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[GreenLeaf420]

My plan's are leaning the lower stems look funny. When I tilt the plant it feels like it broke loose from the peat pellet. That's one of the mediums the other is hydrotone. The roots are popping out the bottom of the Hydro Farm Buckets they were doing really well till I noticed this.

Thanks in Advanced GL420

[GreenLeaf420]

I really need some help!!!!!

I don't want the plant's to get damaged or even worse.

[Rusty Trichome]

I don't do hydro, but until someone with that knowledge comes around...I can recommend you fill out the troubleshooting form, and be as specific as possible.

[stinkyattic]

Is the plant looking droopy?
I would take out some of those pebbles or try to figure out how to keep the top layer drier around the base of the stem. I like to leave my rooting plug showing above the level of the HT. You'll want to stake it. If it looks even slightly mushy, get going on Serenade RIGHT AWAY- spray it on the surface of the medium to combat or prevent root/stem rot.
You are also seeing white bumps- those are the nubs of adventitious roots, which grow in very high humidity conditions. They aren't bad, but signal that you have a lot of moisture in that region. More fans, if you can, even just small ones placed in among the plants to move air.

The rootbound thing is another issue entirely. There's a whole bunch about it in one of Weedhound's DWC logs.

[GreenLeaf420]

Yes some are looking droopy 3 have it so far out of 12 in these dam pots. I should Have stuck to soil I just seen such dam good results from the DWC. I have the ring set up as low as possible. The stems are very hard not mushh The water bounces from the hydrotone up onto the stems. Humidity is definitely higher down low by the water. Can I make up a cone to go around the lower stems for bounce back protection or will taht just make things worse? Or cut a piece of Rock and wrap it around the stems I just put the medium level with the hydrotone. The roots are not a problem @ all yet but WH told me to look out for that.

Thanks In advanced GL420 :jointsmile:

Am I screwed or is this normal?

[GreenLeaf420]

OK purchased the serenada I hit them with a good batch of that. The hydrotone I noticed was turning green Humidity levels in room are 60 and I'm pumping co2 @ 1200ppm I need to keep them they are looking to good to start all over the stems are not mush yet . How quick does serenada work and what should my next steps be in trying to keep them healthy.

Thanks GL420:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Can you sink the drip ring down into the hydroton? And if you put a collar, cone, etc around the stem, make sure there is good air flow.
The Serenade starts working immediately and fights fungus.

I am concerned about your droop though. That's not a good sign. If I see unexplained wilting, I mist with neem oil- lightly!- and raise the lights until I know I have found the cause. Can you get pics of the whole plant?

[PlantHeadJ]

I would say that there is not enough ventaliation at the crown of the plant. Also you did not say the color of your roots. If possible get a fan going so it circulates the air at the top of the buckets asap. The Hydroton is turning green cause the light is hitting nutrient rich water and causing algea to grow. Add 30ml H2O2 to kill what ever is growing on the 'ton and repeat 2 days later. That water hits the green stuff and goes into your res.

[GreenLeaf420]

Can you get pics of the whole plant?

Right away I'm on it....

[GreenLeaf420]

Here is the worst plant in the first pic and the rest are just random. I have a big 12" Charcoal Can I will be dragging in there tonight that should stir things up a bit. It is a sealed room W/ the CO2 pumping @ 1100 Ppm's. The roots are white as can be thanks to lot's of hydrozyme. Just when I said to a buddy I will not have any bug problems I noticed this root rot issue. I hit them W/ Serenada and I'm awaiting new instructions. LOL Do you think if I was to soak and treat 6' Rockwall then cut it so it will go around the base could possibly resolve the issue? My mind is just running but I'm kind of lost @ this point. Also with the watering rather then constant maybe throw back 2 once every hour for 20 Min? Just some thoughts on my end. I have plans if they stay strong to add 8" Air stones to the buckets. Can you please tell me probability of survival rate. Should I just fill the 120 EZ and just go soil? Then I will throw out the WF Buckets. I've upgraded pumps added circulation pumps from reses. It's just been a real lot of work. A little more then I wanted or expected due to all the modifications. I don't want to give in but I think I've battled every problem possible so far. I really hope I can just complete the grow

Thanks In Advanced GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[GreenLeaf420]

WH were you @?

I appreciate everyones help so much...

Thank You all So Much GL420 :jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[GreenLeaf420]

I was thinking of doing this with white poly. Pushing down the drip rings as far down as possible. Then stake them for support. Although I'm unsure how survival is looking for now. Probably I can just go W/ a 6" square poly cut and just lay it on the hydrotone. To prevent the water bounce back and just monitor it. If they are going to be able to flower stakes will be a must. A 6" cut may be better then a full CVR due to the humidity that will lock in below.

I also have this grow log for the buckets.

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/155689-first-time-dwc-w-water-farm-buckets.html

Thanks GL420

[GreenLeaf420]

Here are some shots of some hurt ones that are not doing so well....

PIC-1 BAD SHAPE
PIC-2 BAD SHAPE
PIC-3 HEALTHY
PIC-4 Good ONE
PIC-5 GOOD SHAPE

[stinkyattic]

Listen to PlantHed.
And I would avoid adding RW to your system, as it holds even more moisture than HT. Your job is to allow the part of the stem where it meets the root to stay rather dry- this is what PlantHed referred to as the 'crown'. Especially if you are having uncontrolled splashing onto the stem, you will need extra air flow.

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey Stink!!!!!:jointsmile:

I spoke with WH She said


Ok here are my thoughts:

Johnny....I love you. Every one in the world wants to add more and more. You speakum WISE words....less nutes and more O2. Great all around plan no matter what the problem until you can get a diagnosis.

GL....I dont see anything wrong with your plant stems. They look strong and healthy from the photos I see. If they are leaning then the issue is in the hydroton/and or your roots being weak/undersized/diseased etc and just not providing the support they should

You have pretty good sized plants for w/f buckets so you may well run into rootbound issues further in flowering. Imo cloning is starting to look like a good idea because of size issues only. That's something to consider because you already are going with more buckets, plants etc than a lot of us so if you are looking for MORE yield you may have to rethink your w/fs......just a bit of cud to chew on.

That being said.....the way to stop that leaning is to get some good gardening tape and tie the branches to the w/f. I ended up drilling some small holes in the sides of my tan buckets to tie branches to for lsting and they work great. :)

She had said the stems are OK but the roots are not blowing through the bottom the way they are on hers. I've been doing all you guys & Gals have said and the fans were added to the bottom...

Stink if you get a chance please check out my log

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/155689-first-time-dwc-w-water-farm-buckets.html

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile: