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jimmy8778
05-28-2008, 04:20 PM
So i just thought of this awesome question that i don't even know what my answer to it is yet, its not a right or wrong its an opinionatory question, but be prepared to explain what you answer is based off of and if you are challenged then be prepared to give some sort of a positive argument, you cant tell someone they are wrong, but you can try to convince them of your views, but be serious.



The Question is thus: What would you consider the "landmark" city of the world to be. To explain my question i will refer to it as this, the "lost city of atlantis" is considered to be the marvel of the ancient world, the city in which the best of everything of the civilization was shown. And the city of Atlantis was lost due to many theories, the most popular being a flood. And to relate this, if say the world were flooded, and another civilization was formed, what would be the city to them as atlantis is to us.



Don't just say your hometown or something ridiculous, unless you can back it up, i don't want to hear about some no-name town in the middle of france that has no real importance, something real. And don't just say atlantis either, because it is of the previous civilzations cities, and the atlantians are long gone to us even.



Of course i refer to atlantis as if it were real, i am not disclosing my opinion on it, it was merely a reference.



now go my little monkeys and think of what you will say...

GrinKyle
05-28-2008, 04:34 PM
None, humans are smart, people are not.

DaBudhaStank
05-28-2008, 05:27 PM
That's a good question. I'd really like to say Rome, but only in the ancient sense, which I guess doesn't really apply here. At it's height, Rome was the most amazing, techologically advanced and spectacular city the world had ever known, the pinnacle of human achievement. Nowadays it'd probably a be a toss up with New York City or the Vatican or something like that. Paris perhaps?

CaptainDank
05-28-2008, 09:32 PM
This is a really good question. I think it would have to be Tokyo, i went there a few years ago and it blew my mind. plus, its the largest city by far, with 34 and a half million people, you cant touch that shit... the next largest is NYC with about 20 million. Also, Dubai is doing some crazy shit...

Burj Dubai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Dubai)

thcbongman
05-28-2008, 10:11 PM
Jerusalem. It has signifiant religious and cultural importance.

CanaDanKs Inc.
05-29-2008, 05:54 AM
Don't mean to be off-track here...but I feel like mentioning a landmark wilderness park, if I may.

Yosemite Valley, is a wonderful natural landmark of the healthy and advanced civilization that is, the wilderness! So many complex organisms and forms of life and ancient solid landscapes. The Life!

:jointsmile:

rebgirl420
05-29-2008, 05:59 AM
Either Philadelphia or Washington D.C. because these places are the brthplace of America.

I say this because America has the best technology and like it or not were the world power. We have the most freedom of anyone in the world.

Reefer Rogue
05-29-2008, 08:26 AM
Amsterdam because it offers true liberal culture, meaning less government interference, more negative liberty and gives hope to many.

rebgirl420
05-29-2008, 08:38 AM
^ It's nice to see yet another regular!

It's been lonely without ya Reefer haha.

:dance:

Halcyon420
05-29-2008, 06:17 PM
I'd have to say Tokyo for technology and modern development, plus at a push they could go the same way as Atlantis! The earths crust is very very thin their...

Metaphor
05-29-2008, 06:46 PM
New York City. Its the most diverse city on this planet. Theres so many different races of people living together. Theres wall street and theres ghettos. Zoos, aquariums, ball parks, bodegas, subways, drugs, parks, ice skating, big christmas trees, statues of liberties, stadiums, ground zero, grafitti, clubs, bars, 24 hour delis, industrial areas, junkyards, the new years ball, nypd, like 8 bridges, all different types of food on the same block, beautiful women, museums, public transportation, one dollar ke-babs, bong shops, all kinds of shops, art, music, china town, junkies and fiends, blue collar, white collar, black, white, asian, spanish, middle eastern, latino, indian, jewish. Theres a bit of everything, Its the place where people come to make something with their lives. there is just no place like it. and if you deny that then you've never been here.

jimmy8778
05-30-2008, 03:15 AM
i like all the responses so far, they have been rather varied, but let me push it more towards what i was meaning, so if you had to pick a city where you could define the world's presence eminating from it, like athens or rome were the cities to live in in those eras, what would ours be now, i would call new york city the defining city of the 20th century, because it was pretty much what decided what happened, with wall street and the depression, and the 20th century being a time of great economical expansion for the world.

but its interesting to hear of religious cities as the ones for now, i agree with jerusalem, mecca, the vatican all that, but its interesting, it seems that this century will be dominated by religious strife, or peace, but at the moment it seems that religion is turning the world on its shoulders, yet the religious cities are the place to be, i myself like jerusalem the most, i want to visit it someday, it has a very interesting history, and it is in the most interesting region in the world at the moment, no matter how unstable.

jessejames12345
06-01-2008, 06:00 AM
I think the ultimate answer is 'everywhere' .......which, in the proper sense, is 'nowhere' as well...

I think Buddha said ; 'Pleasure breeds suffering and unsatisfactoriness'........so what 'was' , was . And what 'is' ,exists because of the 'was'...ALL of it.

nothing is more important then the other.... if that makes sense :stoned:

Sorry....ArJanHaze induced comma :stoned:

jimmy8778
06-01-2008, 01:30 PM
you know what, that is a very good answer, without this question up to any of my friends yet, we were having a discussion whilst high of a similar type of situation as in, these are what they were of the past, what is it now, type of thing.

We just had it about a different subject, but anyways, we were able to name all the things from before, then when it came to now we couldnt think of what truely defined this era so we said everything, which was true, this is a time for the culmination of history.

jessem98
06-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Either Philadelphia or Washington D.C. because these places are the brthplace of America.

I say this because America has the best technology and like it or not were the world power. We have the most freedom of anyone in the world.

lol! America does not have the best technology, period. Japan does. Also America is not the world power, i'd say Israel or china would be the world power, with the US coming a close third. The US just recently became powerful (after WWII). Like it or not, the world does not revolve around America, as much as some countries would like to replicate it. Thats not to say that America is insignificant, i just think to be calling it the "Atlantis of our age" is FAR off from the truth. Hey i love the country i live in (Canada) and i would love nothing more then to say "Canada is the modern day Atlantis", but looking at the facts in an unbiased point of view, sadly Canada is not, nor is America for that matter.

Oh i would also like to add i disagree with America having the most freedoms out of any place in the world, this may sound biased but i honestly do believe that Canada does have more freedom then the US and who knows, Canada is probably beaten by some other Country.

MadSativa
06-01-2008, 09:39 PM
This is a really good question. I think it would have to be Tokyo, i went there a few years ago and it blew my mind. plus, its the largest city by far, with 34 and a half million people, you cant touch that shit... the next largest is NYC with about 20 million. Also, Dubai is doing some crazy shit...

Burj Dubai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Dubai)

Most poppulated city in the world is Mexico City not Tokyo, Both very nice and beautifull citys though

As far as the city of the new world.............I have no Idea, but the space port will be up and running soon

MadSativa
06-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Captain.......I just recheck the population on wiwki their numbers are from 2003 I am preatty sure in 2006 the largest populated city was Mexico city with well over 36 bagillion........I dont know exact numbers but their up their. But Tolyo could have taken the lead again buy then.

40oz
06-02-2008, 08:44 AM
Also America is not the world power, i'd say Israel or china would be the world power, with the US coming a close third.

Israel? Really? Uncle Sam is spoon feeding Israel ground up money, bite by bite, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Every day.


Oh i would also like to add i disagree with America having the most freedoms out of any place in the world, this may sound biased but i honestly do believe that Canada does have more freedom then the US

I think you're right about that. You guys could start drinking when you were 19 and weed is basically legal. And those are the most important freedoms of all...that i dont already take for granted. Also, you are free from having to blow hard earned cash at hospitals.

Of course, our history in America is a lot more dramatic and awe inspiring...so America will always win..........until we lose. Then you can try to win.





Icon City? Easy... Rome. The city is one big work of art that has been under construction for centuries. Just gotta ignore the tourist traps

painretreat
06-02-2008, 10:36 AM
planet earth with Amsterdam gov't!

smokestoomuch
06-02-2008, 02:57 PM
I'd have to go with LONDON or NEW YORK

why,


London as well as New York are the most well known cities in the world.


Landmarks well where do i start we have the empire state building, statue of liberty, big ben, westminster abbey, buckingham palace i could go on and on and on.

London and new york are two incredible cities with diverse population with a wide range of clture and religion.There are over 300 languages spoken within the city.
We are also directly in the middle of the map! (London)

I think these would be my two choices for landmark cities.
The centre of everything.

Then again Paris, Rome, Madrid, Melbourne maybe even Tokyo are up there too...........

keep toking, keep smiling, keep burning :rastasmoke:

Anubis10012007
06-02-2008, 05:36 PM
The Question is thus: What would you consider the "landmark" city of the world to be. To explain my question i will refer to it as this, the "lost city of atlantis" is considered to be the marvel of the ancient world, the city in which the best of everything of the civilization was shown. And the city of Atlantis was lost due to many theories, the most popular being a flood. And to relate this, if say the world were flooded, and another civilization was formed, what would be the city to them as atlantis is to us.

After the Atlantis flood, it was the Sumerians (culture was provided by advanced beings, ie Reptilian Annunaki), Egyptians, Babylon. They were ruled all with the same bloodline of the Annunaki and continue this day.

The Sumerians had an advanced knowledge network and Sumerians artifacts actually depicting the Solar System!

But this is my answer, Atlantis because the whole planet was higher dimensional.

I recommend reading David Icke and David Wilcock

apocolips31
06-02-2008, 06:03 PM
lol! America does not have the best technology, period. Japan does. Also America is not the world power, i'd say Israel or china would be the world power, with the US coming a close third. The US just recently became powerful (after WWII). Like it or not, the world does not revolve around America, as much as some countries would like to replicate it. Thats not to say that America is insignificant, i just think to be calling it the "Atlantis of our age" is FAR off from the truth. Hey i love the country i live in (Canada) and i would love nothing more then to say "Canada is the modern day Atlantis", but looking at the facts in an unbiased point of view, sadly Canada is not, nor is America for that matter.

Oh i would also like to add i disagree with America having the most freedoms out of any place in the world, this may sound biased but i honestly do believe that Canada does have more freedom then the US and who knows, Canada is probably beaten by some other Country.
Wow lol! Dude we have every technology Japan has....... that is where we get a lot of it. What do you think they do make it and not sell it to profit? That is how Japan survives by selling technology. We do have the most advanced weapons technology thou. Also China having the biggest army in the world doesn't make it the super power of the world. America has the best all around military with training,logistics,technology,equipment,and money. We spend over 500 billion a year on our military how can we not have the best lol....... It would be sad if we didn't. Like a poster above said Israel is VERY reliant on the USA for money and weapons. While Israel is a regional power saying they could rank 2nd in the world above the USA....... is very laughable. Where do you get your information might I ask?

budbuddy420
06-03-2008, 01:44 AM
id prolly have to say the galapogos islands for the vast variety of animals and darwins theory of natural selection and evolution, or vancouver (where i live) because weed is not legal yet everyone soo chill that u can smoke it wherever, its where the north america marijuana legalization revolution is going to be based

Hi my name is....
06-03-2008, 03:51 AM
Wow lol! Dude we have every technology Japan has....... that is where we get a lot of it. What do you think they do make it and not sell it to profit? That is how Japan survives by selling technology. We do have the most advanced weapons technology thou. Also China having the biggest army in the world doesn't make it the super power of the world. America has the best all around military with training,logistics,technology,equipment,and money. We spend over 500 billion a year on our military how can we not have the best lol....... It would be sad if we didn't. Like a poster above said Israel is VERY reliant on the USA for money and weapons. While Israel is a regional power saying they could rank 2nd in the world above the USA....... is very laughable. Where do you get your information might I ask?
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typical paranoid american, good on you for sticking up for your country but you just proved why an American city would not be the icon city of the world, because of the one eyed veiw you have of the world, the world isnt all about armies and technology, its about how people interact with each other and come together as a whole, being able to be consious of other cultures and learning from these different cultures and societies, taking peices of personalities and values that you meet to put together your life jigsaw, haha sounds pretty airy fairy but its true, if you say it isnt true maybe your just scared of opening your other eye because you think you have been right all along and it is too late for you, you will never be able to experience anything out of your comfort zone, and saying america is the land of the free is true to an extent but you are controlled by your media and pop culture(money)to name a few, in a much subtle but equally as devious way, as say afghantnistan was controlled by the taliban. Now sorry if i sound anti-american, im not it has amazing qualities, nice people and done wonderful things as with pretty much every other country on earth, im just anti one eyed, ignorant, fools, they come from every country, but it just seems alot of americans tend to fall into this catogary and i would blame this on the power of your media(money) to which it holds over you. sorry for being so long and drawn out.

Coelho
06-03-2008, 04:39 AM
I think to choose only one city which were the representative of mankind in that age would be impossible to do today... the developement of the world greatest cities is not so different from one to another to say that there is only one city which could represent all the mankind... there are different things that are considered important (as technology, culture, history, etc) and this things are spread around the entire world. It is not like in the ages of Greece and Rome, when everything was centralized in only one city and country... today everything is much "globalized", and so more equal, less "important" than everything else...

dragonrider
06-03-2008, 08:15 AM
i like all the responses so far, they have been rather varied, but let me push it more towards what i was meaning, so if you had to pick a city where you could define the world's presence eminating from it, like athens or rome were the cities to live in in those eras, what would ours be now, i would call new york city the defining city of the 20th century, because it was pretty much what decided what happened, with wall street and the depression, and the 20th century being a time of great economical expansion for the world.

but its interesting to hear of religious cities as the ones for now, i agree with jerusalem, mecca, the vatican all that, but its interesting, it seems that this century will be dominated by religious strife, or peace, but at the moment it seems that religion is turning the world on its shoulders, yet the religious cities are the place to be, i myself like jerusalem the most, i want to visit it someday, it has a very interesting history, and it is in the most interesting region in the world at the moment, no matter how unstable.

This is an interesting point you make about what will be the defining cities of the next century, of NOW. If I had to choose 10 years ago, I would probably have said New York too, for all the reasons Metaphor said...


New York City. Its the most diverse city on this planet. Theres so many different races of people living together. Theres wall street and theres ghettos. Zoos, aquariums, ball parks, bodegas, subways, drugs, parks, ice skating, big christmas trees, statues of liberties, stadiums, ground zero, grafitti, clubs, bars, 24 hour delis, industrial areas, junkyards, the new years ball, nypd, like 8 bridges, all different types of food on the same block, beautiful women, museums, public transportation, one dollar ke-babs, bong shops, all kinds of shops, art, music, china town, junkies and fiends, blue collar, white collar, black, white, asian, spanish, middle eastern, latino, indian, jewish. Theres a bit of everything, Its the place where people come to make something with their lives. there is just no place like it. and if you deny that then you've never been here.

... and part of the reason would have been that the 20th century was definitely the American Century, and our greatest and most diverse cities might have been considered defining for that era. Now I think the rest of the world is rising very rapidly. It's not that America is necessarily declining, but the rest are rising. The next century will not be an American Century. For most of the last half of this century America has told other countries to be more like us, at least in how you are governed and run --- be democratic, be free-market, be responsible governments, be fiscally responsible, invest in your education, invest in your infrastructure. Many have done so, and are on a fast rise economically. America should be proud that it is the triumph of our best values that have led to a lot of prosperity around the world, but it might actually be hard for us to accept as other countries rise to our level. America will have to deal with the fact that it soon will not be the center of the world. I don't know where the next iconic "Atlantis" will be, but porbably in Asia or Central America or South America. Or maybe the world will have no "center," and it will be impossible to pick just one.

Nightcrewman
06-03-2008, 03:53 PM
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4twentE
06-05-2008, 03:20 AM
It depends on what you're looking for. A "landmark" city of Christianity might be Jerusalem. A "landmark" city of technology might be Tokyo or Singapore. And so on...

Halcyon420
06-05-2008, 10:18 AM
I'd have to go with LONDON or NEW YORK



We are also directly in the middle of the map! (London):


Everyones in the middle of the map dude, just depends where the maps made.

IE. maps in America I believe Washington is in the center etc...


Anyways Manchesters way better than London lol :jointsmile: