolf" is just a horny guy who wants to ride that little red hood --- ride it al the way to China! He stalks her alll the way through the woods and is waiting to rape her at grandama's house! And the twisted part is that she is kind of into it --- my, what a big d**k you have!

That is one f**ked up fairy tale.

The Figment
09-09-2008, 09:08 PM
You're absolutely right about this! Maybe the story should not be banned outright, but it needs to be moved to the adult section and off limits to kids! This story is all about sex! The so called "little red riding hood" is a obvious metaphor for the clitoral hood! The "big bad wolf" is just a horny guy who wants to ride that little red hood --- ride it al the way to China! He stalks her alll the way through the woods and is waiting to rape her at grandama's house! And the twisted part is that she is kind of into it --- my, what a big d**k you have!

That is one f**ked up fairy tale.

And the next thing yer gonna say is that "Winnie The Pooh" books should be banned (Or in this case moved to the "Adult" Section) because the storyline promotes Beastility......Dude you need Psychiatric Help if you interpret "Little Red Riding Hood" in this manner,!!
Are you one of those that belive that the "Smurfs" are Communist Propagnda Thrust on your kids Too?

MIDNIGHTspecial
09-09-2008, 09:23 PM
And the next thing yer gonna say is that "Winnie The Pooh" books should be banned (Or in this case moved to the "Adult" Section) because the storyline promotes Beastility......Dude you need Psychiatric Help if you interpret "Little Red Riding Hood" in this manner,!!
Are you one of those that belive that the "Smurfs" are Communist Propagnda Thrust on your kids Too?

uh, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he's just kidding (did you read any of the rest of the post?).

Breukelen advocaat
09-09-2008, 09:33 PM
Might as well ban the Bible, since it's filled with stories of sex, incest, prostitution, masturbation, whores, rape, adultery and murder, forbidden intimacies with animals, homosexuality, orgies, King David the flasher, abortion, phallic worship, sex drugs, venerial disease, indecent exposure, drunkenness, a fertility contest, self-castration, and other colorful topics.

dragonrider
09-09-2008, 09:39 PM
And the next thing yer gonna say is that "Winnie The Pooh" books should be banned (Or in this case moved to the "Adult" Section) because the storyline promotes Beastility......Dude you need Psychiatric Help if you interpret "Little Red Riding Hood" in this manner,!!
Are you one of those that belive that the "Smurfs" are Communist Propagnda Thrust on your kids Too?


uh, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he's just kidding (did you read any of the rest of the post?).

Hahahahahaha!

Yes, Figment, you missed the sarcasm that Midnight picked up on. I was just joking about banning poor Little Red Riding Hood or moving it to the adult section. I am not for banning any books at all. I do not condone any form of censorship. I think that if a person or group disgrees with the ideas of a book or other form of art, they should make thier own argument and let people decide for themselves, but don't try to ban the idea.

However, even though I was joking about banning Little Red Riding Hood, I wasn't completely joking about the metaphor of the story. I was stretching it a bit with the clitoral hood imagery (that was a joke), but I do think the story is a cautionary tale about little girls being wary of men who are out to get them. The underlying message is about sex, but it is so buried that the story is appropriate for kids. In fact, it's valuable becasue kids get the idea of being wary of strangers without having to expalin that someone might want to rape them --- leave it at the idea the "wolf" might want to "eat" them, without getting into the real life nightmares that kids might really face at the hands of a stranger.

eg420ne
09-09-2008, 09:50 PM
Might as well ban the Bible, since it's filled with stories of sex, incest, prostitution, masturbation, whores, rape, adultery and murder, forbidden intimacies with animals, homosexuality, orgies, King David the flasher, abortion, phallic worship, sex drugs, venerial disease, indecent exposure, drunkenness, a fertility contest, self-castration, and other colorful topics.
And dont forget WARS killing women and children for GoD

veggii
09-09-2008, 10:35 PM
sounds to me , if she asked you something and didn't like your answer "your fired" if she asked you todo something and even if its wrong and you didn't do it "your fired" she really has to stop watching Donald Trump "your fired"
seems she also clearly abuses her position to get her way,and to further her family up the ranks in society I believe the McCain camp made a grave mistake with her. whats she gonna do him if he doesn't do as she says, she has shown she will get her way no matter what! not the kind of person we need in office. screw this I'm voting for Bush again!

The Figment
09-09-2008, 10:48 PM
ok....now I feel really stupid.lol!!

dragonrider
09-09-2008, 11:10 PM
ok....now I feel really stupid.lol!!

Ha ha! No worries, man! My sarcasm has gotten me in trouble before because it doesn't always come across the way I mean it. You're not the first one to think I meant the opposite of what I wanted to say when I was joking around.

dragonrider
09-09-2008, 11:13 PM
Hey everyone! The InfoLinks popup just offered me a way to shop and compare prices on Banned Books! So even if Palin gets them yanked from the library, you can still get a great deal on them online through InfoLinks!

The Figment
09-10-2008, 12:16 AM
lol,Ihave the same problem.....text just does'nt come across a well as the spoken word!