Cast Your Vote!

[Psycho4Bud]

Well, we got the names of the V.P.'s so lets see where the fans really stand. Cast your vote...

Have a good one!:s4:

[theforthdrive]

none of the above!

[BigWeed]

Well, we got the names of the V.P.'s so lets see where the fans really stand. Cast your vote...

Have a good one!:s4:
Theres my vote Obama/Biden:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

Before I forget Whats Up Psycho.

[rebgirl420]

McCain/Palin

Almost anything is better than Obama.

[SnSstealth]

Im voting for Willy Nelson and Ted Nugent:bump2:
whiskeytango

[rebgirl420]

The Nugent!

Fuck yeah! I seen him and ZZ Top in concert and it was fantastic. He shot a bow through Saddams cardboard head.

[killerweed420]

I'm going to write in Tommy Chong for P and Marc Emery for VP. I don't think Marc will make it.lol

[veggii]

Im voting for Willy Nelson and Ted Nugent:bump2:
whiskeytango

they got my vote ..fo sho :thumbsup:

[rebgirl420]

I'm going to write in Tommy Chong for P and Marc Emery for VP. I don't think Marc will make it.lol

Maynard from TOOL is always a safe bet ;)

[the image reaper]

I held my nose and voted McCain/Palin, but my heart's leanin' towards Hunter S. Thompson/Ted Nugent :thumbsup: :S2:

[Bong30]

McCain -Palin

Nugent for secretary of defense:thumbsup:

any other appointments?

[GoddessHerb]

And you guys want cannabis legalized?:wtf: Both Obama and McCain are nothing but puppets and have absolutely no brain or balls of their own. IMHO, anyone who votes for either one is part of the problem not the solution. I'd like to see a third party candidate (like Ron Paul or Ralph Nader) finally get a chance to win. You know someone who's saying something DIFFERENT! Not just pandering to voters to get elected so they can do what ever they want once their in power. Oh wait that's right no one really cares. Sad just sad. :sadcrying

It's unfortunate that people don't realize they have a choice not to choose between dumb and dumber. What a country full of sheeple. Things will never change because no one wants to work to change them. Status quo keep the peace if you don't like it leave. I can't wait until the shit really hits the fan. At least then the civil war going on in the US will be above ground on a real battlefield and not in the media, minds, prisons and schools of our country.

There's a war going on for your mind. If you are thinking you are winning. ~Flobots

[Sir Bliss]

Mike Gravel...

Oh shit.

Obama/Biden. Come on now. Too easy.

[The Colonel]

Obama/Biden get my vote. And they seem to be doing pretty good in this poll.

[katyowns]

The choice of Palin secured the fact that there's no way in fucking hell I am going to vote for McCain.

[the image reaper]

And you guys want cannabis legalized?:wtf: Both Obama and McCain are nothing but puppets and have absolutely no brain or balls of their own. IMHO, anyone who votes for either one is part of the problem not the solution. I'd like to see a third party candidate (like Ron Paul or Ralph Nader) finally get a chance to win. You know someone who's saying something DIFFERENT! Not just pandering to voters to get elected so they can do what ever they want once their in power. Oh wait that's right no one really cares. Sad just sad. :sadcrying

It's unfortunate that people don't realize they have a choice not to choose between dumb and dumber. What a country full of sheeple. Things will never change because no one wants to work to change them. Status quo keep the peace if you don't like it leave. I can't wait until the shit really hits the fan. At least then the civil war going on in the US will be above ground on a real battlefield and not in the media, minds, prisons and schools of our country.

There's a war going on for your mind. If you are thinking you are winning. ~Flobots

the only 'war' going on, is the one between your ultra-liberal politics and a common sense of responsibility :wtf: ... there's more important things than whether or not I can smoke pot legally ... while McCain would be an opponent of my Medical Marijuana, and my Social Security/Medicare, I strongly believe the overall well-being and safety of my country is more critical than my own personal comfort ... as we like to say, "Freedom isn't Free" ... :thumbsup:

[Mississippi Steve]

Well, we got the names of the V.P.'s so lets see where the fans really stand. Cast your vote...

Have a good one!:s4:

Given the lack of choices, I will have to side with McCain/Palin....OTOH, I might do a write in for Robin Williams.

[eg420ne]

:thumbsup:Obama/Biden:thumbsup: Just say NO to McPalin

[painretreat]

Bump after VP debates are over!

I will have more pride in voting for my Senator and Congressperson, at this point!

Undecided. Where is that choice? Paulin seems like a Newt G. to me!

Politic's, religion and sex! 3 of the most private and combustible subjects in this region! PR :(

[katyowns]

Bump after VP debates are over!



Biden is going to DESTROY Palin in the debates. It's going to be comical even.

[rebgirl420]

Biden is going to DESTROY Palin in the debates. It's going to be comical even.

Biden won't have a chance is McCain puts his new idea into the debates!

(But seriously, I'm thinking that Palin can pull her weight)

[Immolation]

I'm Glad some people are voting for Mccain.I had a fellow Pothead go Off on me for voting for Mccain.:) I was like, Can we still be Friends even if we disagree?:) I suppose no matter who wins, We will survive.

[flyingimam]

I was like, Can we still be Friends even if we disagree?:)
sometimes its best not to! lol & sometimes its best to!



I suppose no matter who wins, We will survive.
ummm this by itself is a point for a debate! we are not god-given a guarantee of survival on earth!!!!

[Reefer Rogue]

I'm half American and i'd vote for Obama/Biden

[JD1stTimer]

What is Half American? And to the "more important than my personal comfort, freedom isn't free" poster, freedom also comes with a side order of freedom. If you're gonna pay for it you need to get your money's worth, know what I mean?

[thcbongman]

And you guys want cannabis legalized?:wtf: Both Obama and McCain are nothing but puppets and have absolutely no brain or balls of their own. IMHO, anyone who votes for either one is part of the problem not the solution. I'd like to see a third party candidate (like Ron Paul or Ralph Nader) finally get a chance to win. You know someone who's saying something DIFFERENT! Not just pandering to voters to get elected so they can do what ever they want once their in power. Oh wait that's right no one really cares. Sad just sad. :sadcrying

It's unfortunate that people don't realize they have a choice not to choose between dumb and dumber. What a country full of sheeple. Things will never change because no one wants to work to change them. Status quo keep the peace if you don't like it leave. I can't wait until the shit really hits the fan. At least then the civil war going on in the US will be above ground on a real battlefield and not in the media, minds, prisons and schools of our country.

There's a war going on for your mind. If you are thinking you are winning. ~Flobots

You think going to one of those legalization rallies where everyone dresses like shit, going there as an excuse to go smoke weed and listen to music. It's like a facade, even tho I believe in legalization, I couldn't take those rallies seriously. It's not anyone is actually angry at those rallies because everyone is high. A 3rd party wouldn't change that because everything is tied to that image. You think voting for a 3rd party candidate will beat an image that has lasted for decades? I think not.

Until general impressions about smoking who smokes cannabis changes, it will never be legalized. I hate to say it, but the vast majority of potheads don't give a lasting impression. People can say "don't judge" but it won't change the fact the majority judges by appearances, by bullshit. Bullshit is important to the majority.

Anyway, I'm waiting until the last minute to decide for our president. Both of them are hypocrits.

[Mississippi Steve]

You think going to one of those legalization rallies where everyone dresses like shit, going there as an excuse to go smoke weed and listen to music. It's like a facade, even tho I believe in legalization, I couldn't take those rallies seriously. It's not anyone is actually angry at those rallies because everyone is high. A 3rd party wouldn't change that because everything is tied to that image. You think voting for a 3rd party candidate will beat an image that has lasted for decades? I think not.

Until general impressions about smoking who smokes cannabis changes, it will never be legalized. I hate to say it, but the vast majority of potheads don't give a lasting impression. People can say "don't judge" but it won't change the fact the majority judges by appearances, by bullshit. Bullshit is important to the majority.

Anyway, I'm waiting until the last minute to decide for our president. Both of them are hypocrits.


Maybe everybody should be dressed formal to go to the rallies?? or at least in business atire...

[dragonrider]

Maybe everybody should be dressed formal to go to the rallies?? or at least in business atire...

Maybe just business casual...
Of maybe business casual with "Optional Hawaiian Shirt Friday."

[dragonrider]

Got so wrapped up in the pot rally dress code issue, that I almost forgot to vote ... Obama and Biden!

[thcbongman]

Maybe everybody should be dressed formal to go to the rallies?? or at least in business atire...

lol,

It wouldn't hurt image wise to help limit the attacking points to cannabis itself rather than the image it conjours. Although at this point it wouldn't help, the pothead stereotype is already so prevalant in the media.

Look at the heavy moderating on cannabis.com. One of the reasons is to do their best to change that impression to one who responsibly uses cannabis, which most are.

[TheMetal1]

Just cast my vote for the super strong.... uhhh 3rd party. Anyone know the candidate for these guys?
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I freaking HATE that game :stoned:

I pretty much hear this word everywhere I go... in real life and imaginary worlds :hippy: So... I feel that this "Word of the day," would go well in here.

[ik-speer-ee-uhns] The accumulation of knowledge or skill that results from direct participation in events or activities.

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Stay :D and Keep :jointsmile:

[GoddessHerb]

the only 'war' going on, is the one between your ultra-liberal politics and a common sense of responsibility :wtf: ... there's more important things than whether or not I can smoke pot legally ... while McCain would be an opponent of my Medical Marijuana, and my Social Security/Medicare, I strongly believe the overall well-being and safety of my country is more critical than my own personal comfort ... as we like to say, "Freedom isn't Free" ... :thumbsup:

First of all liberal implies Liberty! Which I don't have and neither do you. I'm a libertarian BTW. Common sense of what responsibilty? I'm not responsible for anything but my OWN actions. So tell me what's more important then my right to life, liberty and happiness? Or any of the rights I've already lost because you (and those like you) would/have gladly give(n) up your rights (and mine) to feel safe. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin. I guess it's just bad luck for me I live in the same country as you. Well, I'm not going to give up my right to have an abortion (and yes that is something that will be an issue if McCain and Pallin are elected) and you can't make me. There is so much more at stake than 99% of people know because they choose not to know. If you think that either dumb or dumber have anything but the interests of the rich and powerful on their agenda, your part of the problem. There is so much going on, on a level few can comprehend. Call me a nut I don't care. It just means I can see through the bullshit and you can't.

Freedom isn't free but letting your leaders rule you isn't freedom. It's tyranny. I'm glad you like big daddy government telling you what to think and how to act but I don't. Maybe you should report to central processing for your microchip. I'm sorry you live in a made up world (you probably believe what you see on the news too). You're going to be rudely awakened someday. I'm sure it will be fairly soon too. It's people like me that will give their lives to save you from the monster you're creating (and yes it's for your comfort). Like you said freedom isn't free you're just not the one willing to sacrifice anything but our rights for it.

I just don't get what people don't get. You don't matter. You're vote doesn't matter. The machines can be (and I'm sure have been) rigged. Our government is broken, hijacked by those with money and an agenda all their own. What you want means nothing. You live in a world where the corporations and politicians tell you what you want not the other way around. Just like they tell you who you want to vote for.

Blessed be~

[flyingimam]

First of all liberal implies Liberty! Which I don't have and neither do you. I'm a libertarian BTW. Common sense of what responsibilty? I'm not responsible for anything but my OWN actions. So tell me what's more important then my right to life, liberty and happiness? Or any of the rights I've already lost because you (and those like you) would/have gladly give(n) up your rights (and mine) to feel safe. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin. I guess it's just bad luck for me I live in the same country as you. Well, I'm not going to give up my right to have an abortion (and yes that is something that will be an issue if McCain and Pallin are elected) and you can't make me. There is so much more at stake than 99% of people know because they choose not to know. If you think that either dumb or dumber have anything but the interests of the rich and powerful on their agenda, your part of the problem. There is so much going on, on a level few can comprehend. Call me a nut I don't care. It just means I can see through the bullshit and you can't.

Freedom isn't free but letting your leaders rule you isn't freedom. It's tyranny. I'm glad you like big daddy government telling you what to think and how to act but I don't. Maybe you should report to central processing for your microchip. I'm sorry you live in a made up world (you probably believe what you see on the news too). You're going to be rudely awakened someday. I'm sure it will be fairly soon too. It's people like me that will give their lives to save you from the monster you're creating (and yes it's for your comfort). Like you said freedom isn't free you're just not the one willing to sacrifice anything but our rights for it.

I just don't get what people don't get. You don't matter. You're vote doesn't matter. The machines can be (and I'm sure have been) rigged. Our government is broken, hijacked by those with money and an agenda all their own. What you want means nothing. You live in a world where the corporations and politicians tell you what you want not the other way around. Just like they tell you who you want to vote for.

Blessed be~

i would have to say WOW, but kinda somwhere inside me im with ya!:thumbsup:

[flyingimam]

damn 10 mins passed and my edit went down the drain

EDIT to above post: I dont mean to meddle with your personal debate with reaper

but if any1 wants me to give a case of why i agree with above statements, i have a few points to make...

for now, a country of 300 million people who is the best place to be on this planet according to many people, MUST BE ASHAMED that we have only 25% of our population with higher education (college opens your eyes to many things, if ur mind has the ability to grow) and should not expect a better public view on anything when people have no interest in educating themselves

even many of our college students/grads go there merely for getting the degree and thus the job... they fail to actually analyze our history and our government books and courses! they just wanna get over with it

i feel bad when i see everyone is in a rush to leave the classes 10 mins b4 they are officially over... leave for what... to catch ya girls or homies on cell phone or to go to a crappy low pay job?? almost no1 takes interest in what they learn more than getting the grade, hardly people open up to different ideas than theirs

no1 uses their brain anymore in this land.. no offense, i mean compared to general population few people have unbiased mental analytical ability (fair judgement, side taking) we are fed with our family's and local society's agendas from day1

just wondering: how many of u actually have gone out and researched and found YOURSELF the religion or opinions/values u hold dearly, compared to those of u who basically have inherited it from family!?

i knew it, almost everyone's opinions are formed due to familys opinions in first place and society's beliefs in 2nd, most people dont even know why they are baptist or catholic, other than being born to a domination area of either sect in the country


tradition is tradition, some parts of it are older than times and must be changed or be gone 4 good! Extremist muslims say its their tradition to cut one's hand for theft as penalty and it is their tradition, their tradition says to stone adulterers... so merely following traditions is not always a good choice, u hold your tradition dear, they hold theirs!

most of us fail to think independently, we fail to analyze things for ourselves, we just suffice to what we are fed with as long as it matches our background values... and if doesnt, well thats the shit we have between the left and right in this country, both do stupid things and keep blaiming each other

we fail to notice the corruption and wrongdoings of our administartions of all sides, right or left, we fail to notice all the coup-de-tats we initiated and participated in, cuz we think supporting uncle sam uncontionally is the only way to be a patriot. but to me being a patriot is making decisions that will give us long-lasting safety, not just bullying around with old enemies or short lived allies and paranoia of some attack all the time! that aint patriotic.
patriot is some1 who invests more in education than in military, patriot is the one who makes attracting tax system so businesses dont run away abroad!
a patriot is the one who holds the constitution and our rights beloved as much as they like their bibles!
a patriot is the one who got the ballz to stand up to the government and president when do wrong
a patriot is the one who doesnt support our troops to go in and get killed in a war no1 really knows what its about anymore, half lies, half security, half oil, wtf?!
a patriot is the one who notices that 2 sided politics that we have is the only democracy looking as awkward as ours where non right or left get 0 attention and thus does something to change this
patriot is the one who finds a way to stop us from borrowing money, going on the path to financial suicide sometime in future,the one who does something about our social security that everyone admits is going to fail in future!
but it seems our politicians are most interested in their career and vote numbers and our people sadly either dont care about any of it or only care about whats important for them!


we are not guaranteed to be the only super power forever, look we had to deal with china and they are pretty much a communist state as strong as us in means of military.. we got missiles they got missiles, we got nukes they got nukes... so u see THE BIG STICK time is over... too many parties have big sticks, maybe not as big as ours but big enough to be scary even for us these days, and not all of them are allied with us

patriot is the one who makes a decision and comes up with an opinion that will solve our freakin law breaking wars over for good

our last declared war was WWII, how many military conflicts have we been to since then? laws broken? congress failing iuts duties? or they just simply change the law to t

its funny how many times we use double-standards for many things from wars to drugs to countries to interpreting the constitution

[Mississippi Steve]

Flyingmam,

Welcome to the wonderful world of "No child left behind". :wtf:

[dragonrider]

So far it is a landslide for Obama, which is what I predict in November as well. Probably not by the same margin as in this poll, but by a decisive margin.

The Republicans have done nearly as much damage to their own party as they have done to the country and world at large.

Now and then there is a politcal, cultural or economic event that shifts the balance of power for decades. The Great Depression shifted power to the Democrats, and it lasted for a very long time. The cultural turmoil of the Sixties shifted power to the Republicans and it has lasted for a long time too.

I think maybe the discontent of the last eight years, with the war, with ignoring important issues like global climate change, with decling wages and other economic issues, with a overblown debt and deficit --- I think maybe this decade is going to be one that Democrats will use to punish Republicans for years to come. Republicans held control of all branches of government for most of this time and they drove the country into a ditch. They cut their own throats with their incompetence. They are done.

[daihashi]

So far it is a landslide for Obama, which is what I predict in November as well. Probably not by the same margin as in this poll, but by a decisive margin.

Honestly we really won't know until October sometime when things start to really pick up and get crazy. Last time I checked though a 5 point poll lead is not a land slide. Obama will need a double digit lead if he wants to put the election on lock down.


The Republicans have done nearly as much damage to their own party as they have done to the country and world at large.


Republicans.. democrats.. They've both done huge damage to their party. Congress is a democratic Congress yet it has an approval rating hovering around 20%. Doesn't sound like Democrats are faring much better.

I honestly wished we had a more diverse party system enforced by legislation.



Now and then there is a politcal, cultural or economic event that shifts the balance of power for decades. The Great Depression shifted power to the Democrats, and it lasted for a very long time. The cultural turmoil of the Sixties shifted power to the Republicans and it has lasted for a long time too.

I think maybe the discontent of the last eight years, with the war, with ignoring important issues like global climate change, with decling wages and other economic issues, with a overblown debt and deficit --- I think maybe this decade is going to be one that Democrats will use to punish Republicans for years to come. Republicans held control of all branches of government for most of this time and they drove the country into a ditch. They cut their own throats with their incompetence. They are done.

You could possibly be right. 20 out of the 28 years the republicans have held office. I honestly don't feel they've driven us into a ditch. However I feel the party has definitely veered very far from what it once stood for.

[dragonrider]

Honestly we really won't know until October sometime when things start to really pick up and get crazy. Last time I checked though a 5 point poll lead is not a land slide. Obama will need a double digit lead if he wants to put the election on lock down.

It's true we won't know for some time, and the polling shows a very close race. But I think that maybe the polling methodologies have not kept up with the times. For example, pollsters call people on land lines, while a significant number of young people do not even have land line phones --- they use cell phones. Also polls use demographic models of who they THINK are going to representative of voters, but the Obama campaign claims to have brought in large numbers of people who were not likely to vote in the past. I think the polls are missing a large segment of people who are going to vote for Obama.

In addition, you have much more excitement on the Democratic side than you have on the Republican side. That will probably translate into a difference in turnout on election day. So even if the margin really is only 5%, if a larger percentage of Obama voters are motivated to turn out than the percentage of McCain voters, it will increase the final margin.

You are absolutely correct that we won't know for some time, maybe not even until election day. But I have a feeliong it is going for the Democrats in a big way this year.

[rebgirl420]

I'm happy to vote McCain/Palin.

If it wasn't for her being Religious I would be 100% behind her.

Anything is better than Obama/Biden.

Finally, a Female Republican (or politician in general) that doesn't have jowls.

She's hot.

[dragonrider]

Finally, a Female Republican (or politician in general) that doesn't have jowls.

She's hot.

Ha ha! Hilarious picture! Star spangled bikini and a rifle! And the guy behind her with a pounder of beer and a smoke!

She's good looking, but not really my kind of girl. Still, I'm sure she will appeal to a certian "demographic."

[rebgirl420]

Ha ha! Hilarious picture! Star spangled bikini and a rifle! And the guy behind her with a pounder of beer and a smoke!

She's good looking, but not really my kind of girl. Still, I'm sure she will appeal to a certian "demographic."

Come on man, get in the American spirit!

[TheMetal1]

All sorts of old embarrasing pics are showing up online now.... :jointsmile:

[rebgirl420]

It's her alright haha.

And I don't think that pic is embaressing. It reminds me of me haha.

[epilepticme]

I'm happy to vote McCain/Palin.

If it wasn't for her being Religious I would be 100% behind her.

Anything is better than Obama/Biden.

Finally, a Female Republican (or politician in general) that doesn't have jowls.

She's hot.
she is hot... just cant vote McCain. I have to vote for the quickest end to the wars. I need my baby sister to come home safe and sound. Sooner rather than later.

[TheMetal1]

It's her alright haha.

Nice try ;)

Funny.... but far from real.

[rebgirl420]

HAHAH my god your right!

I knew it was too good to be true!!!!

But seriously, I still like her (she is a lifetime NRA member after all)

[OneIn1]

Biden is going to DESTROY Palin in the debates. It's going to be comical even.

Well if Biden tries to DESTROY her he will end up losing because people will he is being too harsh on the woman.

Clinton and Biden both voted for the iraq war which is what Obama ran on and then he picks Biden to booster his national security and foreign policy credidentials on his ticket. WTF??? Biden doesn't know shit about foreign policy, he voted against the troop surge which has worked and will allow either McCain or Obama to bring troops home within a year or so. He voted for separating Iraq by the muslim religions which would have benfeited Iran because Shiite muslims would have dominated Iraq and Iran isthe only nation with an overwhelming majority of Shiites. Joe Biden grew up in delaware with segregation until 1963. And even though I cant say he is racist, he does not advance the human race by asking to unroot families and segregate them in Iraq. Jus wait till the debates

[rebgirl420]

Well if Biden tries to DESTROY her he will end up losing because people will he is being too harsh on the woman.

Clinton and Biden both voted for the iraq war which is what Obama ran on and then he picks Biden to booster his national security and foreign policy credidentials on his ticket. WTF??? Biden doesn't know shit about foreign policy, he voted against the troop surge which has worked and will allow either McCain or Obama to bring troops home within a year or so. He voted for separating Iraq by the muslim religions which would have benfeited Iran because Shiite muslims would have dominated Iraq and Iran isthe only nation with an overwhelming majority of Shiites. Joe Biden grew up in delaware with segregation until 1963. And even though I cant say he is racist, he does not advance the human race by asking to unroot families and segregate them in Iraq. Jus wait till the debates

Very nicely put.

Good post.

[flyingimam]

:stoned:

Tried to find the original myself, no luck.

there we go, this was the thread i was looking for earlier lol

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[Reefer Rogue]

What is Half American? And to the "more important than my personal comfort, freedom isn't free" poster, freedom also comes with a side order of freedom. If you're gonna pay for it you need to get your money's worth, know what I mean?

Half American means that my Dad is American and my Mum is English, thus i have had dual nationality. Yes, i've lived in America and still have family there.

[Markass]

I like to smoke pot and sometimes when I smoke pot, I forget that it's tuesday and stuff..Plus, the choice I have as republican, isn't a TRUE republican..he's a "in this day and age" republican.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Well, we got the names of the V.P.'s so lets see where the fans really stand. Cast your vote...

Have a good one!:s4:



God damnit, i hate american idol. :mad:

the only thing it compares to is presidential elections, which i happen to hate a lot more... ... there should be a hella kickass way cool emoticon that portrays the absolute and spiritual dominance over injustice and deception. instead, let's watch a smiley representing a failed society: :microwave:

[JakeMartinez]

I wholeheartedly support Obama/Biden.

McCain is a bumbling idiot in my eyes, and Palin doesn't deserve to be a cabinet member, let alone 2nd in line for president.

Yeah, Obama's inexperienced but he listens to the people, at least. He listens to advisors, too.

So between my love for Obama and my fear of McCain/Palin...yeah.

[kapnobatai]

OBAMA!!! McCain is bush all over again are you serious?? obama isn't the best choice for our next president but McCain wants to continue gorge bushes economic policies....... :pimp:

[daihashi]

OBAMA!!! McCain is bush all over again are you serious?? obama isn't the best choice for our next president but McCain wants to continue gorge bushes economic policies....... :pimp:

If by economic policies you mean Tax cuts.. then yes he does, and so does Obama :thumbsup:

There honestly hasn't been a whole lot from the Bush administration in regards to the Economy. Both McCain and Obama want to keep the bush tax cuts and have economic plans of their own.

[kapnobatai]

YouTube - John McCain: Economic Disaster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk)


you're really voting for that guy???

[Mississippi Steve]

I'm still gonna do a write in for Robin Williams for prez. I have absolutely not faith in anything that is currently on the ballot

[baseballman]

Everybody in this forum should vote for Obama! At least he is ok with MMJ in all states while McCain is not and never will be he said.

[Blaize]

Obama/Biden

McCain is too right wing for me, or should I say uptight? lol

[Blaize]

So far it is a landslide for Obama, which is what I predict in November as well. Probably not by the same margin as in this poll, but by a decisive margin.

The Republicans have done nearly as much damage to their own party as they have done to the country and world at large.

Now and then there is a politcal, cultural or economic event that shifts the balance of power for decades. The Great Depression shifted power to the Democrats, and it lasted for a very long time. The cultural turmoil of the Sixties shifted power to the Republicans and it has lasted for a long time too.

I think maybe the discontent of the last eight years, with the war, with ignoring important issues like global climate change, with decling wages and other economic issues, with a overblown debt and deficit --- I think maybe this decade is going to be one that Democrats will use to punish Republicans for years to come. Republicans held control of all branches of government for most of this time and they drove the country into a ditch. They cut their own throats with their incompetence. They are done.


I just wanna say bravo! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: well said :)

[Pinkfloydfan1973]

McCain/Palin because I'm pretty sure OBAMA is a socialist... He wants to take our guns away and punish success with wealth redistribution.... SOCIALISM!!! Nothing kills an economy like socialistic policies... (Russia anyone...China, before capitalism)
Like I care if MJ is legal, I don't need to light up in public... The war on drugs is standing on it's last legs anyway... Mexico just passed a bill legalizing MJ Coke and most other drugs in "personal" amounts....(still to be signed into law by Mexico's prez) If it ends up being a smart decision maybe the US will kill the War on Drugs....Legalization will happen soon enough...

In the meantime, We don't need a racist socialist dictating policy handed down to him by the likes of George Soros and William Ayers... just to name a couple. If you think your freedoms are being chipped away now...Look to China to see what socialism/communism will do for ya. Personally if Obama is elected I'm going out and stocking up on Ammo... might be my last chance.

[MissDaMeaner]

McCain/Palin because I'm pretty sure OBAMA is a socialist... He wants to take our guns away and punish success with wealth redistribution.... SOCIALISM!!! Nothing kills an economy like socialistic policies... (Russia anyone...China, before capitalism)


Just curious what you call the bailout? Capitalism or Free Enterprise?
I call it Socialism without any of the benefits.

[justanotherbozo]

Just curious what you call the bailout? Capitalism or Free Enterprise?
I call it Socialism without any of the benefits.

you know, i didn't hear him say 'bailout', do you mean the bailout of the
American economy? the one we were all forced to swallow or suffer a
depression?

you want to talk 'bailout', you should be talking to Barney Frank and Chris
Dodd, just to name a couple

[linearvermin]

Stayin' at home that day haha. Ron Paul was my vote, and i don't support oboma or macain so no point to vote.

[Revanche21]

Staying at home is not an excuse!

get yourself subscribed to absentee ballot! (I myself have permanently)

so I never have to wait in lines :)

[Revanche21]

Just curious what you call the bailout? Capitalism or Free Enterprise?
I call it Socialism without any of the benefits.

Socialist bailout for stupid capitalists

[silkyblue]

Barack Obama rocks out dude


Pots legal in Alaska but

if Mac croaks

Sarah will make it legal all over America

please

[happiestmferoutthere]

I read today McCain has a 3.7 % chance of winning. But... keep hoping guys. Anythings possible!:jointsmile:

[happiestmferoutthere]

I read today McCain has a 3.7 % chance of winning. But... keep hoping guys. Anythings possible!:jointsmile:
Oh, but I forgot... He's got 'em right where he wants 'em! I don't think the strategy is working!:thumbsup:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I read today McCain has a 3.7 % chance of winning. But... keep hoping guys. Anythings possible!:jointsmile:


but of course! rigging elections is no sweat!


seriously, why are we playing "vote for the guy who will screw us over for the next 4-8 years"?

can anyone tell me why we are voting for a president instead of working toward universal public liberty, freedom, independence, and sovereignty?


why do we seek a better prison rather than outright freedom???

[happiestmferoutthere]

but of course! rigging elections is no sweat!


seriously, why are we playing "vote for the guy who will screw us over for the next 4-8 years"?

can anyone tell me why we are voting for a president instead of working toward universal public liberty, freedom, independence, and sovereignty?


why do we seek a better prison rather than outright freedom???
Don' ask me! I didn't invent the damn system!!
I just got here.;)
Maybe someday. America has a lot of growing up to do. Maybe this is a start.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Don' ask me! I didn't invent the damn system!!
I just got here.;)
Maybe someday. America has a lot of growing up to do. Maybe this is a start.


It's jsut funny, isnt it, how everyone doesnt like the system, and yet everyone is unwilling to work towards changing it...


Funny is it not, how we all agree that a better system is needed, a system that meets the needs of the individuals of the society, and not just the finances, and yet we're still working our asses off to support this flawed system, we work harder to, indirectly or not, promote an ineffective system rater than working together, addressing our actual needs, and doing something about it, regardless of money or politics!


it's that simple, yet why arent we doing that?!

[silkyblue]

Americas got problems with the money system dah
solve the out dated way we carry, save nickels and friggin dimes


Europe can help America MORE THAN THEY DO and other countries

Europe found this country let them solve Americas stupid problems

or offer some stinkin help, middle class is loosing out the yang with this stock shit drop


healthcare is silliness

$$ 5 grand for a 'stress test' is way oer the top

You can buy a stinking treadmill for $700.00 measly stinky dolllars at Wal-MART


dam jackrabbits in Washington

it ain workin peeps

CHANGE IS GOOD

[flyingimam]

dam jackrabbits in Washington

it ain workin peeps

CHANGE IS GOOD

Despite my support for Obama, lets be realistic, Politics is perhaps the strongest evil in the world that can turn a virgin Merry to the sneakiest/meanest charlatan, change could be really useful right now, lets just hope a politician can actually stick with and carry his promises. again thats why I rather leave my emotions behind the door, Obama is a human and a politician and can very well fail like any other failed promise, depending on too many factors in n out of his control.


Politics and power are always the most tempting devil, far far stronger than money or drugs or any other thing (although power could include and mean many of these other lesser evils)

1. Change could be good and a good one is NEEDED right now, i doubt anyone from either of the sides can dispute that we are in dire need of some drastic change in our system, economics and policies. unless u r carrying a sticker on your bumper that not just says u supports the troops (this is the OK part to me), but also says we support our president*... thats a dumb loyalist to me

2. Let's hope he remains who he is now

*believe it or not, I saw one shiny (brand new looking) sticker of this kind on back of a Ford Excursion with an old white guy in it just yesterday, wonder what idiot will so proudly support this president at such a time when hardly anyone really talks about the guy in a supportive manner, not even his old friends and his party... that just speaks to their wisdom if they got such a thing at all!

[silkyblue]

My name is silkyblu and
I approve your post flying






Legalise the plant too

[reefabuser22]

Mccain all day. that rebgirl on the first page made my night sayin anyone but obama im with you. GO RALPH NADER but reality always wins so lets go McCain. Man look at where they stand please dont vote off hype.:thumbsup:

[thcbongman]

I finally decided.

It's gonna be Obama. Initially I was leaning towards John McCain, but as the campaign kept going, it kept getting increasing negative and it seems the presidency to him is more in self-interest than the greater good of country.

I am not fond of Obama at all. Perhaps this vote I cast I will regret, but there is 1 reason why Obama has my vote.

1. Willingness to listen. Barack Obama is more inclined to listen to different points of views and accept those opinions as valid in order to make a decision. A man that can listen is a man more adaptable to oversee change. A man who is willing to sit down use diplomacy, even with our enemies is a man that can oversee change. I do not want another 8 years of one Bush with a bunch of yes men. Let's have a diverse administration for once.

[daihashi]

I finally decided.

[QUOTE]It's gonna be Obama. Initially I was leaning towards John McCain, but as the campaign kept going, it kept getting increasing negative and it seems the presidency to him is more in self-interest than the greater good of country.

Is it negativity or is he bringing to light things that the media is choosing to ignore. The same media that will opt to report on something as irrelevant as Sarah Palin's Wardrobe. There are many questionable associations on Obama's side; none of which that have been thoroughly or clearly explained.

I suppose know what a person is like outside of a campaign is not important?

Everything else that everyone says is negative I view as being information that should be investigated.

Obama hasn't had to run a negative campaign because the media has been doing all the negative attacks on their own. Must be nice to have an attack dog on your side (Obama).


I am not fond of Obama at all. Perhaps this vote I cast I will regret, but there is 1 reason why Obama has my vote.

1. Willingness to listen. Barack Obama is more inclined to listen to different points of views and accept those opinions as valid in order to make a decision. A man that can listen is a man more adaptable to oversee change. A man who is willing to sit down use diplomacy, even with our enemies is a man that can oversee change. I do not want another 8 years of one Bush with a bunch of yes men. Let's have a diverse administration for once.

Well a person can say whatever they want. Look at his time in the senate instead. Has Obama even attempted to do much of what he's saying? Does he have a history to suggest that he's a person that's open to listening (he's voted alongside party majority leaders 100% of the time). To me that doesn't sound like he's listening to anything except what his party has to say.

I don't know. Obviously you're free to vote for who you choose but Obama seems to be the exact opposite of what he claims he is or what he's going to do.

McCain is not really who I want either; but at least I have some history to go on and some of that history I do agree with.

[thcbongman]

[quote=thcbongman]I finally decided.



Is it negativity or is he bringing to light things that the media is choosing to ignore. The same media that will opt to report on something as irrelevant as Sarah Palin's Wardrobe. There are many questionable associations on Obama's side; none of which that have been thoroughly or clearly explained.

I suppose know what a person is like outside of a campaign is not important?

Everything else that everyone says is negative I view as being information that should be investigated.

Obama hasn't had to run a negative campaign because the media has been doing all the negative attacks on their own. Must be nice to have an attack dog on your side (Obama).



Well a person can say whatever they want. Look at his time in the senate instead. Has Obama even attempted to do much of what he's saying? Does he have a history to suggest that he's a person that's open to listening (he's voted alongside party majority leaders 100% of the time). To me that doesn't sound like he's listening to anything except what his party has to say.

I don't know. Obviously you're free to vote for who you choose but Obama seems to be the exact opposite of what he claims he is or what he's going to do.

McCain is not really who I want either; but at least I have some history to go on and some of that history I do agree with.

I agree with you. I don't think the media has been very fair to McCain. However, McCain's campaigning style hurt him some along with the media's love affair for Obama. The RNC used the same playbook as the 2000 and 2004 campaign to heavily attacks opponents on character weaknesses rather than highlight the positives of what he can accomplish.

As far as Obama's associations, if there was any clear motive of malice or espionage, they wouldn't let him serve on the committee of homeland security and governmental affairs, they couldn't grant him the required clearance to serve on many of the committees he served. These associations should be considered, but I don't think they are substanciated enough. Much of it is a few facts that are heavily theorized to show Obama's views are Anti-American. Until I see something factual, like Obama partaking in a marxist gathering or there was fact that Obama was engaging in treasonous crimes, I simply can't put much weight on these associations.

As far as Obama's willingness to listen, in the sense of his voting record, McCain is more proven to cross party lines while Obama record shown he's not. Obama clearly talks more than walks. However the fundamental aspect is usage of diplomacy. Obama's willingness to open diplomatic channels will earn more respect with the world and will help America better understand the conflicts we are getting into. McCain views diplomacy as a concession rather than necessary. In addition, McCain is a guy who wants less oversight and accountability when it comes to government affairs. This isn't to say Obama isn't transparent because I think he has an agenda as well, but McCain's is clear. The military-industrial complex needs to be reduced and McCain's policy will continue to increase spending to defense when we have bigger fish to fry.

I don't think Obama will follow through on many of his promises and that he'll be ultra liberal. I think Obama's policies will impend the ability of corporations to grow and he will not reduce government spending. I'm just hoping republicans take some seats in both the house and senate to balance it out. It's due to the sensitivity of an impending financial crisis which will require America to cooperate and engage the world, we need someone who's willing to take this role, and that'll be Obama. If I had to choose between these two devils, I'll choose Barack Obama.

[epilepticme]

Finally after much internal debate and turmoil, I have decided to vote for Chuck Baldwin.
Dr. Paul's recent endorsement is enough to sway me away from playing keep away from McCain (going the lesser of two evils route).

I live in NY and predict an Obama landslide here! Which is Ok because McCain loses and the war ends soon (maybe). Not OK because more of the same old tax and spend government with Obama.



I am voting for Liberty,Freedom and the Constitution!

Chuck Baldwin

[Gatekeeper777]

The Nugent!

Fuck yeah! I seen him and ZZ Top in concert and it was fantastic. He shot a bow through Saddams cardboard head.

Unfortunately teddy is a hard liner government tool when it comes to weed.
he thinks all smokers should go to jail.

[dragonrider]

Unfortunately teddy is a hard liner government tool when it comes to weed.
he thinks all smokers should go to jail.

I voted today for Obama!

[Gatekeeper777]

I did notice that all CNN ( Censored NEWS Network) is talking about is MCCain and OBAMA I never heard a word about third party. what a flippin shame everyone!
A political injustice!