No reaction to bud?

[KingsBlend420]

I haven't posted on here in a while but here goes...

One of my old friends from where I used to live is visiting me for the month and we've been smoking. He's not an experienced smoker or anything and HAS been high before. However, we've smoked several times since he's been here, and he's convinced that he hasn't been high any of those times. It's not the bud we're smoking because we've smoked two different strains on separate occasions and I usually get pretty cheeched and I'm experienced. So I'm not sure what the problem is. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas?

[HerbalConfusion]

I haven't posted on here in a while but here goes...

One of my old friends from where I used to live is visiting me for the month and we've been smoking. He's not an experienced smoker or anything and HAS been high before. However, we've smoked several times since he's been here, and he's convinced that he hasn't been high any of those times. It's not the bud we're smoking because we've smoked two different strains on separate occasions and I usually get pretty cheeched and I'm experienced. So I'm not sure what the problem is. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas?

Simple hes not inhaling weed doesnt not work on people lmao.

[Storm Crow]

Goes like this- Most folks make a lot of chemicals called endocannabinoids. Your body needs them for all sorts of things. Some folks don't make enough. Plant cannabinoids, like THC can do the same jobs as endocannabinoids and are "gobbled up" by any "hungry" cell it gets near- the molecules of THC never have a chance to reach your brain. This goes on until the cells are "full" and some of the THC finally makes it to the brain. :D

Dr. Russo did some studies on endocannabinoid deficiency - I think I have one in my link below, or else it's in my New Year's post. Medicated a bit ago, so I fergit which one! ;) Or just google it. :)

Keep on toking!

-Granny:hippy:

[GreenDestiny]

Goes like this- Most folks make a lot of chemicals called endocannabinoids. Your body needs them for all sorts of things. Some folks don't make enough. Plant cannabinoids, like THC can do the same jobs as endocannabinoids and are "gobbled up" by any "hungry" cell it gets near- the molecules of THC never have a chance to reach your brain. This goes on until the cells are "full" and some of the THC finally makes it to the brain. :D

Dr. Russo did some studies on endocannabinoid deficiency - I think I have one in my link below, or else it's in my New Year's post. Medicated a bit ago, so I fergit which one! ;) Or just google it. :)

Keep on toking!

-Granny:hippy:

WOW! that's the first time I've heard of that explanation, it makes total sense to me now, my crazy idea that people are deficient is not crazy after all. I was thinking that since we do make some endocannabinoids but not much of them, so consuming more from cannabis makes us better, then it's a lot like some essential chemicals that we need to stay really healthy... mentally and physically. Granny, you're awesome. Now I've got some more research to do...

[Storm Crow]

Clinical Endocannabinoid Deficiency
http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/clinical.pdf


The endocannabinoid system is dysregulated in multiple sclerosis
The endocannabinoid system is dysregulated in multiple sclerosis and in experimental autoimmune encephalomyelitis -- Centonze et al., 10.1093/brain/awm160 -- Brain (http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/awm160v1)


Cannabinoids inhibit neurodegeneration in models of multiple sclerosis
Cannabinoids inhibit neurodegeneration in models of multiple sclerosis -- Pryce et al. 126 (10): 2191 -- Brain (http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/126/10/2191)

Migraine may be related to under production of cannabinoids
http://www.illinoisnorml.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=755


(This next one is an interesting thread with the URL to the study right at the top)
The Endocannabinoid System as an Emerging Target
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Endocannabinoid System as an Emerging Target (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=93922&highlight=endocannabinoid)

(This one has several studies discussed in this special issue of the journal)
Vol. 25, 2004 Published (http://www.nel.edu/Press/2004_published.htm)


Endocannabinoids: Multi-scaled, Global Homeostatic Regulators of Cells and Society
Yahoo! Search Results for "endocannabinoid deficiency" (http://cache.search.yahoo-ht2.akadns.net/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22endocannabinoid+deficiency%22&fr=yfp-t-501&u=files.meetup.com/238139/Endocannabinoids%2520Multiscaled%252C%2520Global%2 520Homeostatic%2520Regulators%2520.pdf&w=%22endocannabinoid+deficiency%22&d=STsiXi72Q8g2&icp=1&.intl=us)


That ought to keep you busy! LOL- Granny:hippy:

[Danyoson]

Wow, and you really do learn something everyday. Iv'e never heard of that but... sounds very plausible. I was going to ask how you guys were smoking it? I know for me glass is best. Joints are ok but it takes a lot and blunts, which my younger generation friends love, never seem to do it for me. I always thought the tobacco tainted the weed too much. But good weed in glass always does the trick. Maybe just a change in the way you smoke will help.

[dragonrider]

One idea I had is this: After he smokes, wave your hands past either side of his head really fast to simulate the effect of going down a road at very high speed and say, "Whooooosh! Whooooosh! Whooooosh! Are you SURE you're not high? Are you SURE?" Then he will either admit that he is high, or he will punch you in the nose.

[IanCurtisWishlist]

the best way to get people high when they don't want to inhale it is to bake some hashish into a cookie/brownie/cake and then give it to them. i'm telling you, if you eat 1 gram of hashish in a cookie you will feel really really really goooood. 2 grams will make you feel like you're talking to god (because you're tripping so hard) it's one of the best thing i've ever done you should try it if you have not!

i guess i have a soft spot in my heart for overdosing on cannabis. well it's not toxic to your organs so it is my theory that we all should be overdosing on cannabis brownies.

[Storm Crow]

Vape, glass pipe, bone pipe- order depends on how I'm feeling. Vaping gives a "lighter" but equally stony high. Vapes are much healthier. Pipes are quicker and more simple. At night, the combustion products produce a sleepier high. All depends.

I'm also baking a lot more lately. I have a batch of muffins ready to come out in a minute. Vape leavings, bud and leaves mixed with 100% whole wheat flour, splenda (diabetic :cool:), hemp seed, walnuts, and raisins. Lots of cinnamon -good for blood sugar levels and it helps to cover the pot smell! The hubby's pain responds much better to edibles!

I do believe it is time for a snack!- Granny:hippy:

[HerbalConfusion]

Vape, glass pipe, bone pipe- order depends on how I'm feeling. Vaping gives a "lighter" but equally stony high. Vapes are much healthier. Pipes are quicker and more simple. At night, the combustion products produce a sleepier high. All depends.

I'm also baking a lot more lately. I have a batch of muffins ready to come out in a minute. Vape leavings, bud and leaves mixed with 100% whole wheat flour, splenda (diabetic :cool:), hemp seed, walnuts, and raisins. Lots of cinnamon -good for blood sugar levels and it helps to cover the pot smell! The hubby's pain responds much better to edibles!

I do believe it is time for a snack!- Granny:hippy:

Granny is there anything you can use besides splenda that stuff is no good. :hippy:

[GreenDestiny]

Check out the herbal-based sweetener called Stevia. I have a little on hand in case I need to sweeten anything that won't jive with my brown sugar.


from wikipedia:

With its extracts having up to 300 times the sweetness of sugar, stevia has garnered attention with the rise in demand for low-carbohydrate, low-sugar food alternatives. Stevia also has shown promise in medical research for treating such conditions as obesity and high blood pressure. Stevia has a negligible effect on blood glucose, even enhancing glucose tolerance; therefore, it is attractive as a natural sweetener to diabetics and others on carbohydrate-controlled diets.

and btw, thanks for the links! I was having a hard time searching with google; kept finding the same thing over and over.

[Storm Crow]

In fact, it's the sweetener I use most. But the hubby HATES it, so for baking the muffins, I use splenda. :( But he's beginning to wonder about it's health effects, so it may be phased out soon! :)

I buy one pound of stevia about once a year- I drink a lot of tea. Owl's Nest Plantation is the place with the best price- comes to less than $40 with S&H! Cheaper than the health food store! :thumbsup:

BulkHerbsandSpice.Com, All Natural Bulk Herbs & Spices! (http://www.bulkherbsandspice.com/home.asp)

Nice folks and good service last time I ordered!

- Granny:hippy:

[deathduck]

#1. Make sure you are smoking from a bong. Most other methods are prone to mess-up if you don't have experience.

#2. Make sure he is doing it correctly, take a medium sized hit and make sure he holds it deep for 8 seconds.


Follow these 2 guidelines and smoke 2 bowls, and then see if he doesn't think he is high.

95% of the time, it works every time :thumbsup:.

[melodious fellow]

Goes like this- Most folks make a lot of chemicals called endocannabinoids. Your body needs them for all sorts of things. Some folks don't make enough. Plant cannabinoids, like THC can do the same jobs as endocannabinoids and are "gobbled up" by any "hungry" cell it gets near- the molecules of THC never have a chance to reach your brain. This goes on until the cells are "full" and some of the THC finally makes it to the brain. :D



I wonder if by consuming cannabis twice a day or more for many years, if the body slows or stops its own natural endocannabinoid production... kinda like testosterone and steroids?

And why can't endocannabinoid be in the dictionary (after all, it is a medically documented deficiency for some) so that it doesn't have to be underlined in red... :wtf:

Any other reviews of stevia, post 'em! I am always looking for natural things to cook with, and Splenda is scary carcinogenic. Isn't it crazy how many American companies (almost all major fast food corps, Splenda, companies using trans-fats, etc) blatantly poison people everyday, with serious and sometimes fatal consequences, yet the natural and safe herbs remain taboo, with the most ignorant attempting to enact jokey prohibition laws. Some kinda irony...

peace :rastasmoke: