We are an advanced form of bacteria?

[Jay Matix]

The earth that we live on is just a small rock in this constantly expanding universe.

If you fly into Los Angeles. You go over all of the beautiful fields and mountains, then all of a sudden you see LA and all of that disgusting pollution. If you looked at the earth as a living organism you would look at LA and you'd think (thats CANCER). Well I think that is our purpose as human beings. Much like mold takes over a sandwich. I think thats what people do. I think we are just a more complicated form of bacteria. And all of the thoughts of ourselves are just biological tricks set up to keep the human race alive and perpetuating.




thoughts? :stoned:

[Jay Matix]

The earth that we live on is just a small rock in this constantly expanding universe.

If you fly into Los Angeles. You go over all of the beautiful fields and mountains, then all of a sudden you see LA and all of that disgusting pollution. If you looked at the earth as a living organism you would look at LA and you'd think (thats CANCER). Well I think that is our purpose as human beings. Much like mold takes over a sandwich. I think thats what people do. I think we are just a more complicated form of bacteria. And all of the thoughts of ourselves are just biological tricks set up to keep the human race alive and perpetuating.

[jimmy8778]

yeah, i pretty much agree with you. I would love to see what the world will look like in several million years when evolution has taken its course, that is of course if the world hasnt been blown to smithereens by nuclear weapons by then. but i wonder if strep throat could be your neighbor, or if people will even be around by then. The world is in a constant state of evolution, and as people change the world, we change the rules behind what will survive and what wont. There will always be new species evolving, not necessarily noticable througout our lifetime but over the course of human history think about how the same animal would look thousands of years ago, like cats for example, or frogs or something.

People are evolving too, the only issue is that society is making natural selection not so much a thing of better genes means you get to procreate, but also that death by chance is almost the only form of natural selection left, outside raw instinctual actions of our reproductive system creating genetic diversity.

[SFGurrilla]

yeah, i pretty much agree with you. I would love to see what the world will look like in several million years when evolution has taken its course, that is of course if the world hasnt been blown to smithereens by nuclear weapons by then. but i wonder if strep throat could be your neighbor, or if people will even be around by then. The world is in a constant state of evolution, and as people change the world, we change the rules behind what will survive and what wont. There will always be new species evolving, not necessarily noticable througout our lifetime but over the course of human history think about how the same animal would look thousands of years ago, like cats for example, or frogs or something.

People are evolving too, the only issue is that society is making natural selection not so much a thing of better genes means you get to procreate, but also that death by chance is almost the only form of natural selection left, outside raw instinctual actions of our reproductive system creating genetic diversity.

We can make a sperm like a video game character with cheats. They can make that sperm have any attribute that the parents want. Our bacteria knows how to completely alter structure of our organism. I can't wait for the next couple of years and what will of come from all of these new discoveries.

Peace ::stoned:

[Coelho]

I think we humans are more like a virus... spreading like a disease through the entire earth... and who knows how long it will take until we succeed in killing it?

BTW, there was an older thread about this subject... look at:

http://boards.cannabis.com/philosophy/144966-were-bacteria.html

:thumbsup:

EDIT: 2,300th post! :rastasmoke:

[TheMetal1]

is there a reason you started a thread just to quote Joe Rogan? :wtf: haha

I understand that he isn't a pioneer in philosophical concepts, and you have every right to discuss similar ideas... but that's pretty much this:
YouTube - What Joe Rogan Thinks about people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ZFhfEBfmg)

You were just about to post that video link weren't you? ;)

I mean, I kinda sound like a dick... but Joe Rogan is a :rasta: so I got to back him up. If you had re-phrased it a bit and elaborated on why you agree or whatever... that's cool. But it kinda makes it seem like you just woke up and thought of this??

[flyingimam]

well i cant agree more with above lol, we just need our extra terrestrial rivals, where are they? to end our dominance, i guess thats the only thing that can bring balance or maybe a genetic jump or a nuclear war... something of drastic measure must take place to change how we do things so virally in a drastic way;) i just hope its not he nuclear option anything else will be better than that!

[Coelho]

well i cant agree more with above lol, we just need our extra terrestrial rivals, where are they? to end our dominance, i guess thats the only thing that can bring balance or maybe a genetic jump or a nuclear war... something of drastic measure must take place to change how we do things so virally in a drastic way;) i just hope its not he nuclear option anything else will be better than that!

Well... the Earth is older and wiser than us, and surely it will take the needed measures to get rid of us and get cured... in fact, its already taking... look at the climate changes, earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, etc... the industrialized civilization wont last much longer, and the few humans who survive (if any one do) wont behave like viruses anymore for a long time.

[painretreat]

Well... the Earth is older and wiser than us, and surely it will take the needed measures to get rid of us and get cured... in fact, its already taking... look at the climate changes, earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, etc... the industrialized civilization wont last much longer, and the few humans who survive (if any one do) wont behave like viruses anymore for a long time.

Second that!! :thumbsup:

[flyingimam]

Well... the Earth is older and wiser than us, and surely it will take the needed measures to get rid of us and get cured... in fact, its already taking... look at the climate changes, earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, etc... the industrialized civilization wont last much longer, and the few humans who survive (if any one do) wont behave like viruses anymore for a long time.

true

if going by religious accounts, Noah came, a vast area of what was then inhabited world-if not the whole world by other accounts- got flooded to the point only his ship survived the storm and then back at square 1 in no time, maybe the surviving humans dont act like viruses for a generation or so... we are "made" to act like that one way or another... and as soon as 1 starts acting like that it will just be a ripple effect and others will follow suit!

[DOUGAL25]

The earth that we live on is just a small rock in this constantly expanding universe.

If you fly into Los Angeles. You go over all of the beautiful fields and mountains, then all of a sudden you see LA and all of that disgusting pollution. If you looked at the earth as a living organism you would look at LA and you'd think (thats CANCER). Well I think that is our purpose as human beings. Much like mold takes over a sandwich. I think thats what people do. I think we are just a more complicated form of bacteria. And all of the thoughts of ourselves are just biological tricks set up to keep the human race alive and perpetuating.




thoughts? :stoned:






Bacteria doesn't cause cancer. Cancer is mutated genes that cause unregulated cell division/growth. So i don't see your connection :P

[TheMetal1]

... but seriously did anyone watch Joe Rogan say the exact same thing as the OP in the youtube video? Just find it strange... maybe Joe is a member here :hippy:


We're not a virus or bacteria, we're simply highly intelligent mammals.

It's nice to think of humans as really smart and refined... but intelligence is really a relative term. Subjective? Hmm... what word? It's based on perspective. Yeah, we can build fancy stuff and dial phones... but I doubt we could survive many environments that so called "stupid" mammals can thrive in. We base intelligence off of our survival skills, so it is somewhat impossible to compare our ability to articulate a sentence with a bats ability to navigate at high speeds in pitch black. Even in humans we have different forms of intelligence (Street smart:cool: vs. Book smart:hippy:) so even WE can't really compare "intelligence." Does that make sense? It's late...


1,000 years ago we weren't causing pollution, so how could we be bacteria if we haven't been that way for the entire time we've been kickin'?

My only explanation for this would be, again, because we are basing things off of our perception. We are partial to "our way of life." Our idea of linear time would not translate to a viral colony. While we may think of humans only being a destructive force on Earth for a short period of time... some may argue that as soon as man set foot on the Earth... it began the viral destruction of the planet.

It's like... you see the moldy sandwich. It may have started with one little mold spore... left to reproduce, it grows. After a week or so... most of the sandwich has a light coating of mold, but still it looks like a sandwich. Nothing to get too worried about. Now if you let it go for like a month... that shit will start to decompose and rot, eventually becoming unrecognizable.

Now imagine the world is the sandwich... the single spore was the first people on Earth... the light coating of mold was the growing global population... and once the mold dominates everything... it is game over for the sandwich. This also would happen over a very very very long time.

So, you throw that whole humanly subjective term "time" out the window... and we really aren't that different from a moldy sandwich :stoned:
Does that makes sense? It's late...

Edit: Let me also say, after seeing the above post ^... I believe this is used more as a metaphor than as an actual medical correlation.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

all that exists is nothing more than a(nother) representation of all that exists.

You can see all of creation in a grain of sand. everything is made up of the same thing, and is only re-represented to the infinite decimal, thus creating what we see as "time", for not all representations can exist simultaneously in the same "place" and "time".

[PlainJane]

It's nice to think of humans as really smart and refined... but intelligence is really a relative term. Subjective? Hmm... what word? It's based on perspective. Yeah, we can build fancy stuff and dial phones... but I doubt we could survive many environments that so called "stupid" mammals can thrive in. We base intelligence off of our survival skills, so it is somewhat impossible to compare our ability to articulate a sentence with a bats ability to navigate at high speeds in pitch black. Even in humans we have different forms of intelligence (Street smart:cool: vs. Book smart:hippy:) so even WE can't really compare "intelligence." Does that make sense? It's late...

Yes, it does makes sense. To elaborate, those "stupid" other mammals (and many other living things on this planet) have found their place in this world without destroying the balance. I think when arguing smarts that should be taken into consideration.


I just think humans are a bunch of self-important arseholes. No other species is so singularly self-destructive on the levels that we are. It's downright shameful. I think our reign at the top of the food chain will eventually need balancing out if we are to extend the length of our stay on earth's massive time line. No species can carry on the way we are without some serious adjustments.

[PlainJane]

It's nice to think of humans as really smart and refined... but intelligence is really a relative term. Subjective? Hmm... what word? It's based on perspective. Yeah, we can build fancy stuff and dial phones... but I doubt we could survive many environments that so called "stupid" mammals can thrive in. We base intelligence off of our survival skills, so it is somewhat impossible to compare our ability to articulate a sentence with a bats ability to navigate at high speeds in pitch black. Even in humans we have different forms of intelligence (Street smart:cool: vs. Book smart:hippy:) so even WE can't really compare "intelligence." Does that make sense? It's late...

Yes, it does makes sense. To elaborate, those "lesser" other mammals (and many other living things on this planet) have found their place in this world without destroying the balance. I think when arguing smarts that should be taken into consideration.


I just think humans are a bunch of self-important arseholes. No other species is so singularly self-destructive on the levels that we are. It's downright shameful. I think our reign at the top of the food chain (in a matter of speaking) will eventually need balancing out if we are to extend the length of our stay on earth's massive time line. No species can carry on the way we are without some serious adjustments.

[SFGurrilla]

true

if going by religious accounts, Noah came, a vast area of what was then inhabited world-if not the whole world by other accounts- got flooded to the point only his ship survived the storm and then back at square 1 in no time, maybe the surviving humans dont act like viruses for a generation or so... we are "made" to act like that one way or another... and as soon as 1 starts acting like that it will just be a ripple effect and others will follow suit!

Floods? Ill be safe on my friend 110 ft. Sea Line Boat.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Yes, it does makes sense. To elaborate, those "lesser" other mammals (and many other living things on this planet) have found their place in this world without destroying the balance. I think when arguing smarts that should be taken into consideration.


I just think humans are a bunch of self-important arseholes. No other species is so singularly self-destructive on the levels that we are. It's downright shameful. I think our reign at the top of the food chain (in a matter of speaking) will eventually need balancing out if we are to extend the length of our stay on earth's massive time line. No species can carry on the way we are without some serious adjustments.



Humanity has always managed to leave me feeling ashamed and pissed off... when you look at the balance of nature, it is SO beautiful it ALMOST makes one forget how shitty humanity's impact on the world is...

We are so self destructive indeed, on a level of thought that i cannot ascribe words to... AND i just lost that thought, so go ahead and disregard that :P

[Jay Matix]

Humanity has always managed to leave me feeling ashamed and pissed off... when you look at the balance of nature, it is SO beautiful it ALMOST makes one forget how shitty humanity's impact on the world is...

We are so self destructive indeed, on a level of thought that i cannot ascribe words to... AND i just lost that thought, so go ahead and disregard that :P

True humans really are destructive creatures..

Its crazy to think.. there are more stars in space than grains of sand on the earth.. and stars and million times bigger than the earth.. we are only alive because of our proximity to a tiny burning star called "THE SUN" that gives us energy to live and have LIFE.

When you start thinking this way.. makes you feel very tiny in this huge universe :jointsmile:

[gypski]

True humans really are destructive creatures..

Its crazy to think.. there are more stars in space than grains of sand on the earth.. and stars and million times bigger than the earth.. we are only alive because of our proximity to a tiny burning star called "THE SUN" that gives us energy to live and have LIFE.

When you start thinking this way.. makes you feel very tiny in this huge universe :jointsmile:

With all known scientific evidence, humans are the only species on the earth that can bring about their own extinction. And with the leaders running the world today, the escalator is moving in that direction. Maybe that's what the earth needs to recover itself, the extinction of its worst threat. Us. :jointsmile:

[Islandborn]

The earth that we live on is just a small rock in this constantly expanding universe.

If you fly into Los Angeles. You go over all of the beautiful fields and mountains, then all of a sudden you see LA and all of that disgusting pollution. If you looked at the earth as a living organism you would look at LA and you'd think (thats CANCER). Well I think that is our purpose as human beings. Much like mold takes over a sandwich. I think thats what people do. I think we are just a more complicated form of bacteria. And all of the thoughts of ourselves are just biological tricks set up to keep the human race alive and perpetuating.




thoughts? :stoned:

So true.....flying into LAX looks like flying into Beijing China on most days. Nasty.

Humans are a insignificant speck of nothing on this giant planet.

[BubbleDieselElf]

That is basically from the matrix.:rastasmoke::rambo: