the media tells you what you like

[riffermadness25]

I've been thinking alot lately and just looking around and it seems to me like people are asleep. just like progammed robots it's really sad the media/government can basicaly tell the people anything and they will listen without second thought and it's getting worse and worse.

People (especially in america and uk) are giving up their freedoms and dont even care or take notice

people say the u.s is the most free country in the world but if someone see's something on tv/internet that they dont like they dont just ignore it, they cry to get it banned!

the media can take almost anything and make it look evil

for example bud It's natural, God made it (at least I beleive), it opens your mind etc. etc. the declaration of independence is even made out of hemp paper!

yet the media/governmen has convinced the majority of people it's an evil thing


sorry for the rambling does anyone think some of this stuff too and some firsthand experience with it?

[TheMetal1]

I've never even thought about that.... ;)

Yeah, it all sucks! :thumbsup:
America is practically a baby, and we have a lot of growing up to do. The whole "weed is natural" argument hasn't worked for years. There are plenty of "natural" things that can harm us. Ever rub poison ivy all over your face?

The fact that it bothers you shows that you are on the path to enlightenment. :jointsmile: Most people live and die without ever looking deep and asking the "big" questions. It's a scary world when you start educating yourself... do you get why they refer to it as "The Rabbit Hole" now?

In the meantime... Stay :D and Keep :jointsmile:

Warning: Smoking marijuana may cause you to over-use quotation marks. Please consult your doctor before getting Philosophical after midnight, as this may cause a drop in blood pressure.

[GreenDestiny]

Television is such an addictive piece of shit. I sometimes find myself yelling at it like a madman.... screaming "NO I WILL NOT BUY THAT PRODUCT!" then some ads use irrelevant kinds of reverse psychology and i'm like "that makes me want to boycot your shit!"

cable television... people pay money to watch it AND the commercials. paying money to watch advertisements! TV companies (local and network) are paid money to show their ads in addition to the money we pay them. There's so many ads on tv that WE should be getting paid for watching them, not the other way around. Advertisements are a way to help make services free for people to use which may include other drawbacks like censoring/filtering, but the ads get dropped once you decide to pay for full-access service... sadly it doesn't work that way with cable.

and that's how you know you've lost, as a species. paying for someone else to tell you what to do, where to go, what to eat, etc.

I don't have digital satellite dvr dishnetwork whatever they are, dunno if the same ads pop up on there.

[Coelho]

I agree completly that the people are being manipulated, controlated, brainwashed, whatever, by the media... it became very clear for me since i stopped watching tv some 10 years ago... as i could see from an unbiased perspective, and so notice how large its impact was in my life, greater than i ever suspected... and this influence over people is so great, to the point that some newspapers sometimes put in the first page, together with things that actually matters, what will happen (or happened) in some very watched soap opera...

I also could notice how watching tv decreases ones brain capacity... when youre watching it, the brain is in a very passive state, without thinking, only absorbing whatever the tv present to it... and doing it for large amounts of time makes the brain very lazy, much like doing nothing all the time makes ones body weak and lazy...

[Immolation]

The Media is an insidious Medium.This is but one reason Everyone Should Be a Skeptic.Investigate what you see on TV or read on the Net before you decide a story is True.

[GreenDestiny]

I also could notice how watching tv decreases ones brain capacity... when youre watching it, the brain is in a very passive state, without thinking, only absorbing whatever the tv present to it... and doing it for large amounts of time makes the brain very lazy, much like doing nothing all the time makes ones body weak and lazy...

lol yep. I try to limit what I watch to educational types of programs they have on History channel, National Geo., Discovery, TLC, and even still yet I play an active role in watching instead of absorbing it all in like a vegetable... I debate with the TV and curse it, sounds like I need to be on meds lol, but I sort of critically analyze most of the stuff I see and hear and try to pick out the good stuff; It's sad but I've learned a great deal of things on TV plus it sometimes stimulates my cardiovascular system..... and I'm not talking about porn!

[Iyaman]

the media does shape us. its shapes our 'family values' it shapes what is popular. Its just a matter of time before our primitive minds catch up to our superior intellects and we start to realise what is really good for us. Humans are still young in the history of the universe.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

They say television puts your brain in the same state as when you're dreaming/sleeping, and I believe it! Over-sleep is pretty much as bad for you as under-sleep. Ever slept for many hours beyond what you're used to? You feel groggy, foggy-brained, sorta half-functional.



This thread has really refreshed my hope for humanity; seeing that there are plenty of other people that get it. To think that, in these short lives we are given, millions and millions of people actually waste huge portions of their precious lives watching commercials as entertainment! "OMG! OMG! Turn it up, I love this commercial!" *vomit* What brainless sheeple we've become.

[GreenDestiny]

They say television puts your brain in the same state as when you're dreaming/sleeping, and I believe it! Over-sleep is pretty much as bad for you as under-sleep. Ever slept for many hours beyond what you're used to? You feel groggy, foggy-brained, sorta half-functional.

TV has the potential to put our brains into any state... Light and sound can be modulated to the correct beta, alpha, theta, or delta waves to match our brainwave patterns (brainwave entrainment!). The theta wave range, the one in which we spend most of our time sleeping, increases our susceptibility to subliminal messages / hypnotic suggestions.

The propaganda box is regulated by FCC shit. Government controls the types of signals. What are we really watching?

[Coelho]

Just as an interesting note, in Terrence McKennas book Food of the Gods (which is about psychedelics), there is a chapter about the hardest drugs, and there he talks about Heroine, Cocaine and Television... so we can see what is the true role of tv in peoples daily lives...

[psychocat]

All forms of media should be treat with a little contempt and never take anything for granted. The sheep of the world need to be spoonfed as thinking for themselves makes thier brains hurt. :D

[colour]

I think we can all agree that the media only shows what they are allowed - or told. The Agency wants to keep everyone in a glass box. You can't see out of the box (CC can :jointsmile:) but the rest of the heard cannot. On the outside, the Agency tells their martyrs (newscasters) what to tell the heard: Praise the Almighty; terrorists (though not fully defined) want to kill you; law is the standard of morality; and the rich owe the poor.

Now that the people and their minds - the most powerful weapon on this planet - are drugged with fear and illusion of security and trust, the Agents of Power are free to do whatever it is they do. Steal, kill, slander, lie, cheat and ruin the names of every single American alive and dead (American, remember, anyone - regardless of race, religion, gender, nationalty who believe in true freedom). All in the name of what is good, free and Holy - God? The problem is not one group wanting to control the whole damn world. It is an intellectual problem. Our so-called Intellectual has it all wrong. The do not understand freedom and natural rights.

I point to the current social security issue and Im sorry if its gotten off point. This is a short and very well written Op-ed from the Ayn Rand Institute:

"Retire Social Security (http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/blog/)"

[kshchrn831]

I did a paper for school on the media last summer. I did my research, then made some questions about my research, I thought about it alot, and I really believe the answer I came up with is correct.

Well, one thing that really suprised me was the fact:
- All American media (movies, books, magazine, television,radio etc) are entirely owned by Jewish peoples.

And i had never known that before my research paper. Look it up, its not a conspiracy that the major corporations of America, these money dumps are all owned by Jewish peoples. It is a unstopable working force now (unless we stop listening,reading,watching!).

Put this in your pipe and smoke it! Updated: Who Rules America? (http://www.realnews247.com/who_rules_america_updated_2004.htm)

Stunning Jewish Success Dominates American Media (http://www.rense.com/general60/stun.htm)


But what I am trying to get to is,

What if!? The Jewish owned, American media corporation's, are distracting Americans from the reality's of war occuring across the globe, which keeps America supporting/protecting Israel, which will probably soon be from Iran

I dont really hear much about Israel too. Anyone else notice that?
Last time I heard, their troops are allowed to do what ever they wanted, like the nazi's troops.

...And we support this?

[Breukelen advocaat]

And i had never known that before my research paper. Look it up, its not a conspiracy that the major corporations of America, these money dumps are all owned by Jewish peoples. It is a unstopable working force now (unless we stop listening,reading,watching!).

Put this in your pipe and smoke it! Updated: Who Rules America? (http://www.realnews247.com/who_rules_america_updated_2004.htm)


You might want to consider your sources. The guy in the link you cited, Kevin Alfred Storm, a white supremacist and neo-Nazi, was busted by the feds for child pornography and sentenced to prison.

White Supremacist Busted on Child-Porn Charge

Leading Intellectual of Racist Movement Was Arrested by Federal Agents

By MARCUS BARAM

Jan. 4, 2007 â??


A leader of the white supremacist movement was arraigned today on charges of possession of child pornography and witness tampering after being arrested by FBI agents Thursday night at his home in Charlottesville, Va.

Kevin Alfred Strom, founder of the National Vanguard white supremacist group, was considered the leading intellectual of the movement since the death of William Pierce, the author of the notorious "Turner Diaires."

Strom was arraigned in U.S. District Court in Charlottesville, charged with the two counts, and is currently being held at a facility in the city. According to the indictment, he allegedly possessed or attempted to possess "multiple images of child pornography" on his computer's hard drive.

Strom was also charged with witness tampering, which involved physically assaulting and mentally intimidating a witness to his criminal activity.

Last July, Strom took a leave of absence from National Vanguard, citing "family and health matters" and saying that he had "made mistakes, sometimes serious ones," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks white supremacist activity.

"After the death of Pierce, Kevin positioned himself to take over the leadership of the National Alliance," says Mark Potok, the editor of the SPLC's "Intelligence Report." "But he wasn't in the same position as Pierce and he didn't get the same respect. He was a wannabe and he was considered something of a wimp by other supremacists."

Strom wrote frequently about art and beauty, often rhapsodizing about the physical attributes of white women and girls.

In an 2003 essay titled "Millstone for the Mogul" for the National Alliance's Web site, he condemned the producers of the movie "Thirteen" for "what they are doing to our little children -- teen and preteen White children -- to normalize perverse and degenerate sexual behavior for them, to normalize homosexuality, to prematurely sexualize them, and to make interracial sex fashionable to them -- can never be forgiven, can never be explained away. The media moguls who are doing this to our children deserve to be tried and punished for conspiracy, rape, gang rape, murder and attempted murder."

Later in the essay, he goes on to describe his desire to give children "self-respect, respect for their ancestors, respect for the future of their people, a deep respect for their own sexual nature, and respect for the members of the opposite sex who will be their mates and life companions."

White Supremacist Busted on Child-Porn Charge (http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=2774119)



ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom)

[Coelho]

The fact the author of the article is neo-nazi doesnt change the facts.
The usa IS controlled by jews. Most of the money of usa is from jews, most great industries are owned by jews, etc, etc. And thats the reason because usa supports Israel and fights against Iran, muslims and etc.

[kshchrn831]

Yeah, I guess I should have checked my sources, that dude sounds pretty crazy. But, I was only trying to show its not just conspiracy, so i grabbed the first couple of web sites that resembled my point. I am now glad I did not use Internet sources for my school work :wtf:

[GreenDestiny]

And if Nazi Germany succeeded in killing all the Jews, we'd be stuck watching another form of media brainwashing to distract us from all that is important for basic life functions.



Ok, so some people believe that there was some kind of alien reptilian race trying to enslave mankind. Ever looked at the different races of humans and wonder what they evolved from? Jewish people look a bit reptilian to me. Far out coincidence or some diabolic connection? Cue the twilight zone theme. We're fucked any way it goes, whomever is in power is corrupt.

There's no hope for humanity until all the races have interbred to produce one common race.

Then we'll figure out this whole TV shabang...

[Esoteric416]

I doesn't really matter whos in control. The old addage holds true: Absolute power corrups absolutely. All you can really do is take an objective and analytical view of everything you see hear or read (especially TV) because there is so much in the world today that is being sold to us; its up to us to decide if we buy it or not.
The Buddah said not to beleve anything, even the thing he said, unless you determine it to be the truth for yourSELF. That will always be true.
So just turn off the TV a bit more often, read a few more books, search the internet for info that interests you, and call bullshit on those who are slinging bullshit.

THINK for your life my friends. :D

[delusionsofNORMALity]

i suppose y'all feel you have a pretty good reason for despising television, but what is it you are really so disgusted with? is it the content itself or is it the fact that so many are willing to shut down their minds and absorb those flickering images as reality? are you all so incapable of realizing the medium for what it really is, just another way to amuse ourselves in the off hours of an exhausting day? the real problem seems to be that we are no longer capable of experiencing the world around us with a critical eye. all of our entertainments are crammed full of little cues to lead us toward a socially acceptable frame of mind and no one seems to care because the manipulation is so wide spread.

everywhere we look "green" is the new buzz word and "government" has become synonymous with "caretaker", we are told that interdependence is the highest form of enlightenment and self-interest has been redefined as avarice. all of the things that lead to individuality are slowly being stripped away from us and replaced by the reinforcement of the herd mentality. i'm sure orwell would be dismayed by how little we have heeded his warnings. in our search for something greater than ourselves, we are stopping short of any real answer and settling for the supremacy of the hive. as we quash that glimmer of superiority within us all, our better selves understand this dilemma and seek some reason for this stunting of our social and ethical evolution.

just as the herd mentality is inevitable in such a physically weak species, i suppose it is equally inevitable that a creature with so much potential should seek a whipping boy for its failings. we see in ourselves the possibility of greatness and are unwilling to blame ourselves individually for the failure to live up to that possibility. at the pinnacle of the food chain, we can see no other animal holding us back. only we ourselves can be held guilty for our deficiencies, but that is not to our liking. so we contrive invisible cabals and illusory clockworks, we denounce other factions and even our own inventions and hold them out as the scapegoats for our own lack of progress. it is never us that bears the onus of our failings, it is always them or it that is to blame. unless we are willing to embrace the fact that we are accountable for our own failings, the cycle will go on and on and we will degenerate into the mindless herd animals we evolved from.

[stinkyattic]

Your homework:
Amazon.com: The Fountainhead: Ayn Rand: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Fountainhead-Ayn-Rand/dp/0452273331)
Amazon.com: Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business: Neil Postman, Andrew Postman: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Amusing-Ourselves-Death-Discourse-Business/dp/014303653X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224684168&sr=1-1)

[delusionsofNORMALity]

aw gee, homework? but gosh, it's the weekend and that just doesn't seem fair.


besides, i read the fountainhead years ago. then again, maybe it's time to renew my acquaintanceship with ayn.

[overgrowthegovt]

It's really staggering how effective the media is...

It ensures unquestioned, unconditional American support for a tyrannical state (Israel) at the cost of billions of dollars annually.

It ensures that people ignore high-quality music and open their mouths for the putrid piss that is assembly line modern pop.

Free thought, high art, philosophical discourse, etc. are all under siege. Ever notice how you have to pay extra for HBO? Almost nobody I know has it, and as a result the only programming that could be considered thought-provoking works of art are ignored in favour of MuchMusic, sitcoms, reality TV, etc. Shows like Six Feet Under (where pot is smoked constantly, various ideals and worldviews are explored, corporatism is mocked, etc.) are not widely watched, and so people stare glassy-eyed at the propaganda box, munching on the products they're told to buy.

[Aeroshaft]

The media tells people what they deserve to hear, not what they should. If the bilderberg group or the elites deicde to tell everyone what they are doing, people will go crazy, they'll panic but when they hear doing this bullshit act that has absolutely zero relevance to bettering their lives will, in fact better it, they go with it. People should pursue the truth, but most people don't deserve it; they deserve more. Reality sucks, a lot of people do their own things to get away from it and it's not for everyone. What does an upper-class business man lose from not knowing the conspiracies and the fraudulant acts that go on in the world? Nothing.

Knowledge is power for those who seek it. A mass change in the world where the media doesn't decieve us would call for strong people who are willing to give every single asset of their lives up for what they believe should be done, but we're not there yet.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

you guys are really getting on my nerves. a bunch of disorganized stoners bawwwwwwing on the forums about the way the world is...



LET'S GET ORGANIZED PEOPLE!



Anyone got a hippie bus? good god.