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dj00140
07-11-2008, 03:59 AM
So I only have a liquid pH tester and these ferts discolor my water, I was wondering if anyone who uses tiger bloom or molasses could tell me how it affects your pH, I can get my water to 6 or 7 before adding it in but how big of a change it will it make to the pH and in which direction? thanks!

I didnt realize i couldnt delete the other thread, sorry about the double post

Roasty420
07-11-2008, 07:47 PM
So I only have a liquid pH tester and these ferts discolor my water, I was wondering if anyone who uses tiger bloom or molasses could tell me how it affects your pH, I can get my water to 6 or 7 before adding it in but how big of a change it will it make to the pH and in which direction? thanks!

I didnt realize i couldnt delete the other thread, sorry about the double post

uhh well i usually use the two separately ya kno. molasses can really make ur ph pretty high....have u ever added a lil epsom salt to ur herbz yet?

Roasty420
07-11-2008, 07:48 PM
edit: is that ur ass in ur av?:D

stinkyattic
07-11-2008, 07:52 PM
Be real careful adding epsom salts to the fert solution. It's harder to screw up as a foliar feed.
I'd do the base nutes and water first, then adjust the pH of that, and THEN add molasses. It's a sugar, rather an an ionic substance, so it will affect the pH minimally. If you like, you can alternate feedings between ferts+water and molasses+water. Another approach is to use a carb supplement that is designed for cannabis, and take the guesswork out- but really, just the tablespoon per gallon of molasses that is ALL you need will not mess up your pH.

Forwhat420
07-11-2008, 09:00 PM
Tiger bloom usually does a pretty good job trying to adujst the ph of your water. I like to use Foxfarms Ferts and I usually mix my water, ferts, and tablespoon of molasses; then adjust my ph. Its usually not that fair off though. Just a tad of ph down.

Forwhat420
07-11-2008, 09:03 PM
And by the way...Anybody know how long Fox Farm Ferts good for? I've had a bottle for a year or so and wondering if I could use it. Sorry if thread jacking:(

dj00140
07-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Well epson salt scares me, since this is my first grow but i ordered a digital camera and a milwakue ph600 meter for $23 off ebay so i'll be able to use that now, but as i've read use molasses every watering at 1 tbls/gallon 2 weeks into flowering? I heard molasses can cause lockout is this true?

Im in FFOF and got only 1/3 females, which is kind of a good thing cause if you guys saw my other thread they were almost 3 ft going into flowering, but there tied down now, ill put up a log soon!

o and i got 2 white satin and 2 satori that are about 2 1/2 weeks in at 12/12 from seed ( well 1 week veg) any clue when ill see a sex?

FatSean
05-01-2009, 01:10 AM
So I only have a liquid pH tester and these ferts discolor my water, I was wondering if anyone who uses tiger bloom or molasses could tell me how it affects your pH, I can get my water to 6 or 7 before adding it in but how big of a change it will it make to the pH and in which direction? thanks!

I didnt realize i couldnt delete the other thread, sorry about the double post

I find tiger bloom drops pH like a stone. 2tsp/gallon took a 6.6 pH mixture so low I had to add 2.5 tsp of GH pH up to get the pH back to 6.6!

the image reaper
05-01-2009, 01:45 AM
I find tiger bloom drops pH like a stone. 2tsp/gallon took a 6.6 pH mixture so low I had to add 2.5 tsp of GH pH up to get the pH back to 6.6!

that's odd, Tiger Bloom doesn't do that with my hydroponic solutions ... that's really odd :wtf: ... now, I'll have to try figuring out 'why not' :(:jointsmile:

perpetr8r
05-01-2009, 01:52 AM
I find tiger bloom drops pH like a stone. 2tsp/gallon took a 6.6 pH mixture so low I had to add 2.5 tsp of GH pH up to get the pH back to 6.6!

Does the same to my water too. add tiger bloom and whamo! ph goes down to 4.4 from 6.5

FatSean
05-01-2009, 01:56 PM
that's odd, Tiger Bloom doesn't do that with my hydroponic solutions ... that's really odd :wtf: ... now, I'll have to try figuring out 'why not' :(:jointsmile:

Well I grow in soil and I mix up RO, CalMagMax, some Big Bloom and then the Tiger Bloom in various strengths for feeding during flower.

I'm starting with plain RO water that reads pH of 6.6. I've heard that RO water lacks 'buffering capacity' (whatever that means) so it reacts very drastically to substances that raise/lower pH. Maybe that is part of the reason why the TB has such an effect for me.

I was just told today that if I add the tiniest drop of pH UP to my RO water, it should snap right to a perfect 7.0 pH! I'll have to try that tonight.