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wangman
05-27-2008, 09:59 AM
I decided to start a new thread since I have overcome the problems I had when I first started

I cant remember the exact date that it sprouted but Iā??ll keep on updating with pics as they come along

1st pic taken 17/4/08

2nd pic taken 6/5/08

3rd pic taken 23/5/08

4th pic taken 27/5/08

5th pic gives a idea of size vs some common nail siscors

wangman
05-27-2008, 10:02 AM
though i'd also post up this pic

I topped the plant twice since I have limited room for it to grow up

Normaly you get 2 new shoots however this time 4 sprouted :thumbsup:

hydrocannabis
05-27-2008, 11:09 PM
UR plant looks great.

wangman
05-27-2008, 11:32 PM
Cheers hydro :)

Anyone think its time to repot?

hydrocannabis
05-28-2008, 01:45 AM
It looks like it might be close to being ready to be repotted.

but thats just me. I'd wate to see what other ppl here think U should do.

:thumbsup:

wangman
05-28-2008, 04:21 AM
Well considoring I have today off I decided to go and transplant it into something bigger

judging by the root system on the plant when I cut away the old pot it was time to transplant anyway

wangman
05-28-2008, 07:58 AM
ok grow box has had a renovation and had a 2nd level added :P

before and after

justanotherbozo
05-28-2008, 12:14 PM
Well considoring I have today off I decided to go and transplant it into something bigger

judging by the root system on the plant when I cut away the old pot it was time to transplant anyway

if not, you either need to drill some holes or re-transplant into something with drainage, every time you water you should water until about 20% runs out the bottom of the pot.

anyway, good to see you added a second story, good luck man.

wangman
05-28-2008, 01:32 PM
if not, you either need to drill some holes or re-transplant into something with drainage, every time you water you should water until about 20% runs out the bottom of the pot.

anyway, good to see you added a second story, good luck man.

I drillled 5 or 6 holes in the new pot/container and made sure that water could get out easily however i might add a few more just for insurance

@ the moment i have 4 pavers "bricks" on top of each other to get the plant up to the height it needs to be to get close enough to the lights

Under the container/pot i have a drip tray to catch any water run off

justanotherbozo
05-28-2008, 04:29 PM
if that container that you turned into a pot had a lid, you can use that as a drip tray, you might have to glue some feet on the bottom of the 'pot'.

wangman
06-12-2008, 01:02 AM
Update pic

Im sure its a female as i can see some white hairs on the plant and fortunatly no Balls

its just that its a real pain in the ass to try and photograph them

Im considoring topping the 3 tallest nodes in order to give the others some time to catch up to the same height as well as giving me more nodes ;)

wangman
06-19-2008, 01:01 PM
Some updated pics

I topped the 5 tallest nodes 3 days ago and can see some new growth shoots coming up as well as @ least 2 new branches starting to grow on the 5 tallest nodes 1 set of leaves below the top

I will let this new growth continue untill each one has grown a set of new leaves and will then turn on the 12/12 light cycle

I expect to be doing this within the next 1 to 2 weeks

still havent seen any real evidence of pre flowers yet I believe i can see some white hairs on it but they look more green than white so this could just be more veg growth i guess in the next 2 to 3 weeks im going to know for sure what I have here

wangman
06-19-2008, 01:06 PM
Also one of the nodes "smaller one that sprung from the main stem" is producing 3 fan leaves compared to the regular 2, none of the other nodes are like this

I did a quick search and it seems like some gene thing however the pics i'v found on the net seem to show that every node on the plant is like this. On mine however its only one where every other 10 or so nodes are fine

Ragey1
06-19-2008, 06:40 PM
your plants looking great, hope its a female.

ps: what strain is she/he:weedpoke:

wangman
06-23-2008, 11:01 AM
Well its sprouted some white hairs now and i cant see any balls

Grew from bag seed so not sure on the strain but its a sativa of some sort

temps have been getting cool @ night the last few days might hold off the 12 hour cycle untill it starts to get a bit warmer temps are getting down to like 8 deg

hydrocannabis
06-23-2008, 02:28 PM
she looks so fine that I really wanna make her mine.:D

wangman
07-02-2008, 12:28 PM
Update time

I havent had any internet for the last couple of weeks so its been a bit hard to post updates

Plant is coming along well and I have decided to go to the 12 hour light cycle today because if it veges any longer its going to get way to big for the box

pics as follows show overall shot of the plant + some pre flowers + my tri leaf mutant stem that popped out

I have for the moment swapped 3 of my 6500k cfl's for 3 2700k cfls

in the pic of the lights the 6500k ones are the thiner but longer looking spirals i have spaced them out this way to give more even light

I was thinking of going all my 6 lights to the 2700k cfls in a week or so or should i just put them all in now?

The 2700k lights are going to be better for flowering right? than the veg 6500k ones?

twitch
07-02-2008, 04:14 PM
that is looking good

and about ur light question.. yes

kRoNikLy420
07-03-2008, 02:02 AM
Looking good man. My 2 cents though, when transplanting I always make sure the new pot is deeper to allow new soil under roots and make sure to fill the container to the top with soil. I was thinking it looked like top of your roots are above the soil.
Plant is looking amazing though...checkout my cfl grow i got going.
Good job, keep it up.:thumbsup:

hydrocannabis
07-03-2008, 04:27 AM
shes lookin buddy. 4 :greenthumb: way up.

wangman
07-03-2008, 10:16 AM
that is looking good

and about ur light question.. yes

ok then going to change all lights to the warm white 2700k cfls 2morow morning


Looking good man. My 2 cents though, when transplanting I always make sure the new pot is deeper to allow new soil under roots and make sure to fill the container to the top with soil. I was thinking it looked like top of your roots are above the soil.
Plant is looking amazing though...checkout my cfl grow i got going.
Good job, keep it up.:thumbsup:

Cheers for the responce, I am very limited with the height I have available due to the size of my box setup which is why the pot "container" I have used is shallow but @ the same time long and wide to compensate... I'll throw on some more potting mix in the next day or 2. iv been reluctent to add any more because there are these little flying bug things that live in the potting mix i have which fortunatly dont seem to eat the plant but i ready didint want to add any more or use pestercide. they usualy just fly into the small water container i have in there and drown although they never seem to die out

had a quick skim over ur setup looks wicked makes me wish i had more room but for my 1st grow im happy the way things are turning out


shes lookin buddy. 4 :greenthumb: way up.

cheers mate

wangman
07-07-2008, 08:41 AM
I recon that since i changed from 24hours of 6500k cfls to the 12 hour 2700k clf's the bloody things been growing taller @ about twice the rate it was before

Im going to have to get another box and put it on top or something....

hydrocannabis
07-08-2008, 04:25 AM
I had grown in the same small thing as U R. but then I had to build this thing cuz my plants getting to big for the other grow box..

hydrocannabis
07-08-2008, 04:33 AM
oops I just now saw that U have alreaty built a bigger box back some time ago.

well good luck getting something bigger.


also mine was made so it can be lifted higher for taller flowerinf strains.

wangman
07-11-2008, 06:39 AM
Been a while but didint have anything exciting to post

Plants been on the 12/12 cycle for 9 days now and i can see more white hairs poping up all over her

apart from that the tri leaf node has become the tallest node

Heres a pic of the new box sporting its 3rd level and one of the top of the plant

wangman
07-15-2008, 05:18 AM
Well its day 14 of 12/12

from what i can tell everything seems to be going as it should

anyhow heres a few more pics of the plant with some budds coming along nicley

in one of the pics u can see a leaf with what looks like a rust spot dont worry, that happend a week or so ago when the plant decided it would grow like 2 inches in 1 night and it touched one of the lights

cactusman23
07-15-2008, 01:49 PM
Nice looking grow wangman

hydrocannabis
07-15-2008, 06:56 PM
dammmm wang man she looks killer.
but whats up with the lil cup/bowl I see that sits there on top of soil?

wangman
07-16-2008, 12:07 AM
That bowl has some water in it to help keep the humidity up

cheers for comments guys cant wait to see the end result, might not be as much yeild as others but its an all CFL grow :)

kRoNikLy420
07-16-2008, 12:52 AM
Looking great..Moving along quite nicely I see. Looking very healthy. Keep it up. :thumbsup: You might think about some extra "side" supplemental light to penetrate to the lowers..If your box will allow. My yeild will suffer, the tops are nice but the rest is gonna be tiny. Its sad.

wangman
07-16-2008, 01:27 AM
unfortunatly box is pretty crammed for space as it is without the plant touching the lights, im only doing this for fun and for some personal smoke so I wont be devestated if yeild is a bit low

I think its pretty cool that the mutant tri leaf node has become the largest even though it just sprouted out the side of the plant by itself halfway through the grow

wangman
07-18-2008, 09:58 AM
Well when i awoke this morning to visit my girl i noticed that the tri leaf top had once again grown faster than i expected over night and a little of the bud leaf had got sligltly cooked by the light

the other thing which pissed me off was that due to its significant height over the over tops it was making it harder for me to get the lights @ an ideal distance from the other tops so i decided enough was enough and i tied it down

Flowzies
07-18-2008, 10:31 AM
Hey wangman can u send me some scematics on how to build ur original grow box?

hydrocannabis
07-18-2008, 02:28 PM
:thumbsup: shes looking great.

wangman
07-18-2008, 10:18 PM
tie down seems to have been a sucess the tri top has moved its top to face the right way ;)

Flowiez

All you need can be found in your local hardware store or $2 shop

I simply looked for 2 plastic boxes that were the tallest in the shop

got some door hinges to join them together so i can open it up for easy access

Got a computer power supply which i hotwired to run 24/7

Got a large case fan

Got a hot glue gun which i used to glue the case fan onto a hole i cut on the side of the box for the case/exhaust fan

also got a bit of plumbing for the inlet and exhaust hole to reduce the amount of light getting leaked out of the box not that the amount i used did all that much ... hot glue again

and last but not least i got as many lights as i could fit in there and bolted them to the top of the box

dont forget to paint the inside of ur box flat white 2 that helps the light bounce around inside the box

wangman
07-18-2008, 10:19 PM
tie

Flowzies
07-19-2008, 12:53 AM
hey thanks wangman ill keep ya posted.:thumbsup:

wangman
07-22-2008, 01:51 AM
Day 20 since i turned the lights to 12/12

Everything from what i can tell is going the way it should

mutant node is not under controll since being tied down, one of the good things about this is because its now tied over the smaller buds growing out from the leaves on the stem are getting a lot more light

Would it be worth while to tie down the other stems in a similar way to let more light reach the lower buds which would then be @ at similar height to the tops?

wangman
07-25-2008, 12:05 AM
Hit her up with some nutes yesterday

going to try and put another light in the box @ the bottom to better penetrate the bottom buds

also going to tie down the mutant stem in another way where it is bending to the right so its got more room as its touching the side of the box

hydrocannabis
07-25-2008, 12:19 AM
looken real nice.

IwannaGrowMaryJ
07-25-2008, 04:06 PM
What kind is that???

Looks great!!:smokebong::bigsmoke::vap_smiley::postexcus eme:

richardweedster
07-25-2008, 04:16 PM
nice plant man....:)

richardweedster
07-25-2008, 04:18 PM
nice plant man....:)......................

richardweedster
07-25-2008, 04:19 PM
nice plant man....:))))

richardweedster
07-25-2008, 04:21 PM
nice plant man....:::) sorry ower posted im so smoked up....

wangman
07-30-2008, 12:54 PM
Ok couple pics from 28-7

Iv stuck another light in the box in the only place i could fit it to help the lower buds

I'v also noticed 1 or 2 red hairs on some of the buds but everything else is white

hydrocannabis
07-31-2008, 02:15 AM
she looks real good now. here have 13 of these :thumbsup:.

wangman
07-31-2008, 08:44 AM
cheers hydro

cant wait till shes harvested and dried

thinking imight re veg it

wangman
08-01-2008, 03:17 AM
Day 30 flowering

re tied the plants big stem again in a better pos also gave some of the leaves a manicure to get more light to some of the buds that were getting blocked out

You can see some of the hairs turning red/brown now

dgsgandalf
08-03-2008, 07:29 PM
Hey man, lookin good! To answer your question a few posts back about bending all the branches to get light to the bottom buds, yes, that does work and will greatly increase your yield for a single plant. However, it's probably too late in the flowering cycle to bend any more branches this time. Once you start the flowering cycle, branches loose their flexibility and become rigid to help support the buds.
Next time feel free to bend as many branches as you want during veg to get lower budding sites more light. This strategy is especially good if you only have 1 or 2 plants.
Well, good luck man! Keep up the good work.
Peace

wangman
08-04-2008, 01:22 PM
day 33 some of the buds are looking nice and frosty mind u its all clear @ the moment not turning amber/milky yet

more of the hairs are turning red

plant is starting to get more smelly

wangman
08-08-2008, 01:35 AM
Buds beyone HD day 37

wangman
08-08-2008, 01:37 AM
i was pretty happy these pics came out ok considoring i was using a 2 year old 7mp camera thats nothing flash:rastasmoke:

Revanche21
08-08-2008, 01:55 AM
looks delicious!

hydrocannabis
08-08-2008, 07:06 AM
thouse buds look fucken nice and cristaly brotha.

So is that a bagseed plant or a strain U ordered?

well U have done a great job thus far. so keep up the great work and u'll be very happy in the end.:thumbsup:

wangman
08-08-2008, 11:10 AM
Cheers Revanche and Hydro

Its a bagseed grow so unfortunatly I have no idea what strain it is but id suspect its a hybrid mix of indica and sativa mabe something like 40% indica and 60% sativa since it never had fat leaves and at the same time they wernt super thin

It was also a bit slow to grow, could have been due to the age of the seed? not to mention that it started out life outdoors

Im going to order a microscope off e-bay and hopefully it should get to me in the next few days as none of the local shops here stock anything better than a 5x magnifine glass..... :(

from what read on the net flowering can take from 50 to 90+ days so im guessing iv got @ a minimun another 13 days to go before harvest ;)_S

wangman
08-13-2008, 10:43 AM
I pulled the plant out of the box for a quick check over and if you'v read the other thread i posted I noticed some ball things on my buds which i think are the start of a few seeds :(

Or are they false seed pods??

I pray that they are as I looked over my plant througherly and could not find any bannana things or male flowers anywhere

I did find some strange things which you will see in the 1st pic but they have been there every since the plant 1st showed its sex and havent changed much and have had hair come out of them in the past

wangman
08-13-2008, 10:52 AM
Anyhow I went all over the plant and removed all of the things that were on it that can be seen on the 1st pic

Iv chopped off the 2 buds that had the balls on them as they were tiny anyway and I dont want my plant putting its energy into any kind of seed production

I squeezed one of the ball/seed/pod things and a clear liquid came out but thats about all

All other buds, most importantly the tops appear to be fine with no sign of balls or swelling

will check plant every 2nd day for new growths

wangman
08-13-2008, 01:22 PM
decided to do the quick dry microwave methord on one of the ball buds i cut off

Iv got to say for the 1 cone I had which was 1/2 bud leaf to actual bud iv got a pretty lite relaxed stone ;)

wangman
08-14-2008, 07:58 AM
Nice shot of one of the tops

mmmm tricombs....

Wish my e-bay microscope would hurry up and get here

Ordered it on Sat ud think it would be bere by now today being Thursday

hydrocannabis
08-14-2008, 02:52 PM
hell yah that bud looks great as hell.

wangman
08-15-2008, 07:16 AM
well my ebay microscope arrived today

its a bit hard to use on the buds so i decided to trim a tiny 1mm piece off and have a look on a flat level non moving surface

so far im seeing a mixture of clear and milky tricombs no rusty ones yet but then again plant hasent been flowering long enough yet

iv posted up some pics which look pretty crap but its super hard to take a photo using the microscope

epilepticme
08-16-2008, 01:18 PM
Amazing thread... you have given me inspiration!

I can not wait to see what the total yield is.

wangman
08-17-2008, 01:21 AM
day 46

Had a good look over the plant again and could not find any male flowers anywhere :thumbsup:

I did find another swolen calax on one of the tops all by itself when I was cutting away some dead leaf which I hadent noticed before due to the position of the bud

But apart from that nothing else

Im posting another pic of one of the false seed pods that I left on a popcorn bud down the bottom of the plant... looks to green to be a seed considoring its allready split open the calax

Also posting a pic of the plant with a pepsi can so theres a better guide of what the scale the size of everything is

hydrocannabis
08-17-2008, 01:54 AM
lookin great bro. U got a pic of the top cola with lights off.:thumbsup:

wangman
08-17-2008, 04:35 AM
lookin great bro. U got a pic of the top cola with lights off.:thumbsup:

As requested

1st pic is not the crown but the tallest cola you can see in the other pic in my previous post to the far right no flash used

the other pic is of one of the smaller tops pretty much dead centre in the pic in the previous post flash used

anbesol
08-17-2008, 04:54 AM
WOW!!!!

hydrocannabis
08-17-2008, 07:40 AM
she's looking great as hell.:thumbsup:

wangman
08-20-2008, 09:37 AM
Day 49

Plants smell is getting stronger

Had a look under the microscope again today probaly about 70% milky 30% clear tricombs

Buds are nice and frosty

2 pics uploaded one with flash the other with no flash

wangman
08-23-2008, 10:33 AM
Did a light flush yesterday using about 3L of water

Also picked off one of the more mature looking popcorn buds and quick dried it in the microwave, "yes i know that sounds crazy but it works just remember to use low or med low for no more than 5 to 7 secs @ a time and to move the bud and wipe up the moisture"

Worked a treat got me nice and stoned for a good couple of hours :stoned:

Had another look under the microscope at the tricombs

looks like 95% of them are cloudy with about 4% clear and 1% rusty

I think another 2 weeks would make it even better but unfortunatly I am going to have to harvest @ the end of the month due to someone moving into the room I have been using to grow in

so the total flowering time will have been 60 days or just over 8 and a 1/2 weeks

I will do another flush on the 26th

Anyone got some hints on what to do besides flushing during the last week before harvest?

winwintony
08-25-2008, 08:30 PM
whatz good? i stay in chicago,and this will be my frist time growing,can you give me some tip on how to build a grow box like the one you have on the pic[[[[[[im try to grow 2-4 plants

wangman
08-27-2008, 01:43 AM
whatz good? i stay in chicago,and this will be my frist time growing,can you give me some tip on how to build a grow box like the one you have on the pic[[[[[[im try to grow 2-4 plants

I dont think my box will be big enough for 2 to 4 plants maybe 2 @ max if you dont let them 2 long before you flower them

All you need is a hot glue gun, hinges, plumbing PVC pipe, flat white paint, computer power suppply, computer case fan/s, 2 to 3 boxes depending on how tall you want to make it, knife and a jijsaw if you are going to stack 3 boxes to cut out the bottoms of 2 boxes

Then fill with as many CFL's as you can

There are lots of other threads on the fourms here with lots of helpfull info

wangman
08-31-2008, 09:28 AM
Harvest time soon :) :rastasmoke:

hydrocannabis
08-31-2008, 06:45 PM
woo hoo dog. looken fucken very nice.

godzilla63
09-01-2008, 12:23 AM
Harvest time soon :) :rastasmoke:

Read your thread today. (Newbie just registered)

Your plant look awesome. Using cfl's too! I'm amazed. I'm looking forward to seeing what she yields.

Regards from Schenectady, NY.

:clap:

dgsgandalf
09-01-2008, 06:21 PM
For my part, those balls you have pictured above are def seeds. I had some problems with male plants pollinating my outdoor plants too and that's basically what it looked like. Just make sure you don't have any hermy flowers on your plant anywhere.

For the last week of flowering, you can do a big flush then water with 1tbsp/gal no sulfur molasses. This will provide the plant with some good energy in the end without the taste of fertilizer. I'm not an expert on this method, but look around a little on the forums for examples, because it definitely works.

Good luck!
Peace

wangman
09-02-2008, 10:27 AM
The ball things turned out to be seeds but iv got no idea how it happend i could not find any male flowers on the plant anywhere so its got me stumped

fortunatly I only ended up with 2 seeds 1 on one of the popcorn buds and one on one of my tops

LXXXVII
09-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Got any pix of the harvest? Or the finished weight?
Im so tempted to try a method like this. Thanks for the inspiration! :smokin:

wangman
09-14-2008, 02:57 PM
ok guys been a while

Anyhow harvest has been and gone

wet weight was 105g or 3.7 oz

dry weight was 27g or .95 oz

Smoke is pretty good only need one genorusly packed cone to get nice and high.

Id rate it 7 out of 10

its more a 65% head highf to 35% body stone but it dose the trick

if I had time to wait another week it would have been more of a even mix but I didint have the time

I know its not a huge harvest compared to others on this site but its more than enough to last me 1/2 a year if not longer

I made a batch of muffins with all the leaf and trimmings/stems I had collected

Didint do that much to me but made a friend throw up and pass out so I guess my body is more chem resistant than hers was

anyhow heres a pick of the green salid before it was dried

Happy growing people

godzilla63
09-16-2008, 12:13 AM
:D :rasta:

Definitely worth the effort, I'd say. I think your herb was mainly sativa, just as you figured and that would account for the slightly lower yield, as well as the fact that it was grown under cfl's. But I think, all things considered, you did awesome.

Kudos to you, man. You sold me on CFL's. :dance::dance:

edub325
09-18-2008, 03:24 AM
Wow I am trying same method friend gave me almost dead plant am trying to bring back but don't have much room.any sugg. Props on the crops

wangman
09-18-2008, 08:37 AM
Wow I am trying same method friend gave me almost dead plant am trying to bring back but don't have much room.any sugg. Props on the crops

Only suggestion is to have a look through my thread @ what I did

Make sure you have plenty of room in the box before you go to 12/12 cus the plant just about doubles in size and grows like twice as fast and you can run out of room

wangman
02-24-2009, 01:52 PM
just re read my old thread, makes me want to do another grow

Loafyboy
02-24-2009, 03:10 PM
just re read my old thread, makes me want to do another grow

Don't think about it....just do it :D

Great log BTW, especially considering you were using CFL's! :thumbsup:

Make sure you do another log for your upcoming grow........you know you want too :jointsmile:

BigLeagueJew
04-03-2009, 01:36 AM
Just read it. This is extremely similar to what i'm doing right now and gave me inspiration. I encourage you to do another grow.