View Full Version : solar vaping is the baddest ass vaping technique
solar dan
08-08-2008, 03:19 AM
one can use any magnifying glass (3.5inch is more than enough and too much for kids and other immatures - 1.0inch max, and confined to the shade for them).
a simple 3.5inch magnifier (shouldn't cost more than $5...) can be used as a solar torch, a solar vaporizer, a substitute for a butane lighter or matches (during sunlight hours, anyway) - and it, with a regular glass bowl (it works on hookas too, and it actually can burn most anything that is exposed to direct sunlight - and it delivers better than almost any other vaporizing method. it is also less likely to cause a soar throat from bad smoke.
solar vaping is the purest, the most delicious (no scorching of herb), the most efficient, the most natural, the most economical (a tiny bit of herb can cause a headrush...), and it is the most controllable combustion - and therefore it delivers full potency. herb comes out smoking with the potency of good hash. it is just about the highest thc delivery method (if thc were an engine (and please forgive the sacreligious comparison), it would be like carbing the engine so that it delivers 300miles/gallon. seriously, folks.
the recommended technique is as simple as any other 9-step program: (1) place the herb into a regular glass bowl/pipe and turn the bowl so that the herb faces the sun; (2) line up the magnifier over the bowl and perpendicular to the sun; (3) move the magnifying glass away from the bowl and towards the sun, while keeping it perpendicular to the sun, until there is a very round bright spot the size of a quarter - there should be no smoke at this point!); (3a) move the bowl together with the quarter-sized brightspot to your mouth and be ready to start to take a long drag off the bowl (CAUTION: inhale only as much thc as you can handle - solar vaping is extremely potency!); (4) make a brief fire-check - make sure you're perfectly lined up with the sun, and get ready to let er rip; (5) READY - FIRE - VAPE: pull back the magnifier about 1.0inch, in the direction of the sun, until you get as much smoke as you are able to inhale; (6) keep vaping the herb (i.e. control your fire so that the herb does NOT burn on its own) and burn it off a little bit at a time (ideally, when you're done inhaling (for whatever reason...), the remaining herb should self-extinguish; (6a) just for kicks (if you did it right) - check and look how little damage you did to your herb; (7) trip responsibly, have a good time, enjoy, be healed and heal the planet; and (8) if you liked it, give thanks by passing it on; and (9) if you really liked it - join the solar legion and become a soldier of peace in an army of one.
WARNING: A MAGNIFYING GLASS IS SAFE ONLY IN THE SHADE. A MAGNIFYING GLASS IN THE SUN CAN CAUSE SEVERE INJURY, INCLUDING EYE INJURY. Immature humans (kids or otherwise) should not play with magnifying glasses larger than 1.0inch (quarter-size) without close adult supervision. Due to the high efficiency of this thc delivery method, you may want to ask your 215 doctor before trying.
peace up everyone
illnillinois
08-08-2008, 03:39 AM
looks cool, but must smokers i know dont wake up or leave the couch til after the sun goes down.:rolleyes:
TheMetal1
08-08-2008, 03:59 AM
well... yeah :thumbsup: I've been busting sunny's out for a hot minute :stoned:
Preaching the boards too :jointsmile:
[Sun] and a magnifying glass. It's like peas and carrots. :thumbsup: Taste's great, nutritious(not evaluated by FDA), and I guess you could get all spiritual about it too with the whole sun, purity, nature combo. Reminds me to wake up early and get those first beams. :jointsmile:
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-com-lounge/156792-alternatives-butane-lighters.html
... tryin'a get some followers. Take 'em to church :hippy:
Also, I agree... kids DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME... or anywhere. Get'cha face peeled off quick trying to wake and bake. Not a good look :stoned:
215helpsme
08-08-2008, 04:14 AM
solar bowls are my daily fave :thumbsup: cant beat that taste
trancefusion5
08-08-2008, 05:58 AM
Solar puffing is nice, in fact its been way too long! Thanks for the reminder, I got magnifying glasses to go around!
solar dan
08-08-2008, 01:54 PM
great posts in the 'alternatives to butane, and my solar legionair's salute to all solar hitters.
however, it needs to be stressed that solar vaping is not just a substitute to a butane lighter (although it is that, too) - it is a vaporizer that is natural, inexpensive, 'cordless' (and no batteries required), endlessly reusable, cheap, clean, compact, light-weight, wind-proof, water-proof, with an 'instant trigger' and precision fire and heat control - and solar vaping should be used that way to get the full efficiency. otherwise, only the first hit is vapor (or very clean smoke that is minimally iritating to the throat), but the rest is regular smoking if the herb catches fire and burns itself.
TheMetal1
08-08-2008, 02:02 PM
While it is an alternative to lighters, matches, etc... it is not a replacement.
How do you smoke when it's cloudy out? Or do you take the day off? ;)
I will say that I haven't really "vaped" with the sun... just used it, in conjunction with a magnifying glass, to ignite a bowl and keep it toking. I see what you are suggesting and next time I get some sun around here... I'll give it a shot. :hippy:
Hollywierdtoker
08-08-2008, 02:12 PM
Gonna try in 2-3 hours when the sun is out nice and strong, I'll report with results.
trancefusion5
08-08-2008, 02:27 PM
I was wondering if this would really be considered vaping cuz everytime ive done it the bud always burns to ash and i blow out smoke not vape. I had to ask.
NaughtyDreadz
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
looks cool, but must smokers i know dont wake up or leave the couch til after the sun goes down.:rolleyes:
speak for yourself... my first bowl is at 7:30 am... then about 10k bike ride with my dog...
would be nice... but I got shit to do, son...:thumbsup:
RobPA
08-08-2008, 06:50 PM
looks cool, but must smokers i know dont wake up or leave the couch til after the sun goes down.:rolleyes:
Off topic, but this comment made me LOL..... So true so true. Although my best stoner friend owns his own construction company, so hes up at like 5am everyday and partying till 11am everynight! I dont know how he does it. I will try this method when I can get to a private location outside to try it!
solar dan
08-08-2008, 07:03 PM
TheMetal1: "Also, I agree... kids DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME... or anywhere."
important point - don't want kids to hurt themselves or start a fire!
to make a magnifier safe for kids, all one has to instruct them that they can play with the magnifier ONLY/STRICTLY IN THE SHADE ("don't let the sun see you...."), where it is basically harmless and safe.
i've had good experiences demonstrating the power of a magnifying glass in the sun. i obviously don't teach kids about solar vaping. instead they get a lesson in energy, physics, optics, geometry and FIRE SAFETY, and they'll learn all the fun kids' stuff that one can do with a magnifying glass, they get look at objects far and near through the magnifier.
under close grown-up supervision, kids may/can be allowed to do solar engraving on wood (never plastic). for kids i recommend small magnifying glasses - about 1inch. smaller magnifying glasses burn less hot and significantly slower.
imho, giving kids as much knowledge as they can handle is far better than just saying "no!" to them. it only results in arousing the kids' curiosity, but deprives them of knowledge and understanding.
this may be somewhat off topic - but it is an important point.
illnillinois
08-08-2008, 07:18 PM
looks cool, but must smokers i know dont wake up or leave the couch til after the sun goes down.:rolleyes:
speak for yourself... my first bowl is at 7:30 am... then about 10k bike ride with my dog...
would be nice... but I got shit to do, son...:thumbsup:
Off topic, but this comment made me LOL..... So true so true. Although my best stoner friend owns his own construction company, so hes up at like 5am everyday and partying till 11am everynight! I dont know how he does it. I will try this method when I can get to a private location outside to try it!
:) My reply was just to make some people smile while pointing out some bit of truth.
I awake every morning at 6:30am(and not by choice, 3 toddlers *3year olds* that are like clockwork) I work 8-10 a day and return home to be a father to 4 kids to the best of my ability.
I know 90% of smokers are responsible and the comment doesn't apply. I am glad we have a lot of great people on the board and can smoke for treatment or for fun, and not be a burden on society..
illnillinois
08-08-2008, 07:23 PM
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would be nice... but I got shit to do, son...:thumbsup:
who you call'n son. I'm older then you boy! :D
not by much but i got a few months on you :)
solar dan
08-08-2008, 07:51 PM
transfusion5 asked: "I was wondering if this would really be considered vaping cuz everytime ive done it the bud always burns to ash and i blow out smoke not vape. I had to ask."
it depends on how you control your solar energy and how you look at vaping...
you're vaping when you heat your herb to about 170-185 degrees. the herb will not emit smoke at that temperature, and you'll get the sweetest, least irritating inhalation. i do solar vaping by keeping the magnifier out of focus - i.e. make the bright spot about the size of about 1/4inch diameter and i throttle the heat by moving the magnifier ever-so-slightly towards and away from the sun.
when you see visible smoke - what you see is the cellulose plant material combusting. it starts burning around 240 degrees.
since the hot-zone (that part of the light-cone near the tip/hotspot) is small to begin with, it is difficult, but not impossible, to do smokeless vaping. if smokeless vaping is important - then you should take a long and SLOW DRAG and keep the solar heat to the minimum.
vaping avoids the destruction of the thc crystals from being overheated/scorched - as with butane (which burns at around 280 degrees). even the glowing ember in a spliff is too hot for the thc (about 200-240 degrees, depending on how much/little you stoke the ember) - and that is the reason why the full thc potency is experienced through solar vaping.
if you're not an absolute purist, then, imho, you should not be too concerned about seeing some smoke. most vaporizers emit some amount of smoke. the smoke you get from solar vaporizing (if done properly) is extremely potent and relatively mild on the throat. (but i smoke nicotine too, so you're sensitivity may be much higher...)
the point abot solar vaping is that its cheap, free and fire is clean and easily controllable. after a little practice, you should find a level of carbing the herb that suits your preferences.
the key to vaping is that the herb gets heated from within (kinda like in a microwave), as opposed to being overheated from the outside (as with butane). so, by the time the herb really smokes, you will have gone through the optimal thc combustion temperature - and gotten your full potency out of the herb.
solar vaping (forgive the comparrison) is like having a carburator that delivers 300miles/gallon and you're throttling it as you go.
one lungfull of proper solar vaping usually results in a headrush. so you want to inhale as little or as much as you need/want and can handle. properly vaped, you should only make a small burnspot in your bowl, and the rest of the herb will/should stay green and fresh.
for myself - i mix it up from ultra-light to full-bore firing (with a hooka usually). solar vaping is perfectly for smoking on the go - because its quick, relatively inconspicuous and it delivers a near-instant high - without waste.
trancefusion5
08-09-2008, 03:28 AM
Thanks Solar Dan! I never thought about doing it like that. Ive always tried to get the spot as small as possible to get it fired up as soon as possible I guess with this method patience may go a long way. Thanks again!
vapefiend
08-09-2008, 03:26 PM
Solar vaping is definitely cool. Unlike the BC Vaporizer, which is not worth the money, the BC Solarizer is an inexpensive path to solar vaping if you don't want to DIY.
I do take exception to Dan's statement- "the key to vaping is that the herb gets heated from within (kinda like in a microwave)". Nothing heated from an external source cooks from the inside first. The microwave myth got started because microwaves heat by exciting/vibrating water molecules. Since most of the moisture in food is inside, and there's no browning (the chemical reactions involved in browning occur at higher temps than those produced by microwave ovens), many foods end up hotter on the inside than on the outside.
solar dan
08-10-2008, 12:04 AM
vapefiend said: "Nothing heated from an external source cooks from the inside first."
super-technically, you're probably correct, although some forms of radiation can penetrate and heat from within (but those are lasers). i'm not sure whether solar energy does that too (but it doesn't really matter, imo). those water molecules you mentioned, in the case of microwave cooking, are inside the food that is being cooked, and in meant 'heated from the inside' in that sense.
in the case of solar vaping, what i believe is happening is that those thc crystals get very hot under the concentrated sun (inside the bud), and when they 'overheat,' they quickly go out in a full puff of vapor - mixed with as much smoke as your fire-control allows it.
anyway (to stretch an imperfect analogy a bit further...) - just as there is 'food cooked to perfection,' - solar vaping is like smoking ganja to perfection (for all the good reasons mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
schighguy
08-11-2008, 06:17 PM
is this taking a solar rip or actually vaporizing the weed?
From what it sounds like, it seems that you are just taking solar rips? The vaporizing aspect jkust depends on how manipulate the magnifying glass.
solar dan
08-11-2008, 07:06 PM
is this taking a solar rip or actually vaporizing the weed?
From what it sounds like, it seems that you are just taking solar rips? The vaporizing aspect jkust depends on how manipulate the magnifying glass.
thanks schighuy! that's a good way of putting it. permission 2 use?
SnSstealth
08-11-2008, 07:18 PM
I love solar rips...But I think dan is talking about actually vaporizing the herb, leaving it intact. I have never tried this...sounds like I get to experiment later!!! thanks for the technique idea!!! I have solar ripped for a few years, never tried to vape with it though...
whiskeytango
solar dan
08-12-2008, 02:31 AM
i'm not really sure what to call it.
'rip' sounds good because it correctly implies a really strong sensation (a one-hit headrush), and also the intensity of the solar energy.
by subtly manipulating the intensity of the heat with which u hit the bud with the solar method, u can go from subtly vaping to scorching the herb with pin-point accuracy.
i usually use a 3.5inch magnifyier and i torch it as slow or as fast as i can inhale the smoke (or, depending on whatever kind of hit i feel like taking). on the other hand, if i wanna vape under the hot noon sun, a 1inch magnifyier actually works better, because the herb is less likely to catch fire.
the beauty in this method is that you can have it any way you like it (depending only on the sun). it must also say, however, that it takes a bit of skill to pull a smokeless drag - u'd need to throttle back your fire and breathe very slowly.
even when i 'torch' the herb (and i keep torching as-i-go - until i'm done inhaling), i get much, much higher potency from the herb. but i also get smoke, which i happen not to mind too much. it is, however, some of the mildest and least irritating smokes there is.
so if you want to define vaping as smokeless inhalation, then my method is not strictly a vaping method. but all the vaporizers i've seen do put out some smoke.
i tend to define vaping a bit more loosely as smoking it just right - to perfection, without overheating, with clean energy.
the increase in the amount of smoke through solar vaping/ripping is significant - but then so is the potency of the hit. so, if u look at it that way, its more like high-intensity vaping.
also good vaping often involves breathing a lot of vaporized air (like aroma therapy) - solar vaping is usually just one long drag to about a lung-full.
i hope this helped.
TheMetal1
08-12-2008, 03:04 AM
my method is not strictly a vaping method....
I like your thread and I have enjoyed using the sun as a source of ignition for years.... but I hope you aren't claiming that this is 'your' method. I was first introduced to this at least 10 years ago.... and that was from someone who has been experimenting with sun techniques for years. That's just me. I'm sure there are others that were shown this from an elder.
So, do you mean... your specific style of using a magnifying glass to heat cannabis? Or in fact, this is your original technique?
Side note: I find it next to impossible to go the entire session without myself, or another, igniting the bud. The first few hits, when heat is seriously controlled are very nice and tasty... but between decreasing plant matter, progressive heating of the smoking device, and the "Noob factor"... we pretty much always see smoke. Good stuff though :thumbsup:
solar dan
08-15-2008, 04:43 AM
thanks theMetal1 for giving me the opportunity to clarify that i claim no originality for solar hits.
as for my method - i do, indeed, recommend vaping the herb throughout the entire inhale - if you call that a 'method,' and to try and burn only as much as one inhales.
a 'regular hit,' imo, starts cold and should end cold (so that the herb burns only as long as one inhales), and i advocate trying to capture all of the vapor and smoke. (occasionally that may require to put the fire out.) but, when i go for a big hit, under a strong sun, i just open up the solar torch and i scorch the entire bowl. anything in between is a combination of vapor and smoke, as desired, and as controlled by the synching of the drag/inhale and the amount of solar fire.
Markass
08-15-2008, 04:46 AM
I'm guessing it's environmentally safe as well??:thumbsup:
schighguy
08-18-2008, 05:12 PM
thanks schighuy! that's a good way of putting it. permission 2 use?
solar rip? Its a term i picked up from Grass Valley, and im sure theyd want you to pass it on:pimp:
After actually re-reading this thread, i have answered my own question.....ahh the joys of reading comprehension!!
Im gonna have to bust out my magnifying sheet this afternoon
Mcnizzlebery
08-18-2008, 05:50 PM
I tryed this out. It makes for some tastey hits. But i noticed there is no 'just got ya high' on the poll so i didnt fill anything out. Just gets you high with out butane. Thanks for the info and make surenot to burn yourself. The sun is powerfull when you concentrate it.
Edit: and come on, 2000% increase in potency? Thats pretty funny.
solar dan
08-19-2008, 07:04 PM
it is definitely the greenest way to deliver thc....!
i just got through the solfest @ solar living institute in nor.cali., where i set up a 'solar fire station' - a 4inch magnifier on a pole, and where i preached solar vaping for 2days in a row to a very receptive audience. i introduced solar vaping as an exercise in hand-eye-lung coordination..... and that pretty much conveyes the essence of the magic.
dagshet
08-23-2008, 03:52 AM
anybody try a glass rod with a butane or mapp torch? beats when the sun isnt around. IMHO solar vaping or torch vaping is the most excellent way to get the most taste out of your bud! did i mention grinding gives it a good burn too?
:D:D
solar dan
09-25-2008, 03:12 PM
to Mcnizzlebery:
if you 'just got hi,' you probably didn't vape. try taking one long drag, with the magnifier, so that you capture all the vapor and smoke that is emitted - a "zero-emission" hit, accomplished with simple hand-eye-lung coordination.
as to effeciency, 4x efficiency of thc delivery through vaping, on 1/4 of stash, equals a 16x increase, which is 1600%. maybe, it is 3x efficiency, on 1/7th of bud.... (it is hard to measure such things exactly). anyway, imho, a 2000% increase in efficiency is not an empty claim. solar vaping is truely a (solar) pipe dream...
to dagshet: i agree! a hot glass rod is the 'green' night-time substitute for solar vaping. would be nice to have a magnifier with a glass handle for 24/7 vaping....
Hollywierdtoker
09-25-2008, 06:57 PM
anybody try a glass rod with a butane or mapp torch? beats when the sun isnt around. IMHO solar vaping or torch vaping is the most excellent way to get the most taste out of your bud! did i mention grinding gives it a good burn too?
:D:DAny kind of vaporizing out of a bong, not using a uhh machine with the specific use of vape-ing is always good. Hakko's, heat rods, solar toking, all of them get you the most out of your herb in terms of flavor and potency. Grinding also maximizes them!
abryce
11-17-2008, 08:35 PM
TheMetal1: "Also, I agree... kids DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME... or anywhere."
important point - don't want kids to hurt themselves or start a fire!
to make a magnifier safe for kids, all one has to instruct them that they can play with the magnifier ONLY/STRICTLY IN THE SHADE ("don't let the sun see you...."), where it is basically harmless and safe.
i've had good experiences demonstrating the power of a magnifying glass in the sun. i obviously don't teach kids about solar vaping. instead they get a lesson in energy, physics, optics, geometry and FIRE SAFETY, and they'll learn all the fun kids' stuff that one can do with a magnifying glass, they get look at objects far and near through the magnifier.
under close grown-up supervision, kids may/can be allowed to do solar engraving on wood (never plastic). for kids i recommend small magnifying glasses - about 1inch. smaller magnifying glasses burn less hot and significantly slower.
imho, giving kids as much knowledge as they can handle is far better than just saying "no!" to them. it only results in arousing the kids' curiosity, but deprives them of knowledge and understanding.
this may be somewhat off topic - but it is an important point.
I can't believe this post. When I was a kid we had a chemistry set and would blow things up, make stink bombs, do all sorts of stuff. Now, they are afraid that kids will hurt themselves with a damned magnifying glass.
YOU PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN ALL THE FUN OUT OF BEING KIDS!!! Hurting yourself is all about being a kid, broken bones, stuff in their eyes and yes, even burns. No wonder they are all on drugs. What in the hell else are you leaving for them to do?
I am not saying this to anyone in particular, just that I can't believe this has happened to our world. It is not because of terrorizim that these kids can't do all the wonderful stuff I did as a kid, it is because of you. You who are now worried they will hurt themselves with a magnifier. You that let yourself become so brainwashed that you think this way.
I have been getting ripped for over 40 years so it is my fault too. I guess I was not paying attention as it all slipped away. It all started when they took the wooden boards off the swing seats and put that plastic or rubber thing in there, you couldn't even stand up to swing very well on those and they pinch your ass when you sit and swing. I want the wood seats back. Then lets work on the chemicals in the chemistry sets.
Sorry, just me flippin' on what you sayin' nothin' personal against you all....just wow...:stoned:
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