HOW MANY PLANTS YOU THINK WILL FIT

[biggzhse]

WHATS UP? I HAVE A HYDRO HUT MINI WITCH IS 3.5 FT X 3.5 7FT TALL USING 3X3 FLOOD AND DRAIN 400 WATT HPS HOW MANY PLANTS COULD I FLOWER IN THERE?

[biggzhse]

HERES THE HUT

[jash420]

I'm just gonna guess but I'm currently flowering in dirt four plants and feel I could prb possibly do up to 6 , I have a little more space and would keep the size down as much as possibly.. but just my two cents..

[hudson88]

It depends on how long you're gonna let them veg and how big you want each plant to be at harvest. You could do a short veg for SOG and prob get around 25 plants in there or you could veg somewhere in the 5-8 week range and have around 9 in ur tent.

Good luck!

[stinkyattic]

I'd be flowering 36 newly rooted clones pruned to a single lead in there in 6" pots of hydroton. But that's just me.
Growing from seed, I'd start 10, cull the runtiest one in the late seedling stage, grow on 9 to sexual maturity, flip to 12/12, remove males, grow on 4 to finish. If there are more than 4 females, save one for a mother. Take cuts anyway so you will save time on the next round.

[hudson88]

Hey stinky i'd be interested to hear more about your reasons for doing the 36 clones in that space. Would it be purely based on sog giving you the biggest yield? I've got a smaller tent 2ft x 2ft, so i'm tryna work out what will be the best for my next grow. So many options, grow 2 big plants and scrog, 4 plants and lst or 16 in a sog? Would there be circumstances when you would prefer lst or scrog over sog?

[Orzy]

You'd do a scrog over sog if you didn't want large numbers of plants and don't mind a longer veg time.

[stinkyattic]

Just what Orzy said. My plant count is already a little out of control, so all I care about is saving time by eliminating the veg stage entirely- they do their vegging under the clone dome, haha.
Literally; I pot up my clones at about 11 days into 2.5" pots and stick them back under the dome for another week and a half so that I am confident that the root system rox0rs before they go under the HPS. If thye are going into hydro, I just leave them under the dome for 3 weeks total, keeping the plugs slightly moist and giving light foliar feeds with GH Micro after about the 2nd week.

[hudson88]

Hey stinky, so if i'm understanding you right your trying to utilize as much of the available space you've got for flowering. with sog you can keep your veg room small and probably benefit from it being low maintanence when you've got a large grow room with lots of plants? But would the same be the right option for someone who only has a small to moderate sized flowering room and plenty of space and time to veg longer in a perpetual harvest scenario? I guess what i'm asking is, is the only benefit of scrog and lst over sog that the technique uses fewer plants? I would of thought given the extra veg time, size and maturity of the plant and good training to form a good canopy scrog would be more efficient?

[stinkyattic]

Okay, think about it in terms of the % of total dry PLANT WEIGHT at harvest that is smokeable. Your electricity, water, CO2, and fertilizer go to putting on bulk. How much of that bulk is just lumber? In SCROG or a long-vegged style, you get a lot of timber. In SOG, it is a higher percent bud mass overall.

Your yield numbers are directly related to nothing more than the watts of light in your flower room and the time your plants spend in there. You don't get 'paid' for plants sitting in veg.

A SOG is like cheating- you get all the exposed canopy area under the lights, without all that wood holding it up. Wood is wasteful of your time and fertilizer. Even fruit farms are going to a style that utilizes closely-spaced dwarf fruit trees that only need about a year or two before they begin to bear fruit, and far less maintenance than their standard-sized counterparts!

If you have enough space to keep a mother and a propagation dome, by all means, do so. The only benefit to long veg (by long I mean more than 2 weeks) is a reduction in the number of plants to give xxx grams at harvest.

[hudson88]

Hey stinky thanks for explaining that, I think i'm following what you're saying lol I bow to your knowledge and experience. Maybe i'll give sog a try for my next grow, it's definately something i'd like to do when i've got a good mum and a strain i'm gonna be happy with for a while.