"WE" "The Culture" "US" The Black Movement

[illnillinois]

I am SO sick of hearing all the BS about this.
A Black Caucus, The black state of the Union. I mean WTF!!!
Why is their "sub groups" Where is the Hispanic State of the Union, maybe the White Caucus!!

I heard someone (a black women) on Showbiz Tonight, saying IMUS has no right to talk about BLACK issues. WTF!!!

ARE WE NOT ONE PEOPLE!!!


Anyone else sick of the double standards or the "off" topic.

[illnillinois]

Dont even think of flamming.

I moved to Illinois to be near CULTURE from ALL people.

[illnillinois]

i saw a clip for a show called "Black in America" A story of success, struggle, pain and pride.

REALLY, is this needed?

[psteve]

Just don't diss my FUBU's!

[IrieIrie]

it's interesting that theres many different races of people all around the world who all look different, who speak different languages, have different beliefs, but at the same time can still procreate with one another. wouldn't that imply that we were all meant to get along and live peacefully with one another without any consideration of skin color or anything like that?

[illnillinois]

I just feel it divides us more"as americans" when Black people distance themselves and treat others like "their" culture, history, life style, is any different from struggles EVERYONE goes thru.. and needs to stuffed in your face for a WHOLE MONTH.

The thing i HATE the most is when I read or hear "WHITE AMERICA and BLACK AMERICA.

[IrieIrie]

agreed dude. sadly, it'll always be like this as long as the human race is around.

[Esoteric416]

Seriously, the very existence of "Black History Month" is an insult. Its like saying that the black people in this country have only contributed a months worth of history to the world. We can sum up all the hostory of the African Americans in one month (and its the shortest of all the months too). There should be no black history, no white history, no asian history, and no hispanic history, there should just be history. All this seperation only serves to drive a spike in our conciousness telling us on almost a subliminal level that YES we are different people and maybe we shouldnt mingle.
I think IrieIrie makes a good basic point with the procreation thing, if you can copulate with someone and produce offspring that means you are of the same species, fucking end of story.

I feel like this pisses me off (a middle class white boy) more that it bothers most black people (or any other ethnicity for that matter). I asked some black kids on the bus one February if they felt black history month was an insult, and they didnt seem to get what i was saying, i guess they never thought about it.

I kinda feel like Im the guy who "doth protest too much", but i'm really not some kind of closet racist I just cant abide a double standard. Someone post about weather or not its fair to lable girls "slutty" and ill freak out in the same way.
Peace all (and i do mean ALL). :D

[stinkyattic]

While it's important to take pride in your culture and history, I think that we SHOULD as a nation focus on the concept of one people with one common goal, which is to live and raise our children healthy and happy. This shouldn't be a race issue.

[Dutch Pimp]

I agree with all of the above comments ...:thumbsup:

[illnillinois]

While it's important to take pride in your culture and history, I think that we SHOULD as a nation focus on the concept of one people with one common goal, which is to live and raise our children healthy and happy. This shouldn't be a race issue.

I agree with everyone one that has left their :twocents:
I also do think a subject, matter, problem or any other issue. Should be able to be discussed without "fearing" like its a "race" issuse and cant be talked about, Not to upset anyone..

One planet, one species, one goal.

[killerweed420]

It would be nice if we focused on what we have in common versus what our differences are.
I don't think the black community realizes they are setting our relationships back with all this black america pageant and black cacaus stuff. There will always be rascism on both sides. But I've always believed the rascists are just avery vocal very small minority. Besides it looks like most of the rascism is being directed at the hispanic community now.lol

[illnillinois]

Not trying to :beatdeadhorse:

What gets me is some of the commercials.
LIKE
The ones about the Inventions from "Black Minds" and a black mind is a terrible thing to waste
Isn't ANY MIND of ANY RACE, COLOR, CREED a terrible thing to waste.


And The commercial of the public bus where a crowd of people get on and then you have a black young male getting up and giving his seat to a black woman..

Can it not be A Hispanic male or female getting up for a Japanese person, or a ANY combination of races.

[Shovelhandle]

I se it differnt where Us is the oppressed hard working people of all colors and them are the wanna-be kings and all others with that mind set in the political arena. Luckily, there are getting to be some of Us in the "system" Keep on, um....something, something????

YES!

Shov <G>

[Shovelhandle]

What gets me is some of the commercials.
LIKE
The ones about the Inventions from "Black Minds" and a black mind is a terrible thing to waste
Isn't ANY MIND of ANY RACE, COLOR, CREED a terrible thing to waste.

I can see that...people with a budget and an agenda to improve the attitude and mind set of black peeps are advancing their cause. It's really all god, ya know? You know that your just as good as them, but maybe there's no need to advance your people's cause. Hmm?

No disrespect given or taken. thanks,

Shob

[Shovelhandle]

The insult is (to me...) that the PC Police won't let Italian, Irish, Polish or any History Month go by without a political brandstand. EVERYONE is entitled to a History Month. If black (or blue, green) people want to celebrate and promote their culture, it's their dough. It's all Goood (extra OO for the missing ones).

Shov, lover, not a warrior

[Shovelhandle]

agree with everyone one that has left their
I also do think a subject, matter, problem or any other issue. Should be able to be discussed without "fearing" like its a "race" issuse and cant be talked about, Not to upset anyone..

One planet, one species, one goal.


Ditto, I agree wit dat!

Shov

[IrieIrie]

it's sad the mojority of people will never think like this or even try to make a difference. the best we can do is question everything seeking the truth and do whatever we are capable of in life, and live a damn good one!

[maxsuperdanks]

I'm against black people using the term African American, to describe themselves. Unless they're directly from Africa.


Why? Because they're fucking Americans, they were born here, their parents were born here, their grandparents were born here.


If that were the fucking case I'm going to have every "African American" call me a Sicilian, French, German, Polish, Danish, Norwegian, Bohemian, Spanish and Irish American.


They can suck my dick to be quite blunt.



Racial denominations just cause barriers and bullshit.

[maxsuperdanks]

If a black person ever says my people made their people slaves.


I'll be quite upset, because well. All of Europe, and black people, fucked my island of Sicily over more times than ANYONE ever got fucked.

[Chong Version 2.0]

My tinfoil hat might be on a bit tight but I think this race baiting is all just a mass distraction. It's just like the left vs. the right, atheists vs. Christians, terrorism, etc. The people in power are just trying to take your mind off of real issues such as the swindling of the American populace, war profiteering, oil profiteering, and corporatism.

[GreenLeaf420]

Seriously, the very existence of "Black History Month" is an insult. Its like saying that the black people in this country have only contributed a months worth of history to the world. We can sum up all the history of the African Americans in one month (and its the shortest of all the months too). There should be no black history, no white history, no Asian history, and no Hispanic history, there should just be history. All this separation only serves to drive a spike in our consciousness telling us on almost a subliminal level that YES we are different people and maybe we shouldn't mingle.
I think IrieIrie makes a good basic point with the procreation thing, if you can copulate with someone and produce offspring that means you are of the same species, fucking end of story.

I feel like this pisses me off (a middle class white boy) more that it bothers most black people (or any other ethnicity for that matter). I asked some black kids on the bus one February if they felt black history month was an insult, and they didn't seem to get what i was saying, i guess they never thought about it.

I kinda feel like I'm the guy who "doth protest too much", but I'm really not some kind of closet racist I just cant abide a double standard. Someone post about weather or not its fair to label girls "slutty" and ill freak out in the same way.
Peace all (and i do mean ALL). :D


Black History Month? WHAT I live in NYC the melting pot WTF let's have a white History month and you will have all brother AL Sharpton and his followers on the Stairs of what ever white owned business. Come on man the FEDS have him selling Pablo Escobars Shit. I know He is a good guy right. BS he is a fake trouble maker.

Unfortunately white Americans will be the minority in the years to come. Imagine if we had a white only Chanel. Lets say like channel 9 here is NY. There is not one white guy on any of those shows except if they want to make fun of him.....

There was a smart GREAT BLACK MAN that once said "When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!" "

That day has come and gone were any man no matter race or creed can go anywere w/o ??????But things are still not good enough for Right Wing Black politicians if you want to consider Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson Politicians.

Yes I'm a white American who grew up in a melting pot and we all walked the same halls played the same games no BS. What living together in PEACE is not good enough? Well then go back to were you came from and if it's here shut your mouths and stop the trouble especially on the 4th of July to have someone knock this great country...

HAPPY 4TH TO ALL CANCOMM USERS BLACK OR WHITE!!!!!!

[xcrispi]

As long as ppl. continue to use the words BLACK , WHITE , etc...
There will continue to be SEGRAGATION . :(

Crispi :stoned:

[GreenLeaf420]

From the way it appears Other races then White wanted to be all equal....

NOW THAT IT HAS HAPPENED THEY WANT THERE OWN TV CHANNELS RADIO NATIONAL ANTHEM ECT.....

They are creating segregation again......

[illnillinois]

From the way it appears Other races then White wanted to be all equal....

NOW THAT IT HAS HAPPENED THEY WANT THERE OWN TV CHANNELS RADIO NATIONAL ANTHEM ECT.....

They are creating segregation again......

you said it, they are doing it to themselves..
what next, blame all races because we sat back and let them fuck themselves over..

[dragonrider]

I think the point of something like Black History Month or special programs on TV related to black history is to draw attention to American historial contributions of black poeple that might be ignored in mainstream history. I'm not sure what these shows are about exactly, because I haven't watched them. But if anybody here did watch them, were the people and events they talked about something that you already knew about from mainstream history? Or was it something that you had never heard of before? If it was something you had never heard of before, then maybe it had some value.

Some of this promotion of a single cultural perspective IS divisive and not helpful. For example, I don't think blacks need their own National Anthem --- it's one nation and needs only one anthem.

But I can understand the black history thing. It's fine to say we are all one nation and we have one history, but if I was part of a subgroup who felt the contributions of my group were ignored in mainstream history, I would think someone was blowing a bunch of smoke up my ass with the "one culture" thing, and I would want my history known.

The idea of a White History Month is absurd because virtually all of our history is about white people and their history. How would White History Month be any different from the history taught every single day, month after month?

[GoinBak2Cali]

ill you still thinkin of movin to norcal??

[illnillinois]

ill you still thinkin of movin to norcal??

im stuck right now, my life is swirling around a big toilet bowl, my boss hates me, and wont approve a transfer, and i am WAY losing the battle in being a husband and father..
If i do, i might be crashing in my car in a walmart parking lot for awhile.. then get a GYM membership for a shower/ that or a truck stop :p