Operation THREE SEEDS TO THE WIND!

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

:thumbsup: anyone reading this is now a conspirator! yay for internet! :D


:hippy: so... you know how sometimes birds can crap out fully intact seeds that later grow into plants and grasses? how the fecal content even fertilizes the seeds? (maybe im wrong, but bear with me :stoned:)

what if we started feeding our excess seeds to the birds?


If one person just randomly plants herb here and there, the DEA wipes out the plants every day.

if 50 people do it, the DEA wipes out almost all the plants every day...

if 500 people randomly plant their seeds without the intention of ever attending to the plants, the DEA can wipe out most of the plants...



How many agents and tax dollars would be required to wipe out one billion marijuana and hemp plants on a daily basis?

[GreenDestiny]

Awesome idea. I'd wondered about the integrity of cannabis seeds being shat out by birds, but didn't even think of it as a way to spread the seeds to grow random plants...

I would totally do this, one day when I grow again I'll pick a male and female to be my bird seed providers and fill up the feeder full of seeds.

Kinda reminds me of people attaching a pack of seeds to a helium balloon and setting it free.

[HighTy]

I would do this but i only got a small handful of seeds lol

[stinkyattic]

Great. There goes any possibility of ever producing sinsemilla bud outdoors ever again. :(

[the image reaper]

Great. There goes any possibility of ever producing sinsemilla bud outdoors ever again. :(

yeah, "cast your pollen to the winds" ... :jointsmile:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Great. There goes any possibility of ever producing sinsemilla bud outdoors ever again. :(

that really ought to be grown in your basement or in a greenhouse anyways o_O

better quality via controlled conditions, no?



I would do this but i only got a small handful of seeds lol


save 'em up, we dont want to just start doing this randomly, we need a hella handful of people ready to participate before anyone should try this.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

so........ who's in?

[temujin8]

why not just go through some local forest preserves and spread bagseed around like how Johny Appleseed supposedly did. I know when im smoking in the woods i toss seeds where i know damn well it will germinate. the deer always get at it though =(

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

why not just go through some local forest preserves and spread bagseed around like how Johny Appleseed supposedly did. I know when im smoking in the woods i toss seeds where i know damn well it will germinate. the deer always get at it though =(


why not??? that's jsut as good as anything else!


thing is we need a lot of people working together without so much as acknowledging each other to really accomplish anything of this nature.



remember, we're planting these to bring the plant back to life, not to smoke it all.

[frostymcfailure]

a birdie landed on my shoulder today and stated "coat in peanut butter then roll in bird seed for best results" before stealing my J & flying away... Sick bastard.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

a birdie landed on my shoulder today and stated "coat in peanut butter then roll in bird seed for best results" before stealing my J & flying away... Sick bastard.



how very poetic too!



yeargh peanut butter is a good idea! :rastasmoke:


i like how dogs lick forevers off peanut butter.


*hums the theme from Bond movies and strolls out before getting shot and the screen turns red*

[stinkybudz]

i have the room i should do this.... take about 20 plants all cloned from a single mother, grow em to mother size, take as many clones as i can from those 20 plants and then hermie them. i mean thats only like a billion seeds lol :jointsmile: no sensi crops ruined either

[stinkyattic]

that really ought to be grown in your basement or in a greenhouse anyways o_O
better quality via controlled conditions, no?
no.
Try, growing outdoors is more environmentally friendly in a world that has not entirely accepted the concept of electricity from renewable sources...
You take outdoor crops out of the equation, your pound price goes through the roof. By tenfold, easily.

[SunnyD]

no.
Try, growing outdoors is more environmentally friendly in a world that has not entirely accepted the concept of electricity from renewable sources...
You take outdoor crops out of the equation, your pound price goes through the roof. By tenfold, easily.

True that, haven't you seen those mass fields of crop from drug helicopter videos? That would make prices SKYROCKET!

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

okay... so wait a minute, im confused, why cant we grow crops now?

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I've wanted to do this for years, myself, but buying seeds is so damn expensive. I've never found a seed in a bag of weed either; just pure, unadulterated bud.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

try buying off of a seedy dealer, no pun intended.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Stoner conspiracy # 6928G

Spilling seeds in landscape architecture.



Stoner conspiracy # 325

distributing free joints to recreational areas by setting them in obvious yet inconspicuous places and walking away.



Stoner Conspiracy # 65627

telling people about random stoner conspiracies over the internet :D

[Potcake]

I just had this same basic Idea the other day.

I live in a town that is known for growing apples and I grew up with the story of Johnny Apple Seed, he was a character that was always walking around at my town's apple festival, and our elementary teachers loved the story.

I thought of the idea while I was driving, thought about calling it Shauny Pot Seed, (Shaun's my name) and I wanted to post suggesting everyone take their seeds that they might get from a bag o green and just cast them in near by fields or where proper conditions would lead to growth.

I told the idea to my boyfriend and he pointed me here and said read.

I had one concern... will the introduction of these new breeds of Cannabis into the many areas of the Americas act like foreign species and spread out of control? (From a Biologically conservative standpoint not the stoner stand point cause out of control would be stoner heaven :thumbsup:) It's not like we'd be spreading around ditchweed; which I assume would be the more native form of the species. Any thoughts?

[veggii]

:thumbsup: anyone reading this is now a conspirator! yay for internet! :D


How many agents and tax dollars would be required to wipe out one billion marijuana and hemp plants on a daily basis?

by George. I think this man has something there!! .... yes ...yes ..!!


:hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy:

[grow1964]

An excersize in futility IMO. This idea has also been around for a very long time, since before I started smoking which was a loooooong time ago. A few problems with it however.
1) Lots of pollen in the air will make breeding or growing sincee a nightmare.2) Whats the point? More dea agents in the fields or forests? I would prefer as few of them around as possible.
I know the popular argument is that we will break the back of the government by doing this. thats not going to happen either. In case you havent noticed the government has unlimited borrowing power. This power stems from thier percieved right to tax you to death. In fact a couple weeks ago they raised the debt cieling another 800 billion. A few bilion to dea agents is nothing to these people and in the end you will pay higher taxes to pay for it. IMO not a good idea.

[Platinum Plus]

Great Idea but you'll have to convince a lot of people. I would be up for it though. :)

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

An excersize in futility IMO. This idea has also been around for a very long time, since before I started smoking which was a loooooong time ago. A few problems with it however.
1) Lots of pollen in the air will make breeding or growing sincee a nightmare.2) Whats the point? More dea agents in the fields or forests? I would prefer as few of them around as possible.
I know the popular argument is that we will break the back of the government by doing this. thats not going to happen either. In case you havent noticed the government has unlimited borrowing power. This power stems from thier percieved right to tax you to death. In fact a couple weeks ago they raised the debt cieling another 800 billion. A few bilion to dea agents is nothing to these people and in the end you will pay higher taxes to pay for it. IMO not a good idea.



pardon this very angry outburst but im getting sick and FUCKING tired of this CRAP.


IT'S A PLANT.

BY GOD, we arent even SUPPOSED to BE PAYING TAXES IN THE FIRST PLACE! i would have thought those patriotic Americans would have been standing up and protesting their right to BE American!Isnt being american supposed to be about freedom, liberty, and JUSTICE?!?

Well let's see... we're taxed to death, there goes our freedom, for without spending power, we cannot BE free.
So much for liberty! we're supposed to be allowed to pursue that which satisfy our lives! WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE HAPPINESS!
Justice?!?!? FUCKING GOD DAMNED IDIOTS MADE A PLANT ILLEGAL AND YOU THINK THERE IS ANY JUSTICE IN AMERICA?!?



somewhere it is said that the lowest common denominator is the representation of the whole: the worst off individual in a society is THE representation of how effective that said society is.


GET OFF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND START ROLLING SOME GOD DAMNED HEADS ALREADY!



The U.S. Government is the equivalent of the Great Britten we originally ran from in the first fucking place now!!! it's like we pulled a rubber band effect! we stretched across the seas, only to have the crap we were running from SNAP back at us and whip us in the ass!


and yes it seems there are barely a handful of us who are even aware of the atrocious state of the nation?! what the fuck people, get a clue huh?!



the whole point of being an American is to be our own independent persons, to be responsible for ourselves!

what the hell, i mean what have we REALLY got to lose? is freedom, liberty, and justice for ALL not worth betting your life on?! i would much prefer to give my life and die in attempt to make a positive change than to jsut sit here trying to inspire a bunch of people on the internet to start taking direct action!

If, for the last mother fucking god damned 75 IGNORANT years, politics have not been able to reestablish some sense into america, it's ABOUT FUCKING TIME WE FORCE OUR WILL TO BE FREE BACK INTO THE FUCKING RULE BOOKS!!!

no one is going to GIVE us our fucking freedom you stupid oafs! we HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO FIGHT FOR IT WITH OUR LIVES!


if you cant agree that freedom, liberty, and justice for all is worth risking your life, perhaps it's about high time i started interviewing people in the streets, this very topic, and simply weeding out the fuckers who are holding america down with their ignorance and stupidity.



it's about time SOMETHING got done! psuhing papers isnt working, take up arms for GOD'S SAKE!



*sigh*


okay... so...


1.) so what is the difference going on here, people are growing outside right now and pollen isnt an issue??? and if you're talking about just the pollen from the weed, then do what professional botanists do: USE A FUCKING GREENHOUSE OR YOUR BASEMENT.

I, personally, would prefer to let nature take it's corse and cross breed however which way mother nature wants to, and if we want a special weed, then we're going to have to take special percaussions to raise it.

2.) the fuel behind my little angry rant there.... let's start TAKING freedom, and stop sitting around waiting for someone to HAND it to us. fucking snot nosed brat tactics there eh? just waiting with your hand out saying "gimme". fuck that. point a military force of all the fucking stoners in america at the white house and say "gtfo". if we cant be free, why are we still fucking living, what's the FUCKING POINT, HUH?! your INSIGNIFICANT LITTLE SELF is more important than correcting a 70 year old injustice?!? god damned snot nosed brats! LIVE FOR SOMETHING. stop living for the sake of experiencing some false sense of kinghood and get off your fat lazy asses and DO something with your life, for a REAL cause! and not just one of those damned charity organizations, you aint doing SHIT by donating your fucking cash; you're paying someone else to do something FOR you. that's spoiled and snot nosed for ya. get off your ass, stand up, walk around, meet with like minded people and start organizing!*

the only reason we're slaving away for the government is because WE LET THINGS BE THIS WAY. if we work with the system, we are RETARDED. THEY ARE THE SYSTEM!!! THEY MAKE THE RULES THEY BREAK THE RULES, and NO ONE can STOP them by playing by THEIR rules!

The government is supposed to work for US, not the other way around!!!

but alas, no one is with spine in today's world who still actually gives a shit about Freedom, Liberty, and Justice anymore.
and those of us who do are seemingly unable to get organized, WHY?!

What is actually stopping everyone from giving up their lives in the name of justice?! i mean c'mon what possible reason do you have to damn our future generations to more of THIS?!

[grow1964]

SSW A good rant and I pretty much agree with everything you said.

There are many reasons we are in the situation we are in today. Media, government and way to many people on the system.

The overall leaning in this country nowadays is to move towards socialism. From wall street to main street, the government wants to control everything.

First we need to get people off the system and understanding that they need to be responsible for themselves. The government doesnt want that though, they have more control when people are dependent upon them.

Even if you changed those people on the system you still have 90% of America that is clueless. They are evenly devided as dems and repubs. Few realize they are the same thing nowadays.

That leaves us with about 10% of us that truly want freedom back. The end result is that we would need to fight 90% of the people and the government in order to obtain that. Its not easy to come to grips with this. Its taken me a while. The sad thing is that when the 10% of us talk about freedom we are looked at as some kind of kooks.. LOL..

Anyway, in order to restore freedom your going to need to change the 90% of the population that is brain dead or brain washed by the media. As long as the media exists there will be a socialist agenda pushed.

The only thing that may wake people up is the coming implosion in the US economy. Its already started but most dont even see it. Bear sterns being bought out, Fannie and freddie being taken over by the government. Yea their profits were private but their losses belong to all of us.. LOL.. The bottom line is they had to do these things to try and hold shit together. This system is a lot more fragile than people realize and its going to take a little longer for it to fully unwind. Whn it does the government is going to print money like crazy to try and hold shit together. It wont work and is only going to lead to massive inflation. The result will be, all savings, 401k's, pensions, everything is going to be wiped out.

It all started with the housing mess. and now the credit crunch, but if you listen to the media they are saying the worst is behind us, now is the time to buy.. Dont believe it. Between now and the end of 09 we are going to see some serious corrections in housing. As this continues more and more are going to be unemployed. This will further lead to a decline in the US economy and its really just a snowball effect.

71% of the US economy is consumer spending. Again the medi acts like all is well. If that was the case the government wouldnt be sending out checks to everyone to try and stimulate the economy. Things are far worse than any media outlet or government agency will let on to.

Why do I say all this? Because this may be a blessing for us freedom lovers. It wont be until many lose everything that they realize the American dream was a dream built on ever expanding debt. Once these people start to lose everything we may see them wake up to the reality that they need to take care of themselves and government needs to leave us alone.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

hhhaaaaaahahahaha im glad you liked my rant hah! but still, i thought i came off as an ass, and wanted to apologize for acusing everyone of being part of the problem... well outwardly accusing them anyways i still believe anyone who isnt working toward making things better is only helpping make them worse... but that's moot, it doesnt matter what i think... im still part of the problem as there is nothing i can do to help anyways so what difference does it make? lol


aanyways... yeah...


personally, i would feel a lot more relieved if that 10% went down in a blaze of glory, trying to correct a serious wrong, than to walk another hundred miles in this carnival shit called society, trying to win over public opinion.

no... the american dream was never supposed to be on debt, it was hardly even supposed to be about money, it was supposed to be about freedom and justice, the liberty to live our own individual lives to our own personal law. the american dream is about being able to be free.

it changed in the few centuries after independence was declared... once we HAD what we wanted, we lost sight of the POINT, and NOW we're THIS putrid, disgusting, vile, greedy system...


i dont know... but... i want to... i want to know what we can do to make a positive change...



or should we instigate a collapse of the economy and just slap everyone awake with an ice cold cod?

[grow1964]

You hit the nail on the head. Individually there isnt much anyone can do. So IMO first and foremost we need to reeducate America on what is really going on.
First if we get rid of the fed we solve many many problems. More people are starting to understand this. Unfortunately many people still think the federal reserve is part of the federal government. (Those bankers aint so stupid huh? ) There is a good book out called the creature from jekyl island which explains how the bankers basically took over the US back in 1913. Understanding the problem and the cause of the problem is the first step to solving the problem. Once more people understand this as the source of many problems in the US we will all look at these bank bailouts in a much different light and collectively be able to force our politicians to do something about it.

Another part of the problem is the politicians have made it so incredibly complicated to get anything done here that it seems like an impossible task. Want to fight any law in place? Plan on 75-100k plus 7 years of your life at a minimum to get anything done. Heres a couple unconstitutional laws.
Seatbelt law.
Mandatory insurance in ma also unconstitutional. How do they get away with it? Who's going to fight it? If you dont have ins in Ma then you get a fine of 180.00. So you pay the fine or you can take it back to the supreme court and spend 75k and 7 years to do it. Even then theres no gaurentee the SC will even hear your case. They may just say we have already ruled on this no need to go further. Thats great except every court before them would have had to reject their decision in order for you to be there. So where do you stand then? SOL!! LOL..

So to answer your question, what can we do? For now just keep educating people. Some will listen and others will have their eyes glaze over because they have the attention span of a fruit fly an cant comprehend the big picture. Refer them to the book I listed above, refer them to the losthorizons website for tax info. Also truthattack.org for tax onfo. The gim website. Goldismoney. Lots of alternate thinking there as well but also very frustrating because most there wont do anything either. They do understand what is coming down the road though and will be better prepared than most.

I do more than most. I send letters to my congresscrittrer on a regular basis. This week i sent 2. Even sent one today. I talk to as many people as I can on the subject and a few listen, most dont want to hear it. Its like telling them the truth and all they want is to stick thier heads in the sand. LOL..

I'm also looking for a piece of land in South America. Much less resources for thm to do any enforcement and one country in particular is looking at decriminalizing. Land is cheaper. I like the climate in the places i am looking so thats a bonus too.

Why leave if I love my country? Maybe because it is the last real expression of freedom that I can excersize? Your also much more apt to find like minded people in an expat community. They understand whats happened here and are definitely awake so to speak.





hhhaaaaaahahahaha im glad you liked my rant hah! but still, i thought i came off as an ass, and wanted to apologize for acusing everyone of being part of the problem... well outwardly accusing them anyways i still believe anyone who isnt working toward making things better is only helpping make them worse... but that's moot, it doesnt matter what i think... im still part of the problem as there is nothing i can do to help anyways so what difference does it make? lol


aanyways... yeah...


personally, i would feel a lot more relieved if that 10% went down in a blaze of glory, trying to correct a serious wrong, than to walk another hundred miles in this carnival shit called society, trying to win over public opinion.

no... the american dream was never supposed to be on debt, it was hardly even supposed to be about money, it was supposed to be about freedom and justice, the liberty to live our own individual lives to our own personal law. the american dream is about being able to be free.

it changed in the few centuries after independence was declared... once we HAD what we wanted, we lost sight of the POINT, and NOW we're THIS putrid, disgusting, vile, greedy system...


i dont know... but... i want to... i want to know what we can do to make a positive change...



or should we instigate a collapse of the economy and just slap everyone awake with an ice cold cod?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

hell yeah if you buy land in brazil or something, wherever you do, make a nice hippie community, and i will WALK there if i fucking have to!!! hahahaha


good luck!

[GoddessHerb]

with birds. I have been feeding Cannabis seeds to my bird for years and NEVER has he let one fall without destroying it and munching away on the tasty meat inside. If you have a flock of wild birds doing the same thing you may get some spilling around the plants that may sprout the next season but the eaten ones would not come out whole. The birds planting seeds works best with fruits that have small seeds thus the birds aren't interested in eating the seeds but the fruit, therefore more seeds survive the grinding process. I see Cannabis as similar to sunflower seeds which aren't very often planted by birds but may be transported by something larger like a squirrel. Interestingly the american birdseed industry was one of the few that vehemently opposed Cannabis prohibition. Along with the AMA of course ;)

I too have had the idea of being a Jenny Cannaseed and think that if we could get some donations from dealers with seedy brick and growers who would like to help we could get more than enough free seed to distribute along the highways and in the state forests etc. Anyone know any growers willing to make some seeds to donate??? If you need to convince them tell them seeded Cannabis is more potent (which it is) than sinsimellia.

Oh and breeding should only be done in a closed environment so you know exactly what you're getting... lest you end up with some genetically modified government crap Cannabis. They've already let the corn, soybeans, and rice get away....perhaps it will be their next front in the War on Cannabis, fertilize growers plots with feral ditch weed and hope they grow those crap seeds instead. Then we can sell that Cannabis back to them for their medical cannabis program. HAHAHAHA :S2:

Blessed Be~

P.S. I have to disagree that one person cannot make a difference. One person can make a tremendous difference they just have to be willing to give everything (including their life) to their cause and most stoners just don't care enough. If you doubt the power of one person then look at people like Harriet Tubman, Susan B Anthony, Rosa Parks, MLK Jr., Mahatma Ghandi etc. It was these people's INDIVIDUAL contribution that inspired others to follow and support their cause. Too bad Cannabis users give up too easily. Someday I hope to have the emotional fortitude to stand up for myself and others. Unfortunately it was not something I was raised with so it's going to take me a while to learn it. But I'm trying.... and that's all anyone can really do. :hippy: Blessed be and one love to all.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

one person cant do a lick of shit if no one is listening...

but if you can organize a big enough crowd... one person is still nothing, it never IS one person afterall, but a GROUP of people who make the change.

it only takes one person to start the ripple effect, but it takes a group to put forth the next ripples... it takes a community to make a change, and a society to make it stick.

[GoddessHerb]

SSW~ May I suggest leading by example to affect change, as there already is a community looking to create the change we are seeking. The society must change to accomodate the community only if the community demands it through action. It therefore is the inaction of the people that prevents the change not the society's reluctance to accept it.

I understand your frustration with those who don't agree with your viewpoint especially since it is the one backed by scientific evidence and study. I am trying to understand the type of thinking that keeps people from accepting unconventional beliefs by reading the book linked in my sig. I'm hoping if I can understand why they think the way they do then I can understand how I can at least elicit flexibility and cooperation from them instead of hostility and rigidness.

I do believe though one person really does make ALL the difference as it takes only one to motivate many to action and it is the action that will institute change. Therefore, IMHO, it is the action of one that actually initiates the change and it is the action of many that instill it and it is society's acceptance that legitimizes it. Change does not have to be legitimized for it to happen. By the time society gets around to legitimizing change the change has already taken place. Of course I could be wrong, I don't study these things for a living just as a hobby. ;)

Blessed be~

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

yeah, that's what im saying... it takes one person to start the events into motion, but without a community to back it, it can never stand a chance to stick in the long run, and society will ignore it.

but i am not the people person needed to initiate change, fuck i can barely convey my thoughts to another person. im not a people person, just a guy who's fed up with waiting for change while no one is doing anything. "what can i do" is the ominous question looming over my head at all hours. and let's face it, as nothing more than a single voice on the internet, there really isnt much i CAN do. im not the people person type to go out and gather signatures for a petition, or meet random people i dont know and spread the word, so to speak. i just dont do the whole talking to people i dont know thing very well. im not exactly good at talking to people i DO know.

hell, if i brought the need for action up with a group of friends who like to toke up (hell, idont know anyone who doesnt) i would be argued against and even incite angry responses. i dont want to risk losing the public opinion on this... but at the same time, i cannot quiet my concerns. so the only placey have to speak without interrupting the goal is to rant and bitch online till a more public oriented stoner picks up the torch... :P


all i can really do is try to make people look at the facts enough till their blood boils as hot as mine.

[PlainJane]

... Great Britten ...

Where is that? :p

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Where is that? :p


geeze what's with the pop quizz? dont ask me toughies like that if i havent studied!


UMMM isnt it right inbetween the borders of England and India? :D:stoned:

[TurnyBright]

It's a novel idea, but it would be more likely to help the species of bird more than the species of plant. Hempseed is already a major ingredient in birdseed mixes and such, though if they're imported to the US they DO have to be sterile. The point is that the seeds are ind=credibly nutritious, not just for birds, but for people.

I want to husk a thousand seeds and make hemp-porridge, and live longer for it.


But a cool way to enact your plan would be to just rent a plane and dump 20 tons of seeds on every open field in midwestern US. The only way to destroy all the pot would be to flamethrower or napalm that stuff and then enviro-groups would crucify the drug czar. The resulting pollution from all the burnings would triple the greenhouse effect and melt the ice caps, forcing a worldwide economic revolution (and probably a few other kinds) and history would be made! All because of some people who decided to get stuff done.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

yeah, me and my old buddy would dream on about dumpping thousands of pounds of cannabis seeds across the continent by plane... haha it's just a shame neither of us ever had the cash for a plane, or the seeds for that matter... lol


where are all the rich-out-the-ass cannabis supporters these days?! lol:D


though i wouldnt want to instigate any MORE ecological disasters... that one might actually benefit us... heh... but i sure would hate to see them burn that much land...! be sure if they did, i'd do everything i could to interfere! lol