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Psycho4Bud
05-07-2008, 05:18 PM
President Bush??s former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton is calling on the U.S. to bomb the camps in Iran where insurgents are training to fight in Iraq.

??This is a case where the use of military force against a training camp to show the Iranians we??re not going to tolerate this is really the most prudent thing to do,? Bolton said in remarks reported by The Telegraph in Britain.

??Then the ball would be in Iran??s court to draw the appropriate lesson to stop harming our troops.?

Bolton acknowledged that a strike could spark an Iranian response harming American interests overseas, but insisted that the damage inflicted by Iran would be ??far higher? if the U.S. did not act.

An American military spokesman disclosed last week that the Quds Force of Iran??s Revolutionary Guards was using personnel from Lebanon??s Hezbollah to train fighters from Iraq??s Shiite militias.

Col. Donald Bacon said fighters captured in Iraq told interrogators that thousands of Iraqis were training in Iran.

The main training camp is located near the town of Jalil Azad, The Telegraph reported.

Last week the Iraqi government sent a five-member delegation to Tehran to meet with the Quds Force commander to plead for an end to Iranian involvement in Iraq.
Newsmax.com - John Bolton: Bomb Insurgent Training Camps in Iran (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/John_Bolton_Bomb_Iran/2008/05/06/93811.html)

Iran's been fighting a secret war with us from the start. It's about time somebody brings this issue to light.

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
05-08-2008, 01:29 AM
Bolton is as ignorant as he is stupid.So its ok for America to support Islam freedom fighters during the Russian Afghanistan war therefore killing Russian soldiars.But its not ok when the shoe is on the other foot??Give me a break Bolton can go cry in his beer somewhere else.BOO hhooo ive got some cheese for his wine

epxroot
05-08-2008, 03:59 AM
Their country is being occupied man! There are going to be people who are going to help, just like people would help the US. This should get interesting considering we are nice and close to an election. Maybe this attack could look good for John and the Republican party. Besides, why not fight another war we are already broke from this war. :thumbsup: I didn't see anywhere in that article about the interrogation methods used...did you?

Markass
05-08-2008, 04:14 AM
God no....This is the LAST thing our armed forces need to do at this point in time..They wouldn't be arming insurgents if we didn't give them a reason to. I think if those people were taking over canada I'd be trying to kill them as well, so that I could keep them out of my country.

Psycho4Bud
05-08-2008, 04:28 PM
Their country is being occupied man! There are going to be people who are going to help

Do you really think that Iran is out to "help" Iraq? :wtf:

Have a good one!:s4:

epxroot
05-08-2008, 05:06 PM
Do you really think that Iran is out to "help" Iraq? :wtf:

Have a good one!:s4:

I doubt the only reason is out of pity and sorrow. Do you really think we need to make a move this serious over it?

Psycho4Bud
05-08-2008, 05:47 PM
I doubt the only reason is out of pity and sorrow. Do you really think we need to make a move this serious over it?

We're there to help the Iraqi government until their strong enough to do on their own. We accepted this responsibility when we invaded whether we like it or not. There have been meetings, diplomacy, etc...on this issue between all the parties involved but yet Iran allows this to happen within' its borders.

It's not just U.S. troops that suffer because of Irans actions, or lack of, but the Iraqi military AND civilians. This region of the world has a thing about weakness....by allowing this to go on makes us look weak in their eyes. At this point, I really see no other option.

Have a good one!:s4:

epxroot
05-08-2008, 06:05 PM
We're there to help the Iraqi government until their strong enough to do on their own. We accepted this responsibility when we invaded whether we like it or not. There have been meetings, diplomacy, etc...on this issue between all the parties involved but yet Iran allows this to happen within' its borders.

It's not just U.S. troops that suffer because of Irans actions, or lack of, but the Iraqi military AND civilians. This region of the world has a thing about weakness....by allowing this to go on makes us look weak in their eyes. At this point, I really see no other option.

Have a good one!:s4:

This isn't a time for our masculinity to start taking over. We need to make intelligent decisions, and this wouldn't be an intelligent decision. There are those who want us over there, but there are also those who want us over there for selfish reasons. Now those who can only see black and white see this as something that has to be done. They start taking an approach of this is the only thing left to do. Those of us who know there is a gray side know this doesn't have to be done.

killerweed420
05-08-2008, 06:32 PM
Yeah that would really be smart. Do an act of war on another nation without any provocation. I'm pretty sure thats what got us into the Iraq mess.

Psycho4Bud
05-08-2008, 11:01 PM
They start taking an approach of this is the only thing left to do. Those of us who know there is a gray side know this doesn't have to be done.

Negotiations didn't work.....what's left?


Yeah that would really be smart. Do an act of war on another nation without any provocation.

Killing U.S. Military Personnel and Iraqis isn't provocation?

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
05-09-2008, 01:38 AM
Give me a break go wine somewhere else,you guys invaded a sovereign nation and now your belly aching about Iran.Go complain to the U.N about and go send that Bolton guy to do it.Wait a minute the U.N knows your country is full of shit and frankly you get what you deserve.The chicken hawkes in your country sure know how to belly ache dont they, wa wa wa idiots

Psycho4Bud
05-09-2008, 02:47 AM
So how do ya feel about Iranian goods killing Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan?

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
05-09-2008, 03:06 AM
We are more worried about taliban and the pakistan connection,we havent really heard about Irans influence and or bombs killing canadian soldiars.I guess it could happen but having training grounds and zones of influence in pakistan being more of a problem to us than iran.But every country in that bloody area has its own agenda and interests and you cant turn your back on any of them because thats when they stick the knife in your back.That being said if you want to attack iran then you have to attack pakistan also because they are just as much as a hinderance than iran and what about russia they supply weapons to iran and what else are they doing that nobody knows about.Also your good friends Saudia Arabia theve been supplying weapons and money to the Sunni militants in Iraq since this war began.

Psycho4Bud
05-09-2008, 03:19 AM
Here's a google search you may want to check out:
Iran Afghanistan - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Iran+Afghanistan)

Yeah, it's a fucked up region but that IS the place where the assclowns are coming out of. Iraq made for a nice central location for them to come out of the woodwork. Leaving these radicals alone would only give them time to get stronger in the region. Seems there are alot more moderates these days.

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
05-09-2008, 03:40 AM
Well it doesnt surprise me one bit and this Afghanistan war will be a long hard struggle.Like the Taliban say"westerners own all the wrist watches but we have all the time in the world".Thats why you cant beat these guys with the amount of troops we have there.We have to clear out that whole country with a few hundred thousand troops stay there for 20 30 years till that country gets strong enough millitarily and economicly so that when we do leave and the taliban try to take over that country the people will just say fuck you look how good we have it here now.

Psycho4Bud
05-09-2008, 10:24 AM
till that country gets strong enough millitarily and economicly so that when we do leave and the taliban try to take over that country the people will just say fuck you look how good we have it here now.

Once again, that's the same way I feel about Iraq. Your statement, "look how good we have it here now" is exactly why Iran and Syria don't really want a free Iraq to exist.

Imagine the wealth that would be in that country with the oil distribution. Especially in Iran, the people will be wondering "why not us?".

Have a good one!:s4:

epxroot
05-09-2008, 11:56 AM
Negotiations didn't work.....what's left?

What negotiations are you referring to?

Psycho4Bud
05-09-2008, 12:23 PM
LOL...well good mornin' to ya! This ones for you.:smokebong:

The U.S., Iraq, and Iran have engaged in talks in the past and as of late Iran refuses to join in talks. Irans President was also recently in Iraq...first visit of an Iranian leader since the Iran/Iraq war. Just do a google search.....this has been ongoing since "05" if I recall correctly.

Also, where does Al-Sadr always run to when his "army" decides to go into battle?

Have a good one!:s4:

epxroot
05-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Mornin to ya as well! I knew about his visit to Iraq, but I don't remember any negotiations about this subject. I'll check it out.

Psycho4Bud
05-09-2008, 12:36 PM
BAGHDAD, Feb. 14 -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will travel to Iraq next month in the first such visit by a leader of the Islamic Republic, Iraqi officials said Thursday, adding that Iran had postponed a fourth round of talks with the United States to discuss Iraq's security.

Invited by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, Ahmadinejad is scheduled to arrive March 2 for a visit of two to three days to discuss bilateral relations, the officials said. He will also meet with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

The two neighbors fought an intense eight-year conflict in the 1980s during the rule of Saddam Hussein. But the ascent of a Shiite-dominated government in Iraq after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion ushered in a new era of friendship with overwhelmingly Shiite Iran.

The United States and Iran set aside their own animosities and held three rounds of talks to discuss ways to improve Iraq's security. But on Thursday, Iran postponed the next session for the fourth time, Iranian and Iraqi officials said.
In a First, Ahmadinejad To Visit Iraq Next Month - washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021403480.html)

Here ya go........

Have a good one!:s4: