help required saving a rare hippy strain eye

[groovybob]

Hello good people

recently given 3 ageing mother plants, one widow, one unidentifyable and one old hippy strain called eye(mindblowing). Its the palm tree like plant in the pics. The eye is the only reason i took them in as you cant buy this strain and its amazing, crystals coat the buds like sand.

Watering them with fawcet water ph'd correctly

i suspect the previous owner nuted them to death so i have started to flush the system. with the plants came a load of nutes like rhizonic, oxyplus, vita link grow a and b, fulvic, formulex, sensizyme, but not a clue what to use. Looking at the plants i suspect they are lacking in something but dont know what...presuming its not in the lot i got unless they were fed to death,,,

comments please

Jeff:rastasmoke:

any ideas??? pictures attached...they are at 90 degrees for some reason...sorry

big love and bass bins

Jeff:):hippy:

[hudson88]

Welcome to cann.com bob and congrats on getting some pretty good looking plants!

The last pic looks like it needs a bit more nitrogen to me, but the others i'm really not sure about and it makes it harder to diagnose a problem as you've only just got them and don't know exactly what they've been getting fed.

Can i suggest you put this question in the plant problems section, you'll probably get more responses as it might not get noticed in here, there's some charts and info there, a form too if you can answer as much of it as you know, it helps everyone get a better understanding of the plants environment so they can give you a better answer. I'm sure one of the experts will be along to help soon.

Good luck!

[groovybob]

Hello good people

recently given 3 ageing mother plants, one widow, one unidentifyable and one old hippy strain called eye(mindblowing). Its the palm tree like plant in the pics. The eye is the only reason i took them in as you cant buy this strain and its amazing, crystals coat the buds like sand.

Watering them with fawcet water ph'd correctly

i suspect the previous owner nuted them to death so i have started to flush the system. with the plants came a load of nutes like rhizonic, oxyplus, vita link grow a and b, fulvic, formulex, sensizyme, but not a clue what to use; suspect these old mothers have had the lot knowing the person that had them. Looking at the plants i suspect they are lacking in something but dont know what...presuming its not in the lot i got unless they were fed to death,,,

comments please

Jeff

any ideas??? pictures attached...they are at 90 degrees for some reason...sorry

big love and bass bins

Jeff

[groovybob]

thankyou for your warm welcome..

comments duly noted and have posted in the plant problems section as suggested...

thanks again..

jeff:rastasmoke:

[stinkyattic]

Those plants are WAY too big for those pots.
Get them in 3 gallon pots of nice LIGHT soil with plenty of extra perlite. A mix of 2-3 sacks MG organic choice plus 1 sack perlite is okay if home depot is your only option, but look at garden centers for other types of potting soils.
Don't use pots that have built-in drip trays. In fact, drill EXTRA drain holes.
The yellow low leaves are probably a combination of N deficiency or lockout from not enough fertilizer and /or not enough root space (I'm voting for root space), and not enough light.
I'll stick this over in problems and merge them.

[rhizome]

but seriously, she's absolutely right- what those plants are lacking is dirt.

If you really do have an old heirloom strain, I'd think about getting some cuttings rooted up, so that losing any one plant is no big thing- ya gotta lotta wood there.

[groovybob]

thanks peeops...of to try and get big pots....

a question? am i not better getting these old mothers better before cuttings? dont want to photocopy anything too stressed, was thinking of new mothers anyway as these are too damn big..

peace

[psteve]

I want to know more about this strain.
We have a strain here in Oregon called "I-Strain". I wonder if it's the same?

[stinkyattic]

Taking clones now isn't going to make the clones crappy for evermore; if they survive at all they should be able to recover.
Re-pot promptly, bring that plant back to health, and then take cuts.
With a 2-3 foot plant, you have no choice but to run HID lights. Light penetration with flouros is less than a foot. MH in veg (that is what you have right now) and HPS for flower.
Read the link in my sig, then read it again. It will point you in the right direction.

[groovybob]

hi all

thanks for all the sweet advice. I am a bit gutted i have to go away tomorrow to see the very old's so panicking about getting a dripper system sorted before i have to leave tomorrow: Till Tuesday; repotting and cloning will just have to wait.

Was thinking cloning most of the top, under the flouro, and then throwing the battered mothers under a 250watt HPS in fresh 3-4 gall buckets with lots of fluffy perlite and vermiculite. Call it curiosity's sake; epsom salts...

A further questions if i may?

Watering?? how much a day for these old ones??? daily quantity per plant please save me working it out cos im on the clock.

RESPECT

Jeff:rastasmoke:

[stinkyattic]

You know that re-potting now will get you off the hook for a dripper system?
Re-pot into 3 gallon pails, give a good soak, and they will be fine for the weekend.

NO epsom salts in the soil!!! nonononono!

Watering- when the pot feels light. Let the soil dry out fairly well between waterings. There's no number; it depends on temps, plant size, lightness of soil, intensity of light, and n other factors.

[groovybob]

hey steve

this strain comes from Hippies in Wales but i am well interested myself..

one thing i was thinking of doing with the mothers is take loadsa cuttings, flower them off and if the eye was male let it pop. Should get a ton of seeds from my beasts...if it happens will post u some u can try yourself....comments please?

going to re-pot tomorrow in nice big builders buckets as suggested but bought all the dripper kit and some timber for my tray frame so going to go for it anyway...maybe need a 7 day timer then to water periodically... water in the dark is that ok?

look i know they are technically weeds and can take some abuse but got a hol coming up in august for 8 days so it needs sortin.

when i re-pot should you remove any/some roots or just re-place and pack around??? only was thinking of epson salts because dude said a nitro deficiency was favourite and money my end well tight. alternative is a foliage spray of formulex, seems high in nitro and want to do something for my yellow baby before i go away

Thanks so much for all the prompt responses, well appreciated this end..

peace x:rastasmoke:

[hudson88]

Nooo don't remove any of the roots when you repot, it's better to repot when the soil is pretty dry, it'll come out in a clump, you just need to put it in it's new pot and add more soil, try to be as careful as possible so as not to stress it too much.

Epsom salts is used to cure magnesium and sulphur deficiencies not nitrogen, any cannabis grow fert should fix the prob, i'm sure formulex will work too, but i think that's usually used for young plants rather than mums.

Good luck

[FakeBoobsRule]

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