i want to make hash, from my girls leaves

[the happy chappie]

hi, i have been growing for a about ten yrs now, but i have never made hash, my last crosses have provided me with some very frosty leaves, i normaly smoke these as there very potent, but i want to have a go at making some hash, could sombody tell me how to do this corectly, i have read some post on here but i am not sure that there correct, i respect there ideas but i dont realy wanna waste 10 to 15 ounzes of top notch leaves, the plants that this will come from are white widow crossed with brain damage, i have managed to staberlize these quite well and now produce regular extremly sticky and frosty crops, if i need any chemicles to achieve this are they easily avalible, i do not need to rush what i do so time is not a prob, however i would like something nice from it, is 15 oz dried leaf weight enough to work with, i could easily put some bud in as well if needed, has any body got any serious knowledge on this subject, i have read the books but has any one got first hand experiance, i look forword to your replys

[Nosehit]

I used the screen method, but everyone I've talked to says if you're serious about it,bubble bags are the way to go and you need the 6 or 7 bag kit. And they ain't cheap, I never tryed these and I'm not really familiar with their use but you might try here. http://forum.thenook.org/index.php?showtopic=22721&st=0&#entry321325 Good luck ;)

[the happy chappie]

thanks nosehit. i checked it out and have regestered, very interesting, how do you get on with your screens, bubble bags seems to be the way, do you know if the comparison between b/bags and screens is realy that different at the finish, its not a matter of saving money more a case of if it does the same thing, like i said before i aint made hash before, so maybe first time i might go for the cheaper option, could you tell me what you do and what results i should expect, what do i need and where do i start, thanks mate be luckey

[Nosehit]

I've never used bubble bags, actually I'm not really certain how they work. I think the ice is to cool the trichs down so they're more solid and are damaged less in the process plus it makes them less sticky. Then its filtered further and further until you get the pure trichomes which gives you that beautiful blonde hash. What I do is just the bare necessity. I screen trim through a nylon coffee filter for automatic coffee makers, then through another smaller mesh copper screen (I think metal screens are bad for some reason) and then I put it in some parchment paper(used for baking), then I warm it with a blow dryer (while its still in the paper) and then press it between books or what ever. Very little expense or effort and it actually makes a pretty decent product. That being said these folks are much more experienced than I am.http://forum.thenook.org/index.php?showtopic=28354 at the end of the thread millet talks about rebuilding a tumbler, you might check into that.
Good luck
NH

[Nosehit]

You might want to check this out also. http://cannabisheaven.co.uk/making_hash.html

[the happy chappie]

thanks again nosehit, those coffee filters you talk of, will they trap the the tiny thc, or will it pass through, i have dug out some of mine from a coffee perculator is this the same stuff, i cant see how it goes through, with your help i have found some interesting info so thanks, but some talk of acetone as a substetute for ice, does this make sence, i was kinda hoping i could do a big batch at the same time,and my filters would only hold a little at a time, time is not a prob as there not quite ready,also after drying should i cure them just as i do the weed or is it ok to work with as soon as its dried, thanks again mate, if anybody else has any veiws or knoledge on this please let me know ................................. thanks .......................................

[KanMan]

I use a cheap 2 bubble bag system that works fine.

Good Kannabis Growing!

[the happy chappie]

thanks kanman, i am prob gonna go for a non complex system to start with, then i would like the multi bubble bag option, sounds realy cool, i have got about 3 to 5 weeks to make my mind up, my girls are starting showing there heavy frosting traits
i normaly smoke them but there is so much frost even on some of the fan leaves, that its got to be worth trying to make some hash,there seems to be so much involved ,maybe its me but it seems very complecated, i am worried that i will ruin my leaves, somtimes there so frosty that there aint no difference in smoking them or bud, thanks for your suggestions, please keep them comiing, peace to you all

[del...]

i bought thr 5 gal, 7 bag system last year and can honestly say they're a godsend! you don't need all 7 but i can't see how only 2 will do the trick...perhaps a few details? anyway, the 5 bag system is all one needs.
it's different from screens as it's very wet when separated and is very easy to mold into whatever shape you want before drying while the screen method results in more of a kief product. plus it's a helluva lot easier to separate with the bags.

if i were you i'd save those fan leaves along with those loose, lower buds and wait until a bubblebag system came along. put your trim in the freezer and it'll keep until you're ready. you can sometimes find them at gypsy's auction site and save a few bucks...
www.seedbay.com
it's where i bought mine ($285 incl s/h) and worth every penny...have already made over 3 oz's of high grade hash! plus it's the type of thing where one can go in with a friend or two and share the cost.

good luck with the upcoming harvest! i'm about a month behind...

[the happy chappie]

hi del, thanks for the info mate, yes i should realy go with the bubble bag system, i am just worried that if i dont get it right then i would have wasted all that dosh, i dont know why i am conserned, cos i am pretty experienced with growing, its just that i end up with so much beautifuly frosted tip and fan leaves, they smoke just loverly, i am shit scared to ruin them, does that make sence ?, yes i think i will get the 7 bag bubble bag system, this proberbly sounds mad but i will need some sound personal experianced advise on exactly what to do, i am quite servierly disabled, so does it in volve heavy lifting ?, will i need any chemicles ?, are they readily avalible ?, i would rather do things as natrauly as possible, if it can be done ?,how long does it take ?, what state have the leaves and bud got to be, wet, dried, or cured, i am not looking to make any money or profit from this venture because i need all i can get to help my disabilitys,i have usually grown enough each season 4/5 grows per annum to see me through, without having to buy, my experiements over the years have proved very useful and have helped me develop this strain, i am very proud of it, please tell me if my crossed ladys are suitable for top quality hash, the original mother was high yeilding very smelly and extreamly frosted white widow f1, she regulary finished around 60 to 65 days, she was a complete stoner, there was a good high at the start of the smoke but it left me stoned and unable to do anything sensible, the mrs got the hump with me over it to be honest heheheheh, the father was a quality brain damage from kc seeds, he was the fastest father out of 2 packs of seeds, he was heaverly flowered and sheding pollon in under 55 days his sisters were fairly tall about 4ft they were a great smoke and also heavy with frost, he finished the same hight as the mother about 30 inches, having back crosed over the last 4 grows it now seems fairly predictable, with only slight variations if i cock up a lil bit, as soon as the seedlings were 3inches they get placed under 18hrs of a 250 w hps, for about 5 days then they recieve 400w 18hrs for about 2 and a half to 3 weeks, then blasted under 600w12 hrs untill finished, they stink from start to finish but its deff worse in the last week or so, humidity is kept very low in the last 7 days, sometimes i drop the lights too 10 hrs of light for last few days, i find this encourages the plant to ooze her sticky fluids in a hope of reproducing , the result now is i have a plant that kicks my pain level down to a point were i can use my walking frame instead of my wheelchair, its high is extreamly uplifting but usually ends up with a heavy stone, but not lack of concentration, i will deff get the munchies with out a doubt, in fact i have smoked a joint during this mesage, and i am a bit out of my head, i was hoping the hash would be a nice change, what do you think, thanks guys peace to you all

[KanMan]

Dried cured frozen product is the best to use. I have tried fresh / wet frozen product. I got less end product and taste was some what greenish.

Place the bags in a 5 gallon bucket, fill 3/4 full with cold water. Add cured dried frozen product then cover the product with a bag of crushed ice. Add more water until the water is a few inched from the top of the bucket. Let stand for about 30 minutes. Use a mixer to agitate the ice and product 20 to 30 minutes then let rest for 20 minutes. Then repeat until the ice is almost all melted. Remove the bags together carefully and rinse with cold water.

Use a spoon to scrape the bubble hash (crack hash) off the bags screen.
Place on a paper towel and press the water out of the bubble hash. Careful here if you press all the water out the bubble hash will stick to the paper towel. Put the pressed bubble hash in the freezer until ready to smoke.

The white strains tend to give a blonde color hash. The White Widow crack hash i make is very smooth, tasty and keeps me alert and awake. I prefer bubble hash over joints any day.

Good Kannabis Growing!

[the happy chappie]

thanks kanman,
i am deff gonna get the bubble bags now, they seem to be the thing to go for, could you tell me ,do they have a life span, will they last for more than one hash session,i i wanted to make about 1 ounze of quality hash how much bud and leaf would that require, my tip leaves are just as frosty as the buds, and most of the fan leaves have snow on them, so i suspect there good for hash making, please let me know ty again

[del...]

it'd be very hard to get it wrong, it's so easy! the worst that can happen is you get spillage from one layer into a lower one...oh well, just rescreen it! and the bags will last many years and many lbs of high grade chunks if taken care of (washed after use and dried before storing is about it...i run mine thru the washing machine on gentle cycle and air dry). no chems, just water and ice (i've found smaller cubes work best). the water should be just above freezing (hurting kind of cold) and with about 15-20 minutes of mixing the ice, water and greenery in a bucket it's time to start screening. that's about it! as far as color, the 1st batch i made from trim and loose buds from the outdoor grow last summer and harvested at 10% red trich's and came out blonde...2nd batch i let em go until appx 90% had turned and got the red. both fine and similar in potency but flavor is abit heavier in the red...like duh, eh?

as far as drying, i just squeeze out as much water as possible while forming it into a 'snake' then finish drying in the open on a paper plate. then wrap in foil and the mason jar and into the fridge...it does finish quite hard when dry but easy to shave off slivers.

oops, just saw kanman's info...basically the same. one thing i'll add tho is...do your mixing in a separate bucket. do NOT mix inside the bags as they will get beat up by the blades. doing it in a separate bucket allows you to really get rough with the flowers without causing harm to the bags . the 2nd difference i see is i pull the bags out one at a time when doing the screening. when you get yours you'll figure it out. there's probably a couple dozen ways of getting to same end anyway and with bubblebags you can always do a do-over...

damn, got carried away here. my apologies...

[the happy chappie]

thanks del , mate you got me buzzing here, im sitting here smoking a long fatty from my last crop and i just know its gonna be mad, i took a close look today i recon around three more weeks before they get the chop maybe a little bit less, then prob another three weeks before there dry enough to work with, i would prefure to cure for another few weeks at least, but heck thats another nine weeks before i get to make hash, oooooh i dunno if i can wait that long, i have enough of the last crop left to see me through, so is curing deff a nesseserty ?, if it is then i will just wait, i am just a little impatiant when i know something good is gonna happen lol, these girls look like there going to be heavly frosted again, there all very healthy but one looks a little strange, the fan leaves are made up of nine leeflets at the bottom of the plant and decrease to 1 single leeflet at the top, i have seen this before but never on my best girl, this plant is the heaviest yealder in my crop, she is also 8 inches taller than the rest, she looks very healthy so i am a little confused as to why the single leaflets, i have got tons of pics to share but i realy dont no how to make a pic small enough to post on here, my camara takes pics in 1..2..3..3.1..and 5 meg settings but even the 1 meg pics seem to be to big to allow me to post and pose my girls off, i have been working with these girls for a long time and they now look quite impresive on harvest day, i just gotta show ya some pics when the time comes eh !!!!! they normaly look just like white fir tree cones, only they glisten white a bit more, there quite hard as well, very nuggety, most of the fan leaves even now are very crystley, i am expecting to tie the tops up to prevent stress when they bend as they normaly do, i would love to start messing around withe some quality sativas but i am not sure about there pain killing qualitys, i love the taste of sativas and the high is very nice to, but they dont do much with my pain, any suggestions there ?, dont appologise for the long post mate i aprieciate all the advise and suggestions i get from everyone, this is quite a cool site and now that i am finding my feet in here i am having much pleasure chatting with you all, i hope i will continue to meet you all on here soon, i am also totaly mashed on that fatty i smoked earlier, i am planning on going to amsterdam this summer so if any of you guys gonna be there eh !!!!, thanks again and sorry to write so much hehehehehe i guess thats the spliff eh !

[HolySmokeMaker]

I am a firm believer in the ice extraction type hash. I purchased a set on the net for about $100 bucks (3bag system) and think they are just great. The product they produce is so potent and very very tasty. I used to do the oil thing but since I started making hash, I have never turned back.

The kits are reusable over and over again. I have used mine over 15 times now and they are still working great and show no sign of wear.

There are a few places on the internet to pick them up. Bubblebags (Bubbleman), something like bubblebags.co.uk and I picked up my set at www.resinextractor.com.

Anyone who has access to trimmings or is a regular grower should have a set of these.

[the happy chappie]

hay thanks you guys, i am gonna try and buy one today, when i think of all the trim that i have ever thrown away cos i had so much, (dam i was a fool lol ), i wish i had have learned about computers and registered on this site a long time ago, so thanks to all of you, i am still a little confused on what the ice is for, but i shall start making ice cubes today lol, thanks, i shall go and take some more pics to show how there getting on

[the happy chappie]

i took these this morning, acording to my dates i might have to wait a little longer about 7 days, take a close look at the trichomes and tell me what you think, i dont think there that far away, i might have made a mistake on my calender oops !!!! how close do you think they are........ peace

[HolySmokeMaker]

The purpose of the ice is to keep the water cold cold cold. By keeping the water cold, you keep the tric's on the leaves hard (instead of sticky) so that you can beat them off of the leaves and capture them in the screen.

Pretty simple method with excellent results.

[the happy chappie]

hi holysmokemaker
thanks for your reply, have you or anyone got any ideas as to how much hash can be made from about 10 onces of frosty tip and small buds, i have about the same again in big buds, i dont mind using some of them but i dont want to use all my loverly buds,i tried to buy the bubble bag system yesterday from my local head shop, but none in stock, i have also seen advertised the electric tumbler system i like the look of this, i am just a little worried about spending on my card over the net,

[Nosehit]

The purpose of the ice is to keep the water cold cold cold. By keeping the water cold, you keep the tric's on the leaves hard (instead of sticky) so that you can beat them off of the leaves and capture them in the screen.

Pretty simple method with excellent results.

Thats pretty much what I thought. Have you ever used bubble bags?
I'm wanting to get a set, I just want to hear someone who's used them tell me how they work.

[Nosehit]

hi holysmokemaker
thanks for your reply, have you or anyone got any ideas as to how much hash can be made from about 10 onces of frosty tip and small buds, i have about the same again in big buds, i dont mind using some of them but i dont want to use all my loverly buds,i tried to buy the bubble bag system yesterday from my local head shop, but none in stock, i have also seen advertised the electric tumbler system i like the look of this, i am just a little worried about spending on my card over the net,
I've heard about the tumblers but have never seen any. Damn now I have another decision to make bags or a tumbler. Their were a couple guys at the nook working on making a tumbler system, but I haven't heard an update yet.

[Zandor]

Check out this bag company http://www.resinextractor.com/ ...It's not the ones I have I have a 7 bag 5 gallon kit from http://www.kabulbaba.com/

[HolySmokeMaker]

Hey Happy,

I have used the bags many times before. It is actually my preferred method over all others. I would estimate that if you have 10oz of good trim and popcorn buds that you should easily get 3/4oz of bubble/ice hash with the bags. It really depends on how frosty your material is - the more frost the more hash.

In a way 3/4 oz does not sound like much but it is extremely potent stuff. You don't need to much to turn you into a vegetable. A piece the size of a peppercorn will get you so screwed up that you won't want to have anymore for many hours. Now imagine how many peppercorn size balls you can make out of 3/4 oz which is about 2 golf ball size balls.

I think you will also find the flavour much better than even the best bud off the same plants. I find the high is so pure and the taste is very clear as you are smoking the concentrated stuff that everyone is after anyhow.

I have a friend who is into the tumbler process but I don't find the quality is as good as the bubble. I find the tumbled stuff is a little more 'green' tasting as some of the plan material works it way through.

[HolySmokeMaker]

Hey Nosehit,

Yes, I have used them many times before. Check my last post. The process is very very simple and takes less than 2 hours to complete - most of the 2 hours being a sit & wait game.

For $100 bucks it is very much worth the investment. I picked mine up from resinextract, the place that Zandor has put in his link. Less $ than bubble bags and work just as good as far as I am concerned.

[HARDDON]

Instead of making bubble hash, have you considered making oil?

Hash is cool, but its a lot of work and it does take some experience. Your first batches will not be nearly aas good as your 10th batch because of the learning curve.

I would consider the oil. Lets face it, if your weed is good, you should be sufficiently buzzed after 2 or 3 one hitters. If you condense the weed to hash, so now you get stoned after one or one and half one hitters.

Either way, you are smoking the same ole dope.

To move on the next level of buzzing, I would really recommend you try the oil. A mucher faster and harder high.

In fact one of the drawbacks of the oil high is it sneaks up on you so fast you have usually overdone it by the time you realize it...lol....

All you need is some pure alcohol and in a couple of days, your smoking some kick assed oil.

I would prefer that buzz over hash buzz for strength and enduring for hours.

Just my thoughts, thanks for lettin me share em.

[Hardbud]

How do you make good pure oil?

[HARDDON]

A lot of good rescources are around for it...

1. Coffee Grind your smoke into fine sawdust like powder. Use short, quick pulses to keep the heat generated to a minimum.

2. Put 1 part weed into a glass jar with 2 part 99.99% pure alcohol. Rubbing alcohol is fine just make sure its 99% pure. Any less is too watered down. THC IS NOT water soluable. Shake and place in freezer. It wont freeze because of the alcohol.

3. Shake the mixture every couple of hours vigorously, then place jar back into freezer.

4. Let it sit in the freezer for at least 24 hours, shaking often. Some say days, or weeks even, but i have found 24 - 48 hours is just fine.

5. Take a metal bowl and place a silk shirt sleeve, or, silk hankerchief over it. Empty the contents of the jar into the silk clothe and squeeze all the liquid from the weed. The liquid should collect in the metal bowl. ALL THE LIQUID. Squeeze hard and long. Make sure your metal bowl is flat on the bottom and will rest along the heat source evenly for the next step.

You will have a dark green liquid (all alcohol) in the bowl. DO NOT SMOKE OR EXPOSE THIS LIQUID TO ANY FIRE OR IGNITION SPARK SOURCE DURING ANY PART OF THIS PROCESS OR SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR HANDS AND OR FACE!! :( :( :( :( I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU CAN"T UNDERSTAND....KEEP FROM FLAME OR SPARK OR CELL PHONES OR ANYTHING THAT CAN IGNITE FUMES.


You now have your liquid which contains your oil in a suspended state. We will now correct that and stabilize the oil. :cool: :cool: :cool:

YOu are now ready to make the oil.... :D :D

1. Take the metal bowl with the liquid and place it in a larger metal frying pan or something. It matters not, so long as it is biggger than your metal bowl.

Place the frying pan on the stove and 'cook' the alcohol to where it just barely boils and bubbles. You MUST use care here. It is best to do this outside as the resulting cooking will make the inside of your house smell like rubbing alcohol and fumes will be everywhere. When I do mine, I have the stove fan on high and it takes the fumes outside.

If the kids are around, I use a small plug-in single burner stove (ELECTRIC) ;) ;) (NOT GAS) :( :( and I hide in my shed and make it. :D

The alcohol will boil or evaporate off. It takes about 30 minutes...maybe 45 depending on the volume of alcohol used. 2 cups of liquid will take 45 minutes. Do NOT rush the process. Keep it right to barely bubbleing.

2. As the liquid evaporates off, watch carefully...at the very end...the last seconds...your oil will appear and begin to bubble. DO NOT over cook or you will vaporize the THC away. DO NOT under cook, or, your oil will still be flammable. A good way to test is to light the oil with a lighter and see if it catches fire instantly. IF it does, slowly boil the stuff a bit longer.

When you are satisfied your oil is good and the alcohol is gone, remove from heat and let it sit for about 10 minutes. IT will thicken. Use razor blades to scrape it out of the bowl and place into a small container.

The best container I have found is a soda bottle top. Cover with foil to protect the freshness.

You now have the strongest oil you can make. It will appear dark or dark green as the alcohol does solvent off more than the THC.

Other solvents such as butane or propane can be used to get a more clear oil, but the expense and the time hasn't been worth it to me.

Doing this a couple of times, you will easily master the art of oil making from ragweed even.

It is easy and fun for the entire family!!

One note: This oil sticks to fricking everything it touches. Everything. Your teeth, your fingers, your cooking bowl...everything. Use gloves or your hands will be hash black/green for a week. You fingernails will be awful.

The resulting yield depends on your starting weed quantity. One ounce will generally make enuff oil for 30 stones or so. The oil is very potent and whacks one hell of a high. Even if your weed was shit....use it all in your batch...stems, seeds, leaf...you name it. Grind it good.

You can then take the leftover weed, and run it thru a second 'wash' with alcohol and enjoy yet another round of oil although the yeild will be smaller.

I have run it thru a wash 3 times with happy results.

The finest way to smoke it is to vaporize...but another great reason i luv oil.....

Dip a paper clip in the oil and rub it on a good bud bit. Then smoke it thru a pipe. The oil keeps the weed moist and from burning while heating the THC in the weed. It extends the life of your bud bit very much.

When smoking the oil, don't expose to complete flame but get the flame to where the oil will bubble.

Or place oil in a glass pipe and heat the outside of the pipe with your lighter.

Also, be careful...the resulting oil smoke is far more expansive...far far more expansive and potent :eek: :eek: :eek: ....take a tiny itsy bitsy hit.

Hold it in as long as you can, then exhale thru the nose.

One or 2 good hits is all you will need...even the diehard daily smokers generally need no more than this.

Happy oil cooking.

[the happy chappie]

hi harddon, holysmoker,zandor,nosehit,dell,nosehit,kanman torog, and everybody else who has contributed or is following this post, thanks guys, now i am now even more confused as when i first started lol, my plants are now finishing, i chopped 2 this morning, i have eight left to finish and i estimate another 2 too maybe 6 days for the others to finish, they are finishing pretty much well as they normaly do very sticky and very crystly. there stink whilst trimming them is over powering, and i had to have a break from it twice, i have also taken a couple of pics and will post them when i get chance to download them, i love this plant i truly love it but i need a change, i have been working with it now for over two years so turning some of it into hash or oil could be very welcome, i dont know which one to go for bubble bag or electric tumbler, both will give good results, i must also take into concideration how long will it last, i normaly get about ten ounces when dried out of my room per crop, i need a large amount of my sensi to get me through untill my next crop is finished and cured, i also get a simular amount of trim, could easily use my trim and about 5 onces of good bud, i have seen the links that have been left here and they are very infomative and much appriciated, i like the tumbler for its convienience, and i like the bubblebags becourse they seem to be very popular and well researched, i have tried oil and yes its outstanding, but i am a little worried about chemicle contamination, thanks and i will post those pics soon,........ yours the happy chappie ...........

[flybynight]

I was downloaded a video at iMesh.com on how to make hash. when you download the software and are all set up to run type in the search box hash or hashish or cannabis etc.etc. then just double click on any big files over say 15mb

have a look see what you think

P.S. A good source 4 porno clips

[the happy chappie]

hi mates and thanks for your replys, i have allready replyed to this a few days ago, but somehow its not here lol, maybe i was stoned lol, well the choices are tough, i am a little worried about chemicle contamination with making oil, i have tried it in the past and it is first class, hash apeals to me becourse it seems very popular and looks reasonably easy to make, my plants are extreamly frosty and very sticky so they will proberly make good hash stock, they are at the moment finishing, i have chopped 2 down and i expect another 4 today, they look as they normaly do when finishing, i realy dont know what one to go for bags are popular and easy to get hold of yet the tumbler is so conveinent, either way i will be making hash, mmmm i cant wait ...... peace to you all ...........

[the happy chappie]

hello harrdon
thanks for your thoughts mate, i have tried oil it was realy cool, and yes i was smashed before i relized what was happerning lol, i am just a little worried about chemicle contamination, both the hash making methods posted here contain no chemicles at all, somebody posted an add on overgrow on how to make a tumbler, i think i will go for this option first, i can build most things very compedently. i am still interested in the bubble bags, i just wanna taste the stuff before i shell out nearly £200 on a good hash extraction system i think i can get hold of some quality screens localy, i am not being a tight ass i just wanna test it first, another question .... is hash like the solid dark stuff that can be in the uk. we call it solid or rocky, or black, it smells and tastes far sweeter than weed, it is very hard and we have to burn it to crumble it into a joint, is this hash or is this something different. peace to you

[the happy chappie]

hi guys,
thanks for your patience, i have only been useing this comp for a little while so i have yet to learn what to do , i could not see the posts i was writing so i wrote them again, so sorry again. i am facinated with the different ideas you guys have give me so thanks, i think i will go for hash, oil is great i love it and will do it again sometime, but i just wonder a little about the possability of chemicle contamination, i think once in a while is great, i recon if i done oil regular i might lose the buzz i have with my weed, allthough i will make hash i dont wanna use all my stash, i need to smoke around half ounce a week, this keeps my pain level at a level thats tolerable, and harrdon that was a brill desciption of oil making, have you heard about the other method of extraction using acitone as a substitute for alchol, i am not knowledgeable on this matter i just remember reading somewhere that acitone works in a simular way, it also evaporates 100% without added heat, i know it is possible in the uk just to walk into boots the chemist and buy acitone but i dont know about alchol, if you have any knowledge on this method i am sure it could prove handy. thanks and peace to you all

[newgroweroldsmoker]

hi guys,
thanks for your patience, i have only been useing this comp for a little while so i have yet to learn what to do , i could not see the posts i was writing so i wrote them again, so sorry again. i am facinated with the different ideas you guys have give me so thanks, i think i will go for hash, oil is great i love it and will do it again sometime, but i just wonder a little about the possability of chemicle contamination, i think once in a while is great, i recon if i done oil regular i might lose the buzz i have with my weed, allthough i will make hash i dont wanna use all my stash, i need to smoke around half ounce a week, this keeps my pain level at a level thats tolerable, and harrdon that was a brill desciption of oil making, have you heard about the other method of extraction using acitone as a substitute for alchol, i am not knowledgeable on this matter i just remember reading somewhere that acitone works in a simular way, it also evaporates 100% without added heat, i know it is possible in the uk just to walk into boots the chemist and buy acitone but i dont know about alchol, if you have any knowledge on this method i am sure it could prove handy. thanks and peace to you all


hey man, how are you? all you need from the boots is surgical spirit....that's what they call it in the uk....it is somehow impossible to find pure alcohol in the uk as it is illegal to buy something like like...i think they have banned it's sale from the pharmacies because there were some cases in which people would buy it not for injuries but to drink it....as for acetone i am not sure about that....although it evaporates as fast (maybe faster) as alcohol it is a different chemical from alcohol.....surgical spirit is what you need...i am going to make some oil as well....take care :)

[del...]

if you are making green dragon (pot oil...hash oil is totally different) and are concerned about the chems, use everclear. it comes out not quite as nasty as rubbing alcohol and you can drink it safely. if you want to spend the time and a few bucks a much more worthier product can be had using butane or acetone. all the info for most recipes have alreadey been posted and easily searchible...

then there are those awesome bubblebags...

[the happy chappie]

hello and thanks again guys,
i wish i was more caperble of using this computer, i am still learning, so please bare with me, i have asked this question before and it might have been missed, does anyone know if the solid hard black stuff i can get easily in the uk is propper hash, we call it black, rockey, solid, we burn it to crumble it in a joint, its sweet smelling and does not realy tastes like weed atall, its a nice smoke with a slightly different high, however i have never got blasted on it, is this something else as my weed is ten times the strengh of this, i am puzzeld lol

[the happy chappie]

hello everybody,
i have finerly bought my resin extraction system, i purchased the 3 bag bubble bag system, i also made tons of ice and bought some just in case i did not have enough, i will attempt to make my first lil bit of hash this afternoon,
i will be using about 5 ounces in total .... half lil bud and half best tip leaves, i will post pics of the entire process step by step....

i am shiting myself guys as i dont wanna wreck this stuff so if you can help us along the way it would be appriciated...
i hope in some way this will benifit all that rely on cannabis as a medicle aid, it is my intension to find the medicle qualitys in hash.. stand by pics very soon,.................... peace to you

[Zandor]

Hey Chappie if you take a 5-gallon bucket, cut the bottom off and then slide it over the 3 bags you just purchased. It will protect your bags during the mixing time.

[the happy chappie]

zandor, thanks man, i have just compleated my first extraction, it went wonderfully, it was so easy after you guys told me what to do, so thanks very much, i finished with about just over 1/8th first grade and about 1/16th in second grade, i am gonna siphon the bucket tommorow when it as totaly settled, i am convinced i will find some of it in there as well,
i am well chuffed and totaly high, this is a fantastic smoke, i am realy pleased, I will post these pics tomorrow as i am now well smashed and got to sit and chill out. peace to you.

[del...]

do your mixing in the bucket only...then run through the bags. no sense running your mixer inside the bags where it can easily get nicked or worse. the same results happen when mixing your greenery, ice and water in a clean bucket then pour into the bags waiting in a 2nd bucket.

[the happy chappie]

thanks guys,
here are the pics as promised of the entire process, tell me if i could have done better in any way, i am well pleased

the first pics show the various bags being installed in my 25 ltr bucket
the orange bag was the finest so that went in first

the second bag was red that also has i fine screen

the last bag was the green bag

we then put the weed in the ice cold water and gave it a gentle stir with a wooden spoon to help get it all in the water, this floated easily so i had to stir it

[the happy chappie]

after giving the weed a gentle stir to get it all mixed up it was time for the mixer to do its job

we mixed througherly for at least twenty mins, .... we then let it stand for about thirty mins and then stired again for about another 25 mins, in between during the mixing i occasionly gave it a gentle deep stir to make sure nothing was traped and not getting mixed

it became very throthy it looked like a dark green slush

when finished mixing i let it stand for at least half an hour, i think now i should have let it stand longer maybe an hour

we then drained slowley and very carefully the bag containing the chopped up weed squeezing every last drop, i then put the bag to one side and made ready for the first catch bag

[the happy chappie]

the first catch bag was very heavy and took a long time to drain, we let it drain naturaly as much as possible, only when it got nearly empty did we give it a gentle squeeze, it felt much like a very cold and wet floppy booby heheheh,

once we got most of the water out of the bag we had our first peek at what was in there, i nearly hit the ceiling with joy.... i could see that i finerly made myself some loverly hash

this looked like a fine sludge

we worked the hash to the very end of the bag, and gently wraped some kitchen tissue paper around the outside of the bags tip containing the hash, this realy helped to dry the stuff before removing it from the bag

[the happy chappie]

this is what the hash looked like just before we removed it from the bag
the drying with tissue paper on the out side of the bag realy helped, i wish i had took a pic to show how we done it, it was realy simple though, we just wraped tissue around the outside of the bag and gently squeezed, it sucked out a lot of the water,

the last bag took ages to drain off, it killed my back so my bro helped me again, we used the same process on this bag also, its yeild was lower, i did expect this, however it still gave enough hash for a few killer smokes

[the happy chappie]

we spread the damp hash on a large mirror layed flat on a stable suface,

we gently chopped it and spread it out to dry, trying to insure there were no damp lumps

we left it for about 1 hour with the back door open to allow a gentle circulating breeze to help the drying process,

the pic with the smaller amount in a little plastic wrapper is what i got from the last bag, we did nothing more with this other than dry it and sprinkle it in three huge joints,

[the happy chappie]

after leaving it to dry for about 1 hour we carressed it and kneeded it untill it regained its sticky nature,

i rolled it in my hands for about twenty mins it started to firm up and stiffen, it was about the size of a large marble it also became darker in colour

i then shaped it into a square sausage i think this shape will be good to work with when i make some joints off it,

i aint yet smoked this first grade hash, i am gonna let it stand for a while to try and dry it some more as it is still quite soft and bendy, a little more stiff than play dough,
however three of us smoked the second grade hash from the last bag, we smoked it as powder form, in three joints one each,
i can say with total honesty we was totaly wrecked and spent at least half an hour laughing our heads of and giggerling uncontrolably, it was brill,

it gave me excerlent relief from my pain, my friend torog i know is awaiting the results from my experiment, i can say torog do it bro, just do it, it will elieviate your pain i am sure, i am so, so happy with these results
so thanks guys for all your help, without your advise i proberly would not have done it,

i will deffinatly make some more when my next bash comes through
thanks and if you have any comments i would love to know your thoughts
........... peace and happyness to you all ....
ps cant wait for this 1st grade stuff to dry

[the happy chappie]

does anybody know how long this lump of hash will take to harden

................ peace

[llamaman666]

http://okief.com/
quality cheap tumblers

[llamaman666]

a week at most

[Torog]

after leaving it to dry for about 1 hour we carressed it and kneeded it untill it regained its sticky nature,

i rolled it in my hands for about twenty mins it started to firm up and stiffen, it was about the size of a large marble it also became darker in colour

i then shaped it into a square sausage i think this shape will be good to work with when i make some joints off it,

i aint yet smoked this first grade hash, i am gonna let it stand for a while to try and dry it some more as it is still quite soft and bendy, a little more stiff than play dough,
however three of us smoked the second grade hash from the last bag, we smoked it as powder form, in three joints one each,
i can say with total honesty we was totaly wrecked and spent at least half an hour laughing our heads of and giggerling uncontrolably, it was brill,

it gave me excerlent relief from my pain, my friend torog i know is awaiting the results from my experiment, i can say torog do it bro, just do it, it will elieviate your pain i am sure, i am so, so happy with these results
so thanks guys for all your help, without your advise i proberly would not have done it,

i will deffinatly make some more when my next bash comes through
thanks and if you have any comments i would love to know your thoughts
........... peace and happyness to you all ....
ps cant wait for this 1st grade stuff to dry
Howdy Happy,

Thanx for the interesting pics ! Thanx for taking the time to post it all,it's been very informative. I'm greatly encouraged by your report of the pain relief aspect :) I was wondering,how much trim and or bud,did you use for this batch ? Did you freeze the trim before you started,and for how long ?

Thanx for confirming that hash is good for pain relief..it seems that most folks just talk about strains of weed that's good for pain relief..but ya never hear about the effectiveness of hash or honey oil,in regards to pain relief.

Have a good one ! :D

[the happy chappie]

thanks llamaman for those links, i was very surprised at how cheap they were on that site, the best price my head shop could offer me was £140 or £250 uk pounds, i wanted the tumbler becourse they looked easy, at the time i just could not find them cheap enough, however i am very happy with my 3 bag kit it cost £65 uk pounds.

hi torog mate,
yes i did freeze the weed before i processed it, i stuck it in the freezer the night before to make sure it was totaly frozen .
my original estermate of weed was far mor than i actauly used, this time i used about 2 and a half ounces of trim and about 1 ounce of popcorn bud, there was also a small top that i chucked in for good measure.

the whole job from start to finish took about 2 and a half hours, and a lot of that was waiting time,
i will say though torog if lifting is a problem then have a buddy handy, my back realy hurt trying to hold the sacks up to drain, but that was thew only prob,
it deffinatly has good pain relief qualitys, it is far better than the hash or soilid i can buy localy for £15 an 8th,
i guess if you can find a good plant that gives good med qualitys then for sure the hash that comes from it will be excerlent as all your smoking is the thc glands, i can only describe it as very sweat tasting weed in very concentrated form.
i cant wait to test this first grade stuff if the second grade was as good as it was then what must the best stuff be like, .........take care and peace to you

[del...]

i do my bubblebagging in the kitchen and found you can pull a drawer out a bit then hang the bag on a corner to drain...this is where a 2nd bucket (even a 3rd if doing large quantities) comes in handy.

the stuff left at the bottom of the bucket can be dried thru evaporation leaving a crust that can be scraped and spread on j's like skuff. not the best quality but still has the flavor and works well enuff to keep, imho...

[the happy chappie]

thanks del,
i can see that it would help me if i could find somthing to support the bag high whilst it drains, that was my only problem those bags do get quite heavy, and they take a very long time to drain, on the whole though del thanks for the tip on using bags they realy are first class, and i am very pleased that i bought them.

i have left the bucket containing the green water to settle since i done the extraction i will today syphon the water, as you say i am sure there will be some thing in there also, i will take some pics of this also, if there is anything of interest in the bottom of the bucket it might be worth showing this also. .... thanks and peace ....

[the happy chappie]

hi all
i smoked my first grade hash for the first time last night, it has now dried just fine, it was totaly mind blowing and i got total stuffed on it, i cant believe that i have been throwing away ( most of the time ) all those loverly leaves, why did i not do this earlier.
question ... it is now dry and it smoked loverly, but why is the stuff so bloody sticky when i warm it up to put in a joint it almost reverts back to its original state, it is also difficult to crumble this sticky its just like thick glue when i warm it up
................peace to you all.....................

[the happy chappie]

hi all does anyone have any answers to the above question
question, .... if it remains this sticky how do ya get it in a joint lol, i can hardly get it off my fingers, its fine untill i warm it up to crumble then it goes to glue

[Nosehit]

Incredible, great job happy and thanks for posting the pics. This has answered a lot of my questions. You've got me very excited about the bags!
thanks again and keep up the good work.

[the happy chappie]

hi nosehit
the bags are great mate realy great, i was also amazed at what come from what i normaly throw away or save for hard times, the stength of the hash is just outstanding, my partner wont smoke my grass cos she recons it drys her throat, but she readily smoked my hash in a long joint, she got less than halfway through the jay and needed to lay down hehehehe, its also very good for elliviating my pain and mussle spasms, go for it mate you wont regret it, if your gonna have a lot of trim then maybe go for the 5 or 7 bag kit, i only have the 3 but my supplier assures me he can easily get hold of the extra bags should i want them,
........... peace .............

[surreyB.C.]

ok guys id be happy to inform and tell all the ppl reading how all theese different methods work first off iwould never make oil thats for sure its dangerous for one thing and another is once finished thereis still and always will be alcohol init still this is a concern for me so my sugestion is for the time being i would probably make hash but with a tumbler i made my own for maybe 50 bucks i live in canada so thats gotta be cheap to everyone else so if u want let me know and ill give u detailed instuctions on how to build one yourself i also have bought a set of bubblw bags i bought the 7 bag system 20 gallon size because i have an everlasting amount of straight trim leaves and stuff i mean they did cost me alot i think it was like 840 dollars but so far for the quality and stuff most definitly worth it who ever said it will take you many tries to perfect it im a person who likes the finer things so in my opinion very worth it if u have the leaf and money to do so if u want message me or leave a reply to this and ill try to get back to you with a good formula for making ice hash and now after buying and using the bags ive found other ways to do it with household items and results will be very close to the same let me now and ill fill you in on the proper procedures on making some killer stuff from your trim

[Torog]

ok guys id be happy to inform and tell all the ppl reading how all theese different methods work first off iwould never make oil thats for sure its dangerous for one thing and another is once finished thereis still and always will be alcohol init still this is a concern for me so my sugestion is for the time being i would probably make hash but with a tumbler i made my own for maybe 50 bucks i live in canada so thats gotta be cheap to everyone else so if u want let me know and ill give u detailed instuctions on how to build one yourself i also have bought a set of bubblw bags i bought the 7 bag system 20 gallon size because i have an everlasting amount of straight trim leaves and stuff i mean they did cost me alot i think it was like 840 dollars but so far for the quality and stuff most definitly worth it who ever said it will take you many tries to perfect it im a person who likes the finer things so in my opinion very worth it if u have the leaf and money to do so if u want message me or leave a reply to this and ill try to get back to you with a good formula for making ice hash and now after buying and using the bags ive found other ways to do it with household items and results will be very close to the same let me now and ill fill you in on the proper procedures on making some killer stuff from your trim
Howdy surrey,

Have you ever tried making oil with the butane extraction method ? It's dangerous too..but the butane does evaporate totally..leaving behind nothing but product..or so I hear...lol.

When you do the mixing/stirring part,do you have to stand there and hold an electric drill in yer hand for 15-30 minutes ? I was wondering if a jig could be constructed,to help with holding the drill,or do you reccomend moving the drill around,like mixing up cake batter with a hand-mixer,does a hand-mixer with beaters work ? Or is a drill with a paint-stirrer bit,best ?

I'm starting to think,a tumbler would work best,for a feller with a bad back..Happy said it was somewhat painful for him,I suppose gittin someone to help with the lifting and draining,would be best for fellers like me and Happy.

Thanx for your help ! :D

Have a good one ! :D

[del...]

excellent news, chappie!
been away for a couple days and just got back to this thread...

did you hand press them while wet or let them dry 'naturally'? doesn't matter much, both come out equally fine. but if you can get to the clump of mud before too dry but after most of the moisture has drained you can form them into diff shapes (like play-doh) and when dry are quite hard. i suggest wearing those baggie-type gloves when hand pressing. paper towels placed around the edge of the clumps will also help dry it faster.

soon to be making my 3rd batch of bubblehash here too! i'll take pics of the way i do it and maybe that'll give you some ideas for next time...please do the same when ya get a chance.

did you happen to make any measurements beforehand? like weigh the trim against the yield? curious is all...i got just under an oz from 400 grams of trim and popcorn buds from the last one but didn't measure the 1st one. and yes, it is sticky! i made the mistake of licking the 'dough' from between my fingers while pressing into 'snakes' (look more like cat turds when dry) and lost a day and a half...which is why i now recommend wearing plastic gloves.

anyway, great job...




and i recommend using a paint stirrer w/drill and moving it around and up and down inside the bucket...NOT the bags. strain after the mixing into a separate bucket. saves much wear and TEAR on your bags...btw, the 5 bag system should be more than enough for most growers.

[the happy chappie]

hello surrey and torog
yes surrey mate we would love to share your ideas and details on how to make a tumbler, i wanted one of those but best price my supplier could come up with was
£ 140.00 for a small one and £ 250 for a resonable size one, my bags come to about
£ 65.00 any additional bag i want will be about another £ 20/25, there must be loads of people reading this post that would like to know all the different ways to make hash, i have allready posted pics of my hash making session with my bags but if you have any more info please just pop in and post it,

yes torog the bags do get very heavy for me, they take a long time to drain so thats why it hurts, those tumblers are good mate, i would worry a little about reliability i am sure they would last but at the end of the day they are mechanicle,
yes it would be possible to make some kind of stand easily for the mixer so you dont have to hold it, i used an old food mixer it worked better than i thought it might, there was a time when i got a bit close to the bags and got a bit worried about chopping them up, but since then people on here have give me more tips, like cutting the bottom of a duplicate bucket and simply sliding in in after the bags to protect them,
either way torog this hash mate is the best you have just gotta do it,
............... peace..............