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jakezking
05-15-2008, 02:34 PM
I am a fairly new member here. I have lurked about, reading and digesting as much of the information on here that I could within the past week or 2 that I have been a member of this great forum. I will try not to bug anyone with a bunch of questions, and along this line I figured one of the best ways to learn while not stepping on anyone's toes would be through posting and sharing my own log.

I am a writer by trade, which will help everyone understand that this log and my other posts within and without this forum are works of fiction and/or a part of my research methodology in preparation for a work of fiction.

With that stated, let's get on with the show, shall we? I came across a nice lil' bean from a fantastic plant a friend of mine grew and which he named "The Mighty Freeze." It amazed me along with most of my friends with its strength and vitality. It provided much more of an uplifting "high" versus a "couchlock" quality, and was pleased to find a bean from it.

On a whim, I placed the bean within a moistened paper towel, left it in a warm, dark place, and voila - several days later I found about an inch-long root. I plugged my lil' rooting friend into a "jiffy pop" starter on or about May 2, 2008, which I am considering my DAY 1.

Once Freeze sprouted cotyldons, I placed her in about 3/4 to 1/4 Miracle Grow potting soil with Perllite. I just plugged her jiffy pop starter into the soil, cutting the jiffy pop's netting to allow her freedom.

I have included links to 4 pictures of her, which depict her on DAY 13, if my math is correct - which it may very well not be.

I will try to keep up with this log the best I can, and I look forward to everyone's comments. Please keep in mind, this is my very first attempt, and I do not have any green on any of my fingers. Any and all assistance will be appreciated, as this forum is filled with a wealth of knowledge and kindness. I look forward to getting to know many of you better.

Enjoy the pictures.


1 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2764250060103500593omEdaL)
2 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2544765340103500593DKkvoO)
3 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2402459450103500593WaRWBk)
4 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2108925790103500593zcJJab)

jakezking
05-15-2008, 04:50 PM
As you will see in the 4th picture, and perhaps the 3rd, there are a couple of small tan spots on a leaf on the left side of the plant. I know it may be hard to tell from the picture, but does it appear to anyone to be a possible pest issue?

b0n3ZA
05-15-2008, 04:50 PM
Wow..

First off, excellently written.
I really enjoyed that, thank you :)

Plants look great, lovely quality photos!
Can't wait for the rest of this log!

peace

jakezking
05-17-2008, 03:20 PM
It looks like the forum had a bit of a hiccup with people losing some posts from yesterday. At first I thought it may have been something I said or did, as I had only checked my thread, but I noticed there were several threads I visited yesterday that were also reset. It's strange when things like this happen - sometimes it makes you aware of how much you appreciate something. I was just thinking that I have taken this forum for granted - already, when I've only been here for a couple of weeks. Therefore, I want to take this opportunity to thank you, the person(s) responsible for starting and maintaining this great forum where people can share their experiences with others. This virtual community is truly a great place - Thanks!

An update on the Freeze - I thought I would give you the information from yesterday on the Freeze. It was Day 15 from rooting, and she received a terrible beating from nearly incessant rains of Thursday and Friday. During a bit of a break in the rain on Thursday, May 15, 2008, I noticed her pot was not providing adequate drainage, so I transplanted her into a better draining pot, while mixing in some new Miracle Grow Organic Soil and Perllite since the soil was a bit thick. I didn't want her roots to be damaged by placing them back in such thick soil.

Since the transplant of Thursday, the Freeze seemed to really like her new pot, as even with all of the rains of later Thursday and Friday, May 16, 2008, her soil was draining well; she remained in an upright position throughout the rains, despite having a few leaves damaged. The pictures shared below show the leaf damage. After the rains of yesterday, Friday, I thought the Freeze could use a bit of company - I don't want her to develop an "Only Child" Complex, so I surrounded her with my other house plants. These house plants are in need of nutrients, so while feeding them I figured the Freeze could use a bit.

Since the Freeze is in Miracle Grow soil and since she is still quite young, I didn't want to feed her too much, so I diluted a few nutrients to about 1/4 strength and fed her. She seems to be doing well today. The nutrients I added are:

Miracle Grow Organic Care Blood Meal
Miracle Grow Organic Care Bone Meal
Superthrive

I also noticed a few holes in the Freeze's leaves, which I concluded were the result of insects getting the munchies. Although I'm all about and completely understand the munchies, I can't have any insects munching down on the Freeze, so I sprayed her pretty good, both tops and bottoms of her leaves, with Shultz Multi-purpose Garden Insect Killer. Hopefully, such spray will prevent any further insect issues. You can see the holes in the pictures, along with a slime stream from one of the cotyldons to the soil - maybe from a snail or slug? Even though the slime stream with the rain drops, as seen in picture 3 I think, looks pretty cool, I had to nip the snail activity in the bud - I'm hoping the above spray will also keep the snails away.

Alright, I think everyone should be back up to speed from yesterday's post loss. As before, I look forward to the comments and advice. I lost a few comments yesterday, which I hope to see replaced by even more. As this is my first ever grow, setting aside a plant I attempted to grow back in college - many moons ago - I can use all of the assistance and support I can get.

Without further ado, here are the pictures from yesterday, May 16, 2008 - DAY 15 since Freeze's rooting.


1 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2681888590103500593XFNEco)
2 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2918391390103500593ZhYjvd)
3 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2985621400103500593qUpiAU)
4 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2815039720103500593JoPOra)
5 pictures from flowers photos on webshots (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2113874310103500593TDAopw)

jakezking
05-18-2008, 12:24 AM
Well, 1 of my dogs dug into the Freeze today while I was away. The Freeze wasn't hurt too badly, I don't believe. Part of her root system may have been ripped apart, but a significant portion remains. I eased her back into her pot, making sure she was secure. I gave my dogs a good verbal lashing, hoping to scare them away from the houseplants and the Freeze. Strangely enough, only the Freeze was disturbed. It seems like animals have a desire for the herb too, eh?

Hopefully the Freeze is done with the drama for awhile. It seems like she has encountered adversity at every turn. Enduring the monsoon of the past few days and now the dogs. But, I am probably her worst enemy at this point since I am such a newbie to growing. Hopefully she will make it - against all odds.

cthulhu
05-18-2008, 11:17 PM
looks nice and healthy, but unfortunately there seems to be a problem with the second set of pics you posted. looks like you're around the same stage as I am.

good luck, and keep us updated. :rastasmoke:

jakezking
05-18-2008, 11:24 PM
cthulhu, thanks for your post, my friend. My post in your log was deleted the other day during the forum issues. I'll keep an eye on your log as well. I just saw the problem with the webshots picture post - I'm hoping Webshots is just having some problems, and that my pictures have not been deleted. If they have been, then hopefully I'll be getting my post count up so I won't have to worry about off-forum picture posting.

Today was a nice, sunny day for the Freeze. She seems to be doing well after her replanting following the labrador incident. Hopefully she'll be free of further drama.

Technique2
05-22-2008, 08:56 AM
From what I saw so far, your plants WERE doing fine. Sucks about the Lab. getting into mischief. Also, writer by trade eh? Well I am a writer by nature.:thumbsup: Enjoy it? hmmm, well let's just say I am VERY crafty with the linguistics.;)

I hope you get to 50 posts ASAP so you can display your images similar to my Log. I think the "Vets" here REALLY appreciate the simplicity of viewing with no extra clicks involved.

I too like you am VERY grateful of the wonderful people who maintain/manage this forum, as well as being thankful of the GREAT people patronizing the forums.:thumbsup:

Good growing dude.

jakezking
05-31-2008, 01:51 PM
Alright, as it appears the old host I had chosen for my log pictures deleted my pictures, so I have chosen a new host I found others within this board use. I hope this host does not delete these, as I like most people choose to follow logs in large part due to the incredible pictures.

To catch everyone up on my past pictures that were deleted, I have posted links below. As you will note, these pictures are from Day 13 and Day 15.


Day 13

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Day 15

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jakezking
05-31-2008, 02:08 PM
Alright, I finally squared away the pictures above to show only the thumbnails, linking to the actual pictures. Man, I feel like I have accomplished a bunch this morning already - a great way to start the day following a night where I smoked so much I forgot to turn off my sprinkler, thereby flooding my front yard. Wow!

On with the narrative regarding the Freeze. Day 29 was yesterday, and I have been derelict with regard to this log, so I decided to provide a bit of an update. Please forgive my lack of recent updates and time on the board - life has been busy. Luckily, the busy is getting much better than it has been over the past few months.

You will notice the Freeze is getting a bit bushier, leading me to spend more time with her. I feel like she has made it over somewhat of a hump, and she is now a real life plant. I love babies, but I really love when a baby is old enough to show his/her own personality - I feel this is the stage my Freeze is entering, and I cannot wait to watch her development from day to day.

The Freeze is in a nice sized pot for the time being. She is being watered every 2 to 3 days, including within the water some Superthrive, which she seems to like. I had attempted to introduce some Bonemeal and Bloodmeal, but these nutrients in addition to her Miracle Grow soil burned off the first node of leaves. I live and I learn. The Freeze now only receives water and Superthrive.

Now, a question - I have read that you cannot determine the sex of a plant until flowering starts at the 12/12 cycle, which will be a couple of months. But, I swear you will be able to see pistils on the Freeze. I took a few up close pictures to show the long, yellowish-white tentacles popping out the top of the Freeze. Are these in fact pistils which indicate a female plant?

Luckily my dogs have not shown any more interest in the Freeze following their having knocked her over a few times. I thought they may have stunted her growth, but she seems to be doing pretty well. She is receiving a great deal of direct sunlight for the first 10 hours of the day or so, with indirect sunlight for about another 5 hours or so.

I look forward to comments and suggestions regarding my care of the Freeze. And, I hope someone can answer my question about the possibility of the above-described "tentacles" being pistils, thereby indicating the Freeze is in fact a girl.

Thanks for following my log, and enjoy the eye candy.

Day 29

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hydrocannabis
05-31-2008, 06:39 PM
:thumbsup: its a girly girl.

is that ur only plant?

jakezking
05-31-2008, 08:27 PM
Yeah - she's my only plant, for the time being. A friend of mine has promised to provide me with as many seeds as I should ever need. I can't wait to have a whole bunch of little ones laying around outside! But, the Freeze will probably be a very big sister by the time her little sisters come along. She seems to be doing well as an only child though.

And, thanks, hydrocannabis, for confirming the Freeze is in fact a girly girl! That is really good news, especially since she's my only plant.

jakezking
06-06-2008, 11:24 PM
Alright, here is the anxiously awaited, at least for me, update on the Freeze, which now that she is getting larger I have taken to call the "Ice Queen." She seems to be doing well. Although I have seen several people on here mention Superthrive in a negative manner, it is the only additional nutrient I have added, other than my initial foul up with bone meal and blood meal - I think I added these too early on, especially considering the soil is Miracle Grow.

I have a few questions for the experienced growers, which is about everyone else in this forum other than me. They are as follows:

1) Is the Ice Queen a hermaphrodite? I noticed a few "pods" at the base of a few nodes (see pictures 7, 8, and 9), and for some reason they look like the nuts; of course, I hope I am wrong;
2) Is it too late to FIM or TOP the Queen? With the Queen's incredible pistil afro, I hate to mess with her, but if an experienced grower thinks it is not too late, I will try to force my hand;
3) As the Queen is only on Day 36, is it strange that she is already "flowering?" I take flowering to mean the development of all the many pistils;
4) If the Queen is already flowering, is there a need for me to add some flowering nutrients? I have Green Light Super Bloom standing at the ready.
5) Also, if the Queen is already flowering, how much longer will she continue to develop prior to harvest? I know this varies from strain to strain; my best guess as to the strain is that she is "Mighty Freeze," as I found a seed in my dugout from this strain provided by a friend - I could be wrong as he had provided me with about 7 different strains - a good friend indeed!

I guess that's about the end of my questions and my update. I hope there will be some comments and possibly answers to my questions. Thanks for reading. Now, without further ado, the eye candy.


Day 36

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hatch
06-07-2008, 04:55 AM
:pimp:Excellent Thread My Brother!!!!!!..........Your Plant's Are Looking Vigorous & Have Great Green Vibrant Color!!!!!..........Good Luck With The Rest Of Your Grow:thumbsup:

:stoned::pimp:

hydrocannabis
06-07-2008, 06:35 AM
urs looks great and looks like shes gunna bud more than my lil one will.

:thumbsup: have a great one.

zebulon
06-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Hey m8.....just checking out your thread, and it's great....:thumbsup:
It's strange that your plant is flowering so early....you know weed usually starts to flower when the days are getting shorter(end of summer)
Dose your plant get enough sunlight??
I hate to say but if things remain like this, you won't get a acceptable yield....
As for your Q's....:
1.) No, she is no Hermy...
2.) I don't think that it would do any good to TOP or FIM her so late...
3.) Yes....:wtf:
4.) It can't hurt...but only 1/2 of the lowest recommended dose in the beginning....
5.) She will develop for sure....

Shovelhandle
06-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Fat Elvis,
This isn't the plant you're thinking hemaphrodite, is it? I see a beautiful female with no evidence of male parts, yet.

Shov

jakezking
06-07-2008, 02:29 PM
:pimp:Excellent Thread My Brother!!!!!!..........Your Plant's Are Looking Vigorous & Have Great Green Vibrant Color!!!!!..........Good Luck With The Rest Of Your Grow:thumbsup:

:stoned::pimp:

hatch, I appreciate your traffic on my log! Thanks for the boost of confidence regarding the Ice Queen. And, I will need all the luck I can get with her! I can only hope a few of my trichs will resemble yours!



urs looks great and looks like shes gunna bud more than my lil one will.

:thumbsup: have a great one.

Thanks to you, hydrocannabis, for your vote of confidence! Your plants are amazing, so your comment means a lot, bro!



Hey m8.....just checking out your thread, and it's great....:thumbsup:
It's strange that your plant is flowering so early....you know weed usually starts to flower when the days are getting shorter(end of summer)
Dose your plant get enough sunlight??
I hate to say but if things remain like this, you won't get a acceptable yield....
As for your Q's....:
1.) No, she is no Hermy...
2.) I don't think that it would do any good to TOP or FIM her so late...
3.) Yes....:wtf:
4.) It can't hurt...but only 1/2 of the lowest recommended dose in the beginning....
5.) She will develop for sure....

zeb! Dude, I appreciate your time on my questions, as I now have a better sense of direction! Ice Queen has a spot in my yard, where she gets direct sunlight for probably 10 hours, and indirect sunlight for the rest of the day, which must account for her early flowering. This brings about another question - can I reposition Ice Queen elsewhere in my yard so she gets more direct sunlight without funking her up now that she has already begun to flower? I'd rather have a small yield than to mess her up.

I'm really excited to hear she is not going hermy. Those pods at the base of the nodes looked to be seed shaped, so I was getting confused.

Thanks again for your time and experience in answering my questions!



Fat Elvis,
This isn't the plant you're thinking hemaphrodite, is it? I see a beautiful female with no evidence of male parts, yet.

Shov

Shov, thanks for confirming Ice Queen has not gone herm on me! With you and zeb both confirming it, then I take it to be gospel. I figured with all of the stress she has been through and with her early flowering, then those puffy pods at the base of the nodes were the beginnings of seed pods.

As for the Fat Elvis - he's my favorite of all the Elvii. And, this particular impersonator's stylings brought to my attention for the first time the phenomenon known as "male camel toe." I had never considered it nor thought it possible. It makes me laugh in the sense that sometimes other people's pain is humorous in an America's Funniest Home Videos sort of way - that darn suit must be uncomfortable as heck!


Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time to review and comment on my log, as well as provide me much needed direction through answers to my noob questions. You are passing it on, as others passed it on to you, and for that I thank you; and, I will try my best to give back on this great board!

Be good out there.

greenatik
06-08-2008, 01:00 AM
As for the Fat Elvis - he's my favorite of all the Elvii. And, this particular impersonator's stylings brought to my attention for the first time the phenomenon known as "male camel toe." I had never considered it nor thought it possible. It makes me laugh in the sense that sometimes other people's pain is humorous in an America's Funniest Home Videos sort of way - that darn suit must be uncomfortable as heck!


hahahahaha oh man. the infamous male camel toe. I just had a flashback to the movie The Weather Man when they show a bunch of "camel toes" in response to her daughter's nickname - cameltoe.

anywayys - looking good jake, and that is def a female!

peace!

Delta9Haze420
06-08-2008, 02:09 AM
Nice work! Looks very Indica to me, short and bushy, wide leaves; though the experience you described would point towards sativa traits... Probably some hybridization (never heard of it before). Either way, she is indeed a healthy looking young lady! Hopefully you can keep her from fully flowering until she gets a bit bigger so your yield increases. Best luck!

jakezking
06-14-2008, 07:51 PM
hahahahaha oh man. the infamous male camel toe. I just had a flashback to the movie The Weather Man when they show a bunch of "camel toes" in response to her daughter's nickname - cameltoe.

anywayys - looking good jake, and that is def a female!

peace!

greenatik! Thanks for The Weather Man reference - that scene is hilarious! You feel terrible for the girl, but what a hilarious situation!



Nice work! Looks very Indica to me, short and bushy, wide leaves; though the experience you described would point towards sativa traits... Probably some hybridization (never heard of it before). Either way, she is indeed a healthy looking young lady! Hopefully you can keep her from fully flowering until she gets a bit bigger so your yield increases. Best luck!

Delta9Haze420, I appreciate your visiting my log. Thanks for the insight as to the Ice Queen, or the Little Ice Queen, as she is still pretty much stunted. I appreciate your comments and encouragement, as I can use all I can get.

jakezking
06-14-2008, 08:02 PM
I just noticed I can finally post pictures on the board! Most Excellent! I will begin this next go 'round, since I have already posted Day 44 on the Shack.

I apologize for my absence from the board, but I was out of town on business, being unable to log on except at night to respond to word emails. But, the week flew by, and the Mini Ice Queen (MIQ) still received good TLC. She seems to have grown maybe another inch or 2, and her buds are filling in pretty good with some visible trichomes sprouting all over.

The only problem I have with the MIQ is shown in pictures 9 and 10, where it looks like I may have a bit of an insect problem? There is a "trail" on one of the nearest fan leaves that looks like a burn mark. Anyone have any insight as to what may have caused that? I figure the yellowing of some of the lower fan leaves is caused by my past aggressive use of Superthrive, which I will back off some.

As for nutrients, I think I am going to add some Green Light Super Bloom since MIQ has continued to flower. Even though she is smallish, I figure I might as well begin to provide her some flowering nutes so that the buds she is developing will be more robust. Anyone have any comments or advice as to such a move? I figure I will only use about 1/4 to 1/2 strength, as I've been informed through replies and threads on this great board.

I hope all is well with everyone, and I look forward to your comments, constructive criticism, and/or suggestions. I also look forward to catching up with other's threads now that I am back home.

Y'all be good out there! Now, on with the pictures. I hope you enjoy.

Day 44

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greenatik
06-14-2008, 08:22 PM
great pics jake! :clap:

painretreat
06-14-2008, 08:41 PM
Nice thread and useful! :thumbsup:

jakezking
06-16-2008, 04:04 AM
great pics jake! :clap:

greenatik, my friend, your compliment is well taken, especially since your pics of your buds are amazing! I have seen no other capture the pistil afro as well as you. Thanks again!



Nice thread and useful! :thumbsup:

Thanks to you, painretreat, for your compliment. Man, the folks on this board really ROCK! I know not everyone who partakes of MJ is laid back and cool, but for the most part we stoners are good people. I attribute such attribute to the fact we slow down a bit to enjoy life!

As for the Mighty Freeze, a/k/a the Ice Queen, a/k/a Mini Ice Queen, I am beginning to feel she may be, or somehow related to, a Lowryder strain, as she is only about 1' tall and began to flower, "autoflower," prior to DAY 29. At the end of the day, I could really care less what strain she is - she is developing nicely, and it is a singular joy to assist her in her growth, or at least not stand in the way of it.

I will try not to bump this thread again until my next photo update. And, I hope to begin either a new grow log, or an addition to this log with a few Nirvana PPP, Papaya, New Purple Power, and whatever the freebie may be. Ok, I admit it, I am without a doubt addicted to growin' the green.

Thanks and have a great night/day!

daihashi
06-17-2008, 05:26 PM
Man those plants look great. How many grows have you done so far?

I'm hoping to have a set of pretty healthy plants like that for my next grow. Starting in a few weeks :D.

Delta9Haze420
06-18-2008, 02:38 AM
Man, the folks on this board really ROCK! I know not everyone who partakes of MJ is laid back and cool, but for the most part we stoners are good people. I attribute such attribute to the fact we slow down a bit to enjoy life!

As for the Mighty Freeze, a/k/a the Ice Queen, a/k/a Mini Ice Queen, I am beginning to feel she may be, or somehow related to, a Lowryder strain, as she is only about 1' tall and began to flower, "autoflower," prior to DAY 29. At the end of the day, I could really care less what strain she is - she is developing nicely, and it is a singular joy to assist her in her growth, or at least not stand in the way of it.



Thanks for the kind words about our members. I know we all get warm and fuzzy when our sentiments and advice go appreciated. While I'm talking about some of the senior members - Rachel! Where are you hiding? I haven't seen you in a few days; hope all is well! I shot you an email earlier, I'm sure I'll hear back soon!

About the Queen; from what you have posted I think you may be right. The growth is very lowrider-esque and I wouldn't put it far from logic that there may be some earlygirl and/or lowrider genetics somewhere in there. Either way, she is a beauty of a girl, and looks very happy. Fantastic job on taking care of her and all the work you've put into her to allow her to thrive. I have no real doubt that she will be quite powerful and a pleasure to partake! Best of luck as she continues to grow, and I look forward to tracking her progress and any others you begin to log.

~Cheers!

-D9

jakezking
06-19-2008, 09:04 PM
Man those plants look great. How many grows have you done so far?

I'm hoping to have a set of pretty healthy plants like that for my next grow. Starting in a few weeks :D.

daihashi, it's good to see you, my friend. This is really only my 1st grow, even though I had tried a quick grow back in college - before the advent of the internet when I had no access to such a large cache of information and experienced growers as are available on this great board! I have not done all too much, as you will see from reading above to have MIQ be such a beautiful lady. She is a hardy strain - Mighty Freeze, which I will give some background and information on below. Good luck with your next grow, and I look forward to following your next log!



About the Queen; from what you have posted I think you may be right. The growth is very lowrider-esque and I wouldn't put it far from logic that there may be some earlygirl and/or lowrider genetics somewhere in there. Either way, she is a beauty of a girl, and looks very happy. Fantastic job on taking care of her and all the work you've put into her to allow her to thrive. I have no real doubt that she will be quite powerful and a pleasure to partake! Best of luck as she continues to grow, and I look forward to tracking her progress and any others you begin to log.

~Cheers!

-D9

D9, I appreciate your insight, as always - from your thread and replies herein, I gather you have quite the educational background, as well as experience in growing. I thank you for your interest in my grow, as well as for allowing me to pick your brain from time to time. You are very kind, and I look forward to reviewing your and Stinky's dialogue after a few puffs, as it really blows my mind!

Your comments led me to do some research on Mighty Freeze, and below is what I have learned of the strain. Maybe such information will lead to others providing me even more insight?


Out of curiosity, and since not many folks had heard of a "Mighty Freeze" strain, I used one of the most powerful tools known to man, "Google," to see what I could discover about it. I don't know if anyone following my grow log is interested in what I discovered, but for posterity's sake I thought I would include this information.

Mighty Freeze is a cross between Mighty Mite and Friesland. I also discovered it is an autoflowering strain. All of such information was discovered on other boards through the logs and information from fellow growers. I also read briefly that someone else had experienced a Mighty Freeze crop being stunted. Both of these bits of information shed some light on my experience in my first grow. I still don't quite understand why she is stunted, and I had attributed the early flowering partially to an autoflowering possibility; but, it's now nice to know that indeed she is an autoflowerer.

In the end, it does appear my lil' lady is a Mighty Freeze, and so she shall retain her nickname of the Mini Ice Queen or MIQ. I need to get better at the naming stuff, eh?

I'll update tomorrow with some pictures. I began lst'ing her Tuesday late afternoon, and her bottom leaves have already begun reaching for the sun. I hope it will help her to become more robust since her growth was stunted.

I hope all is well with everyone. Aloha

jakezking
06-20-2008, 04:33 PM
So, the MIQ has lived for 50 days since rooting, and this is her 26th day of flower. She appears pretty healthy despite all of my interference with her growth.

She also seems to be enjoying the lst'ing, which you will note I accomplished just by hooking a large paper clip around her upper stalk and securing it to the lip of the bucket. Her lower branches are really reaching for the sun, even though this is only about her 3rd day of the lst. I had previously been twisting her stalk, and I lst'ed her the day of a pretty good rain, so her stalk took easily to its newly mandated direction.

Every few days I am adding about 1/2 of the recommended dosage of Green Light Super Bloom, but that has been the extent of her nutes for awhile.

Alright, enough of the talk - let's get to the pictures. I am going to try to upload them using this board's system. Let's see how this works. I'll upload 1/2 to this post, and the other 1/2 will be in the following post.

Everyone be good out there!

jakezking
06-20-2008, 04:36 PM
Here are the rest of the pictures from today's update.

Enjoy and Aloha

Wert
06-20-2008, 04:53 PM
Nice little girl you have there! I wish I had the solitude to grow like that :thumbsup:

I have never heard of that strain before. Maybe it suggests it likes growing in colder climates? :stoned:

hydrocannabis
06-20-2008, 05:17 PM
yah she looks real great.

jakezking
06-26-2008, 09:17 PM
Well, it appears MIQ went into a re-veg state from my lst'ing of her? The bottom-most sets of fan leaves/bud sites have really grown, reaching toward the sun now they are not being dominated by the main cola. You will notice the buds are really beginning to shoot up along with more nodes popping up. I am really impressed with the additional vegitative growth, as I was hoping for more bud to come off MIQ, since she is my only plant. Now she has bud locations from top to bottom, and I hope she will really begin to fill out. As she has been in flower for almost 7 weeks, I don't know how much longer she will go. I found a pretty good discussion of her strain - Mighty Freeze - on another board, so I will probably go back to try to discover the normal flowering time period. However, I will just keep an eye on her and probably allow her to develop a bit longer, since she seemed to re-veg.

I had thought about trimming some of her fan leaves back to allow more sun to reach the buds, but read on a post somewhere that such trimming seemed to stunt bud development, as it depleted the buds of their food stores.

Well, enough of the rambling and on with some new pictures. Even though these pictures are only 6 days past the last set posted, I was impressed with the growth on the bottom nodes/bud sites, so I thought I would share the effects of the late-in-the-day lst'ing. It seems like it is never too late to lst?

Enjoy the eye candy. I will post 1/2 of the pictures in this reply, and the other 1/2 immediately below.

Also, has anyone had a delivery from seed-boutique take longer than 17 days? My order shipped back on June 10, and I have yet to receive them, so I am getting a bit anxious. Any input on this subject will be appreciated.

jakezking
06-26-2008, 09:23 PM
Here are the rest of the pictures from above.

Thanks to Wert and hydro for your comments. I am following both of y'all's grows, so your comments are especially appreciated.

Enjoy, and everyone be good out there!

Shovelhandle
06-26-2008, 10:39 PM
Beautiful healthy pot plants. Look great!

hydrocannabis
06-27-2008, 03:54 AM
she looks beautiful as hell.

jakezking
06-27-2008, 04:55 AM
Beautiful healthy pot plants. Look great!

Shov, I appreciate your coming over for a spell, my friend! Kick back and relax by the pool from time to time. You must practice up for the 4th of July!



she looks beautiful as hell.

hydro, I appreciate the compliment, my friend! I sort of look down on MIQ in comparison to all of the other grows going on here, but she isn't lookin' 1/2 bad these days. "Knocked Up" is on..... the dang teddy bear.

I've gotta go. I truly appreciate the visits to the log. Anytime anyone wants to pull up a lawn chair and watch the cars go by, just drop on by. Y'all be good out there now, ya hear?

Delta9Haze420
06-27-2008, 06:45 AM
That is some outstanding work, beautiful pics there - everything seems to be coming right along quite nicely. Good to hear about the additional secondary growth away from the apical cola, that will greatly increase your yield. Indeed, cutting the fan leaves is not usually recommended. Instead, try to tuck them in toward the center of the plant, allowing your growing tips more light. This allows the plant to continue using those fan leaves to photosynthesize to some extent, as well as use nutrients which are stored in the leaves (which would be completely lost if cut). This is really just a slightly more technical way of saying what you already did, which was that the trimming would deplete some nutrient storage (as well as energy production). Due to the compact nature of growth (typical to indica strains), tucking in the fan leaves is a little harder than on a lanky sativa (most strains I tend to favor are sativa dominant), but it can still be done somewhat effectively. Once again though, impressive work!

Do you have a photo or jeweler's loupe? 10X is common, but some people like the 30X better, it is really personal preference. If not, you might look into getting one soon. Fairly decent jeweler's loupes are available relatively cheap online, and can be found on eBay for around $5 for a 10X compound (multi lense) jeweler's loupe. It would be fantastic to start seeing some close up shots of the trichomes as they begin to come around and eventually mature if you have the means. :thumbsup: All that is required is a decent camera (the one you have been using seems to work well) and a loupe, which can be held in front of the camera lense to get a close up shot of trichomes. :jointsmile:

Continued best of luck, and groove on! :smokin:

jakezking
06-27-2008, 08:44 PM
That is some outstanding work, beautiful pics there - everything seems to be coming right along quite nicely. Good to hear about the additional secondary growth away from the apical cola, that will greatly increase your yield. Indeed, cutting the fan leaves is not usually recommended. Instead, try to tuck them in toward the center of the plant, allowing your growing tips more light. This allows the plant to continue using those fan leaves to photosynthesize to some extent, as well as use nutrients which are stored in the leaves (which would be completely lost if cut). This is really just a slightly more technical way of saying what you already did, which was that the trimming would deplete some nutrient storage (as well as energy production). Due to the compact nature of growth (typical to indica strains), tucking in the fan leaves is a little harder than on a lanky sativa (most strains I tend to favor are sativa dominant), but it can still be done somewhat effectively. Once again though, impressive work!

Do you have a photo or jeweler's loupe? 10X is common, but some people like the 30X better, it is really personal preference. If not, you might look into getting one soon. Fairly decent jeweler's loupes are available relatively cheap online, and can be found on eBay for around $5 for a 10X compound (multi lense) jeweler's loupe. It would be fantastic to start seeing some close up shots of the trichomes as they begin to come around and eventually mature if you have the means. :thumbsup: All that is required is a decent camera (the one you have been using seems to work well) and a loupe, which can be held in front of the camera lense to get a close up shot of trichomes. :jointsmile:

Continued best of luck, and groove on! :smokin:

D9, I appreciate your input, as always! It's nice to have some confirmation that the train is still on the tracks. Thanks for the thumbs up on the grow - it means a lot coming from someone of your learned background and experience.

I need to break down and get a loupe. I will have to look around for one, as I have always been impressed with the pictures folks have taken of their trichs - hatch seems to be a master at it!

Thanks again for dropping by for a bit and reading over my musings and checking my pictures! Be good out there, my friend!

greenatik
06-27-2008, 10:17 PM
Jake, you lucky guy. I have been eyeballin PPP for some time now. Just haven't been able to locate it locally. Its' fat yields are enticing and of course exactly what I need :baggy:.

and your plant is looking awesome man, we will be harvesting around the same time I suppose :D I am at 44 days flower, but yours seems to be maturing faster!

Can't wait to see how everything turns out for ya, and D9 made me want to go out and get a loupe for some trich shots. we will have to share soon :jointsmile:

peace friend and grow safe!

jakezking
06-28-2008, 12:52 AM
Jake, you lucky guy. I have been eyeballin PPP for some time now. Just haven't been able to locate it locally. Its' fat yields are enticing and of course exactly what I need :baggy:.

and your plant is looking awesome man, we will be harvesting around the same time I suppose :D I am at 44 days flower, but yours seems to be maturing faster!

Can't wait to see how everything turns out for ya, and D9 made me want to go out and get a loupe for some trich shots. we will have to share soon :jointsmile:

peace friend and grow safe!

greenatik, thanks for stopping by, my friend! It's darn good to see you in the MIQ log. I hope I will have some PPP soon, but boutique shipped my beans back on the 10th of June, and I still have not seen them. I'm really beginning to think they have been hijacked!

As for MIQ maturing fast, I don't know about that. She is an autoflowerer, but seems to have really slowed down on the flowering since I lst'ed her - her new veg development should prove for more bud though, so I am happy she has decided to take a bit longer to finish; luckily I don't need bud, so I can hold off for as long as it takes her.

Like you, D9 lit a fire under me to get a loupe and experiment with some pictures. I'd really like to see MIQ's trichs under magnification though, just to reassure myself they are developing nicely.

Have a great weekend, greenatik, and thanks again for stopping by!

greenatik
06-28-2008, 02:33 AM
(really high right now)

jake, I don't think the lst-ing would slow down flowering at all. i would keep it tied down to receive maximum light. yours seems to be frosting up quicker then mine did... but she is called MIQ. :D 10 days ago I couldn't see trichs noticeably in person without zoomed in on my camera's macro setting

oh and I found a strong magnifying glass. im going to see if i can get some shots later tonight when the light flips :D Cant wait because I was pruning some leaves last night and started to see purple hues on the lower buds. going to try and turn down the temps to 65 at night to bring out the lavender.

and I am sorry to hear about seed boutique rippin ya... thats really unforunate :( I have been hearing about a lot of that lately which is why I have never tried the online deal. but hey they still might come, did you contact them about it? one day Ill give it a go because the strain selection is awesome, PPP :food10:

anyways jake, i hope you have a good weekend too, and the weather looks nice where your at. :thumbsup:

Jerry Garcia 2007
06-28-2008, 12:14 PM
Jakezking,

You are doing a wonderful job:), those are some very healthy looking babies and you are doing a wonderful job with the LST'ing.

I don't see anything I can add, just keep up the good work.

JG

jakezking
06-28-2008, 02:59 PM
(really high right now)

jake, I don't think the lst-ing would slow down flowering at all. i would keep it tied down to receive maximum light. yours seems to be frosting up quicker then mine did... but she is called MIQ. :D 10 days ago I couldn't see trichs noticeably in person without zoomed in on my camera's macro setting

oh and I found a strong magnifying glass. im going to see if i can get some shots later tonight when the light flips :D Cant wait because I was pruning some leaves last night and started to see purple hues on the lower buds. going to try and turn down the temps to 65 at night to bring out the lavender.

and I am sorry to hear about seed boutique rippin ya... thats really unforunate :( I have been hearing about a lot of that lately which is why I have never tried the online deal. but hey they still might come, did you contact them about it? one day Ill give it a go because the strain selection is awesome, PPP :food10:

anyways jake, i hope you have a good weekend too, and the weather looks nice where your at. :thumbsup:

greenatik, I appreciate the insight into the lst'ing. I thought since I had lst'ed her so late in flowering allowing the bottom leaves to get more light, it caused her to go into a re-veg state, as the lower leaves/stems really began to bush out and are not budding. The slow down in flowering may be attributable to a lot of rain here recently, which has been following my application of flowering nutes, probably serving to flush MIQ pretty well. I don't know any of this for certain - just putting together some hypotheses (but, too lazy to test them).

I have a magnifying glass too - will have to see if it helps me to see the trichs better. I'd still like that loupe to be able to take some pictures, but it may be possible with the magnifying glass - never know til we try, eh?

As for the boutique, I sent them an email, but then went to the website and read where they will not reply to a status email until the order is 21 days old, so I have a few more days. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed the beans will arrive.

Thanks for looking in on me again, my friend! As this is my first real grow, I need all of the insight, advice, and encouragement I can get. I look forward to watching your ladies grow up as well. I will be by your log again soon - I'm going out of town today, so maybe later tonight after a few bat hits. Aloha!



Jakezking,

You are doing a wonderful job:), those are some very healthy looking babies and you are doing a wonderful job with the LST'ing.

I don't see anything I can add, just keep up the good work.

JG

JG, your presence within my log is much appreciated. The more "hoorahs" I get from you guys and gals with the experienced green thumbs, the better I feel about how I am doing. It's one thing to see it with my own eyes, but since it's my first grow, I don't have much personally to compare it to - other than my viewing and reading logs on this board.

I will drop back by your log to check on your blue beauties - hopefully tonight! I wish you well, and hope you have a great day, my friend!

Mr.GoodMorning02
06-28-2008, 04:09 PM
hey jake, i'm fairly new here as well but I see your MIQ is doing quite well and I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner but doing my own research on strains and methods has kept me busy. From the looks of things and reading the full log, you're correct and the flowering stage slowed just a bit from the lst but will def benefit with more bud, and honestly, who wouldn't want that :jointsmile:. I'll most def keep an eye out for the pre-harvest/post-harvest pics.

keep up the good work and i'm sure this first time, successful, grow will not be your last. look forward to seeing some more of your efforts prevail.

-good morning

jakezking
06-30-2008, 01:19 AM
hey jake, i'm fairly new here as well but I see your MIQ is doing quite well and I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner but doing my own research on strains and methods has kept me busy. From the looks of things and reading the full log, you're correct and the flowering stage slowed just a bit from the lst but will def benefit with more bud, and honestly, who wouldn't want that :jointsmile:. I'll most def keep an eye out for the pre-harvest/post-harvest pics.

keep up the good work and i'm sure this first time, successful, grow will not be your last. look forward to seeing some more of your efforts prevail.

-good morning

Mr.GoodMorning02, I appreciate you stopping by for a spell, my friend! I appreciate your comments and for substantiating the flowering slow down - that's what it looked like to me. I agree, I don't mind the slow down as long as there are additional buds at the end, which it looks like there will be! I look forward to providing you and everyone else pre and post harvest pics. I've got a while to go, and it's really going to be hard to keep from jumping on MIQ when her buds get bigger!

Take good care out there, and thanks again for stopping by! Feel free to come by at any point in time, and if you have any questions/comments, please leave them.

HBcubs2
06-30-2008, 04:35 AM
hey jake i have read thru your log i wanna say great job and she look:clap::dance:s awesome

lunarose
06-30-2008, 05:13 AM
Hi,

Great log and a nice looking little lady. I have had stunted plants from time to time. On my last grow I had three Swiss Miss girls all started at the same time treated identically two grew to 5' while the third barely made 2. I also had a stunted White Widow...go figure.

I've ordered twice with Seed Boutique and both orders were here in 10 days. It may not be their fault your order could have been intercepted....

Delta9Haze420
06-30-2008, 05:55 AM
Hi,
I've ordered twice with Seed Boutique and both orders were here in 10 days. It may not be their fault your order could have been intercepted....

I was going to mention this in my next reply, but will elaborate now since it has come up. I agree, and think if you still haven't received them, more than likely it wasn't the shop, but they were interdicted (not cool). I have never had any problems with them, or any shop I have dealt with for that matter, and would be more worried about Customs... I have had customs interdict a CIV substance and got a "love letter" from them about importation blah blah etc, but it was CIV and I had authorization to have it (though I never told customs, I just let them keep it). I don't know what they would do with seeds since they are CI. Anyway, hopefully you see them soon! I'll be back probably tomorrow to check on the log, as well as update my own. Happy and safe gardening, all!

Shovelhandle
06-30-2008, 12:10 PM
Good luck with your bean order. I guess that just happens sometimes. Your plant, she is doing really fine, man. Good job with the journal too.

Shov

camoxnhx
06-30-2008, 01:25 PM
Jake that mighty-freeze is looking healthy and is looking quite impressive! now is the mighty-freeze a autoflower strain? a few questions.. 1. how tall is she? 2. Whats the nut you are giving her. 3 How long has she been flowering for up to this point? 4. Whats the yeild (round about) that it's gonna produce? thanks. sorry for so many questions. :)

camoxnhx
06-30-2008, 01:29 PM
Well i just found out it was a autoflower. now have you tryed (or done) feeding molassess to you MIQ?

jakezking
06-30-2008, 07:59 PM
First of all, I'm stunned and excited about all of the responses and interest MIQ has been getting of late. I'm not used to this amount of activity in my log, except for my own hustling and bustling about. Thanks to everyone for paying ye ole MIQ log a visit. Now to get around to responding to everyone.


hey jake i have read thru your log i wanna say great job and she look:clap::dance:s awesome

HBcubs2, I thank you very much for your comments and time spent reviewing my log. Since it's my first grow, there is not much good information from me, but hopefully you gained some understanding from the others who have responded to my log. Thanks again for stopping by - you're welcome anytime!



Hi,

Great log and a nice looking little lady. I have had stunted plants from time to time. On my last grow I had three Swiss Miss girls all started at the same time treated identically two grew to 5' while the third barely made 2. I also had a stunted White Widow...go figure.

I've ordered twice with Seed Boutique and both orders were here in 10 days. It may not be their fault your order could have been intercepted....

lunarose, I appreciate the information on your stunted plants. Any idea what caused yours to become stunted? I attributed mine to some interference by my dogs. It sounds like yours had the same conditions, but I didn't know if you had attributed the stunting to anything in particular, even if it was just a guess. As for seed boutique, I am not blaming anyone at this point, and realize the beans could very well have been intercepted or otherwise lost in the mail - it wouldn't be the first time the U.S. Mail had lost something; but, I was/am hoping the beans were not intercepted. I'll keep my fingers crossed they may still be on their way. I will contact the boutique again after 21 days of order have passed.

Thanks for coming by my grow log, and hopefully you will stop back by again sometime. Be good out there!



I was going to mention this in my next reply, but will elaborate now since it has come up. I agree, and think if you still haven't received them, more than likely it wasn't the shop, but they were interdicted (not cool). I have never had any problems with them, or any shop I have dealt with for that matter, and would be more worried about Customs... I have had customs interdict a CIV substance and got a "love letter" from them about importation blah blah etc, but it was CIV and I had authorization to have it (though I never told customs, I just let them keep it). I don't know what they would do with seeds since they are CI. Anyway, hopefully you see them soon! I'll be back probably tomorrow to check on the log, as well as update my own. Happy and safe gardening, all!

D9, thanks for stopping by again and for providing me information on the possible interdiction. I had been concerned about ordering beans, but read somewhere that Customs interdiction normally only resulted in a letter, such as you described, so I went forward with my order. I'm still hopeful that the beans failure to arrive is not due to Customs. Hopefully, boutique can track the order to give me a status once 21 days from order have passed. I'll see what they can do and let everyone know. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

I'm looking forward to your grow log being updated, and I hope all is well with you and yours, my friend!




Good luck with your bean order. I guess that just happens sometimes. Your plant, she is doing really fine, man. Good job with the journal too.Shov

Shov, it's good to see you again, my friend! I'm still hopeful about my beans too, but if they don't arrive, then you're exactly right - that's the risk I took. Thanks for your kind comments on MIQ and my log. I was able to show a couple of family members your harvest pictures over this past weekend, and their jaws hit the floor! Congratulations again on your last grow and harvest! I know you and yours will have an incredible July 4th celebration! Thanks again for stopping by!



Jake that mighty-freeze is looking healthy and is looking quite impressive! now is the mighty-freeze a autoflower strain? a few questions.. 1. how tall is she? 2. Whats the nut you are giving her. 3 How long has she been flowering for up to this point? 4. Whats the yeild (round about) that it's gonna produce? thanks. sorry for so many questions. :)

camoxnhx, thanks for the compliments on MIQ, bro! Here are a few responses to your questions:

1) MIQ is an autoflower strain - something I had guessed and come to conclude based upon watching her develop and from others' comments. She is a cross of Mighty Mite and Friesland, and she is a wicked smoke - based upon my experience with her ancestor(s). A very social and peppy high.

2) MIQ is probably around 1' to 1 1/2' in height. I haven't ever formally measured her.

3) During veg I gave her some Superthrive, based upon at first 1/2 measurement, then later upon full recommended dosage. Not long after she began blooming, I have been giving her Green Light Super Bloom - at first 1/2 dosage, and now a full dosage. However, without fail, after every flower feeding I have given her, it has rained buckets, so I'm guessing most, if not all, of her flower nutes have been flushed from her bucket. But, I still only provide her nutes maybe once a week.

4) As of today, MIQ has been flowering for approximately 36 days - It appears the lst slowed down her flowering, so she'll probably take a bit longer. Her buds have not filled in much at all, and she appears to be adding new sites every day or 2. Only a few of her pistils have dried to hairs, and she shows no signs of turning amber. I have run across no information on how long Mighty Freeze take to flower, but am planning on just watching her development, and taking my harvest cues from her.

5) As for what MIQ may yield - your guess is as good as mine at this point. She is my first real grow, so I don't know what to expect. If I had to guess, I would be willing to venture she will produce somewhere from 1/4 to 1 ounce dried? That's a pretty big range, considering the low weight. At one point, I would have said she'd be closer to a 1/4, but her bottom bud sites are really developing following her lst, so she may surprise me yet!



Well i just found out it was a autoflower. now have you tryed (or done) feeding molassess to you MIQ?

Another good question - I have not provided MIQ any molasses, but have read a very extensive article on this board about such. I was going to jet out to the store to purchase some blackstrap molasses, but I'm terrible about being sidetracked. I have not made it at this point, and don't know if I will. The concept of the molasses is mighty interesting - essentially providing carbohydrates/sugars to the plant to greater assist it in bud development. It seems like I've read great things about it on here, but I will probably continue to be lazy and provide MIQ only the Super Bloom I have on hand.

camoxnhx, I truly appreciate all of your inquiries, and there is absolutely no need to apologize for asking questions. I appreciate your interest in my log and MIQ, and will always provide whatever knowledge/insight I may have. Since I am a newbie grower, I don't have much knowledge/insight, but am happy to provide what I do have.

Take good care out there, and drop anytime! I look forward to following your log too, my friend!

camoxnhx
06-30-2008, 08:24 PM
i also for got at what internode did you LST you MIQ and do you know if it would work with LR 2?

jakezking
06-30-2008, 09:55 PM
i also for got at what internode did you LST you MIQ and do you know if it would work with LR 2?

Good question - I have absolutely no idea. I hooked MIQ with a large paper clip about 3/4 of the way up her stem, then bent her down to hook the other end of the paper clip on the lip of the bucket. MIQ is a fairly dense lil' lady, so I don't know that I could even get an accurate internodal count if I tried.

I probably should have lst'ed MIQ much earlier in her life, but had not done any research on Mighty Freeze strain to determine she was an autoflowerer, so I got sort of blind sided when she began flowering, thereby missing out on the chance to fim her.

Her main stem began budding up pretty thickly too only in the past few weeks, so I didn't see much need to lst her early on. But, now that I have lst'ed her, there is no doubt it was the right thing to do, as her bottom buds have really taken off! I'll probably post pics on or before Thursday of this week, due to ensuing July 4th celebration, and you will really be able to see how much MIQ's bottom buds have taken off, even since the last pictures were posted this past Thursday!

Thanks again for your questions, my friend! I truly do appreciate them. Maybe one day I can actually give you answers that will help?

greenatik
06-30-2008, 10:28 PM
i also for got at what internode did you LST you MIQ and do you know if it would work with LR 2?

you can lst literally any plant at any time. key word is low stress - if you start very young (1 to 2 nodes) than it is necessary to do it carefully and slowly. ive seen people lst their seedlings. i have topped plants and seen a definite stunt in progress (especially on youngins). but lst-ing should not stunt the plant, it is usually bending back up towards the light within 4-5 hours max

i see no reason that LR2 would be any different, besides the fact that the training would be primarily done during flower, which isn't a problem either

oh and jake, I am wondering why your leaves look like reveg leaves if its autoflower, is it 100% autoflower? have you noticed any revegging? you will usually see new shoots either coming out the top or sides of the bud

jakezking
07-01-2008, 01:03 PM
you can lst literally any plant at any time. key word is low stress - if you start very young (1 to 2 nodes) than it is necessary to do it carefully and slowly. ive seen people lst their seedlings. i have topped plants and seen a definite stunt in progress (especially on youngins). but lst-ing should not stunt the plant, it is usually bending back up towards the light within 4-5 hours max

i see no reason that LR2 would be any different, besides the fact that the training would be primarily done during flower, which isn't a problem either

oh and jake, I am wondering why your leaves look like reveg leaves if its autoflower, is it 100% autoflower? have you noticed any revegging? you will usually see new shoots either coming out the top or sides of the bud

greenatik, thanks for your visit as well as your impart of experienced knowledge of lst'ing! I am not certain if Mighty Freeze is 100% autoflower - there really isn't much information on Mighty Freeze on the internet. I should ask the friend of mine who was kind enough to pass some MF bud along, but I have repeatedly failed to inquire. As for the MIQ's lower bud leaf appearance, I feel it is attributable to the lst'ing, which seemed to allow the bottom bud sites to develop (re-veg). These sites really looked like D9's plants - check his log out! The leaf patterns were varied from 3 leaves to even 2 leaves and a single leaf in parts - very strange, but I attributed it to these lower sites finally obtaining a certain level of sunlight, thereby serving to throw them into a re-veg state.

I'll try to get some pictures on Thursday to really focus on the lower bud site development. Needless to say, I'm a huge fan of lst'ing - now more than ever! Lst'ing has served to increase the potential yield of MIQ at least 3-fold!

Thanks for taking on camoxnhx's last question with a more thorough and experienced answer, greenatik! And, thanks again for stopping by, my friend!

killfrenzi
07-01-2008, 09:12 PM
Your Plants Are Lookin Great! Well At Least Since The Last Pics You Posted...


Good Luck, And Hope To See More Pics.:greenthumb:

lunarose
07-02-2008, 05:20 AM
Hi,

I have always chalked the stunting baring any obvious cause to genetics. The stunted ones were of different strains, different sexes, grown different years and different nutes. And I don't believe I saw any difference between them when they were seedlings.

I had to do some list'ng myself today even after topping they all started to cram up into the top of the GH.

If your order doesn't come through I'd wait until Dec to try again, I've always believed that with all the holiday mail traffic there is less of a chance of it getting intercepted.

So when is harvest day?

jakezking
07-03-2008, 03:09 PM
Your Plants Are Lookin Great! Well At Least Since The Last Pics You Posted...


Good Luck, And Hope To See More Pics.:greenthumb:

killfrenzi, I'm glad to have you in my log! I am about to post some pictures I just took a couple of hours ago. I've been busy catching up on others' logs, and got sidetracked from posting to mine. I hope you enjoy the new pictures! Be good out there!



Hi,

I have always chalked the stunting baring any obvious cause to genetics. The stunted ones were of different strains, different sexes, grown different years and different nutes. And I don't believe I saw any difference between them when they were seedlings.

I had to do some list'ng myself today even after topping they all started to cram up into the top of the GH.

If your order doesn't come through I'd wait until Dec to try again, I've always believed that with all the holiday mail traffic there is less of a chance of it getting intercepted.

So when is harvest day?

lunarose, thanks for your insight on the stunting. I am going to chalk mine up to genetics too, as it takes MIQ's stunting off my hands! HA HA HA! I do hate to think I am the one that caused her short stature, but she's looking pretty good despite her restricted height.

Do you have a log or thread going? It sounds like you have quite a few grows under your belt, and would love to learn more from you! I am much like a sponge these days - soaking up everything around me, trying to learn as much as possible to improve my own grow(s).

As for the seed order, I went ahead and placed an order through Rhino. It was shipped yesterday, July 2nd, and from what I've read most folks receive their beans within 7-10 days - I'm keeping my fingers crossed. If this order doesn't make it, then I'm out of the ordering business, and will have to try to track down some beans through friends.

Harvest? I don't really have a date yet. Today MIQ is Day 63 of life for her, and she has been flowering for approximately 39 days - working on 6 weeks. Her new buds are still a bit thin, so I figure she has at least 3 weeks left, but will continue to monitor her progress, giving her the axe once she really shows some amber.

Thanks for coming back by, luna! I hope to see you more often!

jakezking
07-03-2008, 03:20 PM
Alright, I've been chompin' at the bit to post new pictures, as MIQ has really been working on her lower bud site development. Since the lst took place, MIQ's lower buds have taken off, and one of these bud sites is growing to about the same height as the main lst'ed cola.

Overall, I think MIQ is developing well. I'm looking for her to really begin to fatten her buds up, and will be adding some Green Light Super Bloom nutes to her soil today - it's been about 1 week since she last had bloom ferts, but I wanted to let her dry out a bit since all of the rain she had received. Her bucket was pretty soggy for a few days, but the perllite really makes the difference to allow better drainage.

I do have a question for those who are blessing my log with your presence. Take a look at pictures showing MIQ's lower leaves - they have a bunch of small "pinprick" yellow spots on them. I am attributing these spots to the work of a pest. I will search the board to try to find an answer to them. I have some insect spray that states it is fine to use on flowering plants right up to harvest - Schultz All Purpose Insect Killer, but I am reluctant to use it since I am thinking MIQ has only 1 month left to harvest? Any suggestions/advice in dealing with these spots would be appreciated. At the end of the day, I'm not too concerned with them, as they seem to be limited to the lower leaves; but, I don't want them to get out of hand.

I guess that's about all of the new information. As always, I look forward to your thoughts, comments, suggestions, or simply stoned messages. I hope all is well with everyone, and I hope you enjoy the pictures. Here they are....

danish
07-03-2008, 03:20 PM
looks good...
i hope my new ladies will do as good...
and thanks for tips i will take it into consideration for my girls ...

jakezking
07-03-2008, 03:24 PM
Here are the rest of the pictures. I always have a hard time selecting only 10 pictures from those I have taken. I hope you enjoy!

jakezking
07-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Just to provide a short update to the log - I have cut all of the leaves which showed signs of insect damage/infestation. There were probably only about 4 to 5 fan leaves, all of which were lower on MIQ, so I figured it would cause MIQ no harm. She still has plenty of leaves to feed her ripening buds.

I gave her a full dosage of flower nutes, and am excited to see how they treat her. She has been on a 1/4 to a 1/2 dosage for about 21 days, so I figured she could step up to a full scoop. I am going out of town for a couple of days, so it will be nice checking back in on her when I return.

I wish everyone a good, long weekend! Be good out there!

Mr.GoodMorning02
07-03-2008, 07:06 PM
wow jake, the lst really looks like it's paying off. those new bud sites are coming along nicely and from the last pics you posted, i'd say the second and third are excellent shots of the new growth.

i'm not sure how long she should flower for, but it looks like those bud sites can use some more time. and sorry to hear about the bugs, little critters can't keep their hands off god's gift either lol.

Hope you and everyone else has a wonderful holiday. enjoy the bbqs and fireworks. take care

-gmorning

lunarose
07-04-2008, 04:22 AM
Jake,

She is looking fine, being on the shorter side of life myself I say there is nothing wrong with a little stuntiness(VBG)

I haven't done a grow log yet. I am planning on picking up some clones next week,I have never grown from clones before so I may start one then. I haven't had very many grows the one I have now is my 4th and my first was a total disaster ended up killing 6 out of 7 and the seventh was pretty pathetic. I had a few grows in the 70s and 80s and growing then was so much easier! I'd just throw a couple seeds in a pot filled with whatever dirt I picked up, no nutes, watered whenever. Now I worry about everything!

Good luck with the seeds hopefully they'll make it to you this time. I always stress whenever I order seeds....which strains so many to choose from......should I order enough to last me a couple of grows knowing that I only have one outdoor grow a year so the seeds might not be used for a couple of years or do I order just enough for one grow and hope the seeds make it next time around....sigh really I am not anal(G)

GreenLeaf420
07-04-2008, 05:10 AM
Really nice looking Tight Plants. The Nodes can not be more closer:thumbsup:

Good Luck GL

anbesol
07-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Beautiful! Im sure your plant will be fine, i have heard that auto flowering cannabis strains are stronger plants. But that could have been complete bull shit since i read it on another forum.

Jerry Garcia 2007
07-05-2008, 04:15 AM
Looking good Jake,

I read a few posts back that you were thinking of using Mollasses.

Don't!!! My past experiance is it causes nute lock. your plants look healthy right now. Do not change a thing you are doing in your nute program except start adding a finishing nute like Fox Farm Cha-Ching.

LOL JG

camoxnhx
07-05-2008, 07:04 PM
so im just in awe right now jake... that mighty freeze is getting desiel!! thats gonna be a awsome yeild and smoke! im so intreged. Thanks for all your help and your info!

jakezking
07-05-2008, 08:16 PM
wow jake, the lst really looks like it's paying off. those new bud sites are coming along nicely and from the last pics you posted, i'd say the second and third are excellent shots of the new growth.

i'm not sure how long she should flower for, but it looks like those bud sites can use some more time. and sorry to hear about the bugs, little critters can't keep their hands off god's gift either lol.

Hope you and everyone else has a wonderful holiday. enjoy the bbqs and fireworks. take care

-gmorning

Mr.GoodMorning02, I appreciate your compliments, my friend! You are right in saying the lst is paying off - I am super excited and happy that I finally bent MIQ over, as she has really taken off! I agree with you that she has a bit longer to go; I'm thinking maybe another 4 weeks, but I will just watch her develop to see. I'm thinking about giving her nutes for another 2 weeks, then just putting her on a water diet to clean her out prior to harvest.

As for the bugs - I can't agree with you more, as I can't blame the bugs for doing exactly what I want to do. I hope you had an incredible 4th and are still enjoying your weekend! Be good out there!



Jake,

She is looking fine, being on the shorter side of life myself I say there is nothing wrong with a little stuntiness(VBG)

I haven't done a grow log yet. I am planning on picking up some clones next week,I have never grown from clones before so I may start one then. I haven't had very many grows the one I have now is my 4th and my first was a total disaster ended up killing 6 out of 7 and the seventh was pretty pathetic. I had a few grows in the 70s and 80s and growing then was so much easier! I'd just throw a couple seeds in a pot filled with whatever dirt I picked up, no nutes, watered whenever. Now I worry about everything!

Good luck with the seeds hopefully they'll make it to you this time. I always stress whenever I order seeds....which strains so many to choose from......should I order enough to last me a couple of grows knowing that I only have one outdoor grow a year so the seeds might not be used for a couple of years or do I order just enough for one grow and hope the seeds make it next time around....sigh really I am not anal(G)

I agree there is nothing wrong with being short; my Mom is a tiny lady, but she is tough as nails. She never had a problem keeping me under control, even though I'm almost 1' taller than she is. And, MIQ appears to be healthy, which is all I could have asked for on my first grow.

I can see how in this day and age of so many products out there, it's really hard to complete a grow. One wrong move with one wrong product, and your plant can be a goner. If I were you, I'd go back to the throwing a seed in a bucket and just giving it the bare essentials - water and sunlight. I've jumped in here and there and provided additional nutrients, but mostly I've tried to stand to the side and watch MIQ grow. It has been a difficult lesson in patience for me, because I've wanted her to do more, grow faster, and produce more - but, it was not her path. Allowing her to follow her own genetic predisposition has so far allowed her to lead a relatively healthy life. I hope she continues on her path!

I also know what you are talking about with seed ordering. I'm like a kid in a candy store - it's so hard to choose from all the amazing strains. If and when I get mine, I'll have to start a new log for them. It's getting late in the season, but I think I have enough of a season left in my neck of the woods.

Be good out there! It was good hearing from you again, luna!



Really nice looking Tight Plants. The Nodes can not be more closer:thumbsup:

Good Luck GL

GreenLeaf420! I appreciate your stopping by and leaving some compliments, bro! As short as MIQ is, it's nice she has developed so tightly, providing for an increase in yield while remaining vertically challenged. I'm really interested to see how dense her buds are upon harvest. I have not really touched them to this point, as I have not wanted to knock any trichs off.

Take good care out there, amigo, and drop back by anytime!



Beautiful! Im sure your plant will be fine, i have heard that auto flowering cannabis strains are stronger plants. But that could have been complete bull shit since i read it on another forum.

anbesol! Thanks for stopping by, my friend! I appreciate your comment and reassurance MIQ will be fine following her recent pest issue. I just checked on her after a few days absence, and she appears perfectly fine. It rained again while I was gone, serving to flush her bucket from the floweirng nutes I had just added on Thursday. But, I can't really complain, as she does appear awfully healthy! I'll have to check into the autoflower hardiness possibility - it has been pretty darn easy raising MIQ, and I wouldn't mind future, easy grows!

Thanks again for stopping by, and for reading my log. Come on back by to check in on MIQ, as her days are numbered!



Looking good Jake,

I read a few posts back that you were thinking of using Mollasses.

Don't!!! My past experiance is it causes nute lock. your plants look healthy right now. Do not change a thing you are doing in your nute program except start adding a finishing nute like Fox Farm Cha-Ching.

LOL JG

JG, I am excited you stopped by to provide me some insight into the use of mollasses! I was considering it, as it appeared to really help people get a big boost. I hate to hear you did not have good luck with it, but your experience has certainly helped me make up my mind. I like to try to keep things simple anyway, so not adding mollasses to the mix will help me do so! Thanks again for your insight, and for stopping by my log!

I hope all is well with you and yours and you enjoy the rest of your weekend!



so im just in awe right now jake... that mighty freeze is getting desiel!! thats gonna be a awsome yeild and smoke! im so intreged. Thanks for all your help and your info!

camoxnhx! Dude, I am certain your Mazar and LR2s will be looking even better than MIQ. I am getting excited about MIQ's final days, but I have to temper my excitement with patience, as she will have a couple of weeks, at least, of drying and curing following harvest. I know I will not want to wait, but I have heard some terrible stories of good bud gone bad due to failure to properly cure. I can't wait to update you and everyone else on the yield and smoke! And, I really don't have much experience or knowledge to impart for your grow, but will always give freely of what I have - until I am told to keep my trap shut!

I hope you are having a great weekend, and let's hope the remaining day and 1/2 will actually last awhile instead of racing by! Be good out there, my friend!

lunarose
07-08-2008, 12:46 AM
Jake,

You know I just realized your Mighty is an autoflowering strain that being the case your girl isn't stunted at all. The autoflowering strains are small they are suppose to go from seed to harvest in something like 8 weeks and only reach about 1-2ft so she is just perfect.

So what seeds did you decide on? I have always been partial to the white widow because it is one of the easier ones to grow and have a decent yield. I want to try PPP, Ice, Jack Hera and maybe a land race indica..... I just got three clones today so I may be starting a grow log.

jakezking
07-08-2008, 01:45 AM
luna, thanks for straightening me out on MIQ. I have not even though about that very logical fact! That makes perfect sense! I had read somewhere that others' Mighty Freeze strains grow upwards of 5', but being that they are autoflowerers, I don't see how that is possible, since so much energy is automatically shifted to flowering rather than vegetative growth at a certain time. Who knows? Maybe after a few more grows and years of experience under my belt, I'll come to know and understand more.

As for the beans, I ordered Nirvana's PPP (again), Nirvana's Bubblicious, and Seedsman's Colombian Red Haze. I'm really looking forward to the Red Haze, as it's 80% sativa, and I've really been wanting to try a good sativa! I was doing some reading today about a "Dalat" strain of sativa from Vietnam - may have to track some of that down!

What strains are your 3 clones? You should start a log up - I'd love to follow it! Thanks for stopping by again!

jakezking
07-08-2008, 01:53 AM
While I'm awaiting the arrival of my pedigree beans, my bro-in-law and sister were kind enough to share 8 bagbeans with me. I began germinating 4 of them on Saturday, and they are beginning to pop. They should be ready for jiffy pellets in the next day or 2 - we'll see where they take me.

I don't know much about the genetics of the bagweed. It was pretty darn good for being as cheap as he got it. It appeared to be some commercial bricked weed. It was a nice relaxing bud, from what I could tell - we were busy mixing it with some bud a friend of mine gave me (his stuff is wicked - same friend that gave me the Mighty Freeze).

Also, MIQ seems to have really slowed her pistil development while her buds have been elongating. Does anyone know if such development, or lack thereof, is normal? I guess maybe she will begin producing pistils/more pistils again once she starts fattening her buds up? I'm just a little curious - I'll search around for an answer to these questions too, just in case no one comments on them.

Anyway, I'll keep everyone updated with MIQ and the new beans - both those ordered and those sprouting.

jakezking
07-08-2008, 01:27 PM
Alright, so I have a lot of questions now that I have done a bit more investigating about the bud elongation issue MIQ is having. Her buds look like a braided rope, as the calyxes have not opened for pistils to "flower" out. I am not certain I have anything to be concerned with at this point, but thought I would document this issue for future reference.

I was doing a bit of reading in my 2d office, and came across a term, "stacking calyxes," in a discussion of bud development and the concept of additional flowering phases. Since MIQ has been flowering for some time, this article made sense to me, and I reached a preliminary conclusion that due to the lst'ing and additional vegetative stage MIQ experienced which served to slow/halt her flowering cycle, MIQ is now entering a 2d flowering phase, causing her to elongate her buds through this stacking of calyxes.

However, when I searched the board this morning, I came across this thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/105694-elongating-buds.html?highlight=stacking+calyxes. It seems to highlight MIQ's issue and the experienced growers and powers that be conclusively determined the issue to be the result of heat stress. The pictures in the thread were not the greatest, due to grow room lighting, so I couldn't really compare them to MIQ. I will post pictures of her within this reply for comparison purposes and to allow/encourage comments/suggestions.

MIQ has been outside from about Day 13 of her life, and the temperatures have remained fairly constant - in the high 80's to mid 90's. Since she has experienced the heat from the beginning of her life and has not had an issue to this point in time, I hope heat stress is not the cause of these stacking calyxes. I am going to do a bit more research on this issue to hopefully come up with an answer for myself. However, any and all input/suggestions/advice is welcomed and will be appreciated.

Here are the pictures which should clearly show the stacking calyxes on MIQ. I've also thrown in a picture of some gerbera daisies. My wife took the picture, and I really like it. Since several outdoor growers I appreciate have thrown in pictures of their natural surroundings, such picture is my feeble attempt to reciprocate.

Thanks again for any light you can shed on this stacking calyxes issue.

zebulon
07-08-2008, 02:18 PM
I think there is nothing wrong whit your MIQ. That is some secondary growth, which is normal for Mighty Mite. I found some info which says that in 6-8 week of flowering MM buds "explode"....which means the buds show some new growth....MM is a indica/ruderalis hybrid...
I think MIQ is a little confused because she has started to flower before it would be normal, and now that the days are getting shorter she is flowering for the second time....imo....it is normal for this strain...she will keep on flowering for some time and than you will be able to harvest some nice buds...
So, keep up the great work my friend....I'm really exited about the new seeds you ordered, those are some awesome strains....it will be a great show...:thumbsup:
And the daisies are beautiful.....thanks.....:hippy:

jakezking
07-08-2008, 03:46 PM
zebulon, you TOTALLY ROCK! I truly appreciate you taking time to answer my questions. You've given me clear, concise answers to all of the questions that have plagued me throughout this, my first grow. You have gone the extra mile, and for that I am extremely grateful, my friend! Thanks!

zebulon
07-08-2008, 05:00 PM
Hey, no problem Jake....i'm happy i could help...i really like this log, it will be great when your seeds arrive and you gonna grow out those lovely strains....can't wait to see it...:hippy:
And MIQ looks really great and frosty, it will be some premium quality herb for sure....

hydrocannabis
07-08-2008, 05:22 PM
hell yah. :thumbsup: way up.

that bud looks like hightimes worthy.

jakezking
07-08-2008, 05:31 PM
Hey, no problem Jake....i'm happy i could help...i really like this log, it will be great when your seeds arrive and you gonna grow out those lovely strains....can't wait to see it...:hippy:
And MIQ looks really great and frosty, it will be some premium quality herb for sure....

Thanks for the compliments to MIQ, zeb! I hope to be able to show you a grow with the new beans - I'm keeping my fingers crossed as they should be here in the next couple of days. Thanks again for all of your help!



hell yah. :thumbsup: way up.

that bud looks like hightimes worthy.

hydro, thanks much for that amazing compliment! I don't know about being High Times worthy, as there are better candidates on this board for certain; but, I truly appreciate your sentiment, my friend! I need to drop by to see how all of your lovely ladies are doing! You have quite a few on your hands. Thanks for stopping by!

killa12345
07-08-2008, 06:03 PM
Jakezking......man thanks for the kind words man...your plants are awesome......i would love to have some shorter plants.....im just hoping the lawnman doesnt find thing 1......

I would try Dr. Chronic's Seed Bank.....Honestly, i dont work for him, or even live on the same continent for that matter...I order my seeds on a week day and they get here 3-6 days later....no joke....every single order, like clockwork..If i order on Thursday or Friday...i start looking on Monday, Tuesday for my beans....always freebies...most of the time better than the beans you ordered....check his customer satisfaction thead at his forum on hg420(1000's of positive feedback, always replaced cracked seeds). Id give him a try...ill never order from any one different.

killa12345
07-08-2008, 06:17 PM
Heres a link on the Hempy buckets by Hempy himself...

Cannabis and Marijuana seeds :: HomeGrown420 - The Hempy Bucket (http://213.171.206.23/showthread.php?t=1800)

Its just a sealed bucket with a 1/2 inch hole on the side an inch - 2 inches from the bottom filled with 4 parts perlite: 1 pt vermiculite......or all perlite....cover hole with screen.

Perlite = water retainning medium
Vermiculite = water wicking meduim

Just feed till you get water to come out of the hole water every 1-3 days...and your done.

It is so easy...i cant begin to tell you...i didnt get one burnt leaf thoughout the grow. If you have any question feel free to ask.

jakezking
07-08-2008, 06:43 PM
killa12345, dude, I seriously appreciate the referral to Dr. Chronic. I ordered from Rhino about 1 week ago, and over 1 month before that from Seed Boutique. I have not received anything from Boutique, and have written it off as being clipped by Customs, even though I have not received any notice of same. I am anxiously awaiting the Rhino order, which I expect in the next day or 2. If Rhino does not come through, I have been informed by my better 1/2 that I will not be ordering again for awhile. However, when I am next given the green light, I will try Chronic based upon your referral. It's nice to now know of his customer satisfaction and your good luck with him.

I'll also keep my fingers crossed Thing 1 does not come to anyone's attention. He is an amazing looking White Skunk, and even though he is a he, I am certain you could experiment with some selected pollination.

Thanks for stopping by my grow log, my friend! I wish you much success with your impending grow, beans, and tent! I am looking into the prospect of a tent as well, so I will be keeping an eye out for your review of the hut you ordered. Take good care out there!

EDIT/ADDITION
And, I just saw your post on the Hempy buckets. Dude, I'm going to seriously look into them. They sound incredible! Thanks again!

lunarose
07-08-2008, 08:34 PM
Jake,

I have probably bitten more then I can chew with the clones but at $10 a piece I figured it would be worth a try. I have one Apoth OG, one D. OG and one trainwreck....we'll see. I will probably start a grow log on the three in the next day or two (provided I don't kill them off<G>). The biggest problem I am dealing with is the heat even with opening the vents and running a fan its too hot highs in the 100s!

jakezking
07-10-2008, 02:26 PM
Alright, so I really enjoy taking pictures of MIQ's growth and progress, as it's really nice to be able to look back to see a detailed progression. She is really beginning to fill out, and zebulon is certainly proven correct in that she was simply undergoing an extra growth spurt. The "stacking calyxes" were a good sign of growth in this instance rather than a sign of heat stress, which I should have known since there were no additional signs of heat stress - although I had thought I might have been over-fertilizing her, which was causing the "braided rope" appearance. Thanks again, zeb, for your experienced input!

The stacked calyxes have finally begun opening their sweet mouths to stick their double-tongued pistils out at the world! And, all of the new pistil development is a sight for sore eyes, as I was becoming impatient as to whether MIQ would really put on some bud weight. MIQ is now sporting 3 good-sized buds, with many more smaller bud sites here and there.

I unhooked the paper clip from around MIQ's neck and the side of the bucket, as with all of the rain we've been getting, her roots were beginning to pull out of the soil a bit. Also, the lst seems to have done the trick, and there doesn't seem to be much point now in keeping her lst'ed over, as the new bud sites are large enough to get plenty of sunlight. MIQ's main cola has grown accustomed to the lst, so I think it will remain in its present curved shape, allowing the other smaller bud sites to continue receiving plenty of sunlight.

I took a few pictures this morning, following a nice little rain storm earlier in the morning. I was even able to grab a decent picture of a rainbow that formed to the West.

I'll add some "up-closer" pictures in a follow-up post. As always, I hope you kick up your feet, and stay awhile. Enjoy!

jakezking
07-10-2008, 02:45 PM
Here are the additional pictures. Enjoy!

Shovelhandle
07-10-2008, 03:39 PM
I like that! Must be close to finishing up, yes?

jakezking
07-10-2008, 04:52 PM
I wanted to hit MIQ with another last shot of bloom nutes, thereafter putting her on straight-up water for the rest of her grow. I don't have a loupe or other magnification method to really take a close look at her trichomes, but I have not noticed any amber - don't know that my naked eye would really be able to notice cloudy. But, I feel after 1 last shot of Super Bloom, the 30 day water only period will allow sufficient time for the trichs to amber a bit.

My present smoke is a true couchlock, so I don't want a medium or high percentage of amber trichomes - another reason I think she'll be ready in the next 30+ days. How was that answer? Sorry for getting so long-winded, but I really like talking about MIQ - just ask my wife!

Thanks for stopping by again, Shov! I'm really surprised to see you gettin' around so well, given the fact you have an eLBow of fine herb layin' around, callin' your name!

zebulon
07-10-2008, 07:14 PM
The stacked calyxes have finally begun opening their sweet mouths to stick their double-tongued pistils out at the world!
:S2:


She looks Mighty fine......:thumbsup:

I would say if you don't have a jewelers loupe, go whit the hairs - pistils. If they turn mostly brown, chop her up...

jakezking
07-11-2008, 12:22 AM
She looks Mighty fine......:thumbsup:

I would say if you don't have a jewelers loupe, go whit the hairs - pistils. If they turn mostly brown, chop her up...

zeb, my friend, as always you provide some very sound and informative advice! I humbly thank you once again! She has a few brown/red hairs from some aged/dry pistils, but very few. I will hit her with 1 last dose of Super Bloom tomorrow, then she'll get nothing but water the rest of her days.

MIQ's position in the outdoor forum will be replaced by 4 up and coming bagbeans who were placed within a paper towel on Saturday, July 5, 2008. All 4 exhibited a 1/2 inch taproot yesterday, Wednesday, July 9, 2008, so I placed them in Jiffy pellets. They each shed their bean shell today, and I have placed them in a window sill. We'll see where they go from here. Just for posterity's sake, I am posting a picture of these girls. I thought I'd also share a picture of a poolside hibiscus.

Enjoy!

hydrocannabis
07-11-2008, 01:25 AM
Dammmmm thats a beautiful ass bud.:thumbsup:

and good luck on growin the other beens.

PJWill24
07-11-2008, 01:31 AM
Damn, real nice looking buds dude......:thumbsup:

anbesol
07-11-2008, 01:45 AM
How do they smell?

jakezking
07-11-2008, 05:06 AM
Dammmmm thats a beautiful ass bud.:thumbsup:

and good luck on growin the other beens.

hydro, man with all the buds you've got growin', for you to to give some props like that, I really appreciate it, man! I'll need all the luck I can get on these beans - but, it will be interesting growing some bagbeans, but I can't wait for the pedigreed beans to make it here. I'm beginning to think these got nabbed too!



Damn, real nice looking buds dude......:thumbsup:

PJWill24, I appreciate the compliment, especially since this is my first grow. It ain't over yet though! Probably another 2 months until MIQ is all cured and ready for the smoke report. It's gonna be tough waiting that long! Thanks for stopping by, bro! Be good out there!



How do they smell?

Now that's a darn good question, anbesol! You've hit upon a topic that I have not yet covered, even in the slightest. And, it's primarily because I have had a tough time really discerning what MIQ smells like. MIQ has had a pretty strong smell from the beginning, but really only discernable once you touched her. Over time her scent really developed. At this point, you can smell her within about a 4 foot radius.

As to the particulars on her scent, I've settled on sour. There is a slight underscore of chlorphyll. That's about the best I can do at this point. Dang good question. Thanks for stoppin' on in, my friend!

jakezking
07-11-2008, 08:52 PM
Well, I had to update the thread to let everyone know my beans have arrived safe and sound from Rhino! I won't go into the specifics as to how they were shipped - per stinky's suggestion in order to retain mystery as to each company's methods.

I am about to go pop them into a wet paper towel to begin the germination process. It should prove interesting, and I am looking forward to playing around with some fine new genetics.

I thought I'd share a picture of the bean envelopes. The beans are Nirvana PPP, Nirvana Bubblelicious, and Seedsman Colombian Red Haze. SWEET! Enjoy!

zebulon
07-11-2008, 09:57 PM
:woohoo: That's great news Jake....:thumbsup:

zebulon
07-12-2008, 12:58 AM
What are your plans?? In or out?? Outdoors i would say you still can get some yield, but they are not gonna be huge due to shortening days....it also depends on how far up north you live...

anbesol
07-12-2008, 02:13 AM
Bubbalicious? you going to try out your luck with that like bombdiggity? good luck jake!

lunarose
07-12-2008, 04:01 AM
Jake,

Oh boy new genetics what fun! I will be interested in how your PPP does I have heard some good things about it. Are you going to grow them outside or inside?

greenatik
07-12-2008, 06:11 AM
nice jake, I am glad your beans arrived :thumbsup: :D

that red haze sounds interesting, can't wait for everything to get goin!

miq is lookin tasty as well :food10:

peace man!

killa12345
07-12-2008, 12:54 PM
glad your seeds finally came....Nice.....Now we can see great things from u bro.....good luck on the new gear!:thumbsup:

jakezking
07-12-2008, 01:42 PM
:woohoo: That's great news Jake....:thumbsup:

What are your plans?? In or out?? Outdoors i would say you still can get some yield, but they are not gonna be huge due to shortening days....it also depends on how far up north you live...

zeb, I appreciate you feeling my enthusiam too! I am really excited to have just received the beans, as I thought they would be nabbed. As for my plans.... I am going to grow them outside, as I still have until around September 22nd for vegetative growth, and due to my location will have plenty of time before Jack Frost comes along. But, it will be a bit of an experiment to see how well they will do this late in the season.

I am only germinating 1 bean of each PPP, Bubblelicious, and Red Colombian Haze. And, the only plant I may have problems with is the RCHaze, as it's dominant sativa and is supposed to take dang near 3 months of flowering!

All of these beans are now going to drive me inside though, so I should have some fun even during the winter months. Thanks, as always, for stopping by, zeb. I hope all is well with you, my friend!



Bubbalicious? you going to try out your luck with that like bombdiggity? good luck jake!

anbesol, I know better than to tangle with Chuck Norris. Then again, I think if Chuck Norris and Fat Elvis were to fight, it would result in something akin to a nuclear blast. Those 2 dudes are/were some bad mammajammas. I am looking forward to the BBL though, as bombdiggity did a darn fine job with it, and it looked outstanding. We'll see how well it does outside! I appreciate your stopping by, my friend, and thanks for the well wishes - I'll need them!



Jake,

Oh boy new genetics what fun! I will be interested in how your PPP does I have heard some good things about it. Are you going to grow them outside or inside?

luna! Good to see you again. The first round will be grown outside - we'll see how well it works out with such a late season grow. I know I will have plenty of veg time, and I'm pretty confident the BBL and PPP will have plenty of flower time; but, I'm not certin if the CRH will have time - only time will tell, eh? It should be fun!

I'm looking forward to the PPP too! should has done a darn fine job making this strain look outstanding - you should check out his thread to see a mighty fine PPP specimen - he had a bit of a bat guano issue, but has overcome it great! And, zeb has a PP that is 2d only to his Big Bang in size and performance, so the genetics should overcome my newbie grow skills!

But, I'm not putting all of my beans in 1 bucket, as I'm only working with 1 bean of each at this point. I wanted to save the rest for an indoor grow - to be set up beginning in the Fall. I've got some ideas, and I may have to burn my Christmas present on the setup; but, I think it will all work out. I just need to get my plans firmed up.

I hope all's going well with your grows. It sounds like your WWs are a sight to behold! Take care out there, luna!



nice jake, I am glad your beans arrived :thumbsup: :D

that red haze sounds interesting, can't wait for everything to get goin!

miq is lookin tasty as well :food10:

peace man!

greenatik, it's good to see you again, my friend! Yeah, the CRH really caught my eye when I was thumbing through strains on the Rhino site. 20% THC levels? Holy smokes! That's all it took to sell me on it. I did a Google search on it too, and ran across a grow log on another board. The grower started it out on 12/12 because of the long flower period, and he had some good results, even though he had to harvest early. Therefore, even though this is a late season planting and RCF is a long flowerer, I expect to still get a pretty good yield!

I can't wait to check back in on Pilav! She was looking mighty tasty the last I saw of her. I know she was showing new pistil development too - the glory of the sativa, eh? But, the long flowering looks/sounds like it's worth it! Be good out there, my friend!



glad your seeds finally came....Nice.....Now we can see great things from u bro.....good luck on the new gear!:thumbsup:

killa12345! I appreciate the visit, bro! I don't know about getting great things from me - I like to just putter along in the crowd, doing my own thing so as not to draw attention to myself. But, when you're an extra large Elvis impersonator, sometimes you just stand out from the crowd, eh? Luckily for me, I'm nothing like the avatar.

I can't wait to get some taproots out of the PPP, BBL, and RCF. They were put in paper towels yesterday, and are beginning to wrinkle up a bit, so maybe in the next day or 2 they will hit their Jiffy pellets.

For the time being though, I get to plant a few of the bagbeans today, so that should keep my attention diverted from the pedigreed beans for awhile.

Thanks for stopping in, killa! I can't wait to see you with your new setup and genetics, as well as check out that Critically Smashed!

killa12345
07-12-2008, 03:10 PM
I should have a critically smashed log up in a few days(i tried my typical germinating method, and it failed for 5 days, placed them in jiffy pellets, and the seeds cracked in a day).... im using the old setup for the time being.....I ordered the homebox, and seeds.....just waiting there arrival... I will dedicate the homebox XL to the CH9 Fem Seeds i bought.....to my understanding.....CH9 green bud is a reworked female version of Ed's "super bud" cubed with 5 female pollens to get the fem seeds. Should be nice....the reviews are always great...so

And good luck on the new bagseed grow....i also live in a place that flowers late outside, which might be the reason i have to kill all my outdoor plants.....i started them in april.....and now they are like 4 ft tall.

Shovelhandle
07-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Best of luck with your new grow. When are you planning on starting? I ask because I'll be starting my next indoor grow in about 8 weeks and I'll be having my new log along with yours.

It's great to have pot "coming out your ears" <G> I just made a batch of butter, used about 1/3 for a batch of banana bread. Hoping that they are KILLER as I'm going to my bud's 60th bday party and he loves edibles. He has such a high tolerence to smoking that edibles are a real treat for him.

later, fatty (my buddy's name too!)

Sho

jakezking
07-12-2008, 04:51 PM
I should have a critically smashed log up in a few days(i tried my typical germinating method, and it failed for 5 days, placed them in jiffy pellets, and the seeds cracked in a day).... im using the old setup for the time being.....I ordered the homebox, and seeds.....just waiting there arrival... I will dedicate the homebox XL to the CH9 Fem Seeds i bought.....to my understanding.....CH9 green bud is a reworked female version of Ed's "super bud" cubed with 5 female pollens to get the fem seeds. Should be nice....the reviews are always great...so

And good luck on the new bagseed grow....i also live in a place that flowers late outside, which might be the reason i have to kill all my outdoor plants.....i started them in april.....and now they are like 4 ft tall.

killa12345, I'm glad to hear about the Smashed popping! It's gotta be the name that has me so excited about following that grow, as I don't know a darn thing about it. I'm sure it will live up to its name for you! I haven't read anything about the CH9 either - I need to branch out more often. I know it will love being all up in that tent! Those outdoor plants sound like flippin' monsters! That's a heck of a problem to be on your hands - is there any lower development so you could just cut them back?

I'm excited about your new log, my friend, and I know you will have plenty of luck on your side this go 'round; but, you also have the know-how and the minds of many an experienced grower around you on this board to help you along where needed. Without the folks on this board, I would have killed MIQ off long ago! Have a good weekend, my friend!



Best of luck with your new grow. When are you planning on starting? I ask because I'll be starting my next indoor grow in about 8 weeks and I'll be having my new log along with yours.

It's great to have pot "coming out your ears" <G> I just made a batch of butter, used about 1/3 for a batch of banana bread. Hoping that they are KILLER as I'm going to my bud's 60th bday party and he loves edibles. He has such a high tolerence to smoking that edibles are a real treat for him.

later, fatty (my buddy's name too!)

Sho

Sho, I need all the luck in the world, so thanks for heapin' more upon me! I just put a few beans in paper towels yesterday for a late season roll of the dice. I don't really know when I'll be trying to set up an indoor tent. It stays pretty warm around these parts for awhile to come, and I haven't quite figured out location of the indoor operation - there's some finagling and wrangling to do before I can really map something out. What are you going to grow this go 'round?

Man, that banana bread sounds good, and it will make a helluva birthday treat for your bro - a really generous and kind offering. How does your latest batch of bud treat your friend's tolerance? I would expect he can still fly with the birds off your 4th of July special, eh? It sounds like it will be a heck of a party - have a great time, my friend!

killa12345
07-12-2008, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the kind words....the Critically Smashed were freebies from Dr. Chronic....They are supposedly a cross breed between Mr. Nice's Critical Mass x White Rhino

jakezking
07-13-2008, 10:39 PM
killa, I know you are anxious to get started. Have you gotten any good taproots on your Critically Smashed? Any cotyledons?

I thought I'd share a couple of pictures of the bagbeans that are on Day 3 of their lives - the soap opera has begun. They have their cotyledons and their 1st set of real "sho-nuff" leaves. They're now outside, but are shielded from heavy rains which seek to destroy them. The 4th bagbean that germed is now a goner - I pulled the bean shell off her way too early.

I have also thrown in a pic of the paper towels where the pedigreed beans reside. The PPP already has about a 1/4 inch taproot; the Bubblelicious has cracked and is starting to snake out a bit of a root, and the Colombian Red Haze has cracked being just a bit behind the BBL.

The pictures aren't that impressive, but I just wanted to document the early stages. Y'all be good out there!

Mr.GoodMorning02
07-14-2008, 02:26 AM
hey jake, hows that miq doing? from the last pics, looks like she's still going strong. happy to hear your beans didn't get nabbed and they're all on their way, good luck on the ratios (female/male, sprout/dud)

i'll be checkin in...

gmorning

anbesol
07-14-2008, 02:23 PM
Are you starting a grow log for those babies 2? and are those for your indoor grow or your outdoor?

Puffzter
07-15-2008, 02:03 AM
Hi man.
Nice project you have going there. I would love to be able to grow a few plants outside as well as indoors as I am now but that wont be possible for me sadly.

Good things is I dont need to worry about dogs, insects and hard weather downside is that it would be lovelly to have a project like yours that would give me something so take care of under the (sometimes) clear sky. :)

Good luck with your babies m8.

Puffzter

My grow @
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/158828-5-white-widow-feminized-coco.html

jakezking
07-19-2008, 09:57 PM
hey jake, hows that miq doing? from the last pics, looks like she's still going strong. happy to hear your beans didn't get nabbed and they're all on their way, good luck on the ratios (female/male, sprout/dud)

i'll be checkin in...

gmorning

Mr.GoodMorning02, I appreciate you stopping by again! And, good morning to you! I'm about to update MIQ finally, so you'll see she's doing pretty well. My guess is she has about 2 weeks left before harvest. I'll also provide a bit of an update on the beans - PPP is doing great; BBL is in a Jiffy pellet still, and CRH is in the same condition.

I hope all is well with you, bro! Be good out there!



Are you starting a grow log for those babies 2? and are those for your indoor grow or your outdoor?

I don't know if I will start a log on the bagbeans and the pedigreed beans. I may update this log from time to time even after MIQ. But, it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep up with this log. We'll see where things take these plants - they will be grown outside though.

Thanks for stopping by to check in on MIQ and the other lil' girls. I'm lookin' forward to catchin' up on your log too!



Hi man.
Nice project you have going there. I would love to be able to grow a few plants outside as well as indoors as I am now but that wont be possible for me sadly.

Good things is I dont need to worry about dogs, insects and hard weather downside is that it would be lovelly to have a project like yours that would give me something so take care of under the (sometimes) clear sky. :)

Good luck with your babies m8.

Puffzter

My grow @
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/158828-5-white-widow-feminized-coco.html

Puffzter, it's nice to see you in my log, bro! Growing outside seems to be a whole lot easier than inside. I'm still trying to figure out how/when/if I will set up an indoor grow. I'll probably be plaguing all of you indoor guys with tons of questions.

Good luck on your grow - I've got a lot of catching up to do on a bunch of logs, and yours is on the list. Take care, amigo!

jakezking
07-19-2008, 10:49 PM
Alright, I've been pretty derelict in updating this log - my apologies. Life must be lived.

MIQ is looking really great these days. She is absolutely covered in glistening trichomes. I even notice a few small winged insects had been trapped on the resinous trichomes - much like fly paper!

I obtained a 30x loupe, and in looking at MIQ this morning most of her trichs have become quite cloudy. A lot of her pistils are drying into some nice reddish brown hairs. Strangely enough though, many of her calyxes still have not extended their pistils, especially on the underside of her main bud (I leaned her bucket over to take some good underbelly shots of her main bud - I was really impressed with those shots).

As for her smell - after thinking about it for awhile, I've settled upon a sour lemony smell. So thick if you disturb her trichs that you can almost taste it.

I plan on continuing to look at MIQ's trichs to determine when to harvest her, and am thinking she only has a couple of weeks left. I'm really torn on how much amber to allow, as I really want an up high, but that couchlock, eating frenzy buzz is pretty nice too. I may have to flip a coin to decide.

Well, enough of my rambling, and on with the pictures. In a separate post below, I will update a bit on the bagbeans and the pedigreed beans.

I hope all is well with everyone here - Be good out there!

jakezking
07-19-2008, 10:52 PM
Here are the rest of the MIQ pictures. I tried to get as much detail of her as possible.

I hope you enjoy them.

Aloha

jakezking
07-19-2008, 11:03 PM
I thought I would give a brief update on the bagbeans and the PPP, which is the only pedigreed bean to really be thriving. The Bubblelicious and Colombian Red Haze sprouted some pretty good taproots, and since I was going out of town for a few days I decided to put them in Jiffy pellets a bit early; they have been in the pellets 1 day shorter than the PPP, and have yet to stick their heads above the peat; but, their roots seem to be thriving, so I'm letting them take their time.

The bagbeans are on their 4th node already, and appear to be really strong. The only difference I see between the PPP and the bagbeans at this point (yeah, the PPP has already caught up with them at 3 nodes - it seems to be an incredibly strong strain!), is the PPP's nodes seem to be grouped more tightly, and the bagbeans seem to stretch more between nodes.

I've only included a few of pictures. The first is a nice group shot with the PPP on the far right. The 2d shot is a representative shot of the bagbeans development (a close up of 1 of them); and, the 3d picture is a close up of the PPP.

I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. Be good to each other!

Dutch Pimp
07-20-2008, 08:42 AM
Here are the rest of the MIQ pictures. I tried to get as much detail of her as possible.

I hope you enjoy them.

Aloha

Looking good, jakezking...:thumbsup:

I wish I could grow outside (sigh)..:(...too many choppers around here...:s4::apachecopter:

...anyways...it looks like you got the outside growing down pat...have you got that inside growing plan ready yet?...it's a lot of fun too...:smokin:

ps...if the loupe don't suit you...try this from Radio Shack...$12...:cool:...(snip a very small piece of bud leaf and put it on a white paper plate, 60x100)...enjoy.

lunarose
07-21-2008, 12:01 AM
Jake,

You new grow is looking fine and your MQ is making my mouth water. I had read a while back that self flowering strains do not get amber pistils but that is obviously wrong since your lovely lady has them. Good to know for future reference since I may try to a grow with them this winter.

It doesn't surprise me that your PPP is the same size as your bagseeds while your other two are still a lot smaller since the PPP is suppose to be a hearty big grower.

Will you be starting a new grow log with the babies?

jakezking
07-24-2008, 03:25 PM
Looking good, jakezking...:thumbsup:

I wish I could grow outside (sigh)..:(...too many choppers around here...

...anyways...it looks like you got the outside growing down pat...have you got that inside growing plan ready yet?...it's a lot of fun too...:smokin:

ps...if the loupe don't suit you...try this from Radio Shack...$12...(snip a very small piece of bud leaf and put it on a white paper plate, 60x100)...enjoy.

DP, man, it's nice of you to stop by my log. It's sort of winding down, due to work really putting a crimp in my style, but sometimes you have to go with the flow in life. I don't know about me having the outdoor growing down - I had some bad luck with beans and my PPP here lately, which I will detail in another post below; but, you can't keep a good man down, so I'm picking myself up, dusting myself off, and continuing onward - whether it's the right or wrong path, I couldn't tell you.

Thanks for the headsup on that mini microscope. It looks like it would be a whole lot easier than the loupe. The loupe works like a champ, but is sometimes difficult for me to manipulate into the exactly right position.

Thanks again for stopping by, my friend. I hope to see you around these parts again soon! Be good out there!



Jake,

You new grow is looking fine and your MQ is making my mouth water. I had read a while back that self flowering strains do not get amber pistils but that is obviously wrong since your lovely lady has them. Good to know for future reference since I may try to a grow with them this winter.

It doesn't surprise me that your PPP is the same size as your bagseeds while your other two are still a lot smaller since the PPP is suppose to be a hearty big grower.

Will you be starting a new grow log with the babies?

luna, it's good to see you again. I was able to steal away a bit from work to make a post today. MIQ was looking so good, I could not resist harvesting her. Her pistils were beginning to dry up mighty nicely, and most of her trichs were cloudy with a few turning amber. I have some good couchlock grass, and wanted some pick me up, so I thought I would see if I could get an up high out of MIQ at an earlier harvest.

Bad news with the PPP, but the bagbeans are doing great! I think I am going to drop a few more pedigreed beans today, as I have to see what they can really do.

Thanks for popping in again, luna. Take good care out there!

Haro bmx 420
07-24-2008, 03:36 PM
Hey jake, nice to meet you and I must say, you have got some hardy little babes there! Looks like all nug no stem :wtf: aha wow they sure are lookin good and I hope you have some better luck with the beans and the PPP, outdoor seems to be waterin itself this year in canada :rasta:

jakezking
07-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Ok, so I'm a bit of an impatient person, but there is also a rhyme to my reason. The jar of grass I presently have to smoke is real couchlock, quality stuff - it is a mixture of 3 different strains a buddy provided me. As variety is the spice of life, I was shooting for some really pick me up, cerebral smoke, so I decided to harvest MIQ on Tuesday, which was Day 82 of her life and Day 58 of flower.

I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but I sort of felt bad pulling her out of her bucket after the past nearly 3 months of taking care of her. And, she seemed so much larger in the bucket - strange. Her root system looked to be in really good shape.

For harvest, I pulled her out of her bucket, thoroughly rinsed her roots with tap water, to clean all of the soil off them, then I hung her upside down for 1 day. Her roots were completely dry after a full day of hanging out, and her fan leaves had shriveled. I've read it takes a good long while for a plant to completely dry when roots are left intact. But, I wanted to see if leaving the roots intact would provide 1 last gasp for her to really try to pop her flowering in hopes of reproducing. I won't have anything to compare it to, but hope it helped some.

I will post the pics of MIQ's last day of life, and a pic of her hanging to dry with root ball intact. The drying/curing process will continue in a subsequent post below.

jakezking
07-24-2008, 03:54 PM
Hey jake, nice to meet you and I must say, you have got some hardy little babes there! Looks like all nug no stem :wtf: aha wow they sure are lookin good and I hope you have some better luck with the beans and the PPP, outdoor seems to be waterin itself this year in canada :rasta:

Haro bmx 420, it's nice to meet you too, bro! I'm glad you stopped by and hope you like reading and viewing my log. MIQ ended up being a mighty fine strain - Mighty Freeze, which I started out not knowing a dang thing about, nor anything about growing. This board and it's incredible members led me to understand a thing here and there, so MIQ faired well in life, hopefully leading me to fair well in her ripening/curing.

My bagbeans are doing great, as you will see below in a post yet to be added at this time. The PPP was doing great, but she suffered a life-ending accident. But, never fear, I have 27 more beans!

I hope to see you around more, Haro! Be good out there, and thanks again for stopping by!

hydrocannabis
07-24-2008, 04:03 PM
sounds like UR liking ur plants.



and yah it is nice when ppl on here stop by ALL members grow logs and give there oponions.

well good luck with the rest of ur seedlings/beens.

jakezking
07-24-2008, 04:11 PM
Alright, so MIQ was last seen just hangin' out showin' her undies as it were. This next set of pictures will show her with her 3 colas severed from each other, and in the various ensuing stages of trim - yes, I said "trim." I also have some closer shots of the 3 buds after some plantscaping has taken place.

Now for some really experimental, cutting-edge stuff. I was doing a bit of thinking, and I decided to try putting a bag of uncooked rice into a paper bag with the resultant, trimmed buds. Therefore, the buds are currently residing in a thick-gauge paper bag with a bag of "Success Rice" laying underneath the buds. As rice naturally absorbs moisture, I thought it might speed up the drying process without doing any injury to all of the glorious, resinous trichomes - we'll see. The buds have been in the paper bag with the rice for a good 1/2 a day, and I will leave them in there for a few more days - checking on them occasionally - prior to putting them into some mason jars - burping said jars 3 or more times per day - for final curing.

I plan on taking my time with the curing process, but may have to snip a few of the popcorn buds out for testing purposes along the way. I look forward to comments and questions about my chosen path of drying/curing.

Here are the pictures of the trimming stage. If anyone wants or needs any pictures of the "Bag of Rice" technique (not related to the "Quart of Blood" technique espoused by Eddie Murphy in Trading Places), just let me know, and I'll snap some.

jakezking
07-24-2008, 04:14 PM
sounds like UR liking ur plants.

and yah it is nice when ppl on here stop by ALL members grow logs and give there oponions.

well good luck with the rest of ur seedlings/beens.

hydro, thanks for your frequent visits, my friend! Your face is always welcome in my log, and I look forward to catching up on your logs! It's been awhile since I did a thorough browsing of the logs on this board. Work has been whippin' my ass, but after awhile it doesn't hurt so badly.

I hope all is well with you and yours, including all of your beautiful lady MJ friends! Be good out there!

jakezking
07-24-2008, 04:25 PM
Alright, so the other day I went outside to check on all of my lil' lady friends hangin' out on the pool deck, and what did I see? PPP having had her neck snapped, most probably by some high winds. Her stem was snapped just above her cotyledons and below her 1st node, leaving no hopes of recovery. I'll post a picture of her in this state. I left her with a blind hope that she would somehow make it, but the next day she was completely wilted - dead.

Also, my Bubblelicious and Red Colombian Haze beans had popped awhile back, but neither of them grew at all once I popped them into Jiffy pellets.

Therefore, I am 0 for 3 on the pedigreed beans. However, I am not down for the count, as I have 27 other beans remaining. I am about to throw 3 more into ye ole paper towels, and hopefully these 3 will have better luck.

Despite my bad luck with the pedigreed beans, my 3 bagbeans are thriving! I checked on them this morning, and they are looking great. I went ahead and FIM'ed them, and took some pictures after applying this technique.

Mourn with me on the broken PPP picture, but celebrate the growth of the bagbeans in gazing upon their pictures. Enjoy!

greenatik
07-24-2008, 08:24 PM
jake! before you waste anymore seeds go invest in some rapid rooters. they are cheap as hell and I always have a great success with germ rates :thumbsup:

greenatik
07-24-2008, 08:27 PM
and I think that you fim'd too early :( only time will tell though, i topped a seedling that size and it took 2-3 weeks to come back

jakezking
07-24-2008, 08:52 PM
jake! before you waste anymore seeds go invest in some rapid rooters. they are cheap as hell and I always have a great success with germ rates :thumbsup:

I didn't have any problem germinating them in the paper towels, as they popped taproots pretty quickly. The PPP's taproot sprung to life, so I went ahead and transplanted it into a Jiffy pellet, and she took off - maybe too fast since her stem snapped in some winds. The BBL and RCH sprouted taproots a little more slowly, and I was going out of town for a number of days, so I went ahead and put them in Jiffy pellets earlier than I would have liked, which I believe led to their eventual death - though I'm not sure of the exact cause.

But, I did some quick research on your rapid rooter suggestion, and those things look fantastic! I will definitely get some for future use. Thanks for the recommendation and heads up, my friend!



and I think that you fim'd too early :( only time will tell though, i topped a seedling that size and it took 2-3 weeks to come back

I'm sorry to hear this. I had thought I did a good job at it - HA! I should have done more reading on it as for timing. I hope it doesn't take them long to spring back. Thanks for this bit of experienced advice though, as I will keep an eye on them; and, as I learn most things in life, if indeed it does set them back, I won't soon forget my error.

Good to see you again, greenatik! I need to stop in to see Pilav and your outdoor beauties! In fact, I think I will do so now. Be good out there, my friend!

greenatik
07-25-2008, 12:13 AM
i would say that fim'ing or topping that early would not be as much of a problem indoors. but, being that the light cycles are changing and budding season is about to begin outdoors (:D), it could possibly stunt your babies, maybe even lower your F/M ratio...

but im not one to be the bad news bear, because only time will tell! all my god's gift runts that were poorly treated at a young age turned female, and vigorous.

the rooters are awesome IMO. comes w/ a tray for cheap, and everything from seeds to clones love rooting in those. just have to keep them moist, sometimes 2-3 times a day. i dont use the paper towel method, although it does indeed work. i just soak the seeds overnight and pop them in the rooters just barely under the top, and within 4 days they are ready for a transplant

oh and i will update my log in a little bit with some new pics.. i chopped 4-5 small buds off of pilav and they are drying for an early sample. about 5-6 days left for sure, but I am glad that I didnt pick early, she has really fattened up. the smell is insane, kind of like a really sweet/tangy/sticky eucalyptus smell. like THC mixed with pineapple juice.


good luck buddy!

lunarose
07-25-2008, 03:17 AM
Jake,

Sorry to read about your loses. I seem to be able to germinate using the paper towel method I don't know why but except for that random seedling its the only way I get them to start. I usually then use something like a rapid rooter or rock wool once the tap roots pop out. I tend to have too many failures if I go straight to soil after they germinate.

So how are the bag seed babies doing? And your PPP is strill thriving right?

Puffzter
07-25-2008, 03:27 AM
Puffzter, it's nice to see you in my log, bro! Growing outside seems to be a whole lot easier than inside. I'm still trying to figure out how/when/if I will set up an indoor grow. I'll probably be plaguing all of you indoor guys with tons of questions.

Good luck on your grow - I've got a lot of catching up to do on a bunch of logs, and yours is on the list. Take care, amigo!

Anytime m8.
In many ways it is probably easier I'd say. Plants are safer as long as you have space indoors I think. You have control over the enviroment and photo period, how much water and nutricion they get is very easy to control as well. Bugs, dogs, storm, hikers and hazards like that is nothing to worry about.
We worry about ventilation, temperature, humidity, electricity and poisonous grow tents instead. :P

Anyway, excellent work and some well earned buds in your jars. :stoned:

Puffzter

Markass
07-26-2008, 01:54 PM
I must ask one question...why only one?? Gotta have a couple more at least in case something were to happen to one of them...Is a bitter feeling to have only one and lose it because of some freak accident...

jakezking
07-26-2008, 07:46 PM
i would say that fim'ing or topping that early would not be as much of a problem indoors. but, being that the light cycles are changing and budding season is about to begin outdoors (:D), it could possibly stunt your babies, maybe even lower your F/M ratio...

but im not one to be the bad news bear, because only time will tell! all my god's gift runts that were poorly treated at a young age turned female, and vigorous.

the rooters are awesome IMO. comes w/ a tray for cheap, and everything from seeds to clones love rooting in those. just have to keep them moist, sometimes 2-3 times a day. i dont use the paper towel method, although it does indeed work. i just soak the seeds overnight and pop them in the rooters just barely under the top, and within 4 days they are ready for a transplant

oh and i will update my log in a little bit with some new pics.. i chopped 4-5 small buds off of pilav and they are drying for an early sample. about 5-6 days left for sure, but I am glad that I didnt pick early, she has really fattened up. the smell is insane, kind of like a really sweet/tangy/sticky eucalyptus smell. like THC mixed with pineapple juice.


good luck buddy!

I checked on the bagbeans a bit ago, and they appear to have grown a bit more. I will keep my eye on them, and keep my fingers crossed. As it may be awhile before I can afford an indoor setup, I need to get as much as possible from the outdoor growing season. I will definitely have to try those RRs - you have me sold. I almost ordered some yesterday, but got sidetracked. I am almost out of Jiffy pellets anyway.

I can't wait for a smoke report on Pilav, my friend! I know she is going to lock you deep into your couch! Be good out there!



Jake,

Sorry to read about your loses. I seem to be able to germinate using the paper towel method I don't know why but except for that random seedling its the only way I get them to start. I usually then use something like a rapid rooter or rock wool once the tap roots pop out. I tend to have too many failures if I go straight to soil after they germinate.

So how are the bag seed babies doing? And your PPP is strill thriving right?

You'll have to look back in the thread a bit to see some pictures of the bagbeans - they are doing really well. But, the PPP got snapped in 1/2, so she is gone.

I needed to let the taproots grow on the BBL and CRH a bit more before putting them in the Jiffy pellets, and I think I kept the Jiffy pellets a bit too wet; but, I was going/gone out of town, so I took a chance.

Glad to see all of your ladies doing so well, luna! Take good care out there!



Anytime m8.
In many ways it is probably easier I'd say. Plants are safer as long as you have space indoors I think. You have control over the enviroment and photo period, how much water and nutricion they get is very easy to control as well. Bugs, dogs, storm, hikers and hazards like that is nothing to worry about.
We worry about ventilation, temperature, humidity, electricity and poisonous grow tents instead. :P

Anyway, excellent work and some well earned buds in your jars. :stoned:

Puffzter

Indoor growing for me is a bit intimidating at this point. Having to control the temperature and humidity, while dealing with electricity trouble me a bit. We'll see if I am able to jump in and swim at some point later this year. I am sure I will be following your notes carefully, and am glad you are so generous to share with us all.

I am glad to see you have your tent situation under control, and hate you had the problem to begin with. I look forward to seeing all of your ladies grow to be large and in charge.



I must ask one question...why only one?? Gotta have a couple more at least in case something were to happen to one of them...Is a bitter feeling to have only one and lose it because of some freak accident...

That is a good question, Markass. I actually planted the 1 bean on a whim, as I ran across it in my dugout, being the only bean within a really sweet strain (Mighty Freeze) which a good friend so kindly bestowed upon me. It was blind luck finding the bean, and I had some good luck in growing it out to harvest.

Since my luck was so good with the 1 lucky bean, I have caught the growing bug, and have 3 new lil' ladies out by the pool. I also have some PPP, Bubblelicious, and Red Colombian Haze beans, of which I have 1 of each germinating now in an attempt to get 1 last grow in this season. It stays really warm where I am, so I think I can squeeze another grow in outside before moving in to try my hand at the indoor operation.

Thanks for stopping by, and feel free to drop by anytime. The door's always open.

Mr.GoodMorning02
07-27-2008, 05:00 PM
hey jake,

i can't even post here anymore. you reply to everyone so promptly without abbreviating details. must be tiring lol.

well as to the real reason i checked in on your log, i've been off the site for a week or so and i noticed i missed the new beginning to the MIQ, her harvest. but man! does she look fantastic or what?

I believe you said you were trying a new 'rice' method and to me it makes total sense. i hope it's working out. The drying colas looked to have some nice dense buds but i could be mistaken. And how did the sampling taste/smoke?

hope all is well my friend and those new ladies are coming along nicely, sorry to see the pp didn't make it.

gmorning

lunarose
07-31-2008, 01:23 AM
Jake,

Your bagseed crop is looking good do you have any new pictures? About how atll are they now?

I see you are thinking of growing inside you are braver then I am. I don't know inside grows seem so complicated. The LEDs are looking promising I'd like to see a few more grows before I'd consider buying them but I do believe they are the next big thing in growing.

Have you harvest your MQ yet? How'd she taste?

anbesol
07-31-2008, 02:25 PM
Hey Jake. I read in your log that you harvested your plant because you wanted some new bud. Your plant seemed like it could have used a few more weeks. But thats just me. I hope she tasted good! i cant wait to see the next grow flower!

jakezking
08-01-2008, 04:39 PM
hey jake,

i can't even post here anymore. you reply to everyone so promptly without abbreviating details. must be tiring lol.

well as to the real reason i checked in on your log, i've been off the site for a week or so and i noticed i missed the new beginning to the MIQ, her harvest. but man! does she look fantastic or what?

I believe you said you were trying a new 'rice' method and to me it makes total sense. i hope it's working out. The drying colas looked to have some nice dense buds but i could be mistaken. And how did the sampling taste/smoke?

hope all is well my friend and those new ladies are coming along nicely, sorry to see the pp didn't make it.

gmorning

Mr.GoodMorning02, it's good to see you again. I know what it's like not to have much time to pop onto the board. My time is becoming more and more constrained. MIQ is curing in some mason jars as I type, and she has been for about 10 days now.

The bag of rice really helped to dry her buds out more quickly - I believe - but, it really took away her smell. She really doesn't have a smell anymore, just a faint touch of rice! I shared some of her lower buds with my bro-in-law, and she didn't have much of a taste either. She was a bit green at that time, and she had a serious creeper effect. I was able to focus, but at times caught myself really staring off into space. I'll talk about her in more detail below.

All the new beans are doing well - I started 1 each of Bubblelicious, PPP, and Red Colombian Haze. I just put them outside, and they were springing up fast when I check on them this morning. The bagbeans are doing awesome too. I'll try to post pictures later today or over the weekend.

Thanks again for stopping in, my friend. I hope all's well with you and yours!



Jake,

Your bagseed crop is looking good do you have any new pictures? About how atll are they now?

I see you are thinking of growing inside you are braver then I am. I don't know inside grows seem so complicated. The LEDs are looking promising I'd like to see a few more grows before I'd consider buying them but I do believe they are the next big thing in growing.

Have you harvest your MQ yet? How'd she taste?

luna, it's nice seeing you again. Sorry I'm going to have to cut my replies a bit shorter, as I'm about to have to run out the door. I'll try to post pictures today or tomorrow, and will give a more thorough smoke report than I gave above. My last taste of MIQ was INCREDIBLE! I haven't been that high in awhile - I think mainly because I harvested her a bit early (if you can consider 8 1/2 weeks flowering early), but her trichs were mostly cloudy. It was a really ethereal high - very up high, and my mind was soaring. It seems like I solved a lot of the world's problems that night, but I can't remember now what the solutions were!



Hey Jake. I read in your log that you harvested your plant because you wanted some new bud. Your plant seemed like it could have used a few more weeks. But thats just me. I hope she tasted good! i cant wait to see the next grow flower!

anbesol, it's good to see you, my friend! I'll have to give you a more thorough smoke report later today or tomorrow. She was an incredible high! Sorry this reply is so short, but I've gotta run, or I'll be late. I hope all's well with you, and look forward to catching up with you later. Take care, amigo!

Dutch Pimp
08-01-2008, 05:02 PM
Don't fuck this grow...or any other grow...up ...jakezking...:D

It makes us Southern growers look bad..and you know what kind of baggage that carry's...:stoned:....:bigsmoke:

jakezking
08-01-2008, 07:24 PM
Don't fuck this grow...or any other grow...up ...jakezking...:D

It makes us Southern growers look bad..and you know what kind of baggage that carry's...:stoned:....:bigsmoke:

I don't often times use the modern internet abbreviations, but LMMFAO! Man, I can always use a good laugh these days, and that 1 hit the spot! I'll try to live up to your expectations, DP, but I can't make any promises. I am learning more and more with every bean that pops though, so keep your fingers crossed, my friend!

My current bagbeans and pedigreed beans are looking pretty sporty so far. I'll detail out their progress, and provide updates on the smoke and weight report from MIQ later today. I've got another appointment to catch right now. Hectic Fridays aren't the best, but at least they fly by into Friday nights, which are my best nights of the weekend for cutting loose a bit - I already can't wait to wrap my mind around that MIQ again!

DP, I appreciate you droppin' in, and thanks again for the good laugh! Drop on in anytime - you're always welcome, my friend!

danish
08-01-2008, 07:46 PM
Hi i had to drop in here and see how MIQ was doing and i must congrats on the harvest

About the indoor grow, keep it as simple and straight on as your outdoor grow and im sure you will get results like the outdoor grow.

So keep it going and lets see where you take im a strong believer in nature it self im looking out over nature as im replying here and i sooo want opportunity to grow outside but i dont have the space in urban living :(

I could put in all the superlatives i want but wouldnt make a difference since you and nature KNOWS what you did and thats only thing worth knowing so enjoy and keep it going the same way now i will head out and get my medicine before bedtime

Weezard
08-01-2008, 08:48 PM
Aloha, Homie.

Congrats onna chop
Ya got gold on da flop.

I picture you wit' a glazed grin dat jus' keep gettin' wider as ya mutter to yerself,
"WoW! I grew dat!

An da room gets all "sparkly" wit' photon fuzz.
An' yer brain illuminates all it's little corners.
An' t'ings occur to you.
Fancy unto fancy linking.
Den you look at him again wit marvel eyes,
WoW! I grew dat!
(All medicinal of course)

Goodonya my friend, nice job!

Wee

jakezking
08-01-2008, 10:47 PM
Hi i had to drop in here and see how MIQ was doing and i must congrats on the harvest

About the indoor grow, keep it as simple and straight on as your outdoor grow and im sure you will get results like the outdoor grow.

So keep it going and lets see where you take im a strong believer in nature it self im looking out over nature as im replying here and i sooo want opportunity to grow outside but i dont have the space in urban living :(

I could put in all the superlatives i want but wouldnt make a difference since you and nature KNOWS what you did and thats only thing worth knowing so enjoy and keep it going the same way now i will head out and get my medicine before bedtime

danish, thanks for stoppin' by, my friend! It's a pleasure to see you in my log. The grass is always greener on the other side, isn't it? I truly want to grow inside, and am envious of those who are able to. The only location I have is the attic, but it may work out after all. I really need to sit down and do some figuring to start getting it set up for the winter - probably only a few months that would not allow me to grow outside.

I can understand about the urban living. Luckily I've got some pretty good plants that provide cover to my medicinal plants, so they are not obvious and are never recognized for what they are - knock on wood (my head). I'm about set to get medicated as well, and I wish you a great night, my friend! Thanks again for stopping in! Be good out there!




Aloha, Homie.

Congrats onna chop
Ya got gold on da flop.

I picture you wit' a glazed grin dat jus' keep gettin' wider as ya mutter to yerself,
"WoW! I grew dat!

An da room gets all "sparkly" wit' photon fuzz.
An' yer brain illuminates all it's little corners.
An' t'ings occur to you.
Fancy unto fancy linking.
Den you look at him again wit marvel eyes,
WoW! I grew dat!
(All medicinal of course)

Goodonya my friend, nice job!

Wee


Weezard, it's nice to see you here! I've read many of your posts, mainly in WT's threads, and you have a way with words, my friend - a true poet! I'm glad your words have now graced my log! And, your words come from great wisdom and insight - the last time I smoked MIQ, it was almost an incredible experience. My mind opened up, and thoughts came flooding in. Always in my mind was - I cannot believe I helped a plant grow which has allowed my brain this freedom! I still cannot believe it - but, I try not to credit myself that much, as nature did her thing, I just didn't step on her toes that much!

Thanks again for stopping in, my friend, and I hope to see you more often!

Mahalo

jakezking
08-01-2008, 11:06 PM
I thought I would post some pictures of the curing MIQ, but my camera went dead - I hadn't plugged the power cord in as well as I thought. I'll take some later. My guess on her dry weight would be anywhere from 20 to 30 grams - not that much quantity, but the smoke more than makes up for her slight build.

I will provide a 3d and 4th opinion on the smoke report tonight. The first smoke report was rendered when MIQ was still very green. She tended to creep, leaving an abbreviated but pleasant high. She was extrememly smooth, but without much flavor.

As stated above, the rice pack really helped dry her up quickly, but she doesn't have much aroma now, except for a slight rice smell - very interesting. I would think this process would be good for those who want to eliminate smell for some reason.

The 2d report came 1 week ago, and I took a couple of bat hits off an upper bud, and my mind went soaring. It was a bit later, and I fell asleep a little over 1 hour later, but it was incredible up high - strong creativity and original thought production. We'll see what how the smoke tests tonight. And, again, I'll take some curing pictures later tonight or tomorrow.

Alright, on to the new grows. The bagbeans are on DAY 22 of veg, and the FIM looks to have treated them very well. They recovered nicely, and luckily were not slowed down. I'll post some pictures below that I just took before the camera went dead. They are a bit bogged down from heavy rains, but still look pretty good. To this point, they have not had much in the way of nutes, just their MG organic soil, some Green Light rooting hormone, and 1 dose of Superthrive with their transplant - I needed the buckets for the new pedigreed beans.

Ok, the pedigreed beans are on DAY 2 of veg, having just popped them into buckets yesterday with some rooting hormone in some MG organic soil, with about 1/3 to 1/2 perlite. I have 1 Bubblelicious, 1 PPP, and 1 Red Colombian Haze. I tried to get a single shot of the PPP, but the camera went dead before I could. There is not much to see at this point, but I always like to reference back to the early pictures.

I hope this update and these pictures find all readers and viewers well. I'm about to have a bit of company, so I need to go offline to be sociable. Y'all have a great weekend, and be good to each other!

Enough of my rambling, here are the pictures - a group shot of the bagbeans and pedigreed beans, and individual shots of the bags. For posterity's sake, the pedigreed beans are from left to right, PPP, Red Colombian Haze, and Bubblelicious.

danish
08-02-2008, 10:24 PM
Jaze ofcourse ill drop in here...

And im wondering why if with just a little planning would you not be able to get a nice stinky attic (not to confuse with our local online godess of hemp) but plan it a little and build it of stages and you will get something good im sure.

The plants are loooking sweet, though a bit hanging as you mentioned from the rain...

lunarose
08-04-2008, 01:37 AM
Jake,

It sounds like your Mighty Queen delivered her goods in fine form. Your new grow is off to a fine start. Are you going to have enough sun and heat where you are to get a good veg growth? Usually we don't get frost until Jan where I am but with the nights in the 40s and days low 60s plus the shorter days growing beyond Oct. doesn't really work.

Mr.GoodMorning02
08-04-2008, 10:05 PM
hey jake, i was wondering. since the buds from the MIQ didn't have much smell or taste after drying in the rice, have you thought about cooking the rice? maybe it contains some thc or something. idk i was thinking about that while smoking earlier and thought it'd be cool if it had any effect on the rice. anyway, good luck with those little girls. keep up the good work


gmorning

Weezard
08-05-2008, 10:41 PM
hey jake, i was wondering. since the buds from the MIQ didn't have much smell or taste after drying in the rice, have you thought about cooking the rice? maybe it contains some thc or something. idk i was thinking about that while smoking earlier and thought it'd be cool if it had any effect on the rice. anyway, good luck with those little girls. keep up the good work


gmorning

That don't sound half bad.:jointsmile:
That wunnerful scent hadda go somewhere.
If no THC, slather with Ghee.
Dang! now I hongry.
:eat:

l8tr

Weezard

jakezking
08-05-2008, 11:11 PM
Jaze ofcourse ill drop in here...

And im wondering why if with just a little planning would you not be able to get a nice stinky attic (not to confuse with our local online godess of hemp) but plan it a little and build it of stages and you will get something good im sure.

The plants are loooking sweet, though a bit hanging as you mentioned from the rain...


danish, as always it's a pleasure to see you, my friend! I hope to scrabble together a nice attic grow at some point - the sooner the better in my opinion, but I need to find a quiet weekend to really plan one out; then, of course I will have to determine the cost and figure out how to convince my banker (my wife) to give me a loan. I can be pretty persuasive, as can MIQ, so maybe this Fall I will start putting something together. We'll see how it goes.

The ladies on the pool deck are looking much better now they have dried out a bit. They were so droopy at one point their leaves were touching their soil. I have not seen anything look more pathetic lately - a terrible sight to behold. Now they have lifted their heads back up towards the sun and are shaking loose from their deluge. I need to protect them better next go 'round.

Thanks for stopping in, my friend! Good luck on your fine ladies!



Jake,

It sounds like your Mighty Queen delivered her goods in fine form. Your new grow is off to a fine start. Are you going to have enough sun and heat where you are to get a good veg growth? Usually we don't get frost until Jan where I am but with the nights in the 40s and days low 60s plus the shorter days growing beyond Oct. doesn't really work.


luna, I always welcome your smiling face in my log. I trust your mom is still doing well, and that all else is well with you and yours. I will post a few pictures of the curing MIQ below. I finally figured out I had a macro feature to my camera, so I have some better photos - I think.

As for the late start to the outdoor grows - you have asked a good question as to whether they will have enough time to finish. I have seen many folks say it is too late, but I thought I would give it a go anyway. I am always 1 to learn the hard way. It normally doesn't get very cold around these parts until around late December or January, much like your location, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But, I also hope to have an indoor setup by that time, so if I don't have enough light outdoors, then I will bring them in to test my luck in the attic. Keep your fingers crossed for me! Thanks for stopping in!




hey jake, i was wondering. since the buds from the MIQ didn't have much smell or taste after drying in the rice, have you thought about cooking the rice? maybe it contains some thc or something. idk i was thinking about that while smoking earlier and thought it'd be cool if it had any effect on the rice. anyway, good luck with those little girls. keep up the good work


gmorning

Mr.GM, dude, you have set forth an intriguing question that I have yet to consider. I think the rice only absorbed the moisture, but in doing so it absorbed the scent, so there is a possibility the rice may have a bit of resin in it - it certainly smells a bit better than normal rice. However, after tasting MIQ's buds, I don't think she lost much potency to the rice. I saved the rice though, and I will have to boil it up to see where it takes me!

Thanks for getting me noggin' stirred up a bit. I need to stir it up a bit every now and then, as work tends to tie it in knots these days. Be good out there, my friend, and thanks for droppin' in!




That don't sound half bad.:jointsmile:
That wunnerful scent hadda go somewhere.
If no THC, slather with Ghee.
Dang! now I hongry.
:eat:

l8tr

Weezard

Weezard, it's nice to see you again, my friend! There isn't much like rice with butter, is there? Rice with butter and gravy... hmmmm. Dude, I've got to get some dinner now, and I have not even had a single puff. Hunger sure is contagious on this board!

Be good out there, bro! Mahalo

jakezking
08-05-2008, 11:23 PM
I didn't realize it has been 2 weeks since MIQ's buds began curing, and they look better than ever. There cannot be enough stress placed upon a good cure to wrap up a good grow - essentially the grow is not over until a good curing has been had. With that in mind, I though I would share some curing photos of MIQ's buds.

I finally found a macro feature on my camera, so the up close shots should show the trichs and hairs in a bit more detail. The mason jars are the medium sized jars, I think. I put a disposable razor in 1 of the pics to give some perspective on the curing buds. I don't have any scales, but my guess would be MIQ's curing buds are around 25 grams.

Even though MIQ shriveled up quite a bit, I only hit her in a bat, so she will last me quite awhile. At this stage, she tends to clog the bat pretty easily, as she is pretty darn resinous. Her smoke is smooth as silk, expanding a bit in the lungs, but not enough to throw a coughing fit your way. I normally can't clean a whole bat, as she is pretty potent, and she is a really strong up high. I, and a couple of others who have tried her, are pretty satisfied. As Weezard said above, it's really hard to believe I had a hand in bringing her about.

Without further ado, I present to you DAY 14 of MIQ's curing. I hope you enjoy the picture show.

killa12345
08-06-2008, 12:21 AM
hey nice results....a free oz of dank.....miq was such a beauty!....Looking forward to the new grow!

zebulon
08-06-2008, 10:04 AM
Good work Jake...enjoy those buds...:jointsmile:

lunarose
08-11-2008, 04:42 AM
Jake, Wow your queen definitely delivered! Those pictures are making my mouth water! So did you try out your rice experiment any thc absorbed in the drying?
I am thinking of putting a light in the GH for the seedling. My thinking is that I'll only really need to augement the sun instead of trying to replace it like you do with an inside grow so I really won't need anything special in there and only have it come on whatever amount of time I need to lengthen daylight to get 14 hour days. If it works then maybe my little ole greenhouse can be happy yearround.

kreator34
08-29-2008, 05:02 AM
great pictures jake i bet that was tasty

Earthy Dank
08-29-2008, 04:26 PM
Damn that looks nice... You can see the glittery trichs shining through the leaves. You should manicure those leaves off. They will dilute the taste and the high. Looks good man.. how long do you plan to cure?

habanerojefe
09-09-2008, 12:04 PM
High.

I'm new to this thread and have a few questions regarding planting. I just harvested my female who produced seeds. Do I need to do anything to the seeds before I start to germinate a new crop? I mean, I'm allowing them to dry out naturally, but should I freeze them or anything else? And my other question is; Does it matter what time of year I plant if I'm doing it indoors?

Hab

Earthy Dank
09-09-2008, 02:55 PM
High.

I'm new to this thread and have a few questions regarding planting. I just harvested my female who produced seeds. Do I need to do anything to the seeds before I start to germinate a new crop? I mean, I'm allowing them to dry out naturally, but should I freeze them or anything else? And my other question is; Does it matter what time of year I plant if I'm doing it indoors?

Hab

You need to let them dry out before you can germinate them. I say at least a month or two.

ezra21
09-12-2008, 03:41 PM
Hey you turkey!
thanks for all the great work and for being there for me.
You don't know how much i appreciate the grand JKW ...
a friend that's been a friend for a long time now.
I appreciate you buddy and I'm glad to see this amazing log.
I got some reading to catch up on and I can't wait to hear how the new
grows go!

cheers mi amigo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jakezking
09-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Thanks to all for continuing to visit this log. The Mighty Freeze is a really sweet lady. She was an amazing grow from the point I ran across the single bean in my dugout. Thanks to my great friend ezra21 for her!



Hey you turkey!
thanks for all the great work and for being there for me.
You don't know how much i appreciate the grand JKW ...
a friend that's been a friend for a long time now.
I appreciate you buddy and I'm glad to see this amazing log.
I got some reading to catch up on and I can't wait to hear how the new
grows go!

cheers mi amigo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOT DANG! The man himself has finally arrived, eh? Dang good to see you on the board, ezra my old friend! Yeah, this log is a tribute to you, having forgotten your "ezra" handle. You'll see mention of where I received the fine bean that led to the Mighty Freeze grow. I still have the main cola sealed tightly in a mason jar - going to have to give her a go tonight for certain, what with the week I've had at work! Woowee!

I'm looking forward to your comments, and for us to talk more specifics about the grows. Now that I have a small amount of experience, at least I can half-way keep up with what you are talking about.

I'm super happy for you and yours and all of your recent events. I know times will be good for you from here on out, my friend! You deserve nothing but the best in life, as you give nothing but the best in life.

I hope to see you more around these parts more often - you'll have to check out the new log for all of my recent activity, as I'm going to try to get better at updating it.

space toker
02-10-2009, 01:15 AM
does mighty freeze come from Unleash Da Green or some other source?