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Psycho4Bud
05-23-2008, 01:23 PM
While the media offers mostly images of violence, and many Americans have grown weary of the war in Iraq, I bring hopeful news to Washington this week as I meet with the administration and members of Congress.

Since 2003, we have built the Kurdistan Region as a model for democracy and a gateway for development for all of Iraq. We are willing partners in this transition toward an Iraqi government that is representative of all its people. Through our peshmerga forces, we provide some of the most effective units against al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. We Kurds are committed to a federal, democratic Iraq at peace within its borders and with its neighbours.

We are working with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the Iraqi leadership in Baghdad on the difficult issues facing our country. Our relationship with Iraq's federal government has never been better. And progress is being made on an oil law, the status of disputed territories, the proper role for Iraq's neighbours to play, and on relations between the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and Turkey.

First, the oil law. We will now start negotiations using a draft drawn up in February of 2007. We'll also establish a process to send the national oil law, the revenue sharing law, and the laws concerning the Iraqi National Oil Company and the Oil Ministry in Baghdad to parliament as one package â?? to be voted up or down.

New oil contracts will be approved based on agreed-upon guidelines. The oil exploration contracts the KRG has already signed won't present a problem, because they were negotiated based on the highest standards of transparency.

There is also progress in settling the status of Kirkuk and other disputed territories. Previous Iraqi regimes expelled Kurds, Turkmen and Christians from Kirkuk, and gerrymandered provincial borders to change its demography. Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution establishes a legal process to remedy this injustice. We are encouraged that the United Nations Special Representative of the Secretary General is helping to develop a proposal regarding the implementation of Article 140.

As we resolve internal issues, we also understand the importance of a peaceful relationship with all our neighbours, based on mutual respect and noninterference in internal affairs.

To that end, we will continue reassuring our neighbours that a federal Iraq is not a threat. But we will also continue to encourage our neighbours to do what they can to stop terrorists from infiltrating Iraq.

We think it is imperative that Middle Eastern states send their diplomatic representatives to Iraq, and for these states to proactively prevent terrorists from slipping across their borders. Unprovoked and recurring bombardment of the Kurdistan Region by Turkey and Iran must stop.

There has also been a historic step forward in KRG-Turkish relations. On May 1, I represented my government in the first high-level, official bilateral meeting with Turkey. Held in Baghdad, the meeting was conducted in a cordial atmosphere, and both sides stressed similar views on a wide range of issues. We reiterated to our Turkish colleagues our commitment to good neighbourly relations, which is underscored by the growing Turkish investment in the Kurdistan Region. Our talks also focused on the need for practical steps and continued dialogue on all outstanding issues, including the problem of the PKK.

We Kurds understand and share America's frustration with the pace of political progress in Iraq. We are doing all we can to create security, stability and prosperity. While progress has not come fast enough, Iraq remains a worthy cause.

As Americans debate the future of the US role in Iraq, allow me to say that America's mission remains vital to the stability and security of our region. A precipitous withdrawal of US forces could be calamitous. We welcome a US presence in the Kurdistan Region as part of any redeployment of forces.

The Kurdish people of Iraq suffered under Saddam Hussein. And we fought and died alongside Americans to liberate our country. There is no ambiguity about the depth of gratitude that Kurds feel for America's sacrifices in Iraq. Americans who have been killed or wounded in Iraq are heroes to me and to all of Iraq's Kurds. We will never forget what you have done for us.

Mr Barzani is prime minister of the Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq.
Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) (http://www.krg.org/articles/detail.asp?lngnr=12&smap=02010200&rnr=73&anr=24289)

Great article in my book. I've also seen that violence in Iraq is down by 70%. At this pace it will be hard for the Dems to talk of Iraq due to their past stances on "quagmire" and "civil war".

Have a good one!:s4:

killerweed420
05-23-2008, 05:01 PM
Can't disagree that progress has been made, which is good. But at what cost and how long till the islamists totally infiltrate the Iraqi government again? We already know they hold some key positions in the government.

swice1
05-23-2008, 09:24 PM
progress made now onto iran!

killerweed420
05-23-2008, 11:37 PM
I also wonder if the progress in Iraq isn't more a factor of al qaeda pulling in its horns and waiting for our election. They know that when the dems win they are going to be left alone more so they may be just waiting.

fishman3811
05-24-2008, 01:39 AM
LOL P4B you should be the press secretary for the president.I guess all the Iraqs who have fled their country will be coming back in droves.Next thing you know the president will be landing on an aircraft carrier proclaiming mission acclomplished AGAIN......

Psycho4Bud
05-24-2008, 02:41 AM
"press secretary for the president" Psycho4bud now makes an important announcement:

Since G.W. pulled his head out of his ass and listened to people on the same brain wave as J. McCain that know how to handle a military situation....we have made GREAT progress in Iraq by crushing Al-Quada and taming down the sectarian violence. Thank you for your time and as always......

Have a good one!:s4:

killerweed420
05-24-2008, 06:13 PM
"press secretary for the president" Psycho4bud now makes an important announcement:

Since G.W. pulled his head out of his ass and listened to people on the same brain wave as J. McCain that know how to handle a military situation....we have made GREAT progress in Iraq by crushing Al-Quada and taming down the sectarian violence. Thank you for your time and as always......

Have a good one!:s4:
Yeah but have we crushed al quaeda or are they just laying low till after the election when the dems are in power?

fishman3811
05-24-2008, 09:41 PM
I think peace in Iraq is a long ways off whether or not America can pull it of is another story.

DaBudhaStank
05-25-2008, 12:14 AM
I don't know why people still believe in peace; it boggles my mind. Peace works on very, VERY small levels, that's it. There will never EVER be peace in Iraq, let alone anywhere in the world. If anyone thinks otherwise, you're too naive to still be left alive.

Psycho4Bud
05-25-2008, 03:32 AM
The U.S. ambassador to Iraq said Saturday that al-Qaida's network in the country has never been closer to defeat, and he praised Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki for his moves to rein in Shiite and Sunni militant groups.

Ryan Crocker's comments came as Iraqi forces have been conducting crackdowns on al-Qaida militants in the northern city of Mosul and on Shiite militiamen in the southern city of Basra. Thousands of Iraqi forces also moved into the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City in Baghdad last week imposing control for the first time in years.
US ambassador: Al-Qaida close to defeat in Iraq - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080524/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq)

It still may not be roses and sunshine but anyone would have to admit that it's a hell of alot better than a year ago. Once again at this rate, "some people" may look a bit foolish in November.

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
05-25-2008, 03:53 AM
You guys keep lowering the bar though,Al Quada wasnt in Iraq until after you invaded soo you guys are the cause of your own problems.

ldg420
05-25-2008, 10:10 AM
You guys keep lowering the bar

the Iraqis are just aren't adjusting quickly as we wanted, so we in turn have to adjust our goals in accordance with their pace of liberation.........:stoned:



Al Quada wasnt in Iraq until after you invaded

regardless, will you at least admit that they are there now? shouldn't we do our best to destroy them? or should we leave now only to return later when al qaeda gets even stronger in iraq? the most logical solution is to finish the job while we are there!!!!!!!!!!!:stoned:

AspenGrow
05-25-2008, 04:37 PM
Ah, but you all forget that Al Queda wasn't even in Iraq until after we came in, disbanded the national army, and took the "bad man" Saddam out of power because he had WMD's which we still haven't found any evidence of.

Psycho4Bud
05-25-2008, 05:30 PM
LOL....the way people talk you'd swear to God we air-dropped Al-Quada into the region. They saw an opportunity to make some headway and found that we weren't going to cut and run. Due to that, many of them have met their goal; say "Hey" to Allah from the rest of the sane people on earth.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

killerweed420
05-25-2008, 07:46 PM
You guys keep lowering the bar though,Al Quada wasnt in Iraq until after you invaded soo you guys are the cause of your own problems.

Yeah but we're so good at it.

Gandalf_The_Grey
05-26-2008, 10:12 PM
I'd just like to point out that if the US had left Iraq alone, we might actually have the troops and resources necessary to finally defeat the real threat, the Taliban (whom are quite openly in league with AlQaeda). Afghanistan still has only 60,000 mulit-national troops fighting for the destabalized territory, which is short of the other 60,000 that both Canadian and American generals (probably others) are calling for. With over 145,000 US troops still fighting hard to control Iraq, somehow I think we could have instituted more than enough troops to bring freedom to the Afghani people and a good ass-kickin' to AlQaeda and the Taliban (though honestly, sometimes I wonder if the government actually wants Al Qaeda obliterated, or just supressed enough to keep the people indefinately afraid).


BTW, Saddam Hussein and Osama BinLaden hated and publicly insulted each other. Hussein's government kept both Sharia law and Al Qaeda out of his country; now we'll have to see if this new weakened Iraqi nation can hold either at bay for generations to come.

epxroot
05-26-2008, 11:54 PM
Hate to bust this great bubble of hope, but.....

"We Can't Win"

In one of the first substantive comments Rumsfeld makes, the second clip from the top (0:36), he explains carefully that while the USA is involved in asymmetric warfare, we can't lose militarily--but we can't win militarily, either. Oh, gee, THANKS Mr. Rumsfeld! Now you tell us? Somebody owes somebody like Senators Harry Reid and Joe Biden a great big fat apology, since that's exactly what they've been arguing for years now, to sharp rebuke from Administration spokespersons for "defeatism." But it's the end of that clip that's the real kick in the rear. "We aren't going to go around the world for the numbers of years it took Algeria, for example, to subdue an insurgency," he declares. Oh, yeah? Maybe he better tell that to Senator McCain, who seems to have his heart set on a new Hundred Years War.

Syngman Rhee

The third clip (2:01) is very, very intriguing. One of the analysts (it's impossible in most instances to figure out who the questioner is) suggests pointedly to Rumsfeld that Iraq needs a Syngman Rhee. Rhee, if you are unaware, was the ruthless authoritarian dictator of South Korea from after World War II through the Korean War to 1960. Yeah, he was a son of @!$%#, but he was our son of a @!$%#, to borrow a phrase Franklin Roosevelt said of Somoza. Well, well, well. So much for "democracy," huh? But the special treat in this little clip--before Rumsfeld wistfully closes by bemoaning the fact that Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki is "no Syngman Rhee"--is the way Rumsfeld utterly trashes Maliki's predecessor Ibrahim al-Jaafari, calling him a "wind sock."

Looks like our Government has other things in store.
Also has the audio right from the horses mouth.
Newsvine - Correctly Political: Liquid Lunch with Donald Rumsfeld (http://jfxgillis.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/12/1482373-correctly-political-liquid-lunch-with-donald-rumsfeld)

fishman3811
05-27-2008, 03:29 AM
Good article it just goes to show what these assclowns think.

Fugitive
05-27-2008, 10:05 PM
You can't just call them Al-Qaida, how do you know they belong to Al qaida. The people are revolting against an illegal occupation. They will continue to do so until you leave because of financial trouble. Please don't tell me you weren't warned lol

YouTube - Bush - damn cowboy! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbKuYPVQuOk&feature=related)