Odor Control in an Apartment

[Revanche21]

Using those Ionizer things?

you know those towers that supposedly make it allergen free and deodorizes?

would one of those towers be appropriate in a small closet in terms of controlling odor for 4-8 plants?

no worries about heat etc just smell

ps: does the 'ionized' air affect plants?

[Forwhat420]

odor sock or scrubber connected to a small inline..depends on your size closet for cfm. They also have homemade scrubber DYI's on the board. Also I would hope that you are on the top floor?
Apartment growin is scary too many possibilities..Hope you are running just a small disposable amount?

[Forwhat420]

Those ionizers scare me. Dont they use some type of o3?

[Revanche21]

It's open area within the closet
Enhancing plant growth using negative ions (http://www.comtech-pcs.com/printable/ions_plants.html)
says it helps plants possibly?

im looking at something like

The3Q-3Q Ionic Air Purifier (http://www.the3q.com/product3.php)

Produces negative Ions to stabilize air?

[Forwhat420]

He he...above my education level their...lol will let someone else assist you on this one..:pimp:

[Revanche21]

He he...above my education level their...lol will let someone else assist you on this one..:pimp:

Air ioniser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser)

not the same as an ozone generator apparently

you had me scared for a sec for all those poor consumers haha

[Forwhat420]

looks pretty interesting though..would be glad to hear if anyone has experience with it.

[Revanche21]

sounds promising... hope someone can confirm!

[SunnyD]

Ozone generator or one of those Ionic Breeze gadgets could help you out.

Hope this helps

[Revanche21]

Hope this helps

schweeeeet!:rastasmoke:

[skitz0]

i personally dont think it will get rid of any smell. dank > fan [lol]

[SAP420]

I have used an ionic breeze before but it didn't do shit for the odor and came to find out that ozone not a good idea for the plants. Stick with a carbon filter method. Avoid ionizers!

[smoketellidie]

use two carbon filters take one hook it up to the intake side of the blower fan and then the exhaust side of the blower fan hook up the other carbon filter then use a ac unit to control the temp thats my input lmk what u think

[Revanche21]

well if ionizers don't help, that means I have to get an enclosed setup :(

[BlueDevil]

I have used an ionic breeze before but it didn't do shit for the odor and came to find out that ozone not a good idea for the plants. Stick with a carbon filter method. Avoid ionizers!

Yeah, those things are highly overrated. Not a great choice for to use in general from what I've heard and read. Sharper Image got slapped with a lawsuit awhile back for their filtering product(s), never heard what happened to it but I saw in real life what was making people pissed with my own parents. Apparently charged ions do actually cause some odor particles to nose dive to the floor, but it turns out they can also really agitate the sensitive tissues in your respiratory track, doubly so if you have a condition like asthma or COPD. My silly step-dad the chain smoker thought outfitting his bedroom and office with these filters would improve the air quality there for others and make the rooms smell less of cigarettes overrall. Within a few weeks even he noticed he was coughing more and asked me about it. I sent him a print out of stuff I found online concerning the possible health risks. Last time I was home in Florida all of his air filters had been replaced with the classic, activated charcoal/HEPA media based filters. He said he likes them better, the only complaint being the about the noise output of those things.

I really wish he'd ditch those damn cancer sticks, seems a little silly to be concerned about air quality in the home when you're sucking down 2 packs a day. And he goes the extra mile of snipping 90% of the filters off as his lung function is so low he simply can't draw through a complete cig filter. *face to palm* :(

[stinkyattic]

An Ionic Breeze type tower thingy is only useful as a supplemental air purifier. You have to use a REAL scrubber- can be as simple as an odorsok on an inline fan hanging int he closet- and the you would just stick the purifier out in the room to reduce any remaining odor. It is good to deal with stray pollen though.

Good posting up there from BlueDevil too^^^

[jordas]

stinky.....do those odorsok's really do a good job??
I have heard that they were a little weak on big odors?

[stinkyattic]

I'm going to have to say yes, they are a little weak. I would not use one on a commercial sized grow, lol... they make hot water heater sized filters for that! :D
However they are re-useable and keeping them clean according to the instructions should make them work at their best. I think for a small PU grow, like a closet CFL or moderately sized HID grow, they are a great product. I also set onr up as a scrubber, jsut stuck on a spare inline and hung from the ceiling. It's nice how little they cost, that you can keep an extra one kicking around for whatever.

[daihashi]

use two carbon filters take one hook it up to the intake side of the blower fan and then the exhaust side of the blower fan hook up the other carbon filter then use a ac unit to control the temp thats my input lmk what u think

Why would Anyone put a carbon filter on the intake Side that doesn't do anything? I would opt to just run a larger/longer canister on the exhaust side.

[stinkyattic]

You can run a Sok at either end, or at both ends, if your fan is strong enough. I may add a second sok to the intake end of my bloom chamber exhaust.

[daihashi]

You can run a Sok at either end, or at both ends, if your fan is strong enough. I may add a second sok to the intake end of my bloom chamber exhaust.

Are socks not as restrictive as charcoal can filters? I know my 6" 420 CFM inline fan wouldn't be able to handle a filter on the intake and the exhaust side of the fan.

Maybe it would but I question if I would still be able to exchange the air fast enough in the room at that point.

[stinkyattic]

I'm going to say that Soks are less restrictive. But here's the thing with fans: They have a nominal CFM. Now, the ability to MAINTAIN that speed with backpressure or vacuum from a filter at one end will vary by the quality of the fan, not just the type of filter. So your average 'duct booster fan', while it's fine for some small applications, cannot run a filter.

Sorry D I had to go train a grad student- that's why I vanished for a while lol.

[smoketellidie]

Why would Anyone put a carbon filter on the intake Side that doesn't do anything? I would opt to just run a larger/longer canister on the exhaust side.

im talking about the exhaust fan u hook up two filters so theres no Oder i have friends with a medium grow op and there using this setup and it works good im going to be use this setup in a few months so ya and if u still dont know what im talking about i will draw u a pic if u want

[daihashi]

im talking about the exhaust fan u hook up two filters so theres no Oder i have friends with a medium grow op and there using this setup and it works good im going to be use this setup in a few months so ya and if u still dont know what im talking about i will draw u a pic if u want

yeah, I realized I misunderstood what you were saying when stinky replied above me. My bad :thumbsup:

[Projman]

Consider a carbon filter http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/160870-source-activated-carbon.html

The fan will work as hard sucking or blowing. I can't believe I said that...

Anyway, the thought that applying a device at the intake end id more work than at the exhaust end is a myth. Think of it. Same physics either way. Unless the air conduit / hose is easily crushed.