Revanche's 2nd Journal!

[Revanche21]

Hey guys I'm back this time my medication is
(Blueberry x Bubblegum) x (K2 x Vietnamese) obtained from a fellow patient (I didn't ask where they got it

I'm going to do a 24/0 for a week or two (probably one)

and try to aim for a very very fast harvest, with no stress on yield

Right now it there are 4 seeds in 4 red cups with black nets

it is under a 3000k 65 watt Fluoro

It is inside a computer case hidden under a bunch of dirty clothes :P

[Revanche21]

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/162125-revanches-diy-2-plant-dwc.html

^^^^^ I will have 2 additional home-made DWC's check out the post in my hydroponics section

[Revanche21]

Due to the 35 watt amp being too loud for the room mate, Im down to 4 seedlings under 2x65 watt fluoros at 12/12 right from seed no 24/0 at all let's see how it turns out

[Puffzter]

Looking forward to see them grow up man.

Good luck.

Puffzter

[Revanche21]

Looking forward to see them grow up man.

Good luck.

Puffzter

my prediction is bonsai trees :D

[Revanche21]

the one that isn't growing is having trouble rooting itself so I added another seed in there just in case

[Revanche21]

The water in the DWC has an eyeballed amount of Liquid Karma (maybe 3 drops or so) I just added (1-2 mini pours) of Botanicare Grow as well.

The one that was withering ended up drying up and died.

I added two more seeds to offset the lack of a plant in one spot but I am starting to think those two are both duds as its been a week or two since I put them in there, I might just leave that spot open as Yield amount isn't my top priority, just mainly for fun and the joy of watching my baby grow :D

[Revanche21]

Busted out the 600 Watt HPS (Bulb has been used thru one grow before)
here are some udated pics, sorry forgot to change the filter so its all a little too orange next pics I take will be better

[hahaitsdoogle]

i thought the HPS was for flowering, and if used during veg will cause stretching but maybe im just a retard

[stinkyattic]

True that the HPS will induce stretch.
I'm more concerned with the flannel-shirt fire starter... yikes. You gotta think safety. And fashion. Plaid flannel is so... Canadian! And flammable!

[Revanche21]

i thought the HPS was for flowering, and if used during veg will cause stretching but maybe im just a retard

im doing a 12/12 from seed so it doesnt matter

I used an HPS for my previous grow and I encountered no stretching whatsoever Please refer to previous journal

[Revanche21]

True that the HPS will induce stretch.
I'm more concerned with the flannel-shirt fire starter... yikes. You gotta think safety. And fashion. Plaid flannel is so... Canadian! And flammable!

my last one didnt :) (stretch)

It's 100% cotton and I don't see how it could catch on fire?

theres another shirt on the otherside of that too, 100% cotton as well

I don't know how it would catch on fire?

Isn't flannel the kind for outdoors? this feels like silk

[InspectahEX]

I will definately be following this grow, i grow with a similar setup, my babies are little younger then yours, i have them under cfls, i think I will switch to 12/12 soon also

[Revanche21]

I will definately be following this grow, i grow with a similar setup, my babies are little younger then yours, i have them under cfls, i think I will switch to 12/12 soon also

welcome aboard!

Yea I meant to do 1-2 weeks of 24/0 but due to some problems I ended up having to do 12/12 directly from seed

Hopefully it turns out well

[stinkyattic]

Cotton is flammable. Very. Unless you are in the habit of wearing asbestos shirts, never use your shirt as a light hood.
Flannel is the name for a class of fabrics that are carded after weaving to make them softer. Most flannels are cotton or cotton blends, although wool (also flammable) is sometimes used. Especially in the Great White North Eh.

[Revanche21]

its more of a light hood to block light coming from the side
is it really that bad?

My entire grow on my first grow, no one warned me and said nothing?

anyway HPS's are amazing they make growth skyrocket

[Revanche21]

Cotton is flammable. Very. Unless you are in the habit of wearing asbestos shirts, never use your shirt as a light hood.
Flannel is the name for a class of fabrics that are carded after weaving to make them softer. Most flannels are cotton or cotton blends, although wool (also flammable) is sometimes used. Especially in the Great White North Eh.

I think flannel refers to the way it is woven loosely?
not the plaid design

in that case, its not flannel eh?

[Revanche21]

looks like 2/3 are showing Female Sex

I always heard that males tend to grow faster but this grow, and my last one, the biggest ones turned out female

[hydrocannabis]

looking good homes.:thumbsup:

[Revanche21]

looking good homes.:thumbsup:

Thanks Hydro!

good to get a positive reinforcement from someone like you!

Anyway I just noticed some other things (too much tlc? :) )

Are these ridges of any concern to me?
also, the entire plant seems to be a bit droopy but the water level is pretty low and there is high amounts of bubbles in the DWC

The first photo is of the leaf near the top with ridges more prominent and the second is a lower leaf that seems to be normal

(PS: I just added another eyeballed amount of Pro Grow and a dash of Liquid Karma)

[Revanche21]

As I lit up for the day, I realized the problem(potential) could have been from the Superthrive and my hubris.

My possibly poor judgment to eyeball the amounts and for the plants has made me decide to flush everything.

Ah-ha! I haven't flushed since I began anyways. What a good time, except for the loss of some nutes that I had used days ago.(and earlier today)

This time I used a Tbspn to put in the correct amount of nutrients into my DWC I added very conservatively and tried to measure 5ml less than what was recommended for seedlings/cuttlings.

Hopefully things will look up in the next few days!
:rastasmoke:

[InspectahEX]

hey i love your grow, the plants are looking good.:thumbsup:

how old are they? when did u start flowering? are going to top fim or lst? let me know more about your process

[Revanche21]

hey i love your grow, the plants are looking good.:thumbsup:

how old are they? when did u start flowering? are going to top fim or lst? let me know more about your process

the seeds were set in the cubes and wet on the first post (I forget the date off the top of my head)

I have never vegg'd straight 12/12 cycle from seed

no FIM/LST, these will be small and short already

umm using standard City water from the faucet
Using Botanicare brand of veg and liquid karma
600 Watt HPS with no enclosed setting in an apartment with fans just help circulating the closet
3rd grow ever, 1st grow was done using soil and yielded 2 grams since I didnt know what I was doing lol so idk if that counts really
What else you want to know


Here's some update photos: Still don't know what the deepend ridges are anyone help?

[aerowatch]

can u point out what the tell tale is between male/female on you plants and maybe draw something that shors the difference my plants are a little younger i am using aerogarden i started 24/0 for 10 days now im on 16/8 when should i swithch to 12/12 since i dont have more than 32 inches of clearance
please help this is my first time and im lost

[aerowatch]

are you pointing out male or female here

[Revanche21]

Female

look in my sig for my first journal, I have more pictures of pointing out females males have balls that grow upward sorta

I have started mine with 12/12 since the beginning you can switch to 12/12 whenever you want to

[Revanche21]

Daily update

The Replacement of the DWC solution seemed to not slow or help the problem

So, I replaced 4 liters of solution with 4 liters of water

and this morning I added 2 more liters of water to further dilute it

the pH is at 5.5-5.7

ps. 99 cent store odor killers work well :)

[stinkyattic]

Wait- is it the ruffling you are worried about? That's totally strain-specific. My BOG BlueMoonRocks do it. Here's a pic:
Okay crap here isn't a pic. But there's one in my donkey dick log somewhere that shows it. Search 'characteristic ruffling' in the site search function and you will get it.

[Revanche21]

Wait- is it the ruffling you are worried about? That's totally strain-specific. My BOG BlueMoonRocks do it. Here's a pic:
Okay crap here isn't a pic. But there's one in my donkey dick log somewhere that shows it. Search 'characteristic ruffling' in the site search function and you will get it.

idk if its a problem but growth sped up like 200% when i put in the HPS and then the top leaves started getting the deep ridges and there was no growth from yesterday to today, maybe a little but not really noticeable

I'll look it up now

[stinkyattic]

Your plants are the very picture of health.

[Revanche21]

Your plants are the very picture of health.

are you sure?

in my earlier posts i show a difference between a bottom leaf and the one I think is affected

well, if you say so!

[Revanche21]

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/163842-deepened-ridges-leaves.html

Have some cross posting going on here

dunno if thats ok

[weedjunky]

nice little grow you got there. good luck with the tlc

[Revanche21]

Sorry about the overkill in daily-photo-updates haha :)

[Revanche21]

Ok I'm 99% sure the last one is male

also getting another problem

some spotting happening that begins as yellowing then turns brown?

only see it in a couple spots though on the bottom leaves

pH is 5.9-6.1

[InspectahEX]

I have deepened ridges too on some leaves. I think it has something to do with DWC systems

[InspectahEX]

I got spots like that too on a couple lower leaves, maybe its the humidity or something with the nutes

[Revanche21]

Well my paranoia has made me do a full clean out of the DWC system

after I adujusted the pH the ridges seem to have gone away

the yellowing may be due to a form of deficiency or over nutrient-ing

so I used real tsp's instead of shot glasses converted to ml

:stoned:

oh yea and bye bye male plant :(

[Revanche21]

I thought it would be interesting to show the progression of the male plant in stages of leaves

1st pic is a bad pic but you can see the male pre-ball
2nd pic lowest set of leaves (not the single) this is where the yellow spotting is ocurring
3rd pic shows the crumpling due to pH being off? more prominent on the right side
4th pic getting healthier but a lil pale
5th pic same as four a little pale?

:hippy:

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

Yo check my Plant out. it has crazy deep ridges and fucked up leaves curling.

http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/163664-first-cfl-grow-help-appreciated-pics-included-2.html#post1930578

[SnSstealth]

Plants look great man. The ridges is a trait of blueberry. Lots of Blue strains do it. Leaf curling is another common blueberry trait, even showed on a few of my smashberrys. The browning looks like lockout to me...Ph a lil high?
whiskeytango

[SnSstealth]

I have deepened ridges too on some leaves. I think it has something to do with DWC systems
I dont really see how the growing method could have anything to do with shaping of leaves.
whiskeytango

[Revanche21]

in my Jorge Cervantes book it says that curling is usually due to pH problems

maybe some curl easier to pH fluctuations? (genetically)

[InspectahEX]

I dont really see how the growing method could have anything to do with shaping of leaves.
whiskeytango


In a DWC system I would think it's obvious that youre gonna have more PH fluctuations, and everyone I see growing aeroponics usually has those ridges.

[Revanche21]

OK so after getting back in last night my DWC was pretty damn low on water

and I had a 2 liter filled with solution that I had pulled out with and replaced with plain water 4 days ago, I put that back into the DWC along with another 2 liter with one droplet of superthrive and some hydroguard as the water was starting to smell a little funky

anyways heres some pictures

they sure grew a lot in 4 days!

There is minor browning going on only on maybe 2-3 leave finger tips

anyone have any idea what that is from?

[Revanche21]

added another droplet of Super Thrive and 10ml of Calmag to 2L and added it to the DWC and a 2L of plain water

I will flush the system soon and start with half and half Bloom/Veg nutes

or should I just start bloom nutes?

Probably raise the light just a little bit, its about 12 inches from the light now

[Revanche21]

I'd like to point out that one plant seems to be doing some stretching while the other is short and bushy (from the same seed batch)

I can't conclude whether it's genetic or what

[Revanche21]

after looking at the top-down view, I noticed it seemed a little yellower than normal so I raised the light in case it was too close and decided to check on the pH which was below 5.5 so I added some pH Up and 15ml of Pro Grow

[SnSstealth]

Lookin good revanche! Good call on the light...Is that burn spot the only one on that plant?
whiskeytango

[Revanche21]

Lookin good revanche! Good call on the light...Is that burn spot the only one on that plant?
whiskeytango

I don't think its a burn spot as its on the lower leaf

There are probably 2 or 3 other leaf fingers that have the similar 'brown mark'


ps: after reading the simple noobs guide to growin

I'm a very hazzardous grower ain't I? lol

electrical stuff all over the floor next to the DWC lol

[Revanche21]

Ok I think im a little too post happy but I'm just so excited about my babies

I checked inside the DWC system to see the roots and these are the healthiest roots I've ever seen!

Adding an extra air pump helped A LOT!

Then I switched the positions of the plants to change up the lighting for them as the one in the corner seems to be getting less light?

[trickdaddy450]

Hey i checked out your last grow log and thought it was sweet so i just wanted to let you know i'll be following this one as well! Plants are looking sweet! Best of luck!

[Revanche21]

Hey i checked out your last grow log and thought it was sweet so i just wanted to let you know i'll be following this one as well! Plants are looking sweet! Best of luck!

sweet! thx! I love it when ppl subscribe :)

[Help_Needed]

Plants are looking good - nice and green and healthy.

If you're worried about light, you can trim off some of the larger fan leaves to allow more light penetration. Just do it sparingly and only as much as you absolutely need to. Those fan leaves make food for your plant, and if you rip too many off, your plant will get hungry.

[Revanche21]

Plants are looking good - nice and green and healthy.

If you're worried about light, you can trim off some of the larger fan leaves to allow more light penetration. Just do it sparingly and only as much as you absolutely need to. Those fan leaves make food for your plant, and if you rip too many off, your plant will get hungry.

Thanks! Actually I think the one that is lanky is probably because it wasn't directly under the light, and I was thinking about FIM'ing it but now I think its too late since its beginning to flower

[Help_Needed]

Thanks! Actually I think the one that is lanky is probably because it wasn't directly under the light, and I was thinking about FIM'ing it but now I think its too late since its beginning to flower

I've topped a plant once during flowering. For some reason it just wouldn't stop it's "preflower" stretch and was getting really big compared to the other plants. I didn't get the nice quadruple colas you get when a plant is topped during veg, but it sure stopped the vertical stretch in it's tracks :D.

[Revanche21]

I've topped a plant once during flowering. For some reason it just wouldn't stop it's "preflower" stretch and was getting really big compared to the other plants. I didn't get the nice quadruple colas you get when a plant is topped during veg, but it sure stopped the vertical stretch in it's tracks :D.

:mad: Yea im surprised that my babies aren't in full flower yet, the growth of the nodes JUST started to show signs of flowering

12/12 from seed and still no buds been over a month!

[Revanche21]

Would switching to 11/13 help flower quicker?

[Help_Needed]

Not really. Some strains are just slower than others. It's been a while, but if I remember right, the first time I grew this Forbidden Fruit that I've got going it took almost 3 weeks before I saw preflowers on some of the plants. And one of the plants never did flower. I chopped it during the fourth week of 12/12. Figured it was probably defective anyway, and I needed the extra room for my other plants.

[Revanche21]

My plant is about 30 days old now under 12/12 I hope it starts budding soon, they are getting too big for my liking lol

[hydrocannabis]

looken great there. cant wate to see em flowering.

[Revanche21]

looken great there. cant wate to see em flowering.

I think starting them directly 12/12 from seed might inhibit their response time to switch to flowering mode as they are use to the time schedule

if I started them off 24/0 for a week or two, maybe when I switched it to 12/12 they would switch much quicker


orrrrrrrrr

its just genetic.

[Revanche21]

Dumped the 8 day old stuff

New batch of water:
10Liters = 2.6 Gallons

15ml Calmag
20ml Liquid Karma
15ml Hydroguard
15ml ProGrow
10ml ProBloom

These numbers are all below recommended dosing (cuz im still a n00b :thumbsup:)

[Forwhat420]

Hey Rev,
Lookin good! They will start showing overnight sometime within the next month...Hell mine are still going, start of 11 weeks since flower!! My lady left me without the camera though so I been high and depressed...LOL, well not really..
Thats the thing about 12/12 you never know what they are going to do. I like it but I think with 30 days of 18/6, and lst you can produce alot more under that 600 watt. In actually a shorter period of time. Anyhow, best of growing! Lata

[veggii]

hey rev , I just got done with your log looking good I also agree with ya that PH was causing minor problems as I have seen & heard lots about PH and wrinkling/crinkling in threads on this forum looks that your adjustment has worked I was also noticing that early on in the pics you posted about the ridges that your plants appeared too be droopy, and most of the time droopy is from overwatering, I was going too tell you,then I realized you were using DWC which I know even less about and didn't know what too recomend too fix it, but you already figured that out and fixed it by adding a extra air pump, your pretty good for a noob.. lol i am a noobi boobi noobi too
I have Jorge indoor/outdoor book its pretty good learned alot from it
just a word of caution before you use any of my advice or anybody else's cross check it thru other sources first.
I learned this the hardway,it sucked! have a great day and a great grow, nice style :thumbsup:

[Revanche21]

hey rev , I just got done with your log looking good I also agree with ya that PH was causing minor problems as I have seen & heard lots about PH and wrinkling/crinkling in threads on this forum looks that your adjustment has worked I was also noticing that early on in the pics you posted about the ridges that your plants appeared too be droopy, and most of the time droopy is from overwatering, I was going too tell you,then I realized you were using DWC which I know even less about and didn't know what too recomend too fix it, but you already figured that out and fixed it by adding a extra air pump, your pretty good for a noob.. lol i am a noobi boobi noobi too
I have Jorge indoor/outdoor book its pretty good learned alot from it
just a word of caution before you use any of my advice or anybody else's cross check it thru other sources first.
I learned this the hardway,it sucked! have a great day and a great grow, nice style :thumbsup:

Thanks :)

Yea this book is a lifesaver

[veggii]

rev oh I ran out of edit time a Idea popped into my head from one of stunky's logs. the 3 days of dark when initiating flowering maybe pick a certian time frame and put the plants in 3 days of dark and then back too 12/12 and see if that helps too intiaite flower ? could help maybe definately calls for a experiment anyhow l8trs gotta run

[Revanche21]

rev oh I ran out of edit time a Idea popped into my head from one of stunky's logs. the 3 days of dark when initiating flowering maybe pick a certian time frame and put the plants in 3 days of dark and then back too 12/12 and see if that helps too intiaite flower ? could help maybe definately calls for a experiment anyhow l8trs gotta run

I mean the nodal growth has changed to flowering and I can tell the tops are beginning to form into buds but it just took so darn long! I wasn't sure what was going on (possible too much light leaks?) Other members of the household wasn't aware that it can't have any light on the plants when the big HID was off @__@

[Revanche21]

update: added 2L of water with 5ml of Pro blend Grow

[veggii]

rev defiantely light leaks are a major issue fix them ASAP! no light leaks :thumbsup:

[veggii]

pssst I was looking in the indoor/outdoor bible and stumbled on this;
"Big ridges between veins along with curled leaf fringes signify temperature strees coupled with salt buildup"
also;
"Leaf fringe standing up - Leaf fringes that point up mean the leaf is trying to dissapate as much moisture as possible,but it is unable to. This could be caused by toxic salt buildup,lack of water, or heat stress"

that might be the deepened ridges, might not have a good day;)

[Revanche21]

pssst I was looking in the indoor/outdoor bible and stumbled on this;
"Big ridges between veins along with curled leaf fringes signify temperature strees coupled with salt buildup"
also;
"Leaf fringe standing up - Leaf fringes that point up mean the leaf is trying to dissapate as much moisture as possible,but it is unable to. This could be caused by toxic salt buildup,lack of water, or heat stress"

that might be the deepened ridges, might not have a good day;)

yea thats what I figured and solved the problem already but thx :)

[Revanche21]

added 6 L of water with 10 ml of Pro Blend Bloom:jointsmile:

[Revanche21]

and tied down the stretchy-er one cause its getting too close to the light

[Revanche21]

added 2L of water

they sure do drink a lot of water!

[hydrocannabis]

they look great.:thumbsup: keep up the great work.

[Revanche21]

6 L of water + 20 ml Pro Blend Bloom

[Revanche21]

2L of water + 5ml Calmag + 15ml Botanicare Sweet

why are they not in full flower yet!?:wtf:

[Revanche21]

The leaves look clearly Sativa but its such a short bushy plant!

[Revanche21]

lol i really need to stop posting 3 posts per post and just get it all down in one but I suppose its my own thread so ya...


added 2 more L with a drop of superthrive

its becoming difficult to even add water to the DWC

[Shovelhandle]

um, beauty grow, man. But I can't remember what kinds you're growing? I went back two pages and I didn't notice anything. So, what are they? They are looking beauty though!

[Revanche21]

um, beauty grow, man. But I can't remember what kinds you're growing? I went back two pages and I didn't notice anything. So, what are they? They are looking beauty though!

on the 1st page

(Blueberry x Bubblegum) x (K2 x Vietnamese) = White Vietnemese Bubbleberry?

[Revanche21]

4L of plain water added

raised light an inch

[Revanche21]

room mate doesn't seem to care about me asking to not turn on the light in the closet -__- o well:(

so I guess its noteworthy to mention this grow has been riddled with light interruptions during 'night' periods and is probably the reason why the plants are taking so long to fully flower

PS: my digital timer is set to go on at 2am and off at 2pm but I have noticed that it will turn on sometime between 2:00-2:30 and turn off sometime around 2:00-2:30 and it is always different

Would adding an additional hour of dark facilitate the flowering? I don't mind about less yield

[Revanche21]

i added 30 min to the darkness period so its at a 11.5/12.5

[Stemis516]

i noticed ure adding superthrive still, that could be why they are flowering slowly, i hear there is alot of N in superthriver and also it just causes other issues during flower

[Revanche21]

i noticed ure adding superthrive still, that could be why they are flowering slowly, i hear there is alot of N in superthriver and also it just causes other issues during flower

thx for the tip!

I will def stop adding it as I always mess up adding the right amount anyway

1 droplet without a dropper is somewhat annoying haha

[Revanche21]

drained and refilled DWC with

35ml Pro Blend Bloom
20ml Sweet
5ml Hydroguard

in 6 L of aqua

[Shovelhandle]

sounds like a mix!

(Blueberry x Bubblegum) x (K2 x Vietnamese) = White Vietnemese Bubbleberry?

has a sativa look, maybe that is why it is slow to start flowering?

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

Looks Good Bro! Really Nice Grow. I think Next time around i am goinf to make my own DWC. Seems like it would be a good start into hydro! Cant wait to see budz. Ill be lurkin
-Swish

[Revanche21]

sounds like a mix!

(Blueberry x Bubblegum) x (K2 x Vietnamese) = White Vietnemese Bubbleberry?

has a sativa look, maybe that is why it is slow to start flowering?

thats what I was thinking but the lower leaves are actually thicker so it might be some kind of minor problem that I have failed to identify

[Revanche21]

added 3 L of reg water

and heres some pics

[Revanche21]

2L + 15ml Pro Blend Bloom

[Revanche21]

2L + 15ml Pro Blend Bloom

an additional 2L with 5ml Liquid Karma for today

[Revanche21]

saw this at a local pharmacy so decided to try it out

[Revanche21]

4L + 5ml CalMag + 5ml Sweet

[Revanche21]

sounds like a mix!

(Blueberry x Bubblegum) x (K2 x Vietnamese) = White Vietnemese Bubbleberry?

has a sativa look, maybe that is why it is slow to start flowering?

The top leaves are all 4 fingered it looks really funny I think its due to heat stress

the lower leaves are up to 7 fingers and nice and thick

[Revanche21]

The top leaves are all 4 fingered it looks really funny I think its due to heat stress

the lower leaves are up to 7 fingers and nice and thick

here are some leaves that were yellowing under the foliage that I just pulled out

[Revanche21]

added 4 L of reg water

any idea if im going way under the amount of nutes I should be giving?

the DWC holds about 12L normally, but with the huge amounts of roots, I can only put about 8L in it right now (3gallons, 2 gallons respectively)

I feel like I could push it a bit more but im afraid i'll mess things up

[Shovelhandle]

thats what I was thinking but the lower leaves are actually thicker so it might be some kind of minor problem that I have failed to identify

the Neville's Haze and AK-47, both sativa doms have plenty fat leaves on the bottom.

;)

[Revanche21]

the Neville's Haze and AK-47, both sativa doms have plenty fat leaves on the bottom.

;)

ok so I did some more research

(and by no means is this completely accurate!)

K2 is a mostly Indica (possible 8 week flower?)
Vietnamese is 100% Sativa (possible 12 week+ flower?)

Blueberry is a 80/20 Indica sativa (7 week flower?)
Bubblegum is a 55/45 Indica Sativa (couldn't find estimated flower time)
(known to slightly turn purple)

so yea I guess it is going to be a longer flower time

It is way slower than my bagseed grow compared to my previous grow and is very slow growth on a daily basis in terms of buds

I'm estimating 50/50 ish and should flower within 8-9 weeks

but I haven't been keeping track haha since its been 12/12 the entire time I wouldn't know which day to start counting as 'flowering period'



Additional details I found:

K2 - White strain, soft fruity sweet taste, touch of spice flavor, spacey effect that comes on quick
mostly Indica 8-9 weeks flower or 55-65 days

Blueberry - 80Indica/20Sativa, May gain a bluish hue, euphoric, medium to large calyxs 45-55 days to flower

Bubblegum - Indica 8-9 weeks or 55-65 days to flower

It seems that the information is sparse and not even all agreed upon which makes my task harder

and virtually no information on a 'Vietnamese' strain, just that it is a Sativa

To further my troubles in research, The strains reported to me in identification of the seeds are not F1 strains and so will have different genotype expressions

o well :D

[hydrocannabis]

sounds good anyway bro.

once I had a clone in a dwc bucket and she would drink around 4-5 lrs of water every 2 days.:D

well good luck wit ur strains budding out nicely.:thumbsup:

[d4twamp]

Sup Rev , I just found this thread...curious to see how it plays out...do you still plan on going 12/12 on your next grow....I'd find a different or better dedicated spot for the op as well...either that or I' d :beatdeadhorse: my roomate...lol...Keep on :weedpoke: I'll be lurkin

D:jointsmile:

[Revanche21]

Sup Rev , I just found this thread...curious to see how it plays out...do you still plan on going 12/12 on your next grow....I'd find a different or better dedicated spot for the op as well...either that or I' d :beatdeadhorse: my roomate...lol...Keep on :weedpoke: I'll be lurkin

D:jointsmile:

haha yea I am planning on buying a tent as soon as I have enough money saved up which might not be for months :/

I would probably do 18/6 for one or two weeks and then switch to 12/12 or I might just do 12/12 from seed again to test it out it all depends what I feel atm haha

on a side note:

added 6L
10ml Sweet
10ml Pro Blend Bloom

[meandean]

Very Nice! She's Sativa with just a dash of Indica. I add a teaspoon of Molasses to a gallon of my solution furing Flowering stage, helps produce alittle more yield and thicker Buds. Makes for a nice supplement. (side note) mix the molasses in alittle hot water first. Happy Growing! I'll be watching!

[Revanche21]

Very Nice! She's Sativa with just a dash of Indica. I add a teaspoon of Molasses to a gallon of my solution furing Flowering stage, helps produce alittle more yield and thicker Buds. Makes for a nice supplement. (side note) mix the molasses in alittle hot water first. Happy Growing! I'll be watching!

yea I hear the Botanicare Sweet is the same thing as the molasses

just added 4L of reg water today

[Revanche21]

photo update

[Revanche21]

4L with

5ml Pro Blend Bloom

[Revanche21]

Im surprised how resilient these babies are!

my 600 Watt HPS is 5.75 inches from the tip of the plants and barely any signs of heat stress

key word barely lol

[Revanche21]

Photo update, just cause I got a really good closeup

its like its oozing out of the leaves

[hydrocannabis]

It can only get better from on out right.:thumbsup:
the trich r looking great also.

[Revanche21]

4L of water

20ml Pro Blend Bloom
10ml Sweet
5ml Liquid Karma

[Revanche21]

I decided to flip the plants today (switch positions) and noticed there were lots of brown spots I did not even notice

check them out

I just replaced everything in the DWC:
45ml Pro Blend Bloom
15ml Liquid Karma
15ml Hydroguard

note: roots were shaped to the container lol

[Shovelhandle]

kul!

[Revanche21]

note to self: res change on the 21st

[KcStoner913]

its looking really good man!

[Revanche21]

4L added

10ml Sweet
5ml Calmag

[Revanche21]

4L
10ml Bloom

[Revanche21]

6L

10ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
10ml Hydroguard

I guess it might have either been zinc or Potassium deficiency?
I think bud growth has resumed?

[Revanche21]

6L
no nutes

I raised the light even more becaues I think the tips of the tallest colas are getting heat stress

[Revanche21]

6L
no nutes

[Revanche21]

6L
no nutes

probably do the res change tomorrow

[TurboALLWD]

I love you're buds man! They are looking FAT. are they the size of a pop can yet? I'm hoping mine get as fat as yours! :)

[Revanche21]

I love you're buds man! They are looking FAT. are they the size of a pop can yet? I'm hoping mine get as fat as yours! :)

not as big as my last journal, but they are getting there :jointsmile:

[hydrocannabis]

still they R looking badass anyway.:thumbsup:
cant wate to see them finish.

:thumbsup::D:thumbsup:

[TurboALLWD]

not as big as my last journal, but they are getting there :jointsmile:


You're something else man, I looked at you're previous bud porn and i have to say, GOD DAMN! YOU'RE THE MAN. I'm going to research you're posts and hopefully gain some of that knowledge you have :D Cant even tell you how impressed I am and how excited I am to see you're next bud porn. :thumbsup:

[Revanche21]

You're something else man, I looked at you're previous bud porn and i have to say, GOD DAMN! YOU'RE THE MAN. I'm going to research you're posts and hopefully gain some of that knowledge you have :D Cant even tell you how impressed I am and how excited I am to see you're next bud porn. :thumbsup:

thanks a lot! I'm still a beginner, I just have done my reading and have the growers bible from George Cervantes by my side :hippy:

[TurboALLWD]

Hmmm. George Cervantes huh? might have to pick that up myself :)

[Revanche21]

Hmmm. George Cervantes huh? might have to pick that up myself :)

great book to get!

[Revanche21]

added 8L and drained res

Added 6L with
15ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet
5ml Hydroguard

Plan for the next 9 days:
11/22
10ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet

11/23
10ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet

11/24
10ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet

11/25
10ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet
5ml Hydroguard

11/26
10ml Bloom
5ml Sweet

11/27
5ml Bloom

11/28
No Nute

11/29
No nute

11/30
Res rinse and repeat

Anyone suggest any changes to that?

[hydrocannabis]

they R looken great bro. but I would maybe back off just a little on the bloom nute. like maybe not every day.

cuz I do see some yellow leafies.

U should wate till someone more experienced info on this as I am also a noobie at dwc.
have done it only 5 times. and struggled all the way to harvest.

I am still learning new stuff about dwc.


I am also excited to see you're next bud porn come harvest time.:thumbsup:

[Revanche21]

Yesterday
4L
10ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet

Today
4L
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet

[Revanche21]

Today
4L

10ml Bloom
5ml Sweet

[Revanche21]

4L

10ml Bloom
5ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet
5ml Hydroguard

[TurboALLWD]

God i love you're plants and the forest you have, wanna trade one? :)

[Revanche21]

God i love you're plants and the forest you have, wanna trade one? :)

I think yours seem healthier

[TurboALLWD]

looks can be deceiving! I'm feeding them 1200ppm and their getting burned like no other. I just wish they were hydro ladies like yours and 5ft tall. Mine are babies compared to yours. Think their at 21 and 25in tall and havn't moved a centimeter for weeks now.

[Revanche21]

looks can be deceiving! I'm feeding them 1200ppm and their getting burned like no other. I just wish they were hydro ladies like yours and 5ft tall. Mine are babies compared to yours. Think their at 21 and 25in tall and havn't moved a centimeter for weeks now.

my shorter (healthier) one is 25 inches the other is 35 at the tallest point (but has thin colas)

[Revanche21]

change of plans

added 8L of reg water

will be back friday around noon +

[normski11]

hey guys dont mean to but in but you got a real fire hazzard waiting to happen why dont you go and buy some black and white plastic sheeting and romove your armani shirt and then use your brain at the minit buddy it looks like youve rode on in on your horse and forgot to take your cowboy suit off b4 you started really romove the shirt find some plastic sheeting latt it to the wall bingo...... no more fire hazzard grow cheap get cheap results simple!!!!:rastasmoke:

[Revanche21]

hey guys dont mean to but in but you got a real fire hazzard waiting to happen why dont you go and buy some black and white plastic sheeting and romove your armani shirt and then use your brain at the minit buddy it looks like youve rode on in on your horse and forgot to take your cowboy suit off b4 you started really romove the shirt find some plastic sheeting latt it to the wall bingo...... no more fire hazzard grow cheap get cheap results simple!!!!:rastasmoke:

I couldn't understand the grammer, but yea stinky told me about a possible fire hazard too

The only hazard I see is via shirt hanging from the HPS and maybe the sheet of paper taped to the wall.

its hanging by a clotheswire that is made of metal so theres some distance but I see the possible problem

The shirt acts as a reflector >__< but yes, it will be removed for the duration I am not at home

[trickdaddy450]

Hey man just thought I would check in and catch up. Plants are looking amazing I just can't believe how amazingly huge those got. Great work!!!!!:thumbsup:

[Revanche21]

Hey man just thought I would check in and catch up. Plants are looking amazing I just can't believe how amazingly huge those got. Great work!!!!!:thumbsup:

Thanks!

heres some more shots

[Revanche21]

Back today

2L
5ml Sweet

Due to time constraints once again I probably won't get the full two-tier'd harvest

I was thinking cutting down the shorter bushier one first since it looks more mature than the taller/skinnier one

I probably will have to cut down the plants and be done with the drying process before dec 19th

do you think it will be okay to leave the dried buds in a jar for a week + without the daily openning?

how will this affect the taste/curing process?

[dooobster]

Hmmm. George Cervantes huh? might have to pick that up myself :)

His name is actually Jorge.
Jorge Cervantes. But yes, get his books... Dude knows his cannabis! :D

Rockin grow, Revanche.. Lookin magnificent. :rastasmoke:
:hippy:

[misslilly]

Leaving them in for a week+ I think would depend on how damp they were and also what the temp was. When I left scraps from hash making wet and at room temp they got moldy faster than I though they would. If you could store them somewhere cold it would be safer. I don't know about taste but my scraps didn't smell to good.

[Revanche21]

His name is actually Jorge.
Jorge Cervantes. But yes, get his books... Dude knows his cannabis! :D

Rockin grow, Revanche.. Lookin magnificent. :rastasmoke:
:hippy:

ah yes my mistake lol

[Revanche21]

4L
no nutes

I think the cut down date is the 11th

[Revanche21]

2L no nutes***

[hydrocannabis]

new pix any.

[Revanche21]

new pix any.

they seem to have stopped growing in size

or maybe I just check-in on them so often that I don't notice

but they are asleep now, will take more pics tom :)

[Revanche21]

2 Tier'd reservoir change

add 4 L water drain
add 4 L water again, and drain

Add 6L of water with
20ml Clearex
5ml Sweet

I wonder if the sweet is pointless with the clearex in there?

Should I continue to feed it the Sweet up until harvest or should I stop now?

Not letting me upload photos right now will upload some later :cool:

[Revanche21]

the last photo shows how much nute burn :stoned:

[Revanche21]

Added 4L of water

Guesstimated harvest date is the 6th or 7th now

[redaaron]

really nice man. keep it up!

[reworgallirog]

True that the HPS will induce stretch.
I'm more concerned with the flannel-shirt fire starter... yikes. You gotta think safety. And fashion. Plaid flannel is so... Canadian! And flammable!

ya i agree that looks sketchy especially with the HPS and flannel combo.

[justbrowsing]

Hey man. Never posted on this site before but just wanted to let you know that we got a 7 cheese plants on the go at the moment, sprouted on the 9th sept, just a couple days after yours. We're looking at a harvest date of saturday 14th. I'll hang around this thread as I wouldn't mind knowing your final yield amount, wet and dry, and I'll post mine when it's done. Also, started 10 great white shark last saturday 30th nov. hoping to have those done and dusted by valentines day.

[Revanche21]

Hey man. Never posted on this site before but just wanted to let you know that we got a 7 cheese plants on the go at the moment, sprouted on the 9th sept, just a couple days after yours. We're looking at a harvest date of saturday 14th. I'll hang around this thread as I wouldn't mind knowing your final yield amount, wet and dry, and I'll post mine when it's done. Also, started 10 great white shark last saturday 30th nov. hoping to have those done and dusted by valentines day.

Welcome aboard!

on a side note:

drained and added 4L of fresh tap water

[dlovejah]

Nice grow Revanche.. Flower room looks great, loaded with Colas...Excellent work bro. d

[Revanche21]

drained again and added 5L of water with 30ml of clearex

every drain, the water becomes a brownish color so I'm guessing the draining is helping :D

[hydrocannabis]

any new pix. or they looking the kind of the same.

[Revanche21]

any new pix. or they looking the kind of the same.

pretty much lookin the same the taller ones are thickening up a bit but not really noticeable with pix

[Revanche21]

drained again

added 30ml Clearex with 4L

[Revanche21]

2L drain

2L drain again

added 2L

fan leaves are turning yellow

leaves near buds are turning a strange brown/purple color?

can't really tell with the HPS on, will take pictures when the babies go to sleep to investigate furthur

[Revanche21]

2L drain

2L drain again

added 2L

fan leaves are turning yellow

leaves near buds are turning a strange brown/purple color?

can't really tell with the HPS on, will take pictures when the babies go to sleep to investigate furthur

I just took a look and still can't really tell...

looks kinda purple but not really sure... ill probably know better later when I cut'er down

[Revanche21]

ok this is the last day

the 2L from yesterday is almost gone

The babies are lookin ok besides major fan leaves that are pale-yellow

the lower leaves are still green

does this mean I should still be flushing???

[hydrocannabis]

new pix please. I have had 1 of my hydro dwc plants get yellowing fan leafs half way through and she kept flowering for another 3 weeks or so.:D

so I was able to flush for 2 1/2 weeks after the fan leafs got yellow and fell off.and the buds keeped growing in size also.

If it was me I'd keep them flowering for a nother 2 weeks or so.:thumbsup:

:rasta:...

[Revanche21]

new pix please. I have had 1 of my hydro dwc plants get yellowing fan leafs half way through and she kept flowering for another 3 weeks or so.:D

so I was able to flush for 2 1/2 weeks after the fan leafs got yellow and fell off.and the buds keeped growing in size also.

If it was me I'd keep them flowering for a nother 2 weeks or so.:thumbsup:

:rasta:...

i'm mainly chopping them down because of leaving to visit family and I won't be here for a week+

I don't mind if they arent optimal

I just need some cheap medication :)

[Revanche21]

lights turned off an hour earlier than normal

the DWC is near dry on the inside

The light will not turn on tonight so the dark period before cutting them down is about 20 hours + (assuming I wake up at 8 or 9) 7 or 8 hours more than usual

[hydrocannabis]

well they still look ok.something is atleast better than nothing.:thumbsup:

[tokingfool]

can u point out what the tell tale is between male/female on you plants and maybe draw something that shors the difference my plants are a little younger i am using aerogarden i started 24/0 for 10 days now im on 16/8 when should i swithch to 12/12 since i dont have more than 32 inches of clearance
please help this is my first time and im lost


if you have 32 inches of clearance, start budding when your plant is about 15-16 inches tall, your plants will almost double in size when you start to cut the lights, theres a 2 week period from Veg to bud when your plant will take off

[Revanche21]

well they still look ok.something is atleast better than nothing.:thumbsup:

indeed.

forking over money to others to grow a plant that I can grow myself!?

muahahaha :D

[Revanche21]

Chopped

now should I was thinking letting them hang for about 4 days

then trimming and moving into brown unwaxed bags

any suggestions?

the outside temp is 55F inside is probably a little higher as there is a heater and 3 souls within the home

[Revanche21]

Delicious blueberry smell MMMMmmmmMMMMM couple more days!

[hydrocannabis]

cant wate to see some dryed bud pix. would be nice to see the buds all laid out on a table or whatever.:thumbsup:

[Revanche21]

ok so I trimmed a few colas and set them in a bag for the first few days

but then after 2 days or so it seemed the ones that were hanging upside down were much more dry than the ones in the bag

I used my previous contraption to dry the ones that were in the bag

now they are all hanging in a closet

the stems don't snap yet but do you think if I trimmed now and put them in a brown paper bag and opened it 2-3 times a day it would be sufficient for the rest of the drying or should I just wait till the stem cracks and then move them into bags?

[MrLeeHolloway]

Hey, I read through your 2nd and 3rd grow. I was wondering why you used to many nutes? Did you think at the time it might have been overkill? I'm in my first grow and I usually give the girls lower than recommended nutes just to be on the safe side. I'm waiting for them to tell me they need more before adding. I'm not sure if you've already seen this but check it out for future grows

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688)

[Revanche21]

Hey, I read through your 2nd and 3rd grow. I was wondering why you used to many nutes? Did you think at the time it might have been overkill? I'm in my first grow and I usually give the girls lower than recommended nutes just to be on the safe side. I'm waiting for them to tell me they need more before adding. I'm not sure if you've already seen this but check it out for future grows

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688)

yea im pretty much trying to push it to the limits

these are pretty much experiments so I get some experience with growing

im in no rush or anything so yea

I gradually increased the doses till it was bad for the plants up until the recommended dosing on the bottles

[Revanche21]

Sneak Peak~!

[hydrocannabis]

Revanche21. very very very very nicely done. look at all thouse beautiful trich.
:D:D:D:D:D:D

[TurboALLWD]

Those trichs are bad ass! nice sneak peak :) I'm getting excited! smoke report soon?

[Revanche21]

smells like blueberrybubblegum

maybe even a blueberry muffin

about 30% of the hanging colas had stems that crack-snapped

So i just went ahead and cut them all up and placed them in a bag to maybe even out the moisture from the inside of the nugs

Total Yield: 96.8 grams of Grade 'A' bud, and 26.3grams of grade 'B' bud (lower branches with less trichomes to no trichomes

Total Time: 85 days from seed

ok now time to:eat: since im :S5:

[LolaGal]

Revanche, do you know about curing in Mason jars? I find it brings out flavors in herb. In my opinion, brown bags can impart a bad taste.

Congrats on the harvest.

[Revanche21]

Revanche, do you know about curing in Mason jars? I find it brings out flavors in herb. In my opinion, brown bags can impart a bad taste.

Congrats on the harvest.

yea im doing the brown bag for one day

it actually makes mine smell really good

I just want the moisture from the inside of the nugs to kind of stabalize since the outside is very dry and brittle

Is there an ideal temperature for drying and humidity?

[LolaGal]

Oh I cure buds for 3 months sometimes in mason jars.

I would say low humidity as possible without drying them out crunchy. Since it's winter indoor air should be fine.

[Balkey]

Nice job! Looks nice a tasty. One thing though, are you sure you didn't harvest them a bit early? In some of the close up's I think I'm seeing a good amount of clear trichomes.

Either way, you shall love em!:jointsmile:

Edit: could def. just be my eyes though! lol :stoned:

[Revanche21]

Nice job! Looks nice a tasty. One thing though, are you sure you didn't harvest them a bit early? In some of the close up's I think I'm seeing a good amount of clear trichomes.

Either way, you shall love em!:jointsmile:

Edit: could def. just be my eyes though! lol :stoned:

yea its about 40% clear trichomes

the bottom nugs don't even have trichomes (Barely)

I have to leave to visit family for the holidays for up to two weeks so had to chop early