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wayward
06-05-2008, 05:56 AM
No offfense to Sticky or anyone else, as there's some really good stuff here, but videos and instructions are available.
videos, you might want to watch them all.
YouTube - The Dirt - Award Winning Planing Mix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOFbySB32cY)

instructions
http://www.gro4me.com/Grow%20Class%20INET.pdf

forget the b.s. you hear about and grow like a pro.

peace, ww

blink_inc
06-05-2008, 10:51 AM
You have one post and are telling people to go somewhere else for info.

Thanks for the post, what a valueable contribution to the community.

So you came here for what?

stinkyattic
06-05-2008, 12:08 PM
I could give a rats ass about where people get their info; doesn't hurt my feelings if you like someone else's writing style better than mine.
But joining to promote another site is terrible form and is called SPAM, which can get you kicked outta here faster than you can blink...

Rusty Trichome
06-05-2008, 12:20 PM
Sick-em, Sticky....I mean Stinky...

chongman420
06-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Sick-em, Sticky....I mean Stinky...

:S2: good one RT!

stinkyattic
06-05-2008, 07:22 PM
The more I read it, the more I see that bit about 'the BS you hear about'... what specific BS we talkin' here? Posting that on a forum, and saying 'go somewhere else where there isn't BS', implies that we are so full of it our eyes are, collectively, turning brown.
lol I think it is time to post a YouTube video called 'How to make new friends on a forum, in only one post!'

Forwhat420
06-05-2008, 07:34 PM
I will stick to my family members here!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks,,but no thanks. Somebody remove this guy from are yard...

wayward
06-06-2008, 12:04 AM
The idea was to reduce the volume of info to a few simple how-to's by way of video, but if you folks don't like it, that's fine. I don't see what good sharing grow logs will do. Growing isn't that hard but it always seems like growers want to make things more complex as they go, apparently with the idea the product will be better. If you want to boot me, so be it. I came to share, not to fight. And not to SPAM!
(By the way Stinky, it's "couldn't care less." If I thought you're eyes were brown, I would have said so.)

Rusty Trichome
06-06-2008, 01:56 AM
The idea was to reduce the volume of info to a few simple how-to's by way of video, but if you folks don't like it, that's fine.


Good idea. Too bad nobody here has ever thought of it. :thumbsup: You keep watching your video's. Nothing wrong with that.
But while you're waiting for your popcorn to finish popping before the show starts, we at CanCom will get together, and thru casual discourse we'll get better at troubleshooting, perfecting technique and imporving quality, all the while discussing products that work, products that don't, and the nerve of some newcomers.

The problem with any instructional video is, at least in here you get the experience from a variety of sources, both archival and from active members themselves. Help customized to your individual growspace, strain, lighting, medium and nutes. That's the problem with the grow books, too. Sure ...you can put together a textbook or video and describe to everyone in general, what they will need and how things should be done. But until they get in there and do it...it's just another book or video with cool pictures.
Where in the video does it provide a link to ask questions if an emergency arises or they have any unforseen problems...?


I don't see what good sharing grow logs will do. Growing isn't that hard but it always seems like growers want to make things more complex as they go, apparently with the idea the product will be better...

Been spending time and money on useless techniques or equipment...? Been getting bad advise from another site?
Sounds to me like you've got some issues you're working your way thru. (don't stop workin' on 'em now...you've got a long way to go)

So let's see...
you so graciously provided us a link to an outside source, to teach us how to grow, (sorry our knowledge isn't informed enough for ya)
you disrespect Stinky, (among the best at what she does and whom she does it for)
And, you've insulted our members that take the time to create a photo journal to explain step-by-step how they've brought their ladies to harvest, while answering questions from those wanting to learn more.

Your approach to all of this was remarkably uninformative, self-centered and immature. Coming here thinking that all of this is new to us, is just plain stupid and indefensable. :jointsmile:

Perhaps at the next discussion board you join, you'll lurk till you get the whole picture.

One final question...are you a medical cannabis user, or just another drug addict with axes to grind, and an inflated sense of self-worth?

hydrocannabis
06-06-2008, 02:31 AM
Good idea. Too bad nobody here has ever thought of it. :thumbsup: You keep watching your video's. Nothing wrong with that.
But while you're waiting for your popcorn to finish popping before the show starts, we at CanCom will get together, and thru casual discourse we'll get better at troubleshooting, perfecting technique and imporving quality, all the while discussing products that work, products that don't, and the nerve of some newcomers.

The problem with any instructional video is, at least in here you get the experience from a variety of sources, both archival and from active members themselves. Help customized to your individual growspace, strain, lighting, medium and nutes. That's the problem with the grow books, too. Sure ...you can put together a textbook or video and describe to everyone in general, what they will need and how things should be done. But until they get in there and do it...it's just another book or video with cool pictures.
Where in the video does it provide a link to ask questions if an emergency arises or they have any unforseen problems...?



Been spending time and money on useless techniques or equipment...? Been getting bad advise from another site?
Sounds to me like you've got some issues you're working your way thru. (don't stop workin' on 'em now...you've got a long way to go)

So let's see...
you so graciously provided us a link to an outside source, to teach us how to grow, (sorry our knowledge isn't informed enough for ya)
you disrespect Stinky, (among the best at what she does and whom she does it for)
And, you've insulted our members that take the time to create a photo journal to explain step-by-step how they've brought their ladies to harvest, while answering questions from those wanting to learn more.

Your approach to all of this was remarkably uninformative, self-centered and immature. Coming here thinking that all of this is new to us, is just plain stupid and indefensable. :jointsmile:

Perhaps at the next discussion board you join, you'll lurk till you get the whole picture.

One final question...are you a medical cannabis user, or just another drug addict with axes to grind, and an inflated sense of self-worth?



hell yah rusty U go tell him. who needs ppl on here saying lame stuff like that.
I like growing videos as much as the next guy.
but what I like more is the fact that on here I can ask growing qustions and get great help on getting my plants to grow at there best.

so yah I love the hell out of this site. and I like all the great growers on here also. ppl likw stinky,rusty,WH. my list can go on for miles but U get the idea right.

I love growing and I have found a great site also that can help ppls plants turn from crap to healthy beautiful plants.:D

wayward
06-06-2008, 02:57 AM
"Good idea."
Thanks. I'm sure others have thought of it.

"all the while discussing products that work, products that don't, and the nerve of some newcomers."

The purpose was to inform, not pursuade. If other methods work for you, great. But stoney's methods word for me, so I thought I'd share. Her methods are cheap, simple, and effective. Perfect, in my opinion, but I understand that's just my opinion. Sometimes how we say it can strike people more than what is said. Obviously that's the case here.

"Help customized to your individual growspace, strain, lighting, medium and nutes."

That's my point. I ask why. Here's where I'm at: There are a few specific rules to follow, if you will, to make any grow work. What the indoor grower is trying to do is mimic nature. This isn't easy. So yes, RT, you are right in that there are issues to look at. But I wonder if people don't detail these issues to death. My point in posting what I did was to show others it CAN be simple if you just let be that way. For example, Stinkyattic has a post about the breakdown of potting soil and how, when the particles are smaller, they hold more water. True enough, but does it matter? Again, no offense to Stinky, and no, I didn't insult her at all. Some people just view it like that. But again, sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it that matters. I made my post very short on purpose, even qualifying it by saying up front that it wasn't intended to offend anyone. Yet people here are offended.

"But until they get in there and do it...it's just another book or video with cool pictures."

Well, sure I agree. And you may not realize it but that actually helps my argument, as you can spend all day and them some looking at books and videos. However, why do that when you can be shown something that is simple and effective. I guess we could argue this forever, couldn't we? "No, wayward, we can't and we're going to kick your stupid ass out of here." Okay, but before you do that, why not put me to the test? Why don't some of you give me problems to see just how stupid I really am?

"Where in the video does it provide a link to ask questions if an emergency arises or they have any unforseen problems...?"

There isn't one. But again that's the point. The videos exist to keep things simple and reduce problems. I'm not saying the info is perfect, but the stuff struck me as being better than days of research. And remember, there was another link that has text to help others out with problems. It wasn't just a link for videos.

"Been spending time and money on useless techniques or equipment...?"

No, I haven't.

"Been getting bad advise from another site?"

Yes, you could say that. But it was years ago. Now I'm better off. I know, you don't care.

"Sounds to me like you've got some issues you're working your way thru. (don't stop workin' on 'em now...you've got a long way to go)"

I disagree. In my opinion, those who burn time on, what did you call it?, casual discourse, are the ones with along way to go. Letting ego drive you doesn't make for good decision-making.

"(sorry our knowledge isn't informed enough for ya)"

I never said that. Perhaps there's someone here who benefits from what I did.

"you disrespect Stinky, (among the best at what she does and whom she does it for)"

No, I didn't. I had no intention of doing so. That's why I specifically said No offense to Stinky. Although I admit spelling her screen name wrong. Sorry. I've read some of her stuff and it's impressive in detail, knowledge, and quality of written English.

"And, you've insulted our members that take the time to create a photo journal to explain step-by-step how they've brought their ladies to harvest, while answering questions from those wanting to learn more."

How? What I said was, I don't see how a grow log will help. Again, the purpose to the methods of the videos is to remove the need for grow logs, making a grow remarkably simple provided you use certain elements to mimic nature.

"Your approach to all of this was remarkably uninformative, self-centered and immature. Coming here thinking that all of this is new to us, is just plain stupid and indefensable."

I disagree. Making my defense now. There's nothing self-centered and immature about helping others. I didn't insist the videos be watched or techniques be used, so your attack on me is futile, in my opinion. The purpose is to inform, not pursuade or insult. Look, RT, if you were a real newbie (which you're not), would you not appreciate someone showing you a simple, effective way to achieve what you want? Can't that be said about anything in life? Do you really want to spend hour after hour researching stuff on the web? Maybe you do. There's more to life.

"Perhaps at the next discussion board you join, you'll lurk till you get the whole picture."

What picture is that you're referring to? That I should be a club member and know the secret handshakes and codenames? That's what places like this come down to -- just one big social clique. And here comes new Wayward who obviously doesn't know shit cuz he's new and wants us to join his club instead. Nope, never said that either.

"One final question...are you a medical cannabis user, or just another drug addict with axes to grind, and an inflated sense of self-worth?"

Here's the biggest shocker of all -- I'm neither. But I think these issue could apply to you. Have a nice day.

wayward
06-06-2008, 02:57 AM
:rastabanna:

wayward
06-06-2008, 05:23 AM
Stinky has given me an infraction for Spam/unsolicited advertisments. It should be understood that my initial post was nothing of the sort. I'm not selling anything. In retrospect, the words I used, something like "forget the b.s. you hear and grow like a pro" was not an accurate way to phrase what I was wanting to say. With this in mind I can see how others felt like I was stepping on their toes. I really wanted to say something like "keep it simple," or "your ways are pretty good, but take a look at this." The way I put sounded arrogant and I should've been more careful.
Regarding the idea of spam, I don't think I fit this as here's a piece from Wikipedia's definition of spam:
[edit] Types of spam
Spam has several definitions, varying by the source.

Unsolicited bulk e-mail (UBE)â??unsolicited e-mail, sent in large quantities.
Unsolicited commercial e-mail (UCE)â??this more restrictive definition is used by regulators whose mandate is to regulate commerce, such as the U.S. Federal Trade Commission.
Any email message that is fraudulent.
Any email message where the senderâ??s identity is forged, or messages sent though unprotected SMTP servers, unauthorized proxies, or botnets (see Theft of service below).

I don't think my post qualifies as spam. ww

stinkyattic
06-06-2008, 12:14 PM
I did not give you an infraction. I gave you a warning.

When a user joins a forum with the SOLE purpose not of participating in ongoing discussions there, but to promote another website, that qualifies as spam. I think your post qualifies as spam... most people lurk, then post in the intro section or post up a question about a plant or some MMJ issue... not come in, and immediately leave, leaving nothing behind but a first post trying to lure members elsewhere.

We all know how to use Google here, and informative links are constantly posted- IN SPECIFIC THREADS TO WHICH THEY ARE RELEVANT.

And re: the correction to my grammar- I know how to write. Sorry if my colloquialisms don't constitute good English one hundred percent of the time. You'd do better on MySpace correcting all that utterly ridiculous txt-tlk that the teenagers have decided is an appropriate means of communicating their [superficial] thoughts...

I don't feel like bickering any more. Rusty has, in his usual manner, written out a good explanation of why your initial posting rubbed the collective fur backwards.

stinkyattic
06-06-2008, 12:25 PM
Edit: By the way, it DOES matter what the particle size of your soil is- VERY MUCH- as any gardener or soil scientist will confirm.
One of the properties of water is that it will actually adhere to the edges of its container, rather than flowing entirely freely- even, to a certain extent, against gravity!
You may demonstrate this by putting a very narrow tube such as a hollow reed into a glass of water and noting that the water level within hte reed is higher than that within the glass. The relative difference between these is DIRECTLY correlated to the interior diameter of the tube, with narrower tubes allowing the interior water level to rise much higher- defying gravity! So drainage is quite impeded, if you follow the logic, by smaller interstitial spaces between soil particles.
Silty and clay soils have the smallest pore size, and drain the slowest. If you have ever grown a plant, you will know that you never use clay in your garden soil except in very specific instances, with very specific plants, that are few an far between. Perlite is designed to have a very chunky structure, with large interstitial spaces; hydroton, then, would be the extreme example of this. It holds far more oxygen than a dense soil would, and drains far more freely.
Peat moss STARTS with a fairly nice particle size, but over 6-10 weeks from first wetting, will break into smaller particles, which do not drain, and will suffocate your plants' roots.

But I guess that doesn't matter, which is why it does not appear in ANY grow videos.

The beauty of a forum is that you can freely move from topic to topic, choosing the order of learning that suits you best, and re-visit subjects of current interest without having to find the one spot on that one video that mentioned it in passing.

chongman420
06-06-2008, 01:06 PM
Wow, I bet there's smoke rolling off Stinky's keyboard! :admin2:

stinkyattic
06-06-2008, 01:14 PM
My keyboard is about 14" from where I just fried up a skillet of hot sausage and peppers-n-onions for breakfast. Keyboard smoke and grease smoke are virtually indistinguishable without extensive testing, as they are both composed primarily of incompletely combusted hydrocarbons.
:wtf:
However my wrists hurt, fucking carpal tunnel. I need to switch to video format soon... ; )

chongman420
06-06-2008, 01:18 PM
I just fried up a skillet of hot sausage and peppers-n-onions for breakfast.

Yummy! :eat:

justanotherbozo
06-06-2008, 01:18 PM
No offfense to Sticky or anyone else, as there's some really good stuff here, but videos and instructions are available.
videos, you might want to watch them all.
YouTube - The Dirt - Award Winning Planing Mix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOFbySB32cY)

instructions
http://www.gro4me.com/Grow%20Class%20INET.pdf

forget the b.s. you hear about and grow like a pro.

peace, ww

i noticed your thread when 'blink' was the only one who had responded and i chose to stay away, partly because i knew a shit storm was comin' but, mostly because what you were offering wasn't, isn't new, not to me anyway.

and not to many, many others here, as Stinky has said, using Google isn't all that difficult, you don't even need perfect english.

the point of coming to these forums you so oviously have missed is the sense of belonging to a community, a group of like-minded people who become friends over time. people who willingly help total strangers and are helped by other, more advanced strangers, until we're not strangers any more, were friends that haven't met yet.

as a newbie myself, it's nice to have a place to go with a specific problem and get multiple responses (not all of which are germaine or even right), you only learn which people to listen to if you stay and participate.

and lets not forget the illegality of our little hobby, if you talk to people you know, eventually, you will get busted, here, i can talk to my hearts content and, unless i'm stupid, or LEO has another reason to be looking at me closely, i'm safe to talk about my ongoing struggles up the learning curve.

i still haven't found a video that i can brag to about my success' nor one that will hold my hand and help me with a problem i've never encountered before. (like Weedhound, Stinky, Rusty, ImageReaper, and shit, there's just too many to mention, have done for me)(many don't even know how much they have helped me)

anyway, if you had taken the time and trouble to become a part of this community you would be better able to understand it's value, then, if you had shared those links (that many here already know about) with the group, your sharing would have been appreciated and aknowledged.

justanotherbozo
06-06-2008, 01:22 PM
My keyboard is about 14" from where I just fried up a skillet of hot sausage and peppers-n-onions for breakfast. Keyboard smoke and grease smoke are virtually indistinguishable without extensive testing, as they are both composed primarily of incompletely combusted hydrocarbons.
:wtf:
However my wrists hurt, fucking carpal tunnel. I need to switch to video format soon... ; )

just RFLMAO :S2:

Rusty Trichome
06-06-2008, 02:42 PM
Wasn't intending to lay into you like that wayward, but you have to realize that this is a community that has been around for years. In a forum like this, you get folks from every spectrum of life, and some of them seem to think that since we smoke cannabis, we're uninspired morons.

Obviously...these folks are mistaken.

We (the CanCom members) are very proud of our knowledge and techniques, and we put a lot of time and effort into providing the most accurate information available, for the care and feeding of our little medically botanical wonders.

Had you just enrolled into our beauty school, and the first thing out of your mouth was something to the effect of "hey guys, I just found out that down the street, there's a guy that knows a guy that put together a video with 10 year old hair style techniques...and it's gotta be better than the shit you guys learn here..."
Even though the people are from a completely different social group...you would be immediatelly labeled an idiot, and treated as such. Get to know your surroundings before you scream "fire".

Now, had you originally posted just the video, with a nudge about how cool it was, and how it helped you, instead of the implied insults...likely this post would only be a couple of responses long accompanied by a few thumbs-up. To me tho, the video's are useless once you put seed into ground. That is the point where the video becomes unable to guide you thru the rough spots.

If there was a problem at the last site you were a member of, it's likely not a good idea to carry that resentment here. (DOH)

BTW...I don't speak for management. I'm just a proud member that loves learning and teaching new techniques here on CanCom. (more so, since I haven't seen certain disgusting cartoons lately :thumbsup:)

wayward
06-06-2008, 10:41 PM
you folks obviously remain confused over my posts. Stinky, my post gave a compliment to your English. Please read that one again, if you would. There's no criticism there.
This is what pot does to us - makes people confused, forgetfull, and hostile. Bozo wants some handholding and RT's hairstyle analogy is a completely different type of thing, subject to fashion, not science.
Stinky, the water in the reed stays higher because the mass outside the reed is greater, which disallows the water inside the reed to lower itself. It is not because water sticks to the walls of the reed. This cohesion does occur but not in your example.
You folks are stoned.

Rusty Trichome
06-07-2008, 12:37 AM
IDK...the more you try and pull the "it's not me" or the "I'm so misunderstood" crap, the faster your credibility vanishes. None of us typed the words or context for you. You come in arrogant and angry from another board to teach us how to grow, ("forget the b.s. you hear about and grow like a pro.") and expect us to sit by and watch you slam and spam us, then argue the warning?

We are not in your back alley, and you are not just shootin' shit wid da homies, and last I saw, nobody gave you permission to be disrespectful to our members or to the site itself. You came into our medical cannabis community and start shit that would be unacceptable on any board. Of course there will be a reaction from the locals.

And yes, I am stoned. My doctor recommended it. That's why I'm here. However, unlike others I've come across lately, at least I'm not stoned and clueless.

Now that we've gotten to know each other, I do look forward to your forthcoming posts. :jointsmile:

stinkyattic
06-07-2008, 02:16 AM
you folks obviously remain confused over my posts. Stinky, my post gave a compliment to your English. Please read that one again, if you would. There's no criticism there.
This is what pot does to us - makes people confused, forgetfull, and hostile. Bozo wants some handholding and RT's hairstyle analogy is a completely different type of thing, subject to fashion, not science.
Stinky, the water in the reed stays higher because the mass outside the reed is greater, which disallows the water inside the reed to lower itself. It is not because water sticks to the walls of the reed. This cohesion does occur but not in your example.
You folks are stoned.
I saw your compliment to my English. And I also saw the correction to it.
I rarely post stoned. I smoke a very low amount during the day to control a panic disorder. And I do not believe in arguing whilst under the influence of intoxicants. It can be embarrassing later.
If you don't like pot, why are you here?
And why don't you read up on capillary action? The mass/air pressure difference only applies when one end of the reed is SEALED, as in a barometer. Here's what you need to take a look at:
Capillary action - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capillary_action)
And finally, insulting the group as a whole isn't making your case any better. There are plenty of other pot forums on the internet; I'm sure you will fit in somewhere.

wayward
06-07-2008, 04:31 AM
Ok, one more time.

I need you to point out to me where I corrected your English. I didn't do this, or so I think, so please show me where.

Why are you asking me why am I here if I don't like pot? I never said I didn't. RT asked me if I was a med user or an addict with an axe to grind. All I said was I'm neither.

On the reed issue, you used the words "hollow reed" and I assumed you were referring to the hollow space inside, not the capillary structure. That's all.

If saying you folks are stoned is an insult, why use at all? I am sorry you have a medical condition and it's none of my business, but I don't understand why calling people here stoned is an insult. Be happy!

To Rusty, I'm not angry from another board. In fact, I don't know of any others than this one right now. OG was killed off years ago when Heaven's Stairway was busted by the Canuck police. Cannabisworld died too. This is the only site I know of and I have seen mistakes in these forums. But that's ok, cuz everyone will learn eventually. Simpler really is better provided you follow a few specific rules to imitate nature. Now, Stinkyattic, please feel free to delete me.

justanotherbozo
06-07-2008, 05:21 AM
LOL, maybe we'll just ignore you, together, as a community

stinkyattic
06-07-2008, 12:30 PM
This is the only site I know of and I have seen mistakes in these forums. But that's ok, cuz everyone will learn eventually. Simpler really is better provided you follow a few specific rules to imitate nature. Now, Stinkyattic, please feel free to delete me.
The forum posting guide spells out that account deletion is rarely done, and only in cases of security problems such as a pending court case or photographs in threads. Never over an inability to make friends, or a lack of success at herding the farmer's cattle to a different pasture, and finding out that in fact they don't have the grass-is-greener mentality.
There are mistakes everywhere, including the one you posted yesterday about Shultz houseplant food. They are all over, and it is the job of the community, and my job as a moderator, to correct those mistakes and explain the reasoning behind the correction. Chemical fertilizer does not 'imitate nature'. Indoor gardening is largely learning what the plant needs, and manipulating its environment, within the limitations of artificial lighting, to produce conditions that are almost, but not entirely, unlike Nature (HGG fans anyone?); but rather, an improvement on it, where drought and pests do not exist, and the plant is never competing for light, space, water, or food with other species.

The language correction is in your second post on this thread, referring to my use of the term 'I don't give a rat's ass', which my mother used to use when scolding me. And my mother is a wicked grammar cop.

I'm sorry to see you giving up and leaving the community over an unwillingness to admit that the community might legitimately feel insulted by your first post being, "There is BS here, come over next door where you'll learn ALL the secrets".

Oh well.

wayward
06-07-2008, 04:58 PM
Stinky, dear, you're wrong about some things I've written. Exactly what you wrote was "I could care less..." The proper way to put that is "I couldn't care less..." You didn't write "I don't give a rats ass." When you said I was correcting your grammar and I said I had not, I thought you were referring to grammar of your sticky threads as that's what I was referring to when I said I thought your posts were good.

There was no error in my use of Shultz fertilizer. I've used the product, it works, and I never said that it mimics nature. I understand that Shultz and Peters and others like them, are chemical ferts. I know they're made in a laboratory setting. When I say "mimic nature" I'm speaking in general terms, hoping people will look around themselves. Schultz is probably appropriate to use for indoor as it is available without need for bacteria to break it down. I suppose the same can be said for almost any fert that dissolves easily in water. Remember, a plant will take what it needs when it needs it. Indoor grows tend to be of short duration, hence the need to use a fast-acting fert. I had this same problem with someone I knew that was growing about a thousand indoor plants. The grower was also a heavy smoker and she was using a soil kind of popular at the time she found on Overgrow. It was called "Vic's Super Soil." This was comprised of bone and blood meal, etc., lots of powders, but the problem was it wasn't good for a fast indoor grow. Bacteria has to take the time to break the powders down so the plants can take up the molecules and her grow was very fast, no more than two months per plant, typically.

This is the problem I keep having here - there is too much confusion and people keep saying I wrote something that I never wrote. Even Rusty is doing this. My "I'm misunderstood" crap is that people here are having a hard time understanding what I do write and go so far as to put words in my mouth, so to speak, text-wise. A great example, Stinky, is your writing that I wrote "There is b.s. here, come over to this thread." What I posted was a link to an instructional webpage and some Youtube videos. It was not a site like this for people to join. I didn't mean to imply there is b.s. here in my first post but I admit that it could viewed that way and I've stated that I should have phrased my words differently. Something like "hey, check this out." Using the words "forget the b.s. you hear about" wasn't meant to imply people here are full of it even though it can seem like it. I just used the wrong words.

One thing I forgot to mention was the need for wind to strengthen the plant's stem. To keep indoor plants from falling over, they need to be buffeted by wind from an oscillating fan. Some people here know this and that's great.

Another thing that's important is for users to take vitamins. This can help your mind clear the confusion and deal with memory loss. This way you can have your medicine and think straight too. Give it a try, it works.

stinkyattic
06-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Another thing that's important is for users to take vitamins. This can help your mind clear the confusion and deal with memory loss. This way you can have your medicine and think straight too. Give it a try, it works.
Wow. You ARE starting to sound like a guy who doesn't plan to be here long.

And don't EVER fucking call me 'dear' again.

Rusty Trichome
06-07-2008, 06:48 PM
Whether poorly worded, or intentional, what you came in here and posted was inuendo and insult. The increasing audacity of your latter posts was pointed out repeatedly, and you continue to reply indignantly. You come in here and tell us of your assumption that our system(s) of growing and maintaining our meds is inferior to yours. I say you show signs of being full of yourself, borderline on knowledge, and empty of respect. (both given and recieved)

Also, I didn't say that those were your words. What they were, was my first impression of your ongoing, rude behavior. :thumbsup:

midlifecrisis
06-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Hmmmm, me thinks we have a fisherman, and he/she is baiting the hook at every turn........I unfortunately have to terminate an employee for this exact type of behavior, he gets into altercations with everyone, then will immediately try to apologize or refute the events and winds up insulting/angering everyone all over again.

After reading through these posts it does appear to be intentional baiting, but this is just my opinion, and according to my wife that and a dime will get you a piece of bubble gum.....

wayward
06-09-2008, 05:40 AM
I'm not a "fisherman." I'm not looking for a fight. Now I finally understand what's going on is that Rusty Trichome and Stinkyattic are afraid of losing the admiration of members in these forums. They've worked hard to achieve this admiration and don't want to lose it.

I've never said methods here are inferior to mine. Although, in another thread JesseJames12345 has thanked me for giving the exact same method and yes, it can be that simple. In that thread Stinkyattic writes that Superthrive gives a plant nitrogen. But I've looked on my bottle of Superthrive and there's no nitrogen. In fact there's wording that says "No fertilizer." Just vitamins and minerals and hormones. Hmmm.... Here's the thread:
http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/155244-little-curly-bushy-plants-need-little-help-2.html

Stinky writes also that nitrogen tells a plant to grow leaves. This is not correct. A plant's hormones tell it what to do and hormones are affected by... all together now... the light cycle! Yes, you've got it! Not the food source, but the hours of light exposure tell a plant whether to veg cycle to flower cycle. You can't induce a cycle shift by using a particular food type or quantity. The plant will continue to grow no matter what cycle it's in. The difference becomes one of maturity. And just like people, maturity is based on hormones (sexual maturity that is).

Stinky writes about the French term "Idee fixe," pronounced ee-day feeks. It means to be obsessive about details and analyze them to death, so to speak. She writes as if I'm doing this but I'm not. What I'm trying to say is just the opposite. Your grow can be simpler. It can be easier. And Rusty, if you really thought that my first post wasn't intended to be like you thought it was, why have you given me so much resistance? You want me to go away so you can maintain you place of admiration here. You say I have an inflated sense of self-worth, and why do you do this? I haven't said anything like it. Are you afraid I'll steal all the admiration you've enjoyed for so long?

When I first heard about growing like this, I didn't want to believe it either. Then I tried it. Now I can't imagine doing anything else. Those who will listen, let them hear me.

stinkyattic
06-09-2008, 11:19 AM
SuperThrive is loaded with Urea.
Plants produce their hormones in response to a variety of environmental conditions. Availability of fertilizer components is one of them.
Before you tell me I'm full of shit, do your homework. Tell ya what; if your grow style is so great, put your money where your mouth is- let's see a detailed log out of your garden, including soil mix recipes and other details. That's a better format for converting people to the style with which you have become comfortable.

You really think we are that shallow here? You amuse me. I've got no worries that your posts will make anyone else here appear less of a grower. I just think you're a hassle, give questionable advice in inappropriate ways, and don't have particularly good forum manners. I've already warned you about posting up incendiary comments meant to start arguments. This is the last time.

Edit: The concept of the idee fixe is not fixation on a detail; rather, it suggests an unshakeable, bordering on obsessive, opinion on or approach to a subject.

justanotherbozo
06-09-2008, 02:26 PM
i had bowed out of this 'discussion' because, having teenagers, i can recognize when someone is so convinced of thier position that even logic won't budge them.
'my mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts'

you might benefit from reading Dale Carnegie's book 'How to Win Friends and Influence People', i think rule #1 is, don't be an asshole



I'm not a "fisherman." I'm not looking for a fight. Now I finally understand what's going on is that Rusty Trichome and Stinkyattic are afraid of losing the admiration of members in these forums. They've worked hard to achieve this admiration and don't want to lose it.

rotflmao, you are SO full of yourself man, full of shit too, lol

i thumbed through that thread of jesse's and you were an asshole there too (btw, jesse is a noob like me and we thank everyone)

frankly, i'm surprised anyone is still bothering to either read or respond to your postings, i think good sense and good taste should be enough to show how arrogant and superior your attitude is.

not too fucking bright either, attacking the mods

i don't think your account should be deleted (although that would protect the noob's from your bullshit and the rest of us from your vitriol) i think you should be ignored

here, sit on this a while

:S4:

stinkyattic
06-09-2008, 02:29 PM
you might benefit from reading Dale Carnegie's book 'How to Win Friends and Influence People'Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing, but I couldn't remember the name of the author.

stinkyattic
06-09-2008, 02:39 PM
I think I will lock this thread, as the temptation to flame is getting too strong...