If growing 12/12 from seed [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

Revanche21

07-09-2008, 02:09 AM

LuciferN

07-09-2008, 02:49 AM

Really nice plants, this might just be the perfect solution for people with limited space, please keep us up to date with the progress.

signman2007

07-09-2008, 04:23 AM

Funny thats all I do is hydro and average 2 ounces plus a plant from seed of course and that is 12/12 from seed. From a clone you're looking at about an OZ maybe.

I use the Ebb and Flow with GH nutes and foloow the nute schedule from seedlings on up thru the bloom phase. I start the bloom phase nutes at 4 weeks and then from there on out check the PPM and keep it at 1200 with about a 25% higher N count from added fish emulsion (10 gallon res =1 cup Fox Farm Big Bloom in addition to GH bloom). No pots either just the 4" x 4" hydro cubes sitting in the bottom of my tray. Leave the plastic on them tho to keep the roots from getting light and voila!:smokin:

GreenDestiny

07-09-2008, 06:16 AM

I'd love to follow the grow log for that! If I were doing it I'd wait til the usual time for giving it nutes, probably with half veg and half bloom, and do that for at least a couple weeks before switching to all or 3/4 bloom nutes.
Before flushing it should be fine for all bloom.

Would like to try that method one day, but maybe after I make some feminized seeds.

Good luck with it

hudson88

07-09-2008, 10:46 AM

but other forums have extensive talks about it and this is the only forum where there is no debate, its just 'don't do 12/12'

Atmosphere from ICMAG(was it ICMAG? i forget) stands by 12/12 and only 12/12

others followed suit to grow decent sized plants

The last picture is Atmosphere's

There's been loads of threads on here about 12/12 from seed. Most experienced growers won't recommend it and atmosphere himself (yeah it is icmag) admits it has it's downfalls and only has a couple of specialised uses that he himself only uses with specially chosen strains. I read through most of the icmag thread and there were some people who had success with the method, giving decent yields of around an Oz however the majority got less than 1 oz per plant (some much less, a few around 5 g) and none of the lengths of grow were substantially less than if you'd vegged for 4 weeks first. It seems the strain is very important and yields are better wiith mostly sativa plants which grow naturally in conditions that are close to 12/12. Don't expect this method to give you as good a yield as you'd get if you'd vegged till maturity, don't expect the bud to be as potent and don't expect it to be smokeable more than a couple of weeks earlier. If you're growing an almost pure sativa in an area with low height then 12/12 from seed might be worth trying, anything else I wouldn't bother. JMO

signman2007

07-09-2008, 11:36 AM

If you are doing 12/12 from seed then SCrog it (screen of green). I don't know if you guys have ever heard of Spee Sees? He is a huge breeder in the UK and swears by 12/12 from seed with CO2 root injection. Google speecees.:smokin:

If you can ever get yourself some Aussie seeds by Mullaway those are like gold and he only gives to a select few breeders and I have the honor of having all five of his strains one being and outside only strain but will be doing all of them straight 12/12 from seed. Everyone is different I guess. I a 10 gallon res with a homemade tray that I grow My 6 legal plants (3 in veg and 3 bloom) and the cycle goes on.:smokin:

Revanche21

07-09-2008, 03:48 PM

Im only working with seeds I acquire through friends/bagseed

I recently got some dutch dragon I will start on sometime at the end of this month or in august, will start a log then.

Hennessy1414

07-09-2008, 08:46 PM

signman2007

07-10-2008, 12:37 AM

Don't know...normally you click on the persons name and it brings up their personal file and it should say send private message.....its not there????

Weedhound

07-10-2008, 01:02 AM

Sorry guys no pming here.......

I'd love to see a grow log for 2 oz from a plant 12/12 from seed......

But growing hydro myself I average about 5-7 oz per plant......taking a few extra weeks to let the plants veg under 18/6. Seems like a pretty fair trade off to me.

Hennessy1414

07-10-2008, 03:28 AM

Don't know...normally you click on the persons name and it brings up their personal file and it should say send private message.....its not there????
hey not trying to hijack(dont kno how to contact him another way!)
but u have no pm method. pm me please!(to the guy i wuz talken 2)

signman2007

07-10-2008, 05:24 AM

weed hound said there is no way to PM

Hennessy1414

07-10-2008, 06:20 AM

weed hound said there is no way to PM

ahh what. so everything's public here. pffff. :mad::mad::mad:

not ok with this.

Weedhound

07-10-2008, 02:25 PM

yeah afraid so guys......not sure why but I think it has something to do with MOM talk etc.....they're very strict on that type of thing around here.

Those are nice plants in those cups......I've just seen too many that crash and burn in small stuff like that to risk it myself. I like to hedge my bets so doing things the best way I can is the way I like to do stuff.....so NO teeny pots and 12/12 lighting for me.

That said.....to each his own.

good luck. :)

Revanche21

07-10-2008, 05:40 PM

seems like it would be easier to trim since its one stick, and it might be more efficient per sq ft? since you could prob stick a lot in there?

killfrenzi

07-10-2008, 11:02 PM

Well I have went ahead and started my very own 12/12 from sprout/seed.

I planted my seeds on 7/5, and been using regular 18/6 light. On 7/8 there were 2 out of 5 sprouts. On 7/9 the other 3 popped up. Today is 7/10 and I am going to wait until tomorrow, about 1 hour before my other 2 girls lights go out, then put the 5 sprouts in with them.

I guess its just trial and error. My other 2 girls went through a regular life cycle thus far.

Good luck to anyone else who tries this method.:greenthumb:

Revanche21

07-11-2008, 07:51 AM

anymore info? like what strain you are using, what type of setup etc? how experienced you are?

killfrenzi

07-11-2008, 04:29 PM

anymore info? like what strain you are using, what type of setup etc? how experienced you are?

Unknown strain, Jus some really good bag seed. I have 3 in plastic party cups. And 2 in shotglasses. I am tryin the 1oz shotglass grow, as well as the 12/12 from seed/sprout. I have grown 1ce before, but I had to chop her before harvest. "Unwanted Company" showed up. I am groing in soil. FoxFarm Ocean Forest for starter. I prolly wont transplant, well at least thats my goal. Just nute after 30 days and whatever happens, happens.

Best of Luck,
:greenthumb:

If you have any Q's I can answer. Jus ASK!

Revanche21

07-11-2008, 05:44 PM

sweet, any idea if its more leaning towards a sativa or Indica?

we should start a 12/12 from seed log thread

killfrenzi

07-11-2008, 11:02 PM

sweet, any idea if its more leaning towards a sativa or Indica?

we should start a 12/12 from seed log thread

Like I said they just sprouted 2 days ago! But 1 looks to have fatter starter leaves then the others. so they look like a mix. But if we are gon grow from 12/12 they wont get any bigger than 36-56 inces.

Fa sho we should start our own "From Seed 12/12" grow log.

oldmac

07-12-2008, 09:40 AM

Ligthing at 12/12 with seedlings will result in thin scraggly plants with a pretty reduced yield. That's why no one does it as a rule. ;)

Really nice, simple post, too bad it's wrong info.

Most sativa's come from equatorial regions, where the normal photoperiod is close to 12/12. They NORMALLY grow that way...think about it!

If your're getting stretched spindly plants indoors under lights, your problem is not enough light not the photoperiod.

Indica's seem to give mixed results to 12/12 from seed, but worth the experiment if you like playing around.

Revanche21

07-12-2008, 05:56 PM

Really nice, simple post, too bad it's wrong info.

Most sativa's come from equatorial regions, where the normal photoperiod is close to 12/12. They NORMALLY grow that way...think about it!

If your're getting stretched spindly plants indoors under lights, your problem is not enough light not the photoperiod.

Indica's seem to give mixed results to 12/12 from seed, but worth the experiment if you like playing around.

interesting

dj00140

07-13-2008, 07:48 PM

how long will it take to sex a plant given 12/12 from seed?

Revanche21

07-13-2008, 08:14 PM

From what I gather,

If its a rudarelis, it will autoflower whenever it feels like it

some sources say certain strains will sex immediately and you will end up with a 1g-2g plant, while other strains will mature until it is ready to flower yielding an average of 10g-30g per plant

hudson88

07-14-2008, 09:05 AM

how long will it take to sex a plant given 12/12 from seed?

Hey dj, i've not tried this method but from reading plenty it seems different strains will sex at different times, but the majority seem to start showing pistils at around 3-4 weeks and I think thats a big problem with the method, the length of your grow isn't reduced by much :( For the first few weeks the plant just sits there under a reduced 12/12 lighting schedule growing at a reduced rate thinking I know it's time to flower but i'm too young and immature so i'm gonna keep growing slowly until i hit puberty :wtf:

It might be an idea to let the plants veg properly under 18/6 for two weeks first before switching to 12/12 (unless your a micro grower and want tiny plants) so they grow as quickly as they can while they're only vegging anyway??

Peace

e2a - dam lovin that pic ;)

oldmac

07-16-2008, 04:20 AM

I want back thru my records to see if I had any large starts of indica from seed @ 12/12. No major grows except this interesting one.

Back in '72 I did an indoor grow of Alaskan Thunderfuck from beans.
Seeds where started using 12/12.
At day 10, the photoperiod was increased 1/2 hour,
and every day 1/2 hour more was added.
At day 34 they are 24/0, stayed that way for 10 days.
At day 44, photoperiod decreased 1/2 hour,
and everday another 1/2 was subtracted.
Plants finished, buds matured by the time I hit 10/14,
day 72.

BTW: back then I was using 8' T12 VHO power twist, Vita Lites, full spectrum floros, 8 of them.

Revanche21;
Your premise of 1-2gm per plant, ain't bad if you have enough plants. I'm currently starting a small experiment using a 300watt LED grow light by Theoreme Innovation and two 120 site EZ cloners. 1-2 days of 24 hour light, then bang them into 12/12.
I think 3gm per site is possible...but we will see. But even at 2gm, if about 200 make it out of 240 (very conservative here) that woud be 400gms! From 300watts. I'm only doing this for shits and giggles while I build a new grow system... to give the new LED light something to do.

Aspire420

07-16-2008, 04:27 AM

It will take almost twice as long as 16/8 or 18/6 to veg. You should always start with vegging nutes until it is time to flower and then use bloom. I think at that rate your plant will want to flower after two or three months. It will do it on it's own I believe but it will have to go through a full vegetative cycle. The thing is that plants in nature get at least 14 hours of light and usually 16 during the prime vegging season. So....maybe even just adding two hours might be a good idea just to speed up the process.

dj00140

07-16-2008, 02:24 PM

Hey dj, i've not tried this method but from reading plenty it seems different strains will sex at different times, but the majority seem to start showing pistils at around 3-4 weeks and I think thats a big problem with the method, the length of your grow isn't reduced by much :( For the first few weeks the plant just sits there under a reduced 12/12 lighting schedule growing at a reduced rate thinking I know it's time to flower but i'm too young and immature so i'm gonna keep growing slowly until i hit puberty :wtf:

It might be an idea to let the plants veg properly under 18/6 for two weeks first before switching to 12/12 (unless your a micro grower and want tiny plants) so they grow as quickly as they can while they're only vegging anyway??

Peace

e2a - dam lovin that pic ;)

yea i think u r right hudson, but the way i started my grow i was givin 3, 3 foot plants still in veg and started to flower them so i quickly planted 4 mandala seeds and they only got like a week to veg and then i had to flower the giants or they would out grow my grow room very quickly, anyway heres the thread if you want to check out my log!

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/158877-dj00140-s-mandala-apartment-grow-first-grow-14-days-flowering-lots-pics.html

oldmac

07-16-2008, 03:36 PM

The thing is that plants in nature get at least 14 hours of light and usually 16 during the prime vegging season. So....maybe even just adding two hours might be a good idea just to speed up the process.

Wrong. You need to seperate Indicas from Sativias. As I've said before sativas' mostly grow in equartorial areas. Maybe I'm missing something that you know but I don't here......but they DO NOT get "14 hours of light and usually 16 during prime vegging" in the equartorial regions. Unless someone is giving them supplemental light, which is not natural. The photoperiod you describe happens much further north latitude or much further south latitude.

Maybe someone on these boards who lives near the equator, or has visited there can attest to the photoperiod of the region.

a420seeker

07-19-2008, 09:18 PM

From personal experence from seed to sex can go anywhere from 7 to 21 days :cool:depending on the dominant strain.

Revanche21

07-21-2008, 10:48 PM

1-2g would be a very very conservative estimate, most ppl from other forums report 14g-20g per plant

Forwhat420

08-03-2008, 08:20 PM

I asked this question too a few weeks ago and had little response so i decided to give it a go..

Fertilizer-fox farm starter 3-3-3/micronutes mixed in top half jamaican bat guano in the bottom half (organics) will also supplement use fox farm tiger bloom at first sign of flowering.

Pots and lighting- started in 3 inch starters under 1 week of 24/0 t-5, Immediately moved to 2 gallon under 400 watt after first set of true leaves.
(Guess this qualifies of 12/12 from seedling?)

Indica/sativa mix bag seed.

I will log this here if you want Rev, since we are all curious or I will start my own thread if my company is not wanted.

Forwhat420

08-03-2008, 08:22 PM

all plants are 25 days from seed...the bigger ones were transplanted 3 days sooner so I guess the timing of transplants can play a part in how fast growth occurs...

Revanche21

08-07-2008, 08:52 PM

Sweet thanks much for your experimentation!

I will post my own later on, I can't grow atm :\

keep us updated!

Forwhat420

08-07-2008, 09:00 PM

hey Rev, thanks for the reply

they have shot up alot since I posted that a few days ago..Still no signs of flowers. I will post a pic in another week or so, in order to be able to tell the changes.

Revanche21

08-08-2008, 12:43 AM

hey Rev, thanks for the reply

they have shot up alot since I posted that a few days ago..Still no signs of flowers. I will post a pic in another week or so, in order to be able to tell the changes.

yea I've been curious, I have just been hectic and busy lately sorry for the late reply!

:jointsmile:

smokyj

08-12-2008, 12:00 AM

Dyranty

08-12-2008, 12:38 AM

SmokeyJ : I'm really curious about the 12/12.

How old is that stick in the pic?

Any more info you could add would be great. Nice to hear from someone with some experience in 12/12 or 11/13 :jointsmile:

Forwhat420

08-12-2008, 02:38 AM

Hey smoke also what kind of strain is that also? It seems that more sativa dominant strains do better under straight 12/12.

smokyj

08-12-2008, 12:58 PM

That one was started June 12.It has about A week maybe 2 left.I like A strong head buzz,so Im letting her go longer.All I have access to is bag seed.This plant had really thin leaves.And its only about 12 inches tall.To get half white and half amber hairs it took 3 months,almost to the day.

Revanche21

08-12-2008, 07:41 PM

Im no expert or anything.But I was getting about 5 grams per palnt under 12/12.175 watt hps and 4 6500k cfl bulbs.This time I went with 13/11.What I got was A stick with A giant bud on the end of it....lol.Its not done yet,but I just do this for my own enjoyment,and it does ease A bad back. Also Im only growing in A 2 feet high by 3 feet wide area.

this is exactly what im talking about, certain strains tend to just flower and make a bonsai plant from what I gather, and others will grow a foot to two feet before flowering...

I guess benefits would be to get a limited amount of seeds!
If you need just a handful of seeds, 12/12 with a known strain to bonsai

Forwhat420

08-16-2008, 03:37 PM

Soooooo. Rev you are right about the plant size..I ended up with 5 beauties, all starting to flower at 12-14 inches with 6-7 nodes. 38 days old today...Will feed 1/2 strength tiger bloom this next watering.

Revanche21

08-16-2008, 03:48 PM

Important to note you did 24/0 for a week first

Maybe thats the key to this 1-2 ft plants

might be good for SoG

with little 'poles' you can fit more plants into smaller areas

harvesting becomes easier as you only have one big cola to deal with no tiny popcorn nugs of inferior quality

Forwhat420

08-16-2008, 03:52 PM

Hey rev, I completely agree with you.. I would suggest planting double of what you plan on harvesting if from seed. I wonder how big they will end up?
Would like to also note that I started with 16 seeds and ended up with only 6 females:wtf:
Happy to say that I do have a mother started that is about twice the size of all of them (started at the same time).

Revanche21

08-16-2008, 04:26 PM

Forwhat420

08-16-2008, 06:06 PM

Im wondering the same thing..Guess I will have to wait till next time to see about that one.

hydrocannabis

08-19-2008, 11:07 PM

Im wondering the same thing..Guess I will have to wait till next time to see about that one.

update? please pix.
and I really want to see how this turns out. cuz I am now trying this also.

Forwhat420

08-20-2008, 11:33 PM

a hydro the plants are a beauty!!! I will post pics in a hour or so..getting ready to feed my munchies now.

Forwhat420

08-21-2008, 01:46 AM

So here ya go!! Four days older. Growing fast smallest one is 16 inches tallest one is 18...I think I may transplant soon still contemplating it though.

Forwhat420

08-21-2008, 01:48 AM

a couple more... How do they look?

hydrocannabis

08-21-2008, 06:10 AM

daaaaaammmmmmmmmm.:thumbsup: so they been in flower for how long now?
flowering with a 400 watter very nice indeed.:D

I wish U much good luck on getting a good yield.:D

over and out.

Forwhat420

08-21-2008, 03:06 PM

Hey thanks for the kind words Dro...They are 2 weeks since signs of flower. Time to fert today with 2nd shot of fox farm tiger bloom 1 tsp, grow big 1/2 tsp, and one tablespoon of molasses.

I accidently left my light on 4 extra hours last night by fogetting to turn my timer back on. The difference in flower size is amazing from last night. I still wont let it happen again though! :jointsmile:

stinkyattic

08-21-2008, 03:50 PM

They look very healthy, and will need larger pots very very soon (unless the rootbound symptoms are from before you put them in the bags).

Forwhat420

08-21-2008, 04:07 PM

Hello stinky thankyou for the compliment, and you just put the icing on the cake for me by telling me to transplant, I have been contemplating on it for the last 3 days...Guess I have something to do in the garden to night.

Forwhat420

08-21-2008, 04:18 PM

now I got to figure out how to get them out of the bags undisturbed...Thinking about just cutting them down the side like I usually do but I am feeling cheap right now and want to keep my bags. Oh well we will see how I feel when I do it.

Forwhat420

08-22-2008, 02:26 AM

Here are a few random shots...

Forwhat420

08-22-2008, 02:29 AM

finally got a MOM!!! Its been about 90 days total already of playing in the dirt. The others are pictures of the root on my clone placed straight into a water bottle filled with water. 11 days to show roots.

Forwhat420

08-22-2008, 02:36 AM

and here are the ladies after a transplant..Coming up on the end of week 2 of flower. Took a little over a month to show...Started under 24/0 for one week from seed. We can start directly under 12/12 but I think one week of 24/0 is the difference between 5 grams per plant or 14-28 grams per plant. We will see though...

Forwhat420

08-22-2008, 02:45 AM

During the transplant I added 2 tablespoons of high phosphourous guano and also 2 tablespoons organic mirconutes 3-3-3 by fox farm into the bottom gallon of the pot and mixed thouroughly...I didnt add any grow big or tiger bloom, instead I will wait and see how they adjust to the organic ferts.

SunnyD

08-22-2008, 02:50 AM

Beautiful dark leaves bro!

THey look happy man

Forwhat420

08-22-2008, 02:51 AM

Beautiful dark leaves bro!

THey look happy man

thanks!!!

anbesol

08-22-2008, 02:56 AM

12/12 from seed. I was skeptical when this post first came around. Your grow is very interesting. Good Luck.

Forwhat420

08-22-2008, 03:10 AM

12/12 from seed. I was skeptical when this post first came around. Your grow is very interesting. Good Luck.

Hello AN, thanks for tuning in! I questioned it to at the beggining but I figure I used to start my seeds outside on Aug. 1 and got a decent size plant so it had to be worth a shot inside. I must say I think it totally depends on the genetics. Most 50/50 mixes perform well this way, but other indica dominants may not. Sativa's probably take a while to flower as well because they are used to 12/12 climatic conditions.....

Best of growing to everyone, and if your bold enough give it a shot;):jointsmile::rasta::pimp:

hydrocannabis

08-22-2008, 04:31 AM

wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.

very nice looking.

Forwhat420

08-22-2008, 06:08 PM

wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.

very nice looking.

Hey thanks hydro!

hydrocannabis

08-30-2008, 05:40 PM

any new pix of em?

Forwhat420

09-03-2008, 12:50 AM

3 weeks, 2 days since first signs of flower. Had to pull the 600 out, babies getting tall and needed the 400 for other things:wtf:

It looks like its time for another transplant already I think...Only about 10 days?

Forwhat420

09-03-2008, 12:52 AM

Lets try this again...

dooobster

09-03-2008, 01:21 AM

I think they're looking great. Doesn't look like they need transplanting to me...
I'd just let 'em finish in what they're in.
Great job!

Revanche21

09-03-2008, 04:29 AM

looks awesome! can't wait to begin my 24/0 for a week grow

stinkyattic

09-03-2008, 02:36 PM

It's worth checking the condition of the root ball. They may be ready. It's obvious that they are healthy and vigorous, which also means those root systems may surprise you.
Finally, you should be eliminating N from their diets entirely at this point. While beautiful green glossy leaves LOOK great, towards the end of flower, you want to see the low leaves- at least- starting to go yellow, meaning the plant is breaking down chlorophyll to scavenge Nitrogen, and your harvested product will taste MUCH better.
Very nice work.

hydrocannabis

09-03-2008, 11:29 PM

wow wow. they look badass. cant to see them finish buds.

:thumbsup:

Revanche21

09-04-2008, 06:55 AM

indeed better than most predicted

ian2992

09-07-2008, 07:44 PM

hmm i find this topic very interesting.....i think im going to try to do a microgrow starting with 24 hour light the first 1-2 weeks depending on growth speed. ATM i have a rubbermaid box with 4 18 watt clfs which makes a total of 72 watts :thumbsup:. i guess ill just use 16 oz cups to start em and move them to bigger pots if needed. I only have bag seeds but if the first grow is successful i might be making some orders off the internet ;). Whats all of your opinions of the grow? Expect a grow log soon after i germ the seeds :hippy:.

Revanche21

09-11-2008, 06:45 PM

check my sig, going to do my experiment as well

soobie05

09-12-2008, 06:40 AM

Awsome grow Forwhat420, im for sure going to skip my hydro and try this out.

couple questions though i picked up some advanced nutes 12/12 from seed grow really would fit in perfect to my space, the nutes i have are sensibloom A nd B, Voodoojuice, and big bud powder. would these nutes be suitable for this kind of grow? thx for any advice.

Revanche21

09-12-2008, 02:24 PM

yea im curious as to what your feeding schedule was? did you just use fruiting-bloom type of nutrients? or did you use some vegging nutrients as well?

can you give us what schedule and brand?(and npk):thumbsup:

soobie05

09-12-2008, 03:14 PM

Heres the link for the feed schedule

Advanced Nutrients - Nutrient Calculator (http://www.advancednutrients.com/nutcalc3public/)

from their theres a button you can click that says Nutrient Base, the once i use is High Yield.

man i cant wait to see some udated pics of forwhat420s plants!

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 09:52 PM

Hello all,,,sry have not had time to post but all is well in the land of 12/12. Will post pics soon...As for feeding schedule I ended up using strictly organics for this grow... I started them in 3 inch nursery trays and after they sprouted 1 set of leaves I transplanted them into 2 gallon bags of pro-mix with a product from Happy Frog called JUMP START 3-4-3 with Humidic acid and Mycronaz..(something lol), Added 2 tablespoons to BOTTOM gallon of the soil to allow roots time to grow into, and also one tablespoon of Sunleaves Jamacain Bat Guano high phos. N-P-K-= 1-10-.02

Flowering showed first signs at day 33. This is when I conducted one more transplant into 3 gallon pots adding 2 tbl. spoons of the Happy frog and two tablespoons of the Sunleaves Jamacain. Started adding molasses at the rate of 1 tablespoon per gallon and also added 1/2 tsp of Tiger Bloom once. Only applied Tiger bloom that first time, which was around day 30 something... Other than that just water using the molasses every other time..

I have to admit most people look over organics,, they want to use chemicals to achieve big fat buds... But if used effectively organics can produce just as pretty buds as hydro or chems...With WAY less maintenance!!! Also I might add the size of the buds are very very nice!!! Will post pics of proof in a few hours.....

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 10:26 PM

one...

medigrower

09-12-2008, 10:37 PM

WHAT!! how old are those? from germ?

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 10:39 PM

Somewhere around day 65 from germ...

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 10:41 PM

To be honest i dont think they are that old looking back over the thread dates!!! maybe you can help me figure out LOL....

medigrower

09-12-2008, 10:43 PM

Organics!! they look beautiful.

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 10:49 PM

Organics!! they look beautiful.

Thank you Meds,,,and the taste is soooo much better!!!!! Now I'm banking on the leaves turning yellow in the next 4 weeks....Hope it happens!!! Some are starting on the bottom believe it or not!!

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 10:55 PM

I like this she smells like watermelon bubblegum!!!! lol

medigrower

09-12-2008, 11:18 PM

goin to be a monster, damn, what lighting do u have going?

soobie05

09-12-2008, 11:29 PM

all hail forwhat420!! man thats awsome. Got me scratching my head! but anyyways may i ask you where you go those plastic potting bags you used in ur first pictures?

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 11:35 PM

all hail forwhat420!! man thats awsome. Got me scratching my head! but anyyways may i ask you where you go those plastic potting bags you used in ur first pictures?

Greetings soobie!!! I actually get them from my local hydro shop...Usually they are out of sight so u have to ask...Whats got u scatching ur head?

Forwhat420

09-12-2008, 11:36 PM

Meds I started out under a two bulb 24 inch T-5 fluoro set...Then through them under a 400....Now they are up under the 600.

Forwhat420

09-13-2008, 01:37 AM

Well good night all,,,I am going to transplant one more time this week when the pots dry out up to 5 gallon with one tablespoon of phosphorous to finish up. Stay tuned cuz we are on the home stretch now...bud in 90 days looks like...not so bad, I still like working with clones better,,60-75 days..

Forwhat420

09-13-2008, 05:53 PM

Afternoon all:pimp:
Two...

hydrocannabis

09-13-2008, 06:14 PM

OMFG. wooooooow.:thumbsup:

nice job. cant wate to see the harvest pix.

Forwhat420

09-13-2008, 06:18 PM

Thanks Dro!!! 30 days and counting lol..

Forwhat420

09-16-2008, 11:17 PM

Final transplant....Looks like just in time, the roots were rootbound. Ending in 5 gallon pots.. Its alotta work for these ladies, well I guess its like that for any lady;) Anyway will post pics later if you want..

Forwhat420

09-20-2008, 11:49 PM

So I dont have anymore green...I picked a small bud yesterday morning and put it on top of the refridgerator. Smoking it now, and my girl, who doesnt smoke much eyes or bloodshot. Wow only 5 weeks in.
Stinky my leaves are starting to yellow and the buds are coming of age really nice. My girl says that the taste is really smooth and this is quick dried!! Me, I have a damn summer cold and I cant taste shit but I do feel a nice little body numbing. Think it will be nice. 3 weeks to go...

Revanche21

09-23-2008, 02:40 AM

so excited it worked out for you

I hope my 12/12 direct from seed works out as well

Forwhat420

09-23-2008, 07:20 PM

Hey Rev,,,
I doubt you will have any worries with 12/12 from seed. Not over for me yet but getting close.
If there is anything to take from this experience it is this..
If you want massive single cola plants and have a lot of seeds on hand, then it is a good way to get bud in 90 days from seed. It also gives you a chance to pick out a few mothers and continue on to flowering.
I personally will be running clones from now on:thumbsup: But it was a nice experiment to get started for this season... Pics later..

Forwhat420

09-29-2008, 02:08 AM

6 weeks 4 days.... Had a hermie in the mix culled 4 days ago..Super smoke for a six weeker..

InspectahEX

10-04-2008, 12:00 AM

Revanche21

10-04-2008, 01:10 AM

Im not sure how he did his but mine is going to be one-two weeks of veg nutes and then switch to bloom im just going to play it by eye lol

InspectahEX

10-04-2008, 01:13 AM

cool, I have a grow space that wont allow me to grow plants taller then 3.5 ft, you think a 12/12 from seed grow will fill that space up? or should I veg for a couple extra weeks?

Forwhat420

10-04-2008, 03:56 AM

Hey guys I just started an Aeroponic grow. I was wondering how do you feed your plants going 12/12 from seed? Do you feed them Veg or Bloom nutes? or both? or do u start bloom from start? or start veg then go bloom? Also how long does it usually take for a plant to go from seed to harvest under 12/12 from seed?

Hi,,well if I were you I would give them at least one week 24 hours light. I would feed a very small amount of veg nutes for the first 30 days and then switch over to bloom after that. From seed it still takes anywhere from 70-90 days. The plants stay very compact though. My dry weight of the hermie was exactly one ounce. This was picked 2 weeks early. The others will yield more I am sure. Depending upon how many plants you run, this can be a good idea. But if you are only running a couple then veg them longer...

Revanche21

10-10-2008, 07:37 PM

Lookin great! more pics! :D

LuciferN

10-10-2008, 08:02 PM

Nice Christmas trees you got there !
Good Work !

DasPachy

10-14-2008, 04:39 AM

Amazing work Forwhat, very inspiring. How tall are they at this point? And how do you feel this technique would work using CFLs?

Revanche21

10-22-2008, 05:55 PM

So just wanted to stop by and let peepulz know to check in my sig and check out my 12/12 from seed log as well

It would be great since you would only need one tent running 12/12 at all times

bigsmoke07

10-25-2008, 02:22 PM

i love this idea i alwas wondered what would happen if you did 12/12 from seed of course with a week to veg. im def doin this on my next grow. im on my first ever grow right now. not looking so good out of four plants 2 are males right now that i know of and one female and the other unknown. but i doin this type of grow next time thanx for th3 inspiration.
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