Sarah Palin is McCain's VP pick

[khronik]

McCain picks Alaska Gov. Palin as running mate - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/index.html)

Well there's a transparent political move if I ever saw one. McCain is trying to attract Hillary Clinton's supporters, and not the Republican base. Oooh, I bet a few people here will be pretty pissed. This lack of enthusiasm among Republicans will only get worse now.

[epilepticme]

John McCain chose Sarah Palin Republican Gov. of Alaska as his running mate.

Anyone know her position on Medical Cannabis?

[veggii]

I do believe its good as Alaska is pro MMJ and has been for-ever ....:jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

that may be a bit optimistic, she is a Christian mother of five, and the Republican's 'fast-rising star' ... I would suspect she's every bit as anti-pot as McCain, etc... :(

[beachguy in thongs]

According to Wikipedia, Ms. Palin smoked marijuana, when it was legal in her state, but didn't like it.

[SnSstealth]

that may be a bit optimistic, she is a Christian mother of five, and the Republican's 'fast-rising star' ... I would suspect she's every bit as anti-pot as McCain, etc... :(

what he said.....
whiskeytango

[epilepticme]

I found a reference saying that she tried cannabis when it was legal in Alaska.
Seems as though she was some kind of outdoor guide or ran some kind of sporting goods outdoor equipment store?

Heck ya never know maybe she is one stoney chick????

[epilepticme]

from wiki:
Details of Palin's personal life have contributed to her political image. She hunts, eats moose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose) hamburger, ice fishes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_fishing), rides snowmobiles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowmobile), and owns a float plane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Float_plane).[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#cite_note-Barnes-11)[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#cite_note-Arnold-54) Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association). She admits that she used marijuana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana) when it was legal in Alaska, but says that she did not like it.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#cite_note-Hopkins-8)

I think I might want to get to know some more about this chick. Still not enough to make me want to vote for McCain though.

[McDanger]

Well there's a transparent political move if I ever saw one. McCain is trying to attract Hillary Clinton's supporters, and not the Republican base. Oooh, I bet a few people here will be pretty pissed. This lack of enthusiasm among Republicans will only get worse now.[/QUOTE]

Why would we be pissed, this is a GREAT pick. Listen to the talk radio shows today if you don't think so.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Bill Clinton approves of this pick. :thumbsup:


That's supposed to be his little thumb motion he always does.

[the image reaper]

listening now to her speech on the radio ... radio hosts 'Armstrong and Getty' just mentioned she has an '80% approval rating' in Alaska ... they also commented that "no matter which way the election goes, we're gonna have either a female VP, or a black president, history made" ... :smokin:

[8182KSKUSH]

Regardless of her "cannabis position" she seems like one bad ass chick!
If she did indeed try cannabis, and just didn't like it so what? I would think that it would have been news here if a newly elected governor of AK had an agenda against cannabis. So maybe, maybe, she is tolerant, and respectful of peoples choice to use it FOR ANY REASON THEY WANT BE IT MEDICAL OR OTHERWISE!
It is a big red flag though, for cannabis anyway, to be a "fast rising star in the GOP". That gives me some caution. However, if she is really really conservative, (as opposed to just being a "republican"),then I would bet even if she personally does not use or like it, that she would not be supportive of legislating against it. We will soon see though! All in all seems to be an excellent choice. Hell not knowing much more about her than what has been posted, I am half inclined to have her as president over McCain!:D

[Psycho4Bud]

McCain picks Alaska Gov. Palin as running mate - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/index.html)

Well there's a transparent political move if I ever saw one. McCain is trying to attract Hillary Clinton's supporters, and not the Republican base. Oooh, I bet a few people here will be pretty pissed. This lack of enthusiasm among Republicans will only get worse now.

LMAO! Now McCain is a lock! The snubbing that Clinton took from the DNC and Obama pissed off alot of the women voters, NOW they have a person to vote for. GREAT MOVE on the part of McCain. :thumbsup:

Obama had the perfect opportunity to lock the election with the nomination of Clinton....now he doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. Husband is a union member, son just joined the service and is off to Iraq soon.....DAMN, what a choice!!:D

Have a good one!:s4:

[the image reaper]

her short Bio:

Sarah Palin Seen as GOP Rising Star - America’s Election HQ (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-seen-as-gop-rising-star/)

[the image reaper]

LMAO! Now McCain is a lock! The snubbing that Clinton took from the DNC and Obama pissed off alot of the women voters, NOW they have a person to vote for. GREAT MOVE on the part of McCain. :thumbsup:

Obama had the perfect opportunity to lock the election with the nomination of Clinton....now he doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. Husband is a union member, son just joined the service and is off to Iraq soon.....DAMN, what a choice!!:D

Have a good one!:s4:

I couldn't agree more, great explanation from P4B, too :thumbsup:

[8182KSKUSH]

Just a pic so you know whom she is. I am not saying that it matters that she is really good looking, but WOW!

[Sir Bliss]

She's one sexy 44 year old.

And who cares if she's pro-weed (which she's not). McCain is anti-marijuana. Plain and simple.

The Republican party has offically become desperate. What better way to offset McCain's negative attributes then selecting a VP who seems completely opposite of him in a number of ways. It seems the Republican party can't rely on the old "experience issue" anymore. Just imagine if McCain died in office. Sarah Palin...President? Yikes..

She's still hot though.

[killerweed420]

It seems rather odd that McCain would pick someone from Alaska with all the corruption charges swirling around there senators and who knows who else. Doesn't seem like a smart choice but then the repubs don't really have many good choices for VP.

[killerweed420]

Yeah but is she tainted with corruption like her good buddy senator?

[khronik]

LMAO! Now McCain is a lock! The snubbing that Clinton took from the DNC and Obama pissed off alot of the women voters, NOW they have a person to vote for. GREAT MOVE on the part of McCain. :thumbsup:

Obama had the perfect opportunity to lock the election with the nomination of Clinton....now he doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. Husband is a union member, son just joined the service and is off to Iraq soon.....DAMN, what a choice!!:D

Have a good one!:s4:
So Obama doesn't have enough experience to be President but Sarah Palin does? I'd like to see him try and argue that one.

Come November, I'll bump this thread, and then you can try and explain why President-elect Obama didn't have a snowball's chance in hell. ;)

[RobPA]

Solidifies my vote for the Mccain ticket. Excellant Choice, Ive always liked her. Deffenitely MILF material :thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

a 'phony-ass liar' will win, regardless of party affiliation :wtf:, and Obama was toast even before McCain picked Palin :D ... Obama will go down in flames, watch and see ... (just this old fart's opinion, of course) :jointsmile:

[RobPA]

So Obama doesn't have enough experience to be President but Sarah Palin does? I'd like to see him try and argue that one.

Come November, I'll bump this thread, and then you can try and explain why President-elect Obama didn't have a snowball's chance in hell. ;)




Great post p4B!!! As i stated in the other thread this deffenitely locks in my vote for Mccain. And Khronik, I'll make sure to bump this thread for you when your hiding in your corner when your chosen one dosent get elected!

[theforthdrive]

i was kinda shocked that they chose her because repbs. cried about the race cards and obama's inexperience. and they pull the gender card with an inexperienced unknown person. Seems pretty transparent to me. lets just say I added another reason to be disappointed at what my voter registration card says! and Im even more thoroughly convinced that the two party system is a sham and not healthy for America!

[Psycho4Bud]

So Obama doesn't have enough experience to be President but Sarah Palin does? I'd like to see him try and argue that one.

Is Palin running for President? No, McCain is and HE DOES have the experience needed for THAT position. As for Obama, when the phone rings at 3:00A.M. is Biden going to answer it? I sure hope so with Obama's "so called" experience for his stint in the state legislature and his limited time in Senate.

LMAO!!! Bill Clinton was saying at the convention that he to was accused of not having the experience just because he was only the Governor of Arkansas; now here we are only two days later with the Obama camp stating that being the Governor of Alaska doesn't have the experience to be a heart beat away? You just know that Bill and Hillary are laughing their asses off at Obama right now.

Oh yeah, PLEASE bump the thread......LOL.....I'll find it most amusing.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

[allrollsin21]

Things have not looked this good for the republicans in a long time...

[rebgirl420]

I like her and I'll be glad to vote for McCain/Palin.

I always wanted to vote for a woman but couldn't grit my teeth long enough to even fathom Clinton. A strong Republican woman is a fantastic pick!

[dragonrider]

It seems like Sarah Palin completely negates the experience argument against Obama, which is really the only argument that was getting any traction against him. If the experience issue was really that important to the McCain campaign, then why did they get someone with such thin experience? A year and a half as governor, not even one full 2-year term yet? And mayor of a small town before that?

That's surprising. The Obama campaign must be pleased about that.

And this is not going to pull the Hillary voters in. Hillary supporters were not just voting for a vagina. Hell, we've had a pair of boobs in the White House for 8 years, and you can be sure the Hillary voters were not supporting them. It's not about anatomy. They supported Hillary on issues, and Palin could not be farther away from Hillary on issues. They supported Hillary because she was qualified and was a woman who got so close to being nominated in a hard fought campaign, a woman who earned consideration. She wasn't lifted out of nowhere and offered up as a token female to draw in female voters. Certainly Palin is no where near as qualified to be president as Hillary was. It may well be insulting to Hillary voters if that is what this play is about.

The one thing she does bring is appeal to conservatives. I was hoping McCain would not have to pander to the evangelicals and pro-life social conservatives. That is the part of the Republican party that I cannot stand. But she might appeal to tha faction.

She is such an unknown that we'll have to spend some time finding out who she is and what her qualifications are. Has she ever been out of the country? Does she have any economic experience? Any national security experience?

McCain is 72 today, has a history of cancer, and he has a real chance of dying in office. This should have been a more serious choice.

It's far too early to say, but I think Sarah Palin may have been a bad choice.

[rebgirl420]

It seems like Sarah Palin completely negates the experience argument against Obama, which is really the only argument that was getting any traction against him. If the experience issue was really that important to the McCain campaign, then why did they get someone with such thin experience? A year and a half as governor, not even one full 2-year term yet? And mayor of a small town before that?

That's surprising. The Obama campaign must be pleased about that.

And this is not going to pull the Hillary voters in. Hillary supporters were not just voting for a vagina. Hell, we've had a pair of boobs in the White House for 8 years, and you can be sure the Hillary voters were not supporting them. It's not about anatomy. They supported Hillary on issues, and Palin could not be farther away from Hillary on issues. They supported Hillary because she was qualified and was a woman who got so close to being nominated in a hard fought campaign, a woman who earned consideration. She wasn't lifted out of nowhere and offered up as a token female to draw in female voters. Certainly Palin is no where near as qualified to be president as Hillary was. It may well be insulting to Hillary voters if that is what this play is about.

The one thing she does bring is appeal to conservatives. I was hoping McCain would not have to pander to the evangelicals and pro-life social conservatives. That is the part of the Republican party that I cannot stand. But she might appeal to tha faction.

She is such an unknown that we'll have to spend some time finding out who she is and what her qualifications are. Has she ever been out of the country? Does she have any economic experience? Any national security experience?

McCain is 72 today, has a history of cancer, and he has a real chance of dying in office. This should have been a more serious choice.

It's far too early to say, but I think Sarah Palin may have been a bad choice.

Obama has an equal if not bigger chance of being knocked off/dying in office! And who does he pick? Biden!?

I dunno, Biden doesn't seem like that big of an element of change if you ask me! And isn't THAT what the whole Obama campaign is all about?

[BigWeed]

Is Palin running for President? No, McCain is and HE DOES have the experience needed for THAT position. As for Obama, when the phone rings at 3:00A.M. is Biden going to answer it? I sure hope so with Obama's "so called" experience for his stint in the state legislature and his limited time in Senate.

LMAO!!! Bill Clinton was saying at the convention that he to was accused of not having the experience just because he was only the Governor of Arkansas; now here we are only two days later with the Obama camp stating that being the Governor of Alaska doesn't have the experience to be a heart beat away? You just know that Bill and Hillary are laughing their asses off at Obama right now.

Oh yeah, PLEASE bump the thread......LOL.....I'll find it most amusing.:D

Have a good one!:s4:
Hey P4B Bill was gov for 2 terms and in poltics longer than she was. She only been Gov for 2 years. If Mccain kicks the bucket in office are you willing to let someone with NOOOOOOOO Experiance at all run this country. Im not gonna bet my kids future on it. And if you think Hiilarys supporters are going to vote for McCain and Palin because she's a woman your wrong they where voting for clinton because she has the experiance to lead.Im a tell you this If Hillary had won the primary and Im a strong supporter of Obama I would still cast my vote for Hillary. And to all those who vote for McCain and say they are Democrats I call BS you where never Democrats you where Repubilcans in sheeps clothing.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[khronik]

Is Palin running for President? No, McCain is and HE DOES have the experience needed for THAT position. As for Obama, when the phone rings at 3:00A.M. is Biden going to answer it? I sure hope so with Obama's "so called" experience for his stint in the state legislature and his limited time in Senate.

LMAO!!! Bill Clinton was saying at the convention that he to was accused of not having the experience just because he was only the Governor of Arkansas; now here we are only two days later with the Obama camp stating that being the Governor of Alaska doesn't have the experience to be a heart beat away? You just know that Bill and Hillary are laughing their asses off at Obama right now.

Oh yeah, PLEASE bump the thread......LOL.....I'll find it most amusing.:D

Have a good one!:s4:
The Obama camp isn't saying that Palin doesn't have the experience to be president, but the fact that McCain chose her does make his best argument against Obama a lot less effective.

I can just imagine McCain being asked "Is Sarah Palin ready to be president?" and then followed up with "Is Obama?"

[daihashi]

The Obama camp isn't saying that Palin doesn't have the experience to be president, but the fact that McCain chose her does make his best argument against Obama a lot less effective.

I'm not sure if you heard but, Palin isn't running for president. The VP spot historically has not required the same strenuous demand as president. Matter of fact for a short time in our history Several presidents ran and were elected to Office without a VP running mate.

So comparing a VP pick to a presidential candidate is a bit silly. If you want to do that then let's look at Biden. He has a WORLD of experience. In all honestly he's more qualified to be president than Obama is. Doesn't that look bad in itself when your VP is a better candidate than you are?


I can just imagine McCain being asked "Is Sarah Palin ready to be president?" and then followed up with "Is Obama?"

Again, Palin isn't running for president, John McCain is.

[BigWeed]

Obama has an equal if not bigger chance of being knocked off/dying in office! And who does he pick? Biden!?

I dunno, Biden doesn't seem like that big of an element of change if you ask me! And isn't THAT what the whole Obama campaign is all about?

Im sorry Rebgirl but Ill take Biden over Palin to run the country then her. Ill take Condie or Hutchison over her. If he would have picked one of those two I whouldnt have a problem with that but Palin bad JUGDEMENT...:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[theforthdrive]

Palin isn't running for president. The VP spot historically has not required the same strenuous demand as president.
Again, Palin isn't running for president, John McCain is.

I agree with you but Dick made great strides to gain power for the office of the VP. So, there is a fair amount of power for Palin. also, I believe there is a more serious risk of McCain dying than in past presidential elections where I would look more seriously at the VP because they have a real chance of becoming the pres.

[Psycho4Bud]

The Obama camp isn't saying that Palin doesn't have the experience to be president

In a written statement, a spokeswoman for Obama said McCain would "put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."
KVOA News 4, Tucson, Arizona - Obama camp says Palin lacks experience (http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=8922654&nav=HMO6HMaY)

Ah, yes they are. Fact is that she has negotiated with Russia on fishing rights and also with Canada regarding some roads. She has also been to Iraq the same amount of times as Obama.

Face it my friend, she is the stake that killed the Vampire called Obama.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

[BigWeed]

I'm not sure if you heard but, Palin isn't running for president. The VP spot historically has not required the same strenuous demand as president. Matter of fact for a short time in our history Several presidents ran and were elected to Office without a VP running mate.

So comparing a VP pick to a presidential candidate is a bit silly. If you want to do that then let's look at Biden. He has a WORLD of experience. In all honestly he's more qualified to be president than Obama is. Doesn't that look bad in itself when your VP is a better candidate than you are?



Again, Palin isn't running for president, John McCain is.

Man Daihashi Im not saying shes running for president but this guy could kick the bucket and then she would be in power Im scared.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[Psycho4Bud]

Hey P4B Bill was gov for 2 terms and in poltics longer than she was. She only been Gov for 2 years. If Mccain kicks the bucket in office are you willing to let someone with NOOOOOOOO Experiance at all run this country. Im not gonna bet my kids future on it. And if you think Hiilarys supporters are going to vote for McCain and Palin because she's a woman your wrong they where voting for clinton because she has the experiance to lead.

I'd rather take the chance on that then leave my children in the hands of a person with ties to racists and terrorists. Obama was a piss poor choice by the DNC.

As for the women voters, the same way that you saw the black vote go to Obama in the range of 90% + you'll see the same with this choice. When mothers start to shake her hand and find out a bit of her past they'll relate and then vote. Soccer mother of 5 that's intelligent, strong will, and has a disabled child; just pulling at the heart strings of moms everywhere. 18,000,000 voters may have cracked the glass ceiling but she busted through...LOL.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[Garrett]

a 'phony-ass liar' will win, regardless of party affiliation :wtf:, and Obama was toast even before McCain picked Palin :D ... Obama will go down in flames, watch and see ... (just this old fart's opinion, of course) :jointsmile:

Exactly why I think Obama will be elected as President. I think a lot more younger people are ready for a different type of president who will focus on our counrty first and not trying to control the world.

You can't come out of being a POV fine, McCain served our country but anyone held that long doesnt come out straight minded.

Just my 2 cents.

[daihashi]

Man Daihashi Im not saying shes running for president but this guy could kick the bucket and then she would be in power Im scared.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

You're scared because of her inexperience? Then why are you behind Obama?

[BigWeed]

In a written statement, a spokeswoman for Obama said McCain would "put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."
KVOA News 4, Tucson, Arizona - Obama camp says Palin lacks experience (http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=8922654&nav=HMO6HMaY)

Ah, yes they are. Fact is that she has negotiated with Russia on fishing rights and also with Canada regarding some roads. She has also been to Iraq the same amount of times as Obama.

Face it my friend, she is the stake that killed the Vampire called Obama.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

Fishing rights, Roads LAMFO come on man you got to do better than that. Just vote for me BigWeed we can all get high in the white house.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[Psycho4Bud]

Fishing rights, Roads LAMFO come on man you got to do better than that. Just vote for me BigWeed we can all get high in the white house.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

At least she's done SOMETHING...more than Obama. She's just the number 2, on the job training is more suited for such a position.

Have a good one!:s4:

[BigWeed]

You're scared because of her inexperience? Then why are you behind Obama?


I just know he can get the job done. I am scared of McCain to because he aint gonna do nothing for me. All I see with McCain is my savings going down the drain my kids college funds going down the drain and everything I worked hard for going down the drain. Im going to tell you the truth put Obama to side and McCain to side I DONT WANT A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT AGAIN!!!!!!!! ENOUGH:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[rebgirl420]

Fishing rights, Roads LAMFO come on man you got to do better than that. Just vote for me BigWeed we can all get high in the white house.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

How innapropriate of a statement. Reagan wouldn't even take off his jacket in the oval office for christs sake.

At least she's done something. Obama has done nearly next to nothing politically.

[BigWeed]

How innapropriate of a statement. Reagan wouldn't even take off his jacket in the oval office for christs sake.

At least she's done something. Obama has done nearly next to nothing politically.

So all the work hes done in the Illinois state senate is nothing or even the US senate is nothing come on.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[allrollsin21]

I'll admit i would have rather had Palin running on the GW ticket instead of Cheney. There would likely be a lot more people living in the Middle East. They are humans too. God Bless the WORLD

[rebgirl420]

He failed the first time he ran for senate!

He's only been there since 97' and Palin was there since 92'. That's 5 years differance! What about all the work she's done?

[8182KSKUSH]

IR was right, as I have posted before, this will easily be the largest margin of victory since 1980 with Reagan, and that was waaay before this brilliant pick! Now, you can chisel it in stone!
It's extremely amusing to hear libs bag on her "experience" as a reason to not vote for McCain, when their nominee arguably has less experience than she does! NIce! Now all we have to do is sit back and watch the liberal left bury Obama with his own shovel!:D:D:D:D:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thum bsup:

[texas grass]

what a funny pick, no experience, is for drilling, not environment friendly,

the funniest dummest thing i heard her say is vote for me cause im a woman. lmao lol what a joke

we will see more of the bs we have seen for the past 8 yrs with mccain/palin if not it will probibly be worse off than bush

[RobPA]

Seeing all these Arguments and varying opinions is really nice to see. People Generalize us Cannabis users as a bunch of Treehugging Hippies (Nothing against you Treehugging hippies, you are cool peeps :thumbsup:) But over the past couple years here it has been awesome to see so much Political Diversity on here. I am 26 and I guess im right on the limit of being a "Young Voter". Those who have said Hillary Clinton Supporters wont change just because of her, well I disagree. I dont know if I mentioned this in another thread but I was getting my mail today and had a great discussion with my neighbor, she is a democrat and was a staunch hillary supporter and felt screwed by her party and wasent exactly a huge fan of Obama Not to mention her Husband is a Marine and Vietnam vet, Mccains pick today was the nail in the coffin for her personally and she is going with Mccain along with her husband. I got so tired of looking at her Hillary Signs in the window and her yard so It will be nice with our Matching Mccain/Palin signs. :thumbsup:

[BigWeed]

He failed the first time he ran for senate!

He's only been there since 97' and Palin was there since 92'. That's 5 years differance! What about all the work she's done?

Barack Hussein Obama II (pronounced /bəˈrɑːk hʊˈseɪn oʊˈbɑːmə/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English); born August 4, 1961) is the nominee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominee) of the Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)) for the office of President of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) in the 2008 general election (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008). He is the first African American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American) to be a major political party's nominee for this office. Obama is currently the junior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Seniority) United States Senator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senator) from Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois).
A graduate of Columbia University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University) and Harvard Law School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Law_School), where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Law_Review), Obama worked as a community organizer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing) and practiced as a civil rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights) attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Senate) from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_law) at the University of Chicago Law School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago_Law_School) from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._House_of_Representatives) in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Democratic_National_Convention) in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.
As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/109th_Congress), he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_weapons) and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_Congress), he helped create legislation regarding lobbying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States) and electoral fraud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud), climate change (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitigation_of_global_warming), nuclear terrorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_terrorism), and care for returned U.S. military personnel. After announcing his presidential campaign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_campaign,_2008) in February 2007, Obama emphasized withdrawing American troops from Iraq, energy independence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._energy_independence), decreasing the influence of lobbyists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States), and promoting universal health care (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care#United_States) as top national priorities.

Fishing rights and Roads and you call this something she has done. Compared to creating legislation for weapons, lobbying, electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorisom, oh yeah and care for returned US milatary personnel.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp: I can get more info.

[RobPA]

what a funny pick, no experience, is for drilling, not environment friendly,

the funniest dummest thing i heard her say is vote for me cause im a woman. lmao lol what a joke

we will see more of the bs we have seen for the past 8 yrs with mccain/palin if not it will probibly be worse off than bush


Are you kidding me??? This is one of the most ridiculous statements I have heard. She has a ton of Environmental Experience and is an Avid wildlife enthusiast. If theres any argument against her man the ENVIRONMENTAL one is one that she cant be attacked over.

[8182KSKUSH]

Barack Hussein Obama II (pronounced /bəˈrɑːk hʊˈseɪn oʊˈbɑːmə/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English); born August 4, 1961) is the nominee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominee) of the Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)) for the office of President of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) in the 2008 general election (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008). He is the first African American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American) to be a major political party's nominee for this office. Obama is currently the junior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Seniority) United States Senator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senator) from Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois).
A graduate of Columbia University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University) and Harvard Law School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Law_School), where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Law_Review), Obama worked as a community organizer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing) and practiced as a civil rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights) attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Senate) from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_law) at the University of Chicago Law School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago_Law_School) from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._House_of_Representatives) in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Democratic_National_Convention) in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.
As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/109th_Congress), he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_weapons) and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_Congress), he helped create legislation regarding lobbying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States) and electoral fraud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud), climate change (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitigation_of_global_warming), nuclear terrorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_terrorism), and care for returned U.S. military personnel. After announcing his presidential campaign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_campaign,_2008) in February 2007, Obama emphasized withdrawing American troops from Iraq, energy independence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._energy_independence), decreasing the influence of lobbyists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States), and promoting universal health care (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care#United_States) as top national priorities.

Fishing rights and Roads and you call this something she has done. Compared to creating legislation for weapons, lobbying, electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorisom, oh yeah and care for returned US milatary personnel.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp: I can get more info.

Being a member of a committee and voting for something, does not mean that HE HIMSELF PUSHED FOR, CREATED, OR DESERVES SOLE CREDIT FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS MENTIONED. He did not draft the legislation, they were not his original ideas, he jumped on board.
And what's really funny, this is probably the best that can be said as to his, "accomplishments".
Laughable.
"I won't vote for McCain because I think his vp has too little experience."
Really?
So what would qualify as "enough experience" to RUN FOR PRESIDENT, nevermind the vp slot.
LMFAO
After you answer that, then justify voting for Obama, the man of next to nill experience.
Like I said, bury him with his own shovel!:thumbsup:

[8182KSKUSH]

Think about this.
I doubt that McCain will run for a 2nd term, so in 2012 whom do you think will run against the Billary Beast.;)
Yeah that's what I thought too. Now she is really fucked! The Clintons better start to prep Chelsea if they want to have another Clinton in office.:D

[rebgirl420]

Are you kidding me??? This is one of the most ridiculous statements I have heard. She has a ton of Environmental Experience and is an Avid wildlife enthusiast. If theres any argument against her man the ENVIRONMENTAL one is one that she cant be attacked over.

Exactly! He names 3 things she's done like thats ALL she has done in 16/17 years.

Hoopla I say!

[inbud]

I do not think Clinton's Women Supporters will vote for McCain because of these three words..(funny no one has mentioned this when speaking of Hillery Women Supporters
ROE VS. WADE
a couple more words
Supreme Court

[BigWeed]

How innapropriate of a statement. Reagan wouldn't even take off his jacket in the oval office for christs sake.

At least she's done something. Obama has done nearly next to nothing politically.

I want to say Im sorry for that one. My wife didnt think it was funny either. So Rebgirl please forgive me.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[BigWeed]

Exactly! He names 3 things she's done like thats ALL she has done in 16/17 years.

Hoopla I say!

Show me.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[the image reaper]

So all the work hes done in the Illinois state senate is nothing or even the US senate is nothing come on.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

???? .. 'all the work' ??? ... he didn't even know he was on several Illinois House committees (because he couldn't be bothered to appear at any hearings) ... and, the overwhelming majority of his State Senate votes were 'PRESENT' (couldn't commit to anything) ... he is nothing but a bagman for the Chicago Daley Machine, ask any Chicagoan, they know it, it's no secret ... don't get me wrong, I'm NOT happy with the choices this time around, but " ANYBODY BUT OBAMA " will be an anthem I'll be singing :smokin:

[killerweed420]

I always like these debates about experience needed to be president.
The truth is we haven't had anyone with experience of anything but government payroll checks at all. Just because you've been employed by the government most of your life doesn't make you experienced to wash dishes much less be president.
More than anything it boils down to ethics. Who has the moral integrity to run a country and move it forward. Certainly Obama would probably be little more favoured in that area but not by much.
We need to quit electing career politicians. But its hard to find anyone with the guts to run.

[Bong30]

This kicks ASS...

Nobama just pack it in, allready.


She told the govermentr to take the bridge to "NO WHERE" and stick it in there asses...... YES

She cut so much goverment in AK, that AK has a Savings account now...YES

She found out she was having ababy with Down syndrome... and kept it didnt abort.......YES

Life long NRA member............YES

it goes on and on and on..... way better pick than Romney. and I love Romney.

She is going to hand Biden his dumb ass in the debate... man this is going to be good....

Its over......Next

[the image reaper]

the significant fact we're all missing: every President always catches hell for what happens, but the Congress is the real source of the problems ... vote all the bastards out, and start over :thumbsup:

[rebgirl420]

the significant fact we're all missing: every President always catches hell for what happens, but the Congress is the real source of the problems ... vote all the bastards out, and start over :thumbsup:

Fuck yeah.

Throw them all out and start again. Maybe make sure the Libertarians have some better footing.

[allrollsin21]

"We need to quit electing career politicians. But its hard to find anyone with the guts to run."


Killer i could not agree more. Thats the most honest, potently true thing i have heard all day. All this talk about experience...It is experienced politicians who have led the way for America to be facing the problems it faces today. New Blood, New Ideas, Republican, Democrat, I don't care...Oh how i miss Ron Paul.

As far as Palin being an ENVIRONMENTALIST...HA!

You cannot fathom the environmental degradation that building this infamous natural gas pipeline has caused. Imagine a Construction site larger than any you have ever seen...right through the heart of the last of North America's pristine wilderness. For fuel amounts equaling a drop in the bucket...Stop gap measures, designed to keep the wealthiest pockets full, and the resources CENTRALIZED. Being a fisherwoman DOES NOT make one an environmentalist.

[rebgirl420]

^ Go Ron Paul! That's who I'd vote for in a second. If you ask me I think that we need wayyy more Libertarians in the major offices. I'm sick and tired of being a third party and having to choose who I hate less.

That's why I'm voting Libertarian for all the local offices. They have to start from the ground up to get anywhere big.

Poor Ron Paul......I bet he's lonely.

[allrollsin21]

Oh by the way Sarah Palin supports teaching Creationism in Schools.

supports teaching Creationism in Schools. Ya'll get that. Do you know what that means? This is what it means according to Wikipedia.

"Creationism is the religious belief that humanity, life, the Earth, and the universe were created in their original form by a deity (often the Abrahamic God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam) or deities, whose existence is presupposed.[1] In relation to the creation-evolution controversy the term creationism (or strict creationism) is commonly used to refer to religiously-motivated rejection of evolution."

Hmm...

[Bong30]

Like I just Told IR.... I herd she broke all the fingers on ONe Hand while working as a fisherman one summer.... she is tough and HOT:thumbsup:

Mother of 5

oldest going off to war in Iraq

New mother with special needs baby

loves moose burgers

can hunt fish and ride snowmobiles

was Public servant (mayor) for 4 years before Nobama was in Illonios senate

CEO of AK.......(cut spending in own party)

Commander and chief of ak National gaurd..

Has smoked Weed, thats cool. she didnt like it cause she didnt have any good shit....:D

you guys it goes on and on and on


When she wins VP, and the country sees what she is Made of......

Palin vp2012, Prez2016, Prez2020?

[the image reaper]

and, she's possibly one of those horrible Christians, too ??? :wtf: now, I know I like her :D

[Bong30]

Oh by the way Sarah Palin supports teaching Creationism in Schools.

Hmm...




First off, I have to assume you are a product of mass media and public schools, and maybe some college.

You are lock step liberal. I am first, a realist. I used to think in just evolution. Then i started to wonder why they couldnt figure out why we evloved and say....gorilas didnt? I started to think...Maybe there is just something bigger than us??????

So, I came up with creation evolution

I like to think that the "LUCK" the "Natural selection" of us evolving was in the hands of something bigger than us. You might call it natural selection, but I like to think "GOD", was our "LUCK".

without that "LUCK" we would have been another dead branch on the tree of evolution.

They Mapped the human Genome, and couldnt figure 2 chromosomes, why?

You cant Map Gods finger print.......


So I support the school teaching Bolth Veiws. What is wrong with that?

Ill tell ya...Its not lock step Liberal.


^^^^^ Now that is a HUMMMMM yours was a YYYaaaawwnnnnn^^^^^


Next

[Bong30]

and, she's possibly one of those horrible Christians, too ??? :wtf: now, I know I like her :D

I want to find some Outdoor pics... ya know Her in the woods jean shorts, flannel shirt tied at waist.... hair in pony tails.......

She HOT....and qualified...............YES:thumbsup:


This would be it for NObama

If McCain did an ad with Sara, on one arm and his wife on the other......LOL

Just kidding


No im not....LOL

I am going to donate Money to the Campign...... First Time ever

[Bong30]

and, she's possibly one of those horrible Christians, too ??? :wtf: now, I know I like her :D

I am not even super religous...I have my own relationship with God, and Jesus was his only son.

IR, I started studing OBEs (outer body experiance) NDEs (Near death experiences) one thing i learned from all those stories is.

There is a God and he loves you. (period)

see my belief is not on what some clergy member says... it is on reserch studing, and yes....

I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.





IR her Husband is in The UNION too....LOL

[rebgirl420]

She is hot. She has that naughty teacher look with those glasses and the way she does her hair.

She's young too, younger than Obama by 3 years and a decade younger than McCain.

I seen her on the news shooting a AK-47 and when they said she was a lifetime NRA member (Like I am) I felt tingly all over hahahaa.

[khronik]

???? .. 'all the work' ??? ... he didn't even know he was on several Illinois House committees (because he couldn't be bothered to appear at any hearings) ... and, the overwhelming majority of his State Senate votes were 'PRESENT' (couldn't commit to anything)
Obama has made over 4000 votes in the Illinois state senate. Of these, 130 have been "present" votes. You might want to actually have a few "facts" before posting this stuff.

[Fugitive]

Its strategically sound as she will gather support from disgruntled Hillary supporters. Real conservatives that would stay at home might regain some enthusiasm, looking past McCain's liberal tendencies and recognising her conservative values. Palin is really bright, the only pro gun candidate of the four.

Experience, she was a town mayor and governor of Alaska. Experience in politics inevitably means corruption. To me she appears less tainted than the three slimy ones who shall not be named ;) an outsider of sorts.

Plus she's hot! a real milf you might say.

The only negative is Palin's and McCain's anti-abortion stance might drive some of the feminists they're targeting away.

The prospect of the first black man for the Democratic nomination will mean a record turnout of the great unwashed horde, otherwise known as liberals :D the likes of which never seen before. It will take some undoing.

[the image reaper]

Obama has made over 4000 votes in the Illinois state senate. Of these, 130 have been "present" votes. You might want to actually have a few "facts" before posting this stuff.

read his own webpage voting tallies ... Barack Obama - U.S. Senator for Illinois (http://obama.senate.gov/votes/index.cfm?start=1) ... sure is a helluva lot of " NOT VOTING " entries :D

[khronik]

First off, I have to assume you are a product of mass media and public schools, and maybe some college.

You are lock step liberal. I am first, a realist. I used to think in just evolution. Then i started to wonder why they couldnt figure out why we evloved and say....gorilas didnt? I started to think...Maybe there is just something bigger than us??????
Gorillas evolved too, into better gorillas. But it was humans that first evolved ourselves into this position we're in now. Gorillas might have gotten here if they had more time, but we were first.


So, I came up with creation evolution
How creative of you.


I like to think that the "LUCK" the "Natural selection" of us evolving was in the hands of something bigger than us. You might call it natural selection, but I like to think "GOD", was our "LUCK".

without that "LUCK" we would have been another dead branch on the tree of evolution.
There are plenty of "dead branches", eventually one would get lucky and live.


They Mapped the human Genome, and couldnt figure 2 chromosomes, why?
They mapped all 23 pairs. They may have had some difficulty at first but they've got the whole thing now.


You cant Map Gods finger print.......
For something we "cant" do, we've become pretty good at it.


So I support the school teaching Bolth Veiws. What is wrong with that?
The fact that one view has no evidence whatsoever to back it up?


Ill tell ya...Its not lock step Liberal.
Hmm, statements like this make me understand why you guys think McCain will win in November. ;)

[khronik]

read his own webpage voting tallies ... Barack Obama - U.S. Senator for Illinois (http://obama.senate.gov/votes/index.cfm?start=1) ... sure is a helluva lot of " NOT VOTING " entries :D
That doesn't change the fact that your post was utter BS. And the reason for all those NOT VOTING entries are because that is from 2008. Gee, what's he been doing since the beginning of 2008?

[allrollsin21]

Gorillas are not, and have never been EVOLVING? Can you repeat that to yourself.
One more time.

WRONG! Every creature on earth has been and is in this exact moment evolving!

I wish it were more difficult to post such ridiculous things on the internet...We wouldn't want people becoming misinformed. There should be a screening process. Thanks though for trying out Bong30.

[Bong30]

Hmm, statements like this make me understand why you guys think McCain will win in November. ;)

You bet your ass he will win.....

[Fugitive]

In this interview, Palin calls controversial Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul â??cool.â?� â??Heâ??s a good guy,â?� she added. â??Heâ??s so independent. Heâ??s independent of the party machine. Iâ??m like, â??Right on, so am I.â?? â?�

MTV (http://newsroom.mtv.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-republican-vice-presidential-nominee-plugs-romney-paul-but-not-mccain-in-mtv-interview/)

She likes Ron Paul..

[Fugitive]

She has more hands on experience than Obama as Governor of Alaska.

[rebgirl420]

Gorillas evolved too, into better gorillas. But it was humans that first evolved ourselves into this position we're in now. Gorillas might have gotten here if they had more time, but we were first.


How creative of you.


There are plenty of "dead branches", eventually one would get lucky and live.


They mapped all 23 pairs. They may have had some difficulty at first but they've got the whole thing now.


For something we "cant" do, we've become pretty good at it.


The fact that one view has no evidence whatsoever to back it up?


Hmm, statements like this make me understand why you guys think McCain will win in November. ;)

Oooooh no, do not group me in with religious bullshit. I am a firm atheist and I don't think religion should have ANYTHING to do with the government or schooling! I am for evolution 100%. I am for abortion and a womans rights and I think gay marriage is fine.

Not all Republicans are Christian or religious.

[khronik]

Oooooh no, do not group me in with religious bullshit. I am a firm atheist and I don't think religion should have ANYTHING to do with the government or schooling! I am for evolution 100%. I am for abortion and a womans rights and I think gay marriage is fine.

Not all Republicans are Christian or religious.
I said "you guys". You clearly are not a guy. :smokin:


She has more hands on experience than Obama as Governor of Alaska.
First of all, not true, she has no national experience and only two years of experience as governor. Second of all, you know who she reminds me of? Anne Coulter. Not exactly someone I want getting near the controls of government.

[Bong30]

Come on Khron....

MALE is the Default gender when addressing a group.....

Just say...Sorry Reb, I was lumping you in with Bong30, and Im sorry.


Reb, I thought was Athiest till I started looking into NDEs, and OBEs. Powerful stuff.

[painretreat]

Palin, most likely, will not get the Hillary vote! The two could not be more different!

Women voting for Palin because she is female is like: Well, blacks voting for nObama because he is black!! Unfortunately, we saw this happening quite some time ago! To choose any candidate because of race or sex or because 'she is hot' , just sucks!! And shows the ignorance of the voter!

She is there to get the 'Bible State" votes. When compared to the others, she has all the 'Bush Values'!! More than any other Republican man! She is a walking talking example of one!

If we explore Alaska, what a mistake! We already need to replace the 'Alaskan Pipeline'! It is a daily repair job now! Getting enough oil from Alaska is harder than making peace in the world? Will not cure the problem. May put more Alaskans to work though. She is for getting Alaskan oil and doesn't believe in global warming. (been freezing in Alaska too long).

Bush had Montana, until he started drilling for oil there and taking farmers land! Or was anyone paying attention! That is how, Montana became a Democratic state! The best Bush supporter's (and richest MT rancher) revolted against their farmland becoming oil rig land. So they turned Democrat and campaigned as hard against Bush's second term as they did for him previously! And the price of oil, still soars!

When it comes right down to it: If we took the religion out of politics, we might stand a chance, as a country and nation of unity! PR :rastasmoke:

[8182KSKUSH]

McCain picks Alaska Gov. Palin as running mate - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/index.html)

Well there's a transparent political move if I ever saw one. McCain is trying to attract Hillary Clinton's supporters, and not the Republican base. Oooh, I bet a few people here will be pretty pissed. This lack of enthusiasm among Republicans will only get worse now.

Boy you really have your fingers on the pulse of politics huh? Lot's of angry people huh? Drrr. drrr, drrr,drr.
I for one was not real enthused at all over voting for McCain, but like many others, this decision has really fired me up! But yeah, maybe in some far away corners, there are some angry Republicans, right!:thumbsup::stupid::yeahright:



Yeah but is she tainted with corruption like her good buddy senator?

They aren't exactly "good buddies" but keep reaching. You are going to have to be doing even more of that than what you are used to!:thumbsup:
IF you go to this website called, "GOOGLE.COM," they have this bar at the top, and if you type in something like, "Sarah Palin, Corruption, Alaska, ect...," you will get about a couple of indicators of just how "good buddies" they are. But maybe you know something no one else in the world does about her.

Fact is, she sounds like she is more of a "conservative" than McCain. The more I find out about her the more I think I would rather vote for her over McCain.:)

[ldg420]

Ok I can't bite my tongue anymore, I've gotta chime in. First off she is an excellent pick for the McCain campaign. She may only have served as Alaska's Governor for about a year and a half but when you actually compare time spent in office to positive accomplishments, everyone should be amazed. She ousted an incumbent, a leader in ethics reform, reduced the size of AK government, I could go on and on. I personally can't wait for the debates, I think it will be interesting to see America's reaction to Biden vs Palin.
Second, for those of you grouping republicans and libertarians with christianity, I think this is an utter misconception, religion has no place in government.
Third, I believe that McCain had the election locked before Palin, with her on the ticket now I will predict a landslide victory in November.:stoned:

At the end of the day it all comes down to who you want in office, Obama a junior senator who speaks of change and then selects Biden an extreme liberal who is part of the so called "broken Washington" that Obama wants to change, or McCain an experienced senator who has always put his beliefs and our country first regardless of criticism even from members of his own political party who selected Palin a washington outsider who can bring the right kind of change?:stoned:

[8182KSKUSH]

MTV (http://newsroom.mtv.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-republican-vice-presidential-nominee-plugs-romney-paul-but-not-mccain-in-mtv-interview/)

She likes Ron Paul..

Like I said, she actually sounds like a "REAL CONSERVATIVE" as opposed to a "REPUBLICAN LACKY". Many of Paul's ideas are actually "conservative ideals".
I personally can't stand him, but it has more to do with personal feelings than his positions.


She has more hands on experience than Obama as Governor of Alaska.

I think she needs to get some "hands on experience" with the 818KUSH, if ya know what I mean! And I know just the guy!:D


Ok I can't bite my tongue anymore, I've gotta chime in. First off she is an excellent pick for the McCain campaign. She may only have served as Alaska's Governor for about a year and a half but when you actually compare time spent in office to positive accomplishments, everyone should be amazed. She ousted an incumbent, a leader in ethics reform, reduced the size of AK government, I could go on and on. I personally can't wait for the debates, I think it will be interesting to see America's reaction to Biden vs Palin.
Second, for those of you grouping republicans and libertarians with christianity, I think this is an utter misconception, religion has no place in government.
Third, I believe that McCain had the election locked before Palin, with her on the ticket now I will predict a landslide victory in November.:stoned:

At the end of the day it all comes down to who you want in office, Obama a junior senator who speaks of change and then selects Biden an extreme liberal who is part of the so called "broken Washington" that Obama wants to change, or McCain an experienced senator who has always put his beliefs and our country first regardless of criticism even from members of his own political party who selected Palin a washington outsider who can bring the right kind of change?:stoned:

This election just got intresting! Not that it's ever been any kind of mystery as to whom will win, but now it'll be worth watching even knowing that. Just for the fact that I get to drool over Sarah! Saaaaaaarah, Saaaaaaaarah!:s2::kisslove::lovestruck::lovestruck ::lovestruck::4::4:

[8182KSKUSH]

Oh how i miss Ron Paul..


Anytime I hear someone talk about how much they like Ron Paul, and then the same person is supporting Obama! I just laugh and laugh! Obvious indicator that someone really has no grasp on politics AT ALL! How could you support both of these men, you could not find 2 men with more extreme political positions! Holy fuck! KOOL AID ANYONE.


As far as Palin being an ENVIRONMENTALIST...HA!

You cannot fathom the environmental degradation that building this infamous natural gas pipeline has caused. .

You know what, you are absolutely right, I can't fathom it. So why don't you spell it out for all of us. What harm specifically has come from this? What disasters has this caused? And why is it that most people in Alaska OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT IT despite the fact that it is "devastating the environment" apparently, even though the people that live their are probably more closely tied to that natural outdoor wilderness than any other people anywhere in the U.S.?

[allrollsin21]

Bong please explain what is happening with the Gorillas?? I am scared, concerned. Did evolution skip a species? Are they done evolving? Or did God's magic hand stop them in the tracks of the evolutionary path? I guess we'll never know since we cannot find his fingerprints. :wtf:

[painretreat]

Both tickets seem fairly equal to me! Equally dumb! With good intentions!

Bill Clinton was Gov. of Ark and not re-elected. He then re-ran with a different platform for and of the people and won, over and over!!

Bush was Gov. of Tx then Pres.: Lost his butt in oil and didn't do very well in baseball or anything else he did. Well, until he got sober, I guess!

Reagan; Gov. of Ca a couple times and then Pres.

Makes them good politicians, that is all!
PR

[painretreat]

Yup, the pipeline is a hinderance to wildlife. There are fences and other obstacles that seperate the young from their parents. Hung in fence's, etc. Just off the top of my head. Nat'l Geog. did an article on it many years ago!
The entire pipeline is not above ground, high enough for a bear to walk on. Most likely they are walking on the heated parts that had to be re-done, when the oil wouldn't move through the icelands! That whole pipeline needs replaced!
PR

[8182KSKUSH]

Bong please explain what is happening with the Gorillas?? I am scared, concerned. Did evolution skip a species? Are they done evolving? Or did God's magic hand stop them in the tracks of the evolutionary path? I guess we'll never know since we cannot find his fingerprints. :wtf:


I find it rather funny that "Obama Worshippers" question other's religious beliefs.:D
Anyone that supports that man should really appreciate and understand what it means to believe in something based on nothing more than "faith".
LOL:thumbsup:
On this note, I really hope Obama heads down to New Orleans real quick and holds up his hands and pushes hurrican Gustav back out into the ocean and saves New Orleans!:D

[painretreat]

I find it rather funny that "Obama Worshippers" question other's religious beliefs.:D
Anyone that supports that man should really appreciate and understand what it means to believe in something based on nothing more than "faith".
LOL:thumbsup:
On this note, I really hope Obama heads down to New Orleans real quick and holds up his hands and pushes hurrican Gustav back out into the ocean and saves New Orleans!:D

Too funny, I can just see it! :jointsmile: PR

[8182KSKUSH]

Yup, the pipeline is a hinderance to wildlife. There are fences and other obstacles that seperate the young from their parents. Hung in fence's, etc. Just off the top of my head. Nat'l Geog. did an article on it many years ago!
The entire pipeline is not above ground, high enough for a bear to walk on. Most likely they are walking on the heated parts that had to be re-done, when the oil wouldn't move through the icelands! That whole pipeline needs replaced!
PR

I am from Kansas, spent 27 years there.
I can't even imagine how many fence lines there are throughout that state. Yes, animals get hung up in them. Some predatory birds even hang dead animals on them for fun. (No shit, this is absolutely true).
Animals also get hit by cars.
I don't doubt for a second that these things happen everywhere, including in AK.
I do doubt that there has been any sort of ecological disaster there due to the pipeline.:wtf:

[8182KSKUSH]

Too funny, I can just see it! :jointsmile: PR

Hell yeah, If he "really wanted to he could" just like Moses parting the red sea.
He could just be holding a really fancy "pimpin' cane" while he does it! You know if he "wants" to do something, he doesn't need any sort of plan, he can just "will it" into being!
OBAMA IS GOD!:D

[painretreat]

Not to forget, we hunt them for food, 'because there are too many' causing auto accidents, anyway deer! 2 Yrs ago, they,deer, were the # 1 reason in U.S.A. for auto accidents!

Lets not forget Exxon Valdiz, just got off the hook, with little more than a slap on the hand (oops, fingertip) this past year! How did that slip by her? That was such a disgrace. Look at the dead wildlife from that oil! I can't show a pix, surely you will 81K!

That pipeline could pop open. Read up on it. It was built for a temporary fix and it has outlasted its' initial proposed lifetime by more than a decade or so! She has to get out of AK before it is fucked up with all that oil!

She needed to get a new pipeline going, ASAP! I question anyone that would be Gov. of that state and not address getting a new pipeline!

The MT farmers are really pissed with what they are doing in MT for oil! I just don't know how that has not been used as a major example. Except, it is not a well populated State!

I would not vote for a female because she is female. Ferraro shattered the glass ceiling prior to her announcement today! Guess, it shows her inexperience as a politician! May be a real good thing!

I do believe this election is between VP's! I believe this will be a presidency that may well be finished by a VP! I thot I'd make up my mind when the announcement's came!

Now, more debates! :stoned: PR

[painretreat]

Hell yeah, If he "really wanted to he could" just like Moses parting the red sea.
He could just be holding a really fancy "pimpin' cane" while he does it! You know if he "wants" to do something, he doesn't need any sort of plan, he can just "will it" into being!
OBAMA IS GOD!:D

LOL, just the picture in my mind! lol PR

[8182KSKUSH]

For the rest that don't have a good imagination.

[eg420ne]

Hahahahaha ^^^^....hey StALIN palin a good choice for the republicans

[allrollsin21]

Kool Aid?? I am confused as to what derogatory insult you are wielding now. I doubt that anyone ever handed you that cup of electric kool aid. You might have then realized that in fact you may not be correct about everything.

I am going to do something now which more than a few people on this thread struggle with. Answer the ideas brought up opposing my position. Instead of your good ole boy "yeah you are so right...thanks pal...way to get those limp kool aid...blah blah.

So how can i support two different candidates for president? Easy. What i want to see is things shaken up more than ever before. I want my country to do a complete 180 on many long standing policies and laws. I want the US to embrace more pacifistic ideals. Ron Paul offered this. I believe in his politics. Unfortunately he cannot win this election. SO.... i am supporting the candidate i think will change the policies in our government. Barack does not have 30 years of experience like McCaine does. That is comforting to me. I am a realist and i know one president can only do so much. I am just hoping the ball gets turned and pointed in another direction.
THERE IS ONE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND I. Deep down in my heart I don't give a shit who becomes president. I am not blinded by a party. If John McCaine became president I would watch closely as always and encourage and support a move in the directions i want to see this country move. If he were to act on some of his original beliefs i would be pleased. The problem with what i have seen is that he has adopted others policies since recieving the nomination. Time to pay the piper. The dirrence being you will bash Obama no matter what he would accomplish. Stubborn good ole boy...

As far as pipelines

Have you ever been to Yosemite? How about Moab? Many people including myself consider these places ruined. Roads turn wilderness into non wilderness. Is this not environmental degradation?
If you can stand to read someone that does not encourage you to believe what you already believe, check out Edward Abbey. Desert Solitaire is a good place to start. I dare you... but also caution you, its not all quantifiable. Which means it may not compute. Kool Aid helps with this.

Alaska pipeline spill amount debated - Environment - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11696601/)

"Onshore development, like the offshore variety, results in heavy-duty industrialization of affected areas. Exploration activities degrade wildlife habitats and roadless areas, harm fragile soils and archeological resources, and encourage damaging offroad vehicle use. And extraction activities have displaced wildlife and fragmented and degraded their habitats. Wilderness values on millions of acres have been lost and local communities transformed through "boom and bust" economies."
NRDC: Managing America's Latest Natural Gas Crisis (http://www.nrdc.org/air/energy/fnatgas.asp)

[8182KSKUSH]

Hahahahaha ^^^^....hey StALIN palin a good choice for the republicans

Spoken like a true liberal kool aid drinker! It rhymes, fits on a bumper sticker, and has no substance! Perfect!

Care to elaborate at all? Do you even know anything about Stalin? Could you begin to explain "HOW" she somehow compares to him in your world? Don't worry, I won't hold my breath waiting for the answer!
LMFAO:S2::S2::S2:
:stupid::stupid::stupid:
:lol5::lol5::lol5:

[eg420ne]

:S2::whalephant::asskick::dance::dance:LoL ~~~~.President-Elect Barack H Obama...................

[allrollsin21]

You accuse me of questioning someones religious beliefs. Try again. Never. I did not realize that the belief that Gorillas evolution coming to a halt is a religious belief. Are you serious? Gorillas are evolving. This is fact. Sometimes too slowly apparently.

I was Kayaking in Prince William sound long after Exxon Valdez had released their official documents stating the spill was cleaned up completely. YEARS LATER. All one had to do was flip over two rocks, and under one was guaranteed to be oil. This was for miles. Its too bad nobody gave a shit... Go Team USA!!
Kush this is very poor logic. Because animals are currently being killed by human development it does not matter if things we do cause more to die. Not your most Brilliant:thumbsup:
"I am from Kansas, spent 27 years there.
I can't even imagine how many fence lines there are throughout that state. Yes, animals get hung up in them. Some predatory birds even hang dead animals on them for fun. (No shit, this is absolutely true).
Animals also get hit by cars.
I don't doubt for a second that these things happen everywhere, including in AK.
I do doubt that there has been any sort of ecological disaster there due to the pipeline."

[8182KSKUSH]

As far as pipelines

Alaska pipeline spill amount debated - Environment - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11696601/)

"Onshore development, like the offshore variety, results in heavy-duty industrialization of affected areas. Exploration activities degrade wildlife habitats and roadless areas, harm fragile soils and archeological resources, and encourage damaging offroad vehicle use. And extraction activities have displaced wildlife and fragmented and degraded their habitats. Wilderness values on millions of acres have been lost and local communities transformed through "boom and bust" economies."
NRDC: Managing America's Latest Natural Gas Crisis (http://www.nrdc.org/air/energy/fnatgas.asp)


Sounds like someone needs to let the people and wildlife in Alaska know that the place is ruined!:thumbsup:
This revalating information will likely cripple their thriving tourist economy for the vast arctic tundra!:jointsmile:

[eg420ne]

lmao:S2::S2::bigsmoke:^^^

[8182KSKUSH]

You accuse me of questioning someones religious beliefs. Try again. Never. I did not realize that the belief that Gorillas evolution coming to a halt is a religious belief. Are you serious? Gorillas are evolving. This is fact. Sometimes too slowly apparently."

I think you may have missed my point there.


I was Kayaking in Prince William sound long after Exxon Valdez had released their official documents stating the spill was cleaned up completely. YEARS LATER. All one had to do was flip over two rocks, and under one was guaranteed to be oil. This was for miles. Its too bad nobody gave a shit... Go Team USA!!."

How did you even make it back alive!


Kush this is very poor logic. Because animals are currently being killed by human development it does not matter if things we do cause more to die. Not your most Brilliant:thumbsup:!!."

Again, you miss the point. Point is WILDLIFE DIES ALL THE TIME EVERYWHERE, PIPELINE OR NO PIPELINE! If it comes down to a choice between humans living, and animals being killed, guess what?:wtf:

So is there any wildlife even left there to speak of? Sounds like there isn't. Just a vast wasteland right? I wonder how people are even able to live there?:jointsmile:

[painretreat]

the name game: Osama Nobama; Biden-Liedumb!
McLain; stalin fallum!

Exxon Valdiz: It is still bad there: It has only been mos. that they got off with a slap on the wrist! I'd like to hear how she let that happen! She was Gov. and seems to not have cared about one of the best spots in Alaska for trade if for no other reason! I still see all those dead birds, Kush, please post a pix for me, I know you have a heart! I am dumb with Pc (you'll say a lot of things I am sure) but I am trying to understand the logice, etc. And I do enjoy your posts.

Supreme Court! Roe vs Wade does effect you. If you were a young man using a condom and someone got pregnant. Would you want to support that kid the rest of your life! Abortion is going backward and ultimately, it does effect men! I know several women that got pregnant due to a hole in the condom or whatever. Abortion is a necessity in this country! It is a man's issue, not just women. Yet men do not seem concerned!

The Terrorist Act: If you have been threatened at the ripe age of 53 and told you were going to jail and harassed by a cop with the terrorist act all day long. You would want it to change. I am not for completely getting rid of it all. But, wiretapping a good citizen with no good reason! Sending me to jail, even though he couldn't and I knew it, but he was threatening me and his superiors did not care!

Alaskan Pipeline: Needs replaced and is not enough to move more oil through! It is being repaired 24/7 365! That and Exxon getting off the hook are things she needed to address as Gov.
Women will never have equal rights with women that think like her. I think McCain is better than she is! She holds all the "Good ole boys values!" Only diff. between her and Cheney is: Oil co. ties and her health (age)! More of the same!

You must admire a woman that gets pregnant after the age of 30! The risk of Down's Syndrome is checked due to that being a major possibility! At 40, almost a certainty--That again, is why they check, so you can abort prior to development of fetus--For abortion. If you have been with a family strapped with a Down's Syndrome baby, it is a very difficult thing! Good thing she is in politics, so taxpayers can take care of it in her home, instead of the home for them. It is taxing to a family to take care of and practically a full time job to a loving and present mother! That kid needs more and almost all of her time!

Anti-abortion: This is 2008, we can tell when an abortion is needed and when not. Would you keep a D.S. baby. Maybe, until it got so big you couldn't change the diapers anymore. It is physically taxing, and mentally. I do not admire that! This would be a pretty hard nose approach, but it could be used for organ donor, at best! Yet, I know people that say , their Down's Syndrome baby is the light of their life. I know an M.D. that tried to take care of his, until she got so big they just could not. Put her in a Gov't home and bingo; she was happier being with like people.

I did leave out, we never know how bad the D.S. is going to be and Christian's like her will pray it is mild and deliver. I can understand that! I do not have an answer for her, for me=abortion! Plus, I'd know better than to get pregnant at that age. These celebs doing it, a lot have fertility drugs and abort the bad ones and keep the good ones, as multiple births are a result of fert. drugs. She did it natural.

She will be a major set back to Equality for women. Watch the VP's pay go down if a woman gets it. Or, no raise in salary, if deserved.

She is popular in Alaska and Alaska has the most single and horniest men on the planet! Sure they like her! They all hunt, fish and enjoy the same shit she does. My 90 yr old aunt did until she was in her mid 70's too! But, she believed in abortion and women's rights.

WHAT IS HER EDUCATION?

Sure she is pretty, and this was a joke! I expect a very close race.

Obama has been campaigning for 2 years now and I am bored with the whole thing after all this.

Will wait for the VP debates and hope it makes me feel better, as I believe either VP has a good chance to be President! I am concerned for her health: I worry about some idiot shooting at her or nOsama! I neve want to see that in this country again.

Plus, I have not seen the presence of 'liking' her voice long enough to listen to a speech. But, that could change.

I am so confused! But, this is normal for some elections. Shit happens and you don't know what to do.

Fighting and picking at each other accomplishes nothing! We need more education!

Thanks for all the links and info, I am reading and very concerned of the future of this nation!

I am not sure I want Guantanamo, completely gone! But, definitely, people given some rights, not all! Be selective. They are suspected terrorists and need to be treated like it, until otherwise evicenced. But, once they get there, no one cares. People go there for no reason, except hanging with the wrong person; I've done that! Just to talk and view their perspective on things! An act of learning to make more educated opinions!

She is anti-women and a good submissive Christian! Seems like a real nice person, too!

But, this would continue to take our country backwards and take away more of our rights! I cannot believe in the past several years that abortion would even be an issue. I do know a guy that pays a few thousand dollars a month because he got loaded and his dad's caretaker did also! They then had a one night stand and boom! Hit with child support. He wanted divorce. It seems to me, that I do not even have the answer to that, but men need to think on it! What if everytime you had sex, it cost you a few thousand a month for 18 years!

She has not improved the state employees health care or improve any conditions for employees rights! Too busy setting herself up to get a wink for the White House.

How will she decorate the VP and if she gets it White House!

I do like that she dismissed the staff for the home quarters of her family and made them clean up after themselves and cook and all the things they normally do, regardless of Gov. Mansion or not! That is a good step in the right direction! If she drives her own vehcile, I'd like that also! By not allowing staff to cater to them in the family home (Gov.mansion): is there something to hide! Or real common sense?

I do admire that she has traveled more than Obama to support troops and Gov't business! First hand knowledge. Obama was too busy going to Africa. A good excuse to see family on taxpayers buck!

I see good and bad in both. I see, that no one will know how I will vote, until I see or read a very good reason.

So please, if you do not mind. Give me some links on the above accusations, I did not make up!

I loved the pic of the sea opening! WE need a little more humor here. Wher is dail and Illinill? Lets lighten this up and get some facts to convince the one that needs more facts. Please help me out! So, I do not have apathy! I want to vote. And I want rights, mmj nationwide, won't happen this round! But, I am an endless diehard optimist!!!

And if I had kush around, I would be on it 24/7 to make my mind open, even more!

I respect each and every opinion and you are all helping me. Thank you for that! PR :stoned:

Wish I had an answer and think I'll go fishing to ponder it! Deep sea, so when I hang over the side to puke, everyone will think it is seasickness!

Get religion out of politics and I believe she and Obama would have different views on a lot of things! Pr :rastasmoke: Peace and love to all and ever lasting respect! :thumbsup:

[painretreat]

McCain is older than dirt, and if he kicks the bucket we'll have some woman who has no idea what she is doing as president.

I think McCain just forfeited this election.

I have not met one man that really wants a woman in any of those positions! Do men hate women, in general! Or just the ones that did not respect their mom's! I do not understand what gender has to do with it. If she were older and unable to reproduce-it should be considered equal! During reproducing age--maybe not a good idea, I do not know for sure!

We don't even know her education yet! Did she go to college, at all? That might make a good one!

Women run other countries and we are not at war with any of them, nor are they at war! I hope! PR:stoned:

[Mississippi Steve]

The Obama camp isn't saying that Palin doesn't have the experience to be president, but the fact that McCain chose her does make his best argument against Obama a lot less effective.

I can just imagine McCain being asked "Is Sarah Palin ready to be president?" and then followed up with "Is Obama?"

Hmmm...lets see...Obama only had 143 days in office when he elected to run for prez, and Palin has been Governer of Alaska for 2 years......whos got what experience??

[Bong30]

Bong please explain what is happening with the Gorillas?? I am scared, concerned. Did evolution skip a species? Are they done evolving? Or did God's magic hand stop them in the tracks of the evolutionary path? I guess we'll never know since we cannot find his fingerprints. :wtf:


All, if you the intelect you think, you would allready know that you cant debate Faith. Its what I believe. You believe what you believe.

I thought for decades, on my thesis, and you just regurgatate what your teachers (libs btw) tell you. KEEP it up you are LOCK step.


You should be scared. When you die, you are lump of meat, when I die, I live forever.......till i come back as Bong31 atleast:thumbsup:

[khronik]

Hmmm...lets see...Obama only had 143 days in office when he elected to run for prez, and Palin has been Governer of Alaska for 2 years......whos got what experience??
Palin went straight from being a mayor of a town with 9000 people to being governor. Palin has been governor since 2007, Obama has been senator since 2005. The 143 days thing only counts the days the senate is in session. But during the off-time the senators do other stuff like diplomatic trips and drafting legislation, so saying those 143 days are the only time he's been working is incredibly unrealistic.

On an unrelated note, Wasilla, Alaska is right near the Matanuska Valley, home of the infamous Matanuska Thunderfuck. I know that now that I said that, someone will vote for her just for that, but I still thought it was interesting. :jointsmile:

[daihashi]

Palin went straight from being a mayor of a town with 9000 people to being governor. Palin has been governor since 2007, Obama has been senator since 2005. The 143 days thing only counts the days the senate is in session. But during the off-time the senators do other stuff like diplomatic trips and drafting legislation, so saying those 143 days are the only time he's been working is incredibly unrealistic.

Can you list some Major legislation created by Obama? And what major diplomatic trips did he take prior to this election or the democratic primaries, why did he take these trips and what did he accomplish?
[/QUOTE]

[Bong30]

Can you list some Major legislation created by Obama? And what major diplomatic trips did he take prior to this election or the democratic primaries, why did he take these trips and what did he accomplish?
[/QUOTE]

He accomlished running for pres.......:wtf:

[McDanger]

Supreme Court! Roe vs Wade does effect you. If you were a young man using a condom and someone got pregnant. Would you want to support that kid the rest of your life! Abortion is going backward and ultimately, it does effect men! I know several women that got pregnant due to a hole in the condom or whatever. Abortion is a necessity in this country! It is a man's issue, not just women. Yet men do not seem concerned!
Reversing this ruling would not make abortion illegal, it would revert back to the states to make their own laws. Possibly men would have more of an opinion on it if we had a say in the matter, but we don't. We don't have a choice.

She will be a major set back to Equality for women. Watch the VP's pay go down if a woman gets it. Or, no raise in salary, if deserved.
Some evidence to back up this opinion. Have womens wages gone down in Alaska?

She is popular in Alaska and Alaska has the most single and horniest men on the planet! Sure they like her! They all hunt, fish and enjoy the same shit she does. And so do a lot of us in the rest of the country also, and we vote.

WHAT IS HER EDUCATION? What is the messiahs? He will not release his school records.

Sure she is pretty, and this was a joke! I expect a very close race.


She is anti-women and a good submissive Christian! Seems like a real nice person, too!
Are you talking about Michelle?

But, this would continue to take our country backwards and take away more of our rights! I cannot believe in the past several years that abortion would even be an issue. I do know a guy that pays a few thousand dollars a month because he got loaded and his dad's caretaker did also! They then had a one night stand and boom! Hit with child support. He wanted divorce. It seems to me, that I do not even have the answer to that, but men need to think on it! What if everytime you had sex, it cost you a few thousand a month for 18 years!

What if every time you spread your legs you were responsible for the result of that "choice".
Why don't I get to choose which of my children I get to kill.

How will she decorate the VP and if she gets it White House!
Who gives a shit?





That doesn't change the fact that your post was utter BS. And the reason for all those NOT VOTING entries are because that is from 2008. Gee, what's he been doing since the beginning of 2008?
It was from his time in the state senate...he didn't work there either.

[allrollsin21]

Bong I am not questioning anyones faith. You made a post that sounded as if ONLY gorillas are not evolving. I have repeatedly asked you to explain your belief.
I do not understand and have never heard of any reports or beliefs of Gorillas not evolving with the rest of the creatures. Enlighten me the heathen you claim me to believe. DON'T PRESUPPOSE YOU KNOW ABOUT MY FAITH SIMPLY BECAUSE I ASK YOU A QUESTION TO FURTHER EXPLAIN YOUR POST.

If i offended you, i apologize. In the last few days i can say nothing has been accomplished in these political forums, and so i do what is best for myself... goodbye and blessings

[Bong30]

Bong I am not questioning anyones faith. You made a post that sounded as if ONLY gorillas are not evolving. I have repeatedly asked you to explain your belief.
I do not understand and have never heard of any reports or beliefs of Gorillas not evolving with the rest of the creatures. Enlighten me the heathen you claim me to believe. DON'T PRESUPPOSE YOU KNOW ABOUT MY FAITH SIMPLY BECAUSE I ASK YOU A QUESTION TO FURTHER EXPLAIN YOUR POST.

If i offended you, i apologize. In the last few days i can say nothing has been accomplished in these political forums, and so i do what is best for myself... goodbye and blessings


Alls.....

You are right...Gorillas are Evolving. INTO BETTER gorillas...


with your logic ALL species will end up human.......

Im saying we were Helped along the way....some people believe it was the Anunaki from Nibaru......

I believe it was a power that you will (even if you dont like it) will Meet one day...... youll go Damn That bong was right.



Just think, all On my own, I merged the 2 Ideas into 1. What do you do?





Yes you praise in Public punish in Private.......

you can dish out the bad rep but cant take it.........cry to mommy, or mods in this case

[Bong30]

[SIZE="5"]"

Another class act for sure. Your were able to rep me with more curses than Kush. Nice one. :thumbsup:

Thanks....


I knew Kush was allright.....

[Fugitive]

Palin went straight from being a mayor of a town with 9000 people to being governor. Palin has been governor since 2007, Obama has been senator since 2005. The 143 days thing only counts the days the senate is in session. But during the off-time the senators do other stuff like diplomatic trips and drafting legislation, so saying those 143 days are the only time he's been working is incredibly unrealistic

Obama is running for president and I wouldn't say he has more experience. Mr Uhhh look at me diplomatic trip :D

Don't slander the vpilf :p

[Bong30]

Obama is running for president and I wouldn't say he has more experience. Mr Uhhh look at me diplomatic trip :D

Don't slander the vpilf :p

VPILF...... LOL:thumbsup:

Man Thats good

[dragonrider]

Are you kidding me??? This is one of the most ridiculous statements I have heard. She has a ton of Environmental Experience and is an Avid wildlife enthusiast. If theres any argument against her man the ENVIRONMENTAL one is one that she cant be attacked over.

Wrong.

She has a very bad environmental record. She opposed a ballot initiative to prohibit metal processing companies from polluting rivers that support salmon. She supports drilling in ANWAR (which even McCain does not support) and offshore drilling (which McCain has recently flip-flopped to support). She denies global warming, even though her own state will be one of the first to suffer and is already losing whole villages as they sink into the mud when the permafrost thaws. She opposes listing polar bears as threatened.

She can easily be attacked on her environemntal record.

[Fugitive]

I saw that somewhere else so I can't take the credit just though it was funny and had t o post it. :thumbsup:

[IanCurtisWishlist]

I think John McCain chose her because he doesn't really want to be president.

This is obviously a ploy by John McCain to sway democratic voters to the republican party.

I would like to say that, through the course of John McCain's very long life, he has had several wifes, and in every circumstance, he has left his older wife for a younger woman. I think he is really just trying to fuck his vice president and leave his wife to spend all day with her in the oval office. We'll be seeing another repeat of the Clinton sex scandal again if McCain is our president--only this time the sexual acts will be even worse because for god sakes he's so old, how did he do it, where is the viagra , so many questions for John McCain:stoned:.

with that being said, Obama seems like the kind of guy who I really could sit down with and smoke a fat blunt while sipping red wine by the fireplace.

what i don't like about obama: he is too rhetorical, and sometimes he reminds me of a guy trying to sweet talk a woman to get into her pants ("her pants" being our votes, the woman being the voters, respectively).

[daihashi]

I think John McCain chose her because he doesn't really want to be president.

This is obviously a ploy by John McCain to sway democratic voters to the republican party.

I would like to say that, through the course of John McCain's very long life, he has had several wifes, and in every circumstance, he has left his older wife for a younger woman. I think he is really just trying to fuck his vice president and leave his wife to spend all day with her in the oval office. We'll be seeing another repeat of the Clinton sex scandal again if McCain is our president--only this time the sexual acts will be even worse because for god sakes he's so old, how did he do it, where is the viagra , so many questions for John McCain:stoned:.

with that being said, Obama seems like the kind of guy who I really could sit down with and smoke a fat blunt while sipping red wine by the fireplace.

what i don't like about obama: he is too rhetorical, and sometimes he reminds me of a guy trying to sweet talk a woman to get into her pants ("her pants" being our votes, the woman being the voters, respectively).

OMG are you for real?

[Bong30]

I herd the first thing she did when she took office....

fired the Gov Masion Chef.... said should could make PBJs and Mac and cheese for her kids.... OMG i love her

The she sold the state of AKs JET.... on Ebay


That is cutting goverment waste

That is Talking the talk and walking the walk

its Over

[Bong30]

Alaska has how much natural resources to manage?

She is doing a great job there.


Why are you down on small town america?

How may people does delaware have?


Bill just say.. you dont like her cause she has an (R) in front of her name.

Get over it, and then have a crush on her like me. She Hunts Moose....


Delaware-VS-AK by Population
there goes that defence.....Biden sucks ass....


State Number Rank
United States 296,410,404 (X)
Alabama 4,557,808 23
Alaska 663,661 47
Arizona 5,939,292 17
Arkansas 2,779,154 32
California 36,132,147 1
Colorado 4,665,177 22
Connecticut 3,510,297 29
Delaware 843,524 45
District of Columbia 550,521 (X)
Florida 17,789,864 4
Georgia 9,072,576 9
Hawaii 1,275,194 42
Idaho 1,429,096 39
Illinois 12,763,371 5
Indiana 6,271,973 15
Iowa 2,966,334 30
Kansas 2,744,687 33
Kentucky 4,173,405 26
Louisiana 4,523,628 24
Maine 1,321,505 40
Maryland 5,600,388 19
Massachusetts 6,398,743 13
Michigan 10,120,860 8
Minnesota 5,132,799 21
Mississippi 2,921,088 31
Missouri 5,800,310 18
Montana 935,670 44
Nebraska 1,758,787 38
Nevada 2,414,807 35
New Hampshire 1,309,940 41
New Jersey 8,717,925 10
New Mexico 1,928,384 36
New York 19,254,630 3
North Carolina 8,683,242 11
North Dakota 636,677 48
Ohio 11,464,042 7
Oklahoma 3,547,884 28
Oregon 3,641,056 27
Pennsylvania 12,429,616 6
Rhode Island 1,076,189 43
South Carolina 4,255,083 25
South Dakota 775,933 46
Tennessee 5,962,959 16
Texas 22,859,968 2
Utah 2,469,585 34
Vermont 623,050 49
Virginia 7,567,465 12
Washington 6,287,759 14
West Virginia 1,816,856 37
Wisconsin 5,536,201 20
Wyoming 509,294 50

[Bong30]

what happened to how many people?


I want her for prez.... she is the change we need not Dumbass America hating, Black theolgy believing, Nobama

Yes I do believe he Hates America...Like all the Radical left wingers

[Bong30]

LOL nice spin you are a lib:thumbsup:

[DaBudhaStank]

Like I just Told IR.... I herd she broke all the fingers on ONe Hand while working as a fisherman one summer.... she is tough and HOT:thumbsup:

Cool? Can't see how that applies to being a vice president but alright...


Mother of 5

Several of whom are quite young. Shouldn't she be taking care of them instead?


oldest going off to war in Iraq

Good for him, I'm glad. Now, once she goes over there and kills a few dozen people, we'll be set.


New mother with special needs baby

One more reason I WON'T vote for them. That baby is going to need CONSTANT attention and care, but I guess she'd rather dump it on a baby sitter instead. Talk about irresponsible.


loves moose burgers

Yay?


can hunt fish and ride snowmobiles

Yay 2.0? That's about as cool as Bill Clinton playing sax or Kerry going snowboarding. Meaning not cool, or hip.


was Public servant (mayor) for 4 years before Nobama was in Illonios senate

Ah yes, because running a town is a lot like a running a country....oh wait, no, it isn't. However, I'll concede that Obama IS inexperienced, I can't really argue for him on that.


CEO of AK.......(cut spending in own party)

Alright, that's fair. Point for you.


Commander and chief of ak National gaurd..

They have a National Guard? Are they there to protect us from Soviets, seals, or Eskimos?


Has smoked Weed, thats cool. she didnt like it cause she didnt have any good shit....:D

I'm gonna let my bias take this one. She's a Republican, which means if she DID try weed, and didn't like it, she's going to fight that much harder to get rid of it.

[Psycho4Bud]

Guess who can read rep comments now? Everyone here is well aware of what happens with personal attacks and this bullshit will NOT be tolorated from either side of the aisle!!!:mad: People in the past have been warned and even banned so what is to happen should come as no suprise.

Unfortunately this thread is CLOSED!

Have a good one!:jointsmile: