my first grow, need some help along the road, KB (merged with first sour diesel log)

[smokeybear420]

ok so im a new grower but im decently knowledgeable in it. Im getting 10 seeds of sour d today, and i got a pretty good spot to grow at. its a spot right next to a good sized creak and the soil looks pretty nutritious.

i was there around 9:30- 10:30 and it got a good amount of morning sun. the spot is like filled with alot of vines and tall shrubbish plants, and isnt that noticable. but im a little hazy on knowing when to harvest and the actual process of harvesting and drying, if someone could explain that to me very detailed that i would apreciate it greatly.

and if theres any steps i should take for i because its sour d or any other ways to care for it, that will be very helpful also .

[stinkyattic]

It's almost July. I don't know where you live, but it is really late to be starting an outdoor crop. Most growers start their seeds in spring, just before last frost, and then have them put outdoors as small but healthy plants by the end of June. You may not have time to do a proper crop this year.

Also, Sour Diesels are pretty dense, adn if you grow in a damp area, make absolutely sure they get good breezes and morning sun.

[Shovelhandle]

Lot of people here growing outdoors check out some people's logs and you'll find lots of questions and answers. There is a page with Growing FAQ (frequently asked questions) too.

Good luck and hope to see good results, Bub.

Shovelhandle

[smokeybear420]

well i live in jersey so the tempatures arent too intense, and im growing right on the coast of the creek so it gets good breeze and sun :P

[allrollsin21]

i thought true Sour D is clone only?

[stinkyattic]

East Coast Sour D is clone-only.
There are a couple seed lines like 'NYCD' that are a close approximation, but in general, the chem family are clone-only and hard to get if you aren't in with the cool kids, lol.

[smokeybear420]

also, how often should i water it and when should harvest time be..?

[stinkyattic]

Read the link in my signature, and the grow log/tutorial stickied at the top of the outdoor section. Sounds like you need some basic information on growing.

Water it in periods of no rainfall, and harvest it when it is ripe.

[smokeybear420]

im not stupid i know what harvesting is but what are the little details i should look for that show when its peak harvesting time?

[allrollsin21]

wow, take a breath, and do the slightest amount of research. Google is your friend. People on this list are happy to help and from this thread, it appears they already have. Lucky you, give thanks.

[smokeybear420]

chill man i did, but theres so many vague descriptions and for different growing situations, they barely just put it out there, so thats why im bringing my question to the forums. 0.0

[allrollsin21]

I'm calm. I would suggest looking at the FAQ forum, which gives a detailed explanation of when to harvest, or the grow guide which is linked in Stinkyattic's signature. Both mentioned above in this thread. They are about as specific as they can be without being there to pour the water. or google some variation of "harvesting cannabis" and you should then be the bearer of lots of knowledge. Best of luck

[Weedhound]

Not someone I'd be helping......does not seem to have a clue what the words "thank you" mean.

[bigjohnson688]

any one can guess but the only way to tell is with a microscope

[stinkyattic]

Chill dude, no one called you stupid, you are just asking REALLY basic questions that are answered all over the place here. Gauging whether a plant needs water is very very basic. Pick up the pot to see if it feels light. If your plant is in the ground, water it if the plant looks even a little wilted, or if there has been no rain for 3-4 days.

[smokeybear420]

so im kinda new at growing, but i got a good outdoor set up wit great sunlight and its near a creak. but im getting the seeds today and then germinating then planting, so im kinda late 0.0

is there anything i need to due differently to grow it due to the lateness? and i have to plant it now, so i need advice how to make this happen

any positive feedback would be greatly appreciated :hippy:

[phatsesh101]

hope ur in cali and u want them to be more indica and should be sprouted by 7-4

[smokeybear420]

im actually in jersey, pretty close to phili

[phatsesh101]

i live in socal so it takes longer for me to get that first frost i can grow out side into november but need to be planted by july unless you can sub light for veg phase to extend it slightly but your plants wont get very big

i some times will flower outside and vegg under lights year round weather permitting

[smokeybear420]

the thing is once they germinate i gotta put them outside, and keep them outside

[smokeybear420]

wilted?

[stinkyattic]

Verb

Infinitive
to wilt

Third person singular
wilts (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wilts)

Simple past
wilted (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wilted)

Past participle
wilted (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wilted)

Present participle
wilting (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wilting)

to wilt (third-person singular simple present wilts (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wilts), present participle wilting (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wilting), simple past and past participle wilted (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wilted))

(intransitive) To droop (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/droop) or become limp (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/limp) and flaccid (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flaccid) (as a dying leaf or flower).
(intransitive) To fatigue (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fatigue); to lose strength (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/strength).
(transitive) To cause to droop (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/droop) or become limp (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/limp) and flaccid (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flaccid) (as a flower).
(transitive) To cause to fatigue (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fatigue); to exhaust (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/exhaust).

[greenatik]

now I have another verb for limp and flaccid :D

[smokeybear420]

i have some pics on my computer of the spot im growing in, but i dont know how to put it in a reply =/

inform me :rastasmoke:

[greenatik]

you need something like 30 or 50 posts before you can upload pictures. youll see a paperclip in your toolbar of the reply box. or a button that says manage attachments underneath the reply box

[smokeybear420]

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=30kam8y&s=3

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=258a54l&s=3

[smokeybear420]

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=258a54l&s=3) (right side of garden)

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=30kam8y&s=3) (left side of garden)

[smokeybear420]

pictures of my little garden i've created ^_^

and don't hate on my garden, it took like 3 hours to clear it out and rake it and shit so be possitive!

[allrollsin21]

just a heads up, while you tell everyone not to hate and to be positive, keep in mind there is not a gram of positivity in one thing you have written in this thread.
your tone is quite demanding...unfortunately my momma didn't teach me how to grow herb, but she taught me manners...:thumbsup:

[camoxnhx]

pictures of my little garden i've created ^_^

and don't hate on my garden, it took like 3 hours to clear it out and rake it and shit so be possitive!

is that a water source in the second pic? and how many plants do you plan on putting out there.. and are you gonna start them indoors or are you just goning to put them outdoors and let it run its course?

[smokeybear420]

ok so its time for my first grow :D

I've got about 25 kb seeds, but im germinating 9 at the moment. Ive got them in a damp paper towel which is inside of a large bottle im keeping in my closet. and ive got a couple options i can do with it when i plant.

1st: I've made a little garden spot which is pretty secretive. it gets great morning sun and gets a good breeze, and has decent soil. i have 2 pics of them:

off to the left side(next too creak): garden left Pictures, garden left Images, garden left Photos, garden left Videos - Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ix9qav&s=3)

off to the right side:
garden right Pictures, garden right Images, garden right Photos, garden right Videos - Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jpk6fn&s=3)


I can plant them straight into the dirt or i could bring some pot soil i have and put that into the dirt there.

2nd: i could wait until the germination is complete, then put the seedlings into small cups filled with planting soil, after that i could transport them into the garden.

3rd: i could totally forget about the spot and plant in some buckets filled with potting soil after germinated

(option a: first put in cups while sprouting then transfer)
(option b: put straight into the pots after germinated)

I also have miracle gro plant food, put i dont have the sprayer to hook up to the hose :mad:

so if anyone can help me out with how to use the plant food that would be extra helpful :pimp:

Also i have a picture of the germinating seeds, about 13 hours or so into germination:

kb seeds Pictures, kb seeds Images, kb seeds Photos, kb seeds Videos - Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dw9u2u&s=3)

i will keep posting to update you guys on how my grow is goin :thumbsup:

[smokeybear420]

im germing inside and as seedlings theyre going to be in small cups with pot soil

[smokeybear420]

ya im planting next to a running creek so theres no hastle of lugging water back and fourth

[smokeybear420]

and when i say i need help along the road, i mean reply to the topic and help me out :P

[killerweed420]

I would start them under flouros for atleast 2 weeks in the house and then transplant them. Depending on where you live it maybe a little late in the season for them to mature outside.
Just get some good potting soil,dig a hole, put the potting soil in the hole and plant.

[smokeybear420]

well im gonna grow them in like cups with holes on the bottow of them for draining, and put some good pot soil in there, and ill find a place to put them, but should seedlings get a lot of light of a little light?

[stinkyattic]

should seedlings get a lot of light of a little light?http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/127522-simple-noob-instructions-growin-da-dankness.html

^^^read that^^^
Seedlings need a lot of light, as much as you can give them without burning them or drying them out.

[smokeybear420]

i cant bring them to my garden by the creek, that gets over 12hrs of sunlight daily, and great morning sun

[smokeybear420]

also i have some miracle gro plant food, should i add that to the water i give them or no?

[stinkyattic]

This is why you should stick to one thread for all your questions. I already answered that somewhere else. You NEED to read the manual I linked. All that stuff is explained. As much as we can give plenty of help with specific problems, there's only so much time we have to hold your hand, especially if you can't make the effort to search for answers yourself.

NO fertilizer for seedlings less than 5 nodes old.

[AmericanPsycho]

:wtf: Interesting thread...I'm thoroughly confused on what you are trying to accomplish, smokeybear420. You have missed the outdoor season, if you insist on growing you should focus on an indoor grow.

Whatever you decide I hope it works out. :thumbsup:

[smokeybear420]

ya i know i missed it but i can only grow outdoors, and everyone knows cannabis is a survivor :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

It may be a survivor but it can't survive being frozen. Save your seeds. Don't pop the good ones this year. Use bagseed, since the whole thing is moot and you won't get a harvest either way, and at least you won't waste something you paid for. Chalk this season up to experience. You don't have a nice place in your house, like a closet or cellar, to grow?

[smokeybear420]

umm ya but i dont have the money or the knowladge of how to grow indoors, all the indoor growing guides are all complicated and i need it to be somewhat simple, and it cant be huge because im in my moms house =/

[smokeybear420]

and it wont be frozen, im in jersey and theres pretty mild tempatures at the moment, and good rain every now and then

[stinkyattic]

You have winter in Jersey. It starts in November, with frosts earlier. Also, when you go back to school in fall, will you be able to check on your plants? Assuming they are even sexually mature by August 1st (they won't be) and start flowering on time (they won't), unless you know for a fact that you are running a 7-8 week TOPS strain, you're going to run up against freezing weather. How old are you anyway?

[greenatik]

yo stinky, think its too late to start out in cali? we have pretty fair temps until december with little rain

[stinkyattic]

Cali is a totally different animal. You are probably fine to start out now. But hey... you're in Cali... start with CLONES!!! :D

[greenatik]

yes yes, tis was the plan :D about 20... how big will they get, considering they do mature fully

[killfrenzi]

yes yes, tis was the plan :D about 20... how big will they get, considering they do mature fully

That depends on starin... If yo have a predomonant indica then your chances of a tall plant are slim. Most indicas grow short and bushy. One of the easiest ways to tell if you have indica strain is to look at the leafs, if they have really fat fingers then they are most likely to be a dominant "indica" strain. The skinnier the finger the more "sativa" your plant has.

I would suspect if they are Sativa, that they wont get any taller then 6 feet fully mature outdoors. Inside i would say around 5' and if they are Indica 5' max outdorrs and up to 5' indoors, jus depends on how you train them.

[smokeybear420]

ill be able to check it durring school dont worry, and the suns got pretty strong rays getting through the ozone this year and im 99% sure there will be a late frost because i know my state :P

[smokeybear420]

its indica dominant btw

[AmericanPsycho]

umm ya but i dont have the money or the knowladge of how to grow indoors, all the indoor growing guides are all complicated and i need it to be somewhat simple, and it cant be huge because im in my moms house =/

Grow books are not really that complex. Just stick to the basics; soil, nutes and light and you'll be ok.

You probably shouldn't be growing indoors or outdoors if it's on your mothers property without her knowledge. I agree with the Can.com policy which discourages this type of behavior but on the other hand I'm being a bit of a hypocrite here because I grew on my dads property when I was a kid and really no matter how old you are, growing marijuana in the U.S. is illegal. You are going to do what you want but just stop and consider the possible negative consequences before taking this/these grow(s) any further. After an evaluation on this matter ask yourself "Is it really worth it, do the positives outweigh the negatives?"

Have a good one :jointsmile: