A small question about my vape

[akiraglasgow]

Currently I'm using the vapir one vape with the water tool you get. The question is about the use of it:

I'm setting the fan to the lowest setting and putting the temp to 204. By drawing from the water tool it's quite cool when I inhale it and when I am inhaling the temp hovers around 210 to 230 at most. Admittedly if it does reach the high temp it does start burning and I calm down a bit :D I do get really fucked doing it this way so I don't really know why I'm asking this but is what I'm doing, sound about right to everyone?:wtf:

The temps are in *C, sorry if I'm talking gibberish but I'm really smoked :jointsmile:

Thanks,

[vapefiend]

200 C is hotter than you need. Lots of toxins at that temp. 230 is near combustion. You might as well smoke. Don't know how accurate your display readouts are, but if your leftovers are black the reading may be pretty accurate. If I were you I'd leave the water tool off (to avoid the variable) and find your lower vaping range. Even with a display you want to find the lowest point where you get good vapor, as well as the burn point (black remains-not bursting into flame), and use a happy medium temp.

[freetoburn996]

Hey, I'm using a Vapir One as well. The most helpful advice I've ever heard is take a look at your leftovers. I've been going from 180 to 190 and then all the way up to 204. The herb that comes out looks mildly green with a slight yellow at 180, light brown/yellow at 190, and dark brown with a little yellow at 204. I'm getting used to it all too, but vapefiend is right about the toxins. I'm thinking I'm going to stick with 190, cause that gets me floating without all the throat irritation from toxins.

[vapefiend]

Hey, I'm using a Vapir One as well. The most helpful advice I've ever heard is take a look at your leftovers. I've been going from 180 to 190 and then all the way up to 204. The herb that comes out looks mildly green with a slight yellow at 180, light brown/yellow at 190, and dark brown with a little yellow at 204. I'm getting used to it all too, but vapefiend is right about the toxins. I'm thinking I'm going to stick with 190, cause that gets me floating without all the throat irritation from toxins.
190 C is a good temp. If any herb is still green afterwards, you might try mixing it up and revaping. Throat irritation is from the dry air. Depending on the vape and the vapor/air ratio, you'll get that to some degree no matter what your vaping temp is.

[daihashi]

I have/had a Voodoo vaporizer....

which is the exact same thing as a Vapir One. As a matter of fact it's just a Vapir One that's been rebranded as Voodoo.

I always found this vaporizer to be extremely inefficient and slow. The temps were never consistent. While 200C is too much for your quality vaporizer.. I found that I had to set it to the max setting of 400F which is like 200-204C in order to efficiently vaporize. Even then there was alot of waste with this product.

So to answer your question, in my own personal opinion with this product, I feel you setting the temperature to the maximum 204C is the correct way to do it.

[vapefiend]

I wondered how accurate a $150 digital vape could be. Inaccurate and inefficient. Thanks for the info.

[t00fatt]

I have been using a friend Vapir One for about two months now. I don't know what version it is as the lettering has been rubbed off and is at least 2 years old. While it is inefficient and wastes some vapor, it still gets the job done pretty well. Would I recommend buying one? not really only b/c an herbalaire is $100 more and worth the extra money.

[freetoburn996]

I wondered how accurate a $150 digital vape could be. Inaccurate and inefficient. Thanks for the info.

Whoa, whoa, whoa... I wouldn't go so far as to call this vape inaccurate and inefficient. It's an excellent alternative to the Volcano. Some of us just don't have 600 dollars to blow on a high-quality vape like that. The Vapir One works magnificently. I've been using much less than ever before and smoking much more than before. It's a matter of getting used to it, two weeks into it and you have a specific temperature and a method down to using it. The temperature fluctuation shouldn't deter you that much from this product unless you're doing scientific experiments or something.

[daihashi]

Whoa, whoa, whoa... I wouldn't go so far as to call this vape inaccurate and inefficient. It's an excellent alternative to the Volcano. Some of us just don't have 600 dollars to blow on a high-quality vape like that. The Vapir One works magnificently. I've been using much less than ever before and smoking much more than before. It's a matter of getting used to it, two weeks into it and you have a specific temperature and a method down to using it. The temperature fluctuation shouldn't deter you that much from this product unless you're doing scientific experiments or something.

I respectfully disagree. I own several vaporizers and this was the worst of the bunch.

I would recommend a vapolution over this thing.

I smoke several grams a day throughout the day. It's not a matter of getting used to it; it's simply the quality of the product. Being that I own a vapolution, Voodoo (vapir air one), herbalaire, Volcano, and a brothers.. and have tested several others through friends. The Vapir Air one was the worst one.

Cost for Cost I would recommend a vapolution over the vapir air one.. and the entire chamber is all glass as opposed to plastic. Making for a nicer smoke.

It is also $150

[t00fatt]

I love the vapir one it gets me fucking ripped! While it does work its still not that great of a vape. The metal coil heating element leaves a bad taste in my mouth, while its not horrible it is noticeable. The plastic case gets extremely hot while vaping, and god knows how many chemicals are seeping out. Air leaks out around the tray that holds the bowl. Also I do believe the temps are inaccurate, I highly doubt it puts out 400F.

[freetoburn996]

Are we talking about the same Vapir One? The new model they put out is the one that I just got and it was rated really well on all the sites I checked out and I'm pretty sure that one of the problems they combatted with the new model was the air leakage problems. Everyone I know who's smoked out of it has loved it.

[daihashi]

Are we talking about the same Vapir One? The new model they put out is the one that I just got and it was rated really well on all the sites I checked out and I'm pretty sure that one of the problems they combatted with the new model was the air leakage problems. Everyone I know who's smoked out of it has loved it.

When was this released? My model was about a year and a half old. Maybe it's time to hit up my local smoke shop and do some window shopping just for curiosity sake. :thumbsup:

[t00fatt]

Like I said the vapir one does work and will put out a few thick bags of vapor. Although it works doesn't mean its a good vaporizer. While it vaporizes good, the materials used are a bit hazardous to your health and counter acts the purpose of vaping. Even the v5.0 has a metal coil heating element, which releases ions when heated, also its case is still made of plastic which seeps out toxic chemicals when heated. It also has a lot of problems with the heating element and the fan craping out on them. The fan on my friend's bearing is shot and takes a second to get up to speed, when normally it is instant. They only come with a 90 day warrenty, and break frequently, not such a great combo. I would recommend anyone invest money they worked for on this vape, unless its free its much more worthwhile to get a different vape.

[boaz]

i've got a vapir one, it seems to work okay but its the only vap i've ever tried. my only complaint, beside the already mentioned somewhat funky toasty taste, is that its kinda loud, full on kinda sounds like a blow dryer :D anyone know if the volcano's or others are less noisy?

[boaz]

^ btw, the lower speeds are fairly quiet. :thumbsup:

[t00fatt]

That's the other problem, it uses a blade fan, not a pump or even a blower fan, which doesn't produce much pressure. When the bag is filling gravity is trying to collapse the bag putting a small amount pressure in the bag. The blade fan can't over come this pressure so it still spins but moves less and less air with more pressure. The herbalaire uses a pump, and I assume the volcano uses a blower fan.

[vapefiend]

I assume the volcano uses a blower fan.The 'cano uses an internal pump.

The Vapir One, IMO, is neither a top rated vape nor is it a toxic waste emitter. The plastic shell doesn't get hot enough to emit toxic chemicals and I don't know where you get your info that "the v5.0 has a metal coil heating element". It uses a "ceramic housed quartz crystal heating element". With it's fan and digital display, and the short 90 day warranty, it's a risky buy for the long term and can't compete quality wise with the herbalAire, but at $100 less it's the best deal for bag use. If you're not going to use bags there are many whip/direct draw vapes that are a better buy.


my only complaint, beside the already mentioned somewhat funky toasty taste, is that its kinda loud, full on kinda sounds like a blow dryer anyone know if the volcano's or others are less noisy?
The herbalAire's pump just emits a low hum. Not noisy at all IMO. The 'cano's not noisy either, but when you can get bag use and direct draw with the herbalAire for less than half the price... and then there's the Extreme with digital display and a little more satisfying direct draw.

[boaz]

^ thank you! great info there.

i think what my vap really needs right now is just better bud. but i'm still working on that . . . :jointsmile:

[donsolo]

I'm going to second the direct draw/whip vape. I prefer my vaporbros knockoff that I got on ebay for under $70. Digital readout, actual temperature display, ceramic heating element and hands-free glass on glass operation.

I think you all spend too much money on vaporizers. The volcano is cool but it's like the Porsche of Vaporizers. What are you compensating for? The non-digital volcano is a headache to use because you tear through a lot of trial-and-error finding your heat setting. At least with these digital guys, you can google it, set it and have fun.

Also, I don't really understand the whole allure of the bag vaporizers. I know the volcano will last 24-48 hours after inflated but it's bulky and where are you going that you can't plug in a vape?

It's really irresponcible to drive while vaping...

[vapefiend]

The non-digital volcano is a headache to use because you tear through a lot of trial-and-error finding your heat setting. Or maybe you could look in the manual and see exactly what temp each mark on the dial corresponds to.

[donsolo]

I'll tell you this, 175c, 180c, 185c and 190c are all completely different highs because different chemicals have different boiling points...

I get your point but digital is infinitely more accurate.

[daihashi]

I'll tell you this, 175c, 180c, 185c and 190c are all completely different highs because different chemicals have different boiling points...

I get your point but digital is infinitely more accurate.

You're misinformed. Having a digital display does not make your vaporizer Digital.

And the accuracy gained compared to the amount of performance that's outputted is the equivelant to adding a k&N air filter to a car. It's not all that great.

There are many analog vapes that will out perform your "digital vape" and especially your $70 vapor brothers ebay knock off.


I'm going to second the direct draw/whip vape. I prefer my vaporbros knockoff that I got on ebay for under $70. Digital readout, actual temperature display, ceramic heating element and hands-free glass on glass operation.

Ceramic elements with glass on glass operation is the way to go; but I particularly don't enjoy throwing my money away. I doubt I'd ever buy an ebay vape. As far as digital readout.. I doubt your $70 vaporizer is as accurate as you think... or really is it even digital or does it just have a digital display? There is a difference.



Also, I don't really understand the whole allure of the bag vaporizers. I know the volcano will last 24-48 hours after inflated but it's bulky and where are you going that you can't plug in a vape?

It's convenient sitting in a circle of friends and being able to pass around a bag as opposed to having to have everyone come take a hit off the whip setup. Especially if you're in a large room. Secondly I can walk around the house puffing. Something I can't do with my vape system.

When I'm sick in bed and can't really move around.. my bag system works way better than trying to use my whip system. There are multiple applications for using a bag. I did not buy it because I had delusions of traveling with it and smoking. That's just stupid.



It's really irresponcible to drive while vaping...

Yes it is. This much should be obvious... but thanks for mentioning it?


I think you all spend too much money on vaporizers. The volcano is cool but it's like the Porsche of Vaporizers. What are you compensating for? The non-digital volcano is a headache to use because you tear through a lot of trial-and-error finding your heat setting. At least with these digital guys, you can google it, set it and have fun.


This is a matter of opinion. If you can't use the non-digital volcano then you really need some help. It's a dial format with each number corresponding to a specific temperature. Really all you have to do is set it at your desired temperature and leave it. I'm sorry that this is too much of a headache for you to use.

Here's a link with all the temperature settings:

Volcano Classic - Air temperature table (http://www.storz-bickel.com/fenster/volcano_temperaturtabelle_us.html)

As far as it being the porsche of vaporizers. I agree; and I believe it was my money well spent. If anything goes wrong I know I can contact Storz-Bickel and replacement parts will be on their way. Or I can ship my volcano back and they will repair it.

Just like a porsche you are paying for the guaranteed quality that the name stands for. It's all you're paying for but I see nothing wrong with this if you have the money to spend.

[donsolo]

My only concern is that you can take a LOT of money and buy green instead.

But my unit is quite digital to be honest. As for accuracy. I've tested it with the laser thermometers and it's within 3deg c. It also has a digital readout of actual temp so you can see if you're drawing too hard and making the heat a moot point.

I've had mine for over 6 months needing nothing more than a cleaning.

I'm all for these volcanos but it does need to be stated that you shouldn't have to go into debt for quality vapor.

[daihashi]

My only concern is that you can take a LOT of money and buy green instead.

But my unit is quite digital to be honest. As for accuracy. I've tested it with the laser thermometers and it's within 3deg c. It also has a digital readout of actual temp so you can see if you're drawing too hard and making the heat a moot point.

I've had mine for over 6 months needing nothing more than a cleaning.

I'm all for these volcanos but it does need to be stated that you shouldn't have to go into debt for quality vapor.

$500 is going into debt? I didn't know it took such a small amount :wtf:

I know what you're saying though; and I agree get what is within your budget but your original reasoning for being against the volcano was pretty wrong and biased.

As far as your laser thermometer readout. I seriously have my doubts but I'll just have to take your word for it.

Pictures are worth a thousand words.