greenhouse grow with clones

[lunarose]

Hi All,

I have grown from seed before with success before but this is the first time I have tried growing clones from a dispensary. I have three one D. OG,one Apoth OG, and one trainwreak. They are in 3g pots with miracle grow garden soil mixed with earth worm casings. They are in a greenhouse. Its awfully hot here so that is my biggest worry for now even with the vents opened and a fan running during the day its still gets close to 100 in there. I'll be posting pictures soon.

[jakezking]

luna! It's good to see you with your own log. You wear it nicely. Sounds like you have some really nice strains with some good sized buckets and fine soil, so you have a really good start! That is awfully hot, but I don't know a darn thing about greenhouses. It gets into the mid-90's easily where I am though, and MIQ doesn't seem to mind 1 bit. I guess you'll just have to see what they can take, but I am sure someone on this board has greenhouse experience and will be better able to give you much better advice and insight than me.

I'm really excited to follow your log, and I'm looking forward to pictures! Take good care out there!

[lunarose]

Okay here are my three new girls. The smaller single girl is the trainwreck the two next to each other are the OGs.

[lunarose]

Jake,

Glad you found your way here. Right now it is 93 in the shade and over a 100 in the sun....ah desert living. I usually start my grows toward the end of Jan (the Swiss Miss I told you about were started in Nov I was experimenting with the strain to see if I could get a winter grow they survived but it grew so slow that I don't think they got to over a foot tall until late Jan) so that by the time July and Aug roll around with the high temps they are over 3' tall and mature enough to handle the heat. In the past any seeds I started later did not do well because of it so I am not too sure how the clones will do. I also have to be careful with the humidity in the GH but despite its drawback I love growing in a GH. It smells heavenly in there.

At least so far I haven't had the insect problem I had a couple of years back. I never figured out what it was that was killing my seedlings whatever it was it lived in the soil and would come out at night and chew up the leaves. It even got to the seedling when I placed an empty 3l bottle on top of them as protection.

Are you going to start a new grow log with the bag seeds you started?

[jakezking]

Yeah, but you have that dry heat that isn't so bad, right? If you have a fan on them, then perhaps they will make it. Like I said, MIQ is enjoying the mid 90's heat with some pretty dang high humidity. If you have low humidity, then perhaps you can keep a bucket of water in the middle of the plants, so the evaporation will increase the humidity in the greenhouse?

But, at the end of the day if it is too hot to grow outside, maybe you could grow them indoors?

I've gone 4 for 4 on the bagbeans, and they are presently sitting in some jiffy pellets in a bowl with a bit of water. We'll see where they take me.

I'm interested to see what sort of advice you'll get about the extreme temperatures. Also, I'm interested in seeing how well those fine ladies do out there! I wish you much luck! And, I'm already looking forward to an update.

[killa12345]

i got plant outside right now.....its 95F by 10am, RH of about 65% where i live, usually peaking around 103F...my plants have grown 6inch in 2 days outdoors. Some strains thrive in the heat. I would try some skunk strains. i couldnt even believe how big my skunk plant got in this heat. It also rains eveyday about 4 pm like clockwork.

[lunarose]

Jake,

LOL! I never got the dry vs humid heat once it get past 90 it all sucks IMHO(G). GH's lean towards high humidity so keeping the air moving is important. Inside really isn't an option aside from the fact that I really don't have a room I could use for growing I have cats who enjoy eating my plants(G)

Killa, I have 4 white widows in the GH with the clones I didn't do a grow log on them because they are already 5 months old. They are loving the heat a little too much the GH is 8' ft high but even after topping them when they hit the ceiling and listing after the secondary shoots hit the ceiling its still a problem....not that I am complaining(G)

[jakezking]

luna, I'm glad to hear you've got some plants that are thriving in the heat! I'd love to see some pictures of those WWs! Those things must be absolute monsters!

I'm looking forward to an update on your log when you get a chance, and I hope all is well out there with you and yours.

[lunarose]

Hi All,

I wasn't planning on updating so soon but the clones seem to be quite happy in their new home and actually have new growth and its only been 5 days.

Jake I took a couple of shots of the ww in one you can see how large her fan leaves are.

[jakezking]

luna, now those are big WWs! I can only imagine the yield those ladies will bring. I am happy to see such a happy greenhouse! I thought you were growing in the middle of the desert, with nothing but cactii. Your plants are flourishing! I'm really looking forward to some updates pictures on those clones!

[lunarose]

Jake,

Thanks. The heat wave we were having has lessen some which has helped with the clones. I made some changes this year that has made a real difference. I moved the GH to an area that has some shade instead of giving them something like 8 hours of direct sun light they now get around 10 hours of partial sun. I also put a good size fan on a timer which has made a difference with the temps and the humidity.

WWs are one of my favorite strains I am hoping for a good yield this year. I would love sometime to be able to grow them outside and let them get as big as they want.....I have visions of myself on a ladder trying to look through my loupe(G)

[Shovelhandle]

Nice log you've started. Looking forward to following it regularly.

Shov

[lunarose]

Hi All,

Well the girls have been growing the two have doubled in size the third is a tad slower but showing new growth. We are suppose to get into the triple digits this weekend so that is a bit of a concern.

One of the girls has some slight purpling on three of her lower stems and I wanted to know what you all think. Does it look like a nute issue?

Sorry about the poor quality of the pictures but hopefully the purple will show enough for some help.

[jakezking]

luna, you should check the forum about the possible nute issue on the purple branches. I can't remember right now, but I know I have run across a few different threads which discuss that question.

Your girls look like they are stretching for the light. That greenhouse seems to really stretch the ladies out. Does that result in your bud sites getting more light, and developing bigger and better buds? I wonder what your WW harvest will yield?

I hope all is well with you.

[lunarose]

Thanks Jake. I am now leaning towards the clone having a possible purple pheno instead of a nute problem since she is thriving she's already over a foot tall and the purple seems to be limited to only three stems the rest including the all the veins are green. I also fed them a light dose of Fox Farm and superthrive.

I probably won't be able to post any pictures for a couple of days my mom goes in for surgery tomorrow so I'll be spending my days at the hospital.

Last year's ww which was a smaller crop gave me a little over 2lbs after harvest so I have high hopes(G) I may have to pull one of the widows out of the GH and find a good outside location because I didn't tie her down far enough so she is pushing up against the GH roof. I probably should stop using 15g pots.

[lunarose]

Time for more pictures. The first three are of the clones. They have been in the GH 2 weeks now and are noticeably bigger.

The third picture is of a surprise baby. I had pollinated a couple of buds on one of my Swiss Miss. I thought I have harvested all the beans she had to give me but obviously I missed one so this little baby just fell and germinated itself LOL!!!

The last picture is a bit of a tribute to this site. One the growing FAQ section there was the suggestion to place hydroton as a top layer in your potted plants so that the roofs will grow through out the soil even the last two inches and obviously it works. This is a male that I pulled out of the GH and removed the hydroton.

[zebulon]

Beautiful plants...they look already much stronger and vigorous ....:thumbsup:
It would be great to grow in a Gh, i really envy people who even have a small one.
Anyhow....nice log, i will follow the progress for sure...:hippy:

[lunarose]

Thanks. Its a real small cheap GH I think I paid about $40 for it its 8x6x8. I just pulled the baby that rooted itself and put it in its own pot I know its probably too late in the season even for s. cali but I had to give it a chance(G)

I am really pleased with the clones so far. I was leary of them thinking they might be too fragile too delicate for someone like me to grow but when my local dispensary had them for $10 a pop I figured what the hell.....now there's a party in the GH(VBG)

[jakezking]

Looks like your grow is going extremely well, luna! And, what a nice surprise that stray bean turned out to be, eh? That is fantastic! 2 pounds off 1 of your WWs is amazing! Sorry for all of the exclamation points, but there is a lot to be excited about in your log. Fine work you are doing with all of these ladies!

Also, I hope all is well with you and yours and that your mom's surgery was successful. I wish her a speedy and full recovery! Take good care, luna!

[lunarose]

Jake,

Thanks. My mom is doing insanely well she is 80 and after major surgery on Monday for colon cancer she is already eating a clear diet and up and walking!

I put the surprise seedling in its own home we'll see where that one goes(G) I had to pull a widow out of the GH so she out in the wild(G) I just never got her tied down right so she was mashing herself against the roof and I was worried that if I kept her in there I'd end up with a bad case of bud rot. I'll probably drag my camera up to her new home tomorrow and post a picture. I'll have to be careful because she is near the male widow that I am keeping for a little bean making down the line.

I am thinking that I may end up having to transplant the clones in a few weeks. Its gonna get awfully crowded in the GH hopefully I won't have to pull anyone else yet lugging them up the hill is a real bitch!

[lunarose]

Hi All,

Here is a picture of the WW I pulled out of the GH she was topped a while ago I don't even want to think how tall she'd be if I hadn't topped her. She took a bit of a beating in the move but nothing serious. The second shot is of the male widow in his hide out. Where's Waldo????

[jakezking]

luna, I'm glad to hear your mom is doing great!

Your WW's look outstanding too. They look like flippin' ficus trees! I am floored that they are so tall - they really like that greenhouse of yours. I'll be interested to see if that stray bean does well. It must be a strong lil' lady, so I'll expect big buds out of her.

Thanks for the new pictures, as well as the great news about your mom. Take good care out there!

[lunarose]

Thanks Jake. Here are some new pictures. The stray bean is growing. Because I wasn't expecting anything from the seedling wasn't even sure it would survive being pulled out and re-potted so I put it in a 5g pot I had sitting around, not an ideal size so most of its energy has been focused on root growth but it should start taking off soon.

The widow I pulled out due to the crowding ended up being a male! I definitely need to have my eyes checked(G) Oh well boys do make good edibles(G) As you can sort of see is huge I put a ruler against its trunk so you can get an idea how tall he has gotten.

The clones are doing great hopefully they will grow for a few more weeks before they start to flower.

The first picture is the baby, the next three are the clones and the last if the big boy.

[lunarose]

Hi All,

The clones are starting to flower. They are about 2' feet tall now and I'd like to see them veg a little longer so they'll get bigger. Right now we have sunlight for close to 14 hours and frost won't be a problem until Jan. Would using a light so that they get 18 hours of light force them to revert to veg? Do I risk creating a hermie?

Thanks

[jakezking]

luna, I'm glad to hear your mom is doing so well. And, I'm happy to hear your clones are starting to flower. I would guess the extra light would put them back into a vegetative state, and although there is a chance of the stress causing them to become hermaphrodites, I doubt they would - I like to gamble though.

It's good seeing some updated pics, even though they are now quite old. It shows I haven't been around for some time, eh? I need to find more time to spend on the board, but work has been wearing me plum out. Take good care out there!

[lunarose]

Jake, Thanks my mom is doing great. We got the path report and she had clean margins and lymphs so we are pretty much taking the stand that she is now cancer free. Chemo and radiation are not recommended because of problems with her immune system but overall this is the best case scenario. She's back home and pretty much back to normal.

So here are some new pictures of the girls. I transplanted them out of the 3g pots and into 12gs. As you can see they are growing. The one is something of an oddball throwing out three fingered leaves. The seedling is doing its thing I have a light on it it will be interesting to see if I can prolong my growing season. The last shot is of one of the Swiss Miss's flowering. She looks a tad rough but then this is her second flowering and she is old for not being a mother she was started just before Thanksgiving. But she is tough the seeding came from her.

[veggii]

Luna nicelog ! the light should keep in veg longer keep fingers crossed.
what nutes are you using just the FF?? :jointsmile:

[lunarose]

Thanks. I mostly use FF products about 1/2 strength of what is recomended. I also used superthrieve early on. I also use a mix of soil with "up to 9 months of food" from Walmart plus earthworm casings, perlite, vermlite(SP?) all mixed together.

[veggii]

Hi lunarose
I saw you talking to the boys about indoor they are the peeps to ask :thumbsup:
I stumbled onto this thread, its excellent for indoor thought it might answer some questions for you. he does'nt use pots ,but I'm sure you could if wanted too .:thumbsup:

http://boards.cannabis.com/growroom-setup/31194-sealed-room-3lbs-light.html

:hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy:

[lunarose]

Oh my what a beautiful grow! Indoor grows intrigue me but in some ways it sounds to my sunny south cali ears so wrong. And I look at my carpeting and it just feels messy(G) But to grow year round now that is a beautiful thing.

[painretreat]

Looks nice to me. Gonna follow very closely. Will help me decide how and what I will grow in S. Ca.! The heat boiled tomatoes on the plants last year in Aug. This year is so mild, I could kick my butt for not having a grow. Was under 80 degrees here yesterday. Hope it stays that way.

In my garden grows, I have learned, they tend to do better with filtered sun during the extreme heat. Not sure what it will do with mmj.

Subscribed! Thanks for sharing. Hope you are feeding it to your mom! pr:thumbsup:

[jakezking]

luna, all of your plants are lookin' sweet! I especially enjoyed the picture of that flowering Swiss Miss! I cannot get my fill of pistils! She looks like she is going to produce some pretty sizeable buds too. Have you ever thought about lst'ing your long-necked ladies?

Most importantly though, I am sincerely happy to hear your mom is cancer free! That is incredible news, and it truly made my day!

Keep up the outstanding work on those plants!

[lunarose]

Yeah this mild Aug has been great. I'm inland so we have been in the 90s. Even with a fan going through out the day and keeping the GH door open it still gets pretty hot and humid in there but mmj handles it well. You're right about the filtered sun in the past when I had the greenhouse where it got direct sun for most of the days the plants would be obviously stressed by the heat. I think what is most important in dealing with the heat is to make sure your plants are at least 2' before the heat really kicks in.

[lunarose]

A Royal Guard from the Royal Order of Hemp or as others might call them a praying mantis who happily lives in the GH protecting the girls from any invading hordes(G)

[Shovelhandle]

Them mantis are nice insects and are friendly to humans usually. I know of a guy who picked up a mantis on his head and rode home on his motorcycle with it on his cap. He then got a great photo of him and the bug mugging for the camera. unreal.
Nice grow log here, Lun.

[lunarose]

Thanks Shov I love these little suckers they are such trippy little bugs some kids on my street actually keep one as a pet. Between the mantis and decollate snails my grows do tend to be happier(G)

[lunarose]

Hi All, New pictures. The first picture is the Swiss Miss harvest. I make cannacaps instead of smoking so I do keep some of the fan leaves and that's why they are not neatly trimmed.
The second is of my seedling and the rest are of the clones. One of the clones is just gorgeous while the third is such a strangly thing(G)

[lunarose]

Hi All, Here are a couple of a working mantis he is eating some evil invading critter(G)

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Lunarose,

I was going over your log and one thing surprised me is you harvested one plant already. Isn't it a little early to harvest for an outdoor grow? Sorry I did not go over the entire log but it hits me as a little odd for this time of the growing season.

Just asking, and nice plants by the way.

[lunarose]

Thanks. The SM was 10 months old and on her second harvest. I had planted her last year in the GH as something of an experiment. While the GH kept her warm enough to survive the winter but it really screwed up her growth rate. She flowered for the first time early spring. That's why her buds are so small.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Makes sense now. Wow that was an old timer of a plant.

JG

[lunarose]

JG, I left her with a few leaves to see if she will try a third harvest...doubt it but figured why the hell not. The seedling is her off spring from her first harvest when I pollenated a few buds and missed a seed and it just appeared.

[lunarose]

Double damn! First I accident snapped the stem of the seeding, tried to clone the broken piece failed not sure why and now what was left of the seedling which survived and is maybe a 1- 1 1/2 foot now id developing balls! LOL!!!!

[veggii]

:jointsmile:Hi luna hows the grow going? good i hope whats that stuff you there for the greenhouse? I am thinking of making a small cheap one got a few pics? good luck

[lunarose]

Vegg, The clones are just about done. I am real pleased with one but the other two are kind disappointing I'll have to get some pictures up and I'll get one of the gh. I picked it up on ebay for $40 its a real simple thing and probably won't last more then 2-3 years. I am planning a new grow for this winter with some auto flowering strains I ordered some diesel ryder and auto ak47....can't wait.