attention conspiracy people

[amsterdam]

you know who you are!i want you to google "popular mechanics conspiracy 9/11"and then read it.this is a fact based magazine that has been around a hundred years,not a blurry picture slide show with mis-quotes.hopefully this will help in your struggle.i know it isn't prisonplanet,or jackherer but real information from expert's around the world.no moulder and scully at these sight's.i tell you this because i feel bad you are wasting so much time believing this crap from bizarre web-site's.i'm all for smoking bud's but when it causes dementia and paranoia it might be time to step back and take a breather.

[mr chinnery]

Right on...I wonder how many of these dumb-shits will actually read it though.

[amsterdam]

my guess would be none.they prefer to get their reliable info from prisonplanet and michael moore!LOL!

[pisshead]

not a michael moore fan, his 911 crap was weak.

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm#6

the pop. mechanics bs has itself been debunked.

and i still haven't gotten a reply on this either, from the conspiracy theorists who buy the whole 19 freedom hating evil muslim hijackers who couldn't fly according to their instructors commanded by a guy in a cave...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

videos of the owner of the building of the entire WTC complex. got that? not alex jones, not prisonplanet, the owner of the building in a documentary you haven't seen and will never see, because you're an ignorant fool. and video of the construction manager of the WTC complex as well...information that throroughly debunks your Hearst publication fabrication.

no explanation for the magical collapse of building 7 from the 19 freedom hating hijacker theorists?

alex jones was even interviewed for your popular mechanics whitewash...they wouldn't let him discuss obvious indications of explosives, or the firefighters who saw the charges going down the building and talked about it right afterwards, the seismograph reports...and a lot more...

but who needs independent investigative journalism when you have pop. mechanics to tell you what the 'theories' are (and they get them wrong too), and then debunk the straws...

[amsterdam]

popular mechanic info came out a week ago?the instructor's said they couldn't take off or land.it really dosen't take a genius to steer an aircraft.my grandfather's friend buy's,restores,and fly's aircraft.i do not have a clue how to take off and land,but have flown an aircraft for over an hour with absolutely no previous training at all.these were smart people who did train to fly aircraft.

[nomorenarcs]

debunking popular mechanics lol. Man you full of your self pisshead.



conspiracy theorists who buy the whole 19 freedom hating evil muslim hijackers


They arent "freedom hating muslims". You can believe its muslims and not buy the reasons bush gives for them doing it. They wanted to drag america into a war in the mid east. And america did as they wanted.
Alex jones is a fruitcake

[amsterdam]

pisshead is way more informed by the people at popular mechanic's let me tell ya.as for the war,love it or hate it,we are winning and that's that.sure it is ugly and has alot bad shit happening but i think a person would be a fool not to see what is happening all over the middle east.

[Nullific]

i know it isn't prisonplanet,or jackherer but real information from expert's around the world.
I read some of the popular mechanics shit, looks nice I don't very much care for what happened on 9/11 but rather the circumstances around it and where it has taken us.
Anyways, if you had bothered to go to jackherer.com or read any of 'The Emperor Wears No Clothes' you would have learned very quickly that :eek: it has nothing to do with 9/11 or WTC at all!
I gave it as an example of how conspiracies DO happen, this is one you may be interested in that involves our own government and mainstream media beginning in the 1900s to make hemp illegal. The evidence for this comes from :eek: POPULAR MECHANICS 1938! AND the US Governments own archives as well as popular encyclopedias and other reliable source materials all included in the paper edition of the book AND :eek: there is a $100,000 reward for anybody that can prove this CONSPIRACY never happened AND :eek: not a single person has tried.
So how is this relevant today?
The government, the media, society has LIED in the past just under a century ago...they have lied in the recent past just 30 years ago what is to say the government and mainstream media isn't lying today?

[amsterdam]

i did look,it is a tragedy that a plant like marijuana and hemp are illegal,TRAGEDY!I think it is hard to communicate correctly online but for the record i in no way think people who disagree with me are stupid in any way.we just have different opinions,nothing more.i think marijuana will be legal when the younger generation's get into positions of power.for the record i am a republican who is pro-choice(i think abortion is disgusting,but if a women can live with that whatever),don't care about gay marriage,people deserve happiness,but i know america is the greatest nation on the face of the earth.i love this country!

[pisshead]

"The government, the media, society has LIED in the past just under a century ago..."

how dare you say that! government has never lied about anything! you're just a nutjob conspiracy theorist! governments are honest and loving and caring and only have your well being in mind, you ungrateful delusional crazy!

i can't think of one example of government doing something bad to anyone ever in the history of the world. it just doesn't happen, not here.

sure they've used the drug war to treat kids in school like felons and they've used it to destroy the constitution (like they're using the war on 'terror')...

you anti-american paranoid communist piece of filth. the government loves you. and they're going to force you to accept their freedom, whether you want it or not.

[amsterdam]

i suppose there is no "war on terror"?

[pisshead]

there's a war on something alright...

i'd call it the endgame of the war on freedom.

[amsterdam]

what freedom's have you lost?

[pisshead]

me personally, none. but that doesn't mean it's not happening to other people all around the country. i read papers from all around the country, the patriot act is being used to go after people.

homeland security even visited some small toy store in the middle of nowhere because some lady was selling knockoff rubix cubes, and they were there because that posed a threat to national security, because it might have been copyright infringement, which it wasn't. is this what homeland security is about? is she a terrorist?

i know, until your house or land is stolen, until you're rounded because you're protesting, or you're faced with no protest zones or local martial law or maced in the face or tasered unjustly, everything's fine.

the patriot act, which i've read, literally destroys the constitution. so even if we have an angelic, loving government now, why are we putting the mechanisms in place for some despot to get elected and become a dictator...we are not a constitutional republic anymore.


Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, an eye witness account by a prisoner of Russia's gulags:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at handâ?¦The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"

[amsterdam]

that's what the patriot act is for,'TO GO AFTER PEOPLE."alot of people really get their panties in a wad over the silliest stuff.

it's like that rumor about the govt. watching libraries.they aren't.one change in the way our government operates and people automatically start fearing the gestapo or 'BIG BROTHER"

there has been alot of huge changes in this country and around the world in the past couple of year's.people fear change.then they protest.the people who are so quick to use the nazi comparisson,usually the same people that have never expierienced evil.

seriously,alot of people run their mouth's about america being some evil power in the world,they have no clue what evil really look's like.from the safety of their nice homes in portland Oregon,maybe san francisco.i find it hillarious.

[Nullific]

amsterdam, have you read the Patriot act?
It is no rumor, LEO can view your library, medical and credit card records without anyone having to know about it.
http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&c=207
It extends the legal definition of a 'terroist' and 'chemical and biological weapons' so that crimes that would have originally resulted in a few months or years in prison could get you life.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/july-dec03/patriotact_9-17_printout.html
I would show you more but for some reason I am unable to get on CNN.com

[amsterdam]

i have read quite a bit of it,but no,not the entire thing.i know you will think i am crazy,but it dosen't bother me to much.and to be somewhat fair here,the aclu does take on noble causes but i think they don't look out for our country at all.i am not at all saying they are bad people but they fight for alot of stupid causes.i mean seriously,suing Rummy?i have read alot of the going's on at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib and i don't think any of that is torture.we should be allowed to do alot more.

[mr chinnery]

there is a $100,000 reward for anybody that can prove this CONSPIRACY never happened

Well that proves nothing, it's like offering an award for disproving the alleged existence of God. It won't work because under Popperian science these are very weak theories, i.e. are irrefutable. That is, whatever claim is made against the conspiracy/religion, it can be argued against without logic. Occam's Razor also states that the simplest explanation is usually the right one. Conspiracies are for gullible fools with empty lives and a distrust of reality.

[amsterdam]

thank you mr.chinnery,i thought i was the only somewhat logical person here!

[mr chinnery]

In the words of Michael Jackson, "you are not alone".

[newactivist]

Sorry Amsterdam and Chinnery, but we cannot allow our government to do things like this. It goes back to the expression "if you give them an inch they will take a mile one inch at a time". Why do you think we have democracy and communism in the first place? It was to get out from under dictatorships. If you give them the power they will use it, usually to their own benefit and to your detriment. We have already gone farther from what our founders intended for a central government. Maybe you trust the people in government and you have to to an extent but trust their honesty? Only a fool believe a politition's word.

As for anyone that thinks Jack's facts are off I massively disagree. I've spent the last 3 months since I ran into his site fact checking and he seems to be spot on. Also, can you think of a bigger motive than $60 billion dollars a year in energy market? I am not normally a "conspiracy nut" as you put it but in this case I believe there may be some meat to this.

As for "Well that proves nothing, it's like offering an award for disproving the alleged existence of God" what does that have to do with basic chemistry from a textbook? X amount of industrial hemp = Y amount of biodiesel/ethanol. Have you even read his site or did you walk in with an attitude and blinders?

[Psycho4Bud]

I've done 9-11 posts from popular mechanics......peoples response in here was that it was a "Government run paper". Face it Amsterdam, Pissplanet.com is the only truth!:rolleyes:

[amsterdam]

I know. Pisshead has really lost her touch lately don't you think. Her posts are just funny now with no sense of reality anywhere in them. Oh well. Just like Bluecat,( who really was a 19 year old who couldnt get anyone to listen unless she said she had a son in the war) another victim of BDSD bites the dust.