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DrSeuss
08-19-2008, 12:18 AM
Ok, so the deal is, I only had one pot for two plants, so i took the plants out and seperated the pot with plastic. Anyway, during this process, half of both root systems were destoyed :( So when I put them back in at a 24/0 veg cycle, the leaves just kinda turned completely down. So to help the root system grow back, I turned the lights off and they seemed to improve, the leaves were straight up again. So I turned them back on and within an hour, they were back down. So I had the lights off for about 7 hours last night, turned them on this morning, and at this time, the leaves are like halfway. I guess they are improving, but my question is, should I just keep them on 24/0 right now, or turn the lights off tonight, then resume the 24/0 tomarrow? (btw the soil was damp and was watered today)

SAP420
08-19-2008, 01:54 AM
My thought would be that they only do that when the light is on.... then maybe they are getting too hot. What kind of temp are you keeping the growspace around? Heat will make the plants wilt a bit. Make sure you have a way of keeping the heat in check.

SAP420
08-19-2008, 01:56 AM
Also don't water too much either cuz that can cause the problem. You should only water when the top layer of the soil is dry to the touch.

DrSeuss
08-19-2008, 01:56 AM
oh, ok, thank you, i'm about to raise my lamp... :jointsmile:

bayareapurps
08-19-2008, 03:50 AM
u shouldnt have them on 24/0 dude thats why your plants r tweaked out.... put them on 18/6 n they will do much better... your plant grows at night.... so if u dont have a bedtime for them they will either be hermaphradite... or shocked to death...

SunnyD
08-19-2008, 03:52 AM
u shouldnt have them on 24/0 dude thats why your plants r tweaked out.... put them on 18/6 n they will do much better... your plant grows at night.... so if u dont have a bedtime for them they will either be hermaphradite... or shocked to death...

Not true

Yes plants do grow at night, but a lot of people have had great success with 24/0 veg lighting

bayareapurps
08-19-2008, 04:00 AM
yes it is true... your plantswont grow untill u shut off the light... so if u do 24/0 for how ever u wont see a MAJOR defference untill u shut off light .... like with sativa's the trick is too shut off lights for 3 days.... THEY WILL GROW..... like 1 -2 feet.... your plants needs to rest it's alive... so think off it how would u feel if u were up 24/7 wid no sleep u wouldnt function right... well plants r the same...

cigarettes42
08-19-2008, 10:00 AM
yes it is true... your plantswont grow untill u shut off the light... so if u do 24/0 for how ever u wont see a MAJOR defference untill u shut off light .... like with sativa's the trick is too shut off lights for 3 days.... THEY WILL GROW..... like 1 -2 feet.... your plants needs to rest it's alive... so think off it how would u feel if u were up 24/7 wid no sleep u wouldnt function right... well plants r the same...

wow you should be banned for giving advice like that. ive always vegged in 24/0 and always had no problems... there is nothing wrong with the lights on 24 hours for veg. some people say it vegs faster some people just say that it wastes electric. if you shut your lights out for 3 days your going to shock the plant into flowering stage then possibly herm if you keep doing that

stinkyattic
08-19-2008, 01:15 PM
LOL!!! I've NEVER run 18/6.
By your logic, I should NEVER have had any plants grow!

Here's a good rule to follow:
If you are convinced that your plant is in shock from transplant, root trimming, root rot, etc., MAINTAIN your previous light schedule and DECREASE the intensity of the light. The thrid thing I do is do a LIGHT foliar mist of an anti-transpirant- lately I've been using SMC leaf shine.

The point is, photoperiod changes add stress. So don't change that. But if your plant is transpiring water faster than the roots can replace it, you're in trouble, so slow the plant down by raising the lights.

I have a 'backup' t5 fixture in my grow room so if I have a problem I can just kill the HIDs and run flourescent until the danger has passed.

DrSeuss
08-20-2008, 01:34 AM
oh, ok, thanks stinky. my plants are already doing better, most of the leaves are looking up :)

bayareapurps
08-20-2008, 07:51 AM
u will have a shoter plant but clser nodes thats really about it oh yeah not to forget the high eletric bill.... i do 18/6 n use liquid light n average 6 inches a day.... i see how much they grow every day in vegg... n i use a couple 1000's n my room so i dont need to go 24/0 n when u turn off the light's for a day your plant will grow like shit cause it thinks it's gonna die... thats a trick to try... but do it right b4 bloom it will reset your plants internal clock

Dreadscale
08-20-2008, 02:23 PM
Hey all!!! :thumbsup:

24/7 or 18/6 they both work fine for me.

My question is, under which lighting schedule will my plants grow taller, faster? or Is the growth rate related more to the light intensity?

As of the moment I only use 24/7 then into 12/12.

All input is very welcome and sorry DrSeuss, I'm not trying to jack your thread.

Rusty Trichome
08-20-2008, 04:31 PM
Heat stress will do exactly what you described to an injured plant. Like stinky said...raise the lights, and spray the leaves every once in a while. (keep them lightly hydrated) After a few days, will likely see some die-off which is natural. A few days after that, should start seeing the new growth.


.... i do 18/6 n use liquid light n average 6 inches a day.... i see how much they grow every day in vegg
6" a day? Every day...? Bullshit. I would give my left nut to get a cannabis plant that grows 40ish inches per week indoors. Your disinformation is quite amusing, tho. (full veg height in a week...an amazing fantasy)

But seriously...Where do you get your information from...? I would think twice, before making-up answers to something about which you seem to have no clues about. Especially in the Plant Problems arena. How would you feel if someone gave you bullshit 'opinions', and it killed your plants?

stinkyattic
08-20-2008, 05:19 PM
But seriously...Where do you get your information from...? IWell, specific instances in which he has blatantly plagiarized entire posts from other sites, I've actually linked to the originals.
The rest of it... I dunno, but I'll bet a doctor with a flashlight could point ya in the right direction...

rhizome
08-20-2008, 06:33 PM
The funny thing is, ya only have to see the string " purps", and ya know yer dealing with an idiot.

Yet to see that syllable typed by an intelligent person.

stinkyattic
08-20-2008, 09:22 PM
The funny thing is, ya only have to see the string " purps", and ya know yer dealing with an idiot.
Yet to see that syllable typed by an intelligent person.

Pulps
Burps
Turds

DAmmit it doesn't work. :mad:

Fencewalker
08-20-2008, 11:09 PM
Hey all!!! :thumbsup:

24/7 or 18/6 they both work fine for me.

My question is, under which lighting schedule will my plants grow taller, faster? or Is the growth rate related more to the light intensity?

As of the moment I only use 24/7 then into 12/12.

All input is very welcome and sorry DrSeuss, I'm not trying to jack your thread.
Cannabis is a C3 plant, meaning it does not need a dark period. Photosynthesis occurs during the light period.
So if you want the fastest growth, use 24/0. If you want to decrease your utility bill or keep heat down or whatever, use 18/6.

veggii
08-20-2008, 11:17 PM
perps I got it! LoL
I'm going too say the heat Dr Suess heat is more critical indoors !! I just found out hardway. I was looking for drooping leave problems and stumble on your thread. today I figured out why mine were drooping!! My friggin thermostat lied to me!! said it 85 and it was really 95 drove me crazy for a week !! fixed heat no more droopin GL
always listen to stinky she knowes her shit man :thumbsup:

norcalkush
08-21-2008, 01:36 AM
dont underlook the 1000 watt lol i have personaly seen plants grow 3-5 inches a day no joke using sensi grow a&b liquid light, Dr.noDes, and and rizO.... but yet again u se 6 1000's

norcalkush
08-21-2008, 03:06 AM
we dhave ultimate weather condition outside in cali... untill u move to cali u can say nuthin bout 6 inches a day... my plants grow 3 inches a day.... im ready to bloom in two weeks..... the first wek i have clones i only give them rhizo n folar nitrogen on the leaves and im at about a foot a week

Rusty Trichome
08-21-2008, 12:15 PM
... untill u move to cali u can say nuthin bout 6 inches a day... my plants grow 3 inches a day.... im ready to bloom in two weeks..... the first wek i have clones i only give them rhizo n folar nitrogen on the leaves and im at about a foot a week

Sure would love to see you put your money where your mouth is. But again, just like "perp"...you are full of shit.
Matter of fact, you seem to use the same spelling errors, and the same loose interpretation of the english language. Looking to me like y'll are one and the same. Oh look...I see you've been banned too. Imagine that...:jointsmile:

Wonder who he'll come back as next time...?

veggii
08-21-2008, 02:58 PM
Sure would love to see you put your money where your mouth is. But again, just like "perp"...you are full of shit.
Matter of fact, you seem to use the same spelling errors, and the same loose interpretation of the english language. Looking to me like y'll are one and the same. Oh look...I see you've been banned too. Imagine that...:jointsmile:

Wonder who he'll come back as next time...?

I second that !! I got good laugh outta him rofl !! very funny !

Dr Suess so yesterday after i figured out the heat problems and posted online that I fixed my drooping problem. guess what?? I look in on the girls and they are droopin again !! grrrrrrrrrr... so I went on a hour long rampage looking for my grow bible, finally found it and for drooping it says overwatered so gonna let them dry out and be very careful watering them,and yes stinky I am gonna drill some more holes in my containers today!! Its just so hard not too give them some water everyday anyhow try cutting back your water see if they perk up then ..GL how are they doing?

Rusty Trichome
08-21-2008, 03:49 PM
So Doc...how are they today...any changes?

DrSeuss
08-22-2008, 04:39 AM
oh yeah, big changes, lol, I raised the lamp to about 9" (just to see if I could get a dramatic change) and the next day, I noticed the lower leaves were yellowing. But the yellowing did not get worse the day after, and guess what?!? New Growth! :) haha, also, I've been noticing that one has stayed low while the other is shooting up. They are both exactly 2 weeks and 6 days old, but one is only 2" tall, and is just kinda laying low and developing a canopy, while the other is 2 1/2", and the stem has split at 1" into two stems, or I guess you could call it "two colas".

veggii
08-22-2008, 04:44 AM
my droopin has returned this evening they have been good all day I am out of Ideas as to why :(

DrSeuss
08-22-2008, 02:14 PM
Did you water them? (over watering might be the problem). And, is it just the leaves, or is it like branches or the whole stem? If you watch a time-lapse marijuana grow video, you will see the leaves droop very frequently, (they kinda rise up slowly then droop really quickly, then rise up slowly then droop...) but they always come back up.

Rusty Trichome
08-22-2008, 03:21 PM
my droopin has returned this evening they have been good all day I am out of Ideas as to why :(

Can sometimes help to keep a log. Keeping track of what you do and the results of your actions, helps with troubleshooting.

veggii
08-22-2008, 03:51 PM
no didn't water yesterday soil still damp this morn so this mornin they are drooping still :mad: temp is apprx 82, i'm about to give this up they look like they go to sleep ?but lights are on ? better go puff before i explode :mad: :mad: :mad:

Rusty Trichome
08-22-2008, 04:38 PM
Any way to test your water ph, and run-off ph?

Fencewalker
08-22-2008, 07:29 PM
Pop them out of the container and check your root system as well...Might be time to put them in a bigger pot.

veggii
08-22-2008, 10:44 PM
alright I think I got it friggin roomate shut AIR off choke'n my girls no O2 {not kool} !!! gonna choke him see if he likes it ...:thumbsup:
no friggin treats for him !!