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tank18
04-19-2008, 05:53 PM
is any body having the same problem i am i cannot seem to get as high from a vaporizer as i do with a regular pipe or spliff any reasons why that might be?thanks:thumbsup:

partcleguy
04-19-2008, 06:43 PM
Hey, I've met people who say the same thing. Some of them just assume that vaporizers won't get you as high because you're not burning all the weed and I just attribute that to their bias. If they don't think it will work, they'll probably deny the fact that they're as high or higher than normal.

I assume you don't feel that way since you're willing to try at least. How much do you smoke/how often? One possibility is you just have a high tolerance. Even more likely though is the setting/your mood. Some days I'm higher than others just because I'm in a relaxed or happy mood.

I say give it a few more tries maybe even in different places. Good luck! :thumbsup: Vaporizers are great!

EpsilonX
04-19-2008, 06:58 PM
the settings could be wrong on the vape, or it couls have not been fully heated up.

vapefiend
04-19-2008, 11:56 PM
The vapor high is different, and it's common to think you're not getting as high. And depending on your definition of 'high', maybe you're not. You don't get less THC with vapor. If anything, you get more. You do miss a couple of high temp cannabinoids, but they're not psychoactive. What you do miss with vapor, unless your temp is way high, are some toxic compounds. Carbon monoxide and benzene both contribute to the drowsy, laid out effect attributed to the mj high. And another, Toluene, is a solvent that can dissolve paint, rubber, and some types of glues. Inhaling Toluene can be intoxicating in small doses.

So what you get with vapor is a cleaner high. If you can tolerate smoke (I can't, on a regular basis), and really miss the extra 'goodies' you get with combustion, you may want to switch or supplement your vapor with smoke at times, depending on what effect you're looking for.

THClord
04-20-2008, 12:21 AM
IMO vape gives you more of a mind high while smoke will give you a body high.

katyowns
04-20-2008, 12:55 AM
this post is begging for some macros:rastasmoke:

This is all in good fun btw, no harm meant. I love my vapor brothers and this post made me decide to go click it on.
:hippy:

tank18
04-20-2008, 06:27 PM
thanks guys but i think most of the problem is my vape is a peice of shit,i bought the little ubie handheld vape and i cant seem to get it to work worth a shit,i guess im just so used to hittin the lighter straight on the weed and gettin the smoke,instead of vapor.allright so thanks guys for your input.smoke on.:jointsmile:

vapefiend
04-20-2008, 07:07 PM
Yeah you get what you pay for. Those little crack pipe type vapes are the hardest to use. They probably turn more people away from vaporizers than all the electric models that aren't up to par. It's like rubbing two sticks together to start a fire. It can be done, but if you don't do it just the right way you'll never get a flame. :(

morethanmagic
04-21-2008, 01:26 AM
currently visiting pals on the west coast.. they echo the theme of this thread.. hard to convince them otherwise...

on the plus side I got to test out their Vapir One.. interesting machine.. I like the digital readout.. obvious similarities to theOxygen.. not sure i like or need the blower thingy.. but it is an effective machine. Definitely does the trick. My hosts however remain somewhat skeptical..

must say that road tripping with the Oxygen is a great way to go.

A miniscule amount got me almost a thousand miles.

mtm

Igotsoul4u
04-21-2008, 07:15 AM
Here is my theory. Vaporizing is not so harsh and leaves your throat feeling fairly unaffected. Smoking tears your throat apart and creates cracks and sores that offer direct contact to your blood stream. Burning gets the THC into your system faster and easier resulting in a more intense body high. Whatever can't get absorbed makes it to the lungs like usual but I would think there would be some delay. I think that vaporizing forces all the THC to go into your lungs which distributes the effects differently then direct contact with the blood stream. Haa. Or not

Igotsoul4u
04-21-2008, 07:17 AM
thanks guys but i think most of the problem is my vape is a peice of shit,i bought the little ubie handheld vape and i cant seem to get it to work worth a shit,i guess im just so used to hittin the lighter straight on the weed and gettin the smoke,instead of vapor.allright so thanks guys for your input.smoke on.:jointsmile:


should have read this first. those things suck. thats why you aren't getting as high.

tank18
04-22-2008, 05:45 PM
yeah i definately agree with you guys,you get what you pay for and i payed for a peice of shit wich sucks cause i dont have 2 or 3 hundred dollars to go buy a good one,so i guess im stuck with the good old pipe and joints,for know anyway.peace out guys and smoke on.

vapefiend
04-23-2008, 04:20 PM
yeah i definately agree with you guys,you get what you pay for and i payed for a peice of shit wich sucks cause i dont have 2 or 3 hundred dollars to go buy a good one,so i guess im stuck with the good old pipe and joints,for know anyway.peace out guys and smoke on.Doesn't take 2 bills for a good one Tank. You can get a Vaporwarez Vaporcannon from several different dealers on ebay for $120 with free shipping and some extras. And yes, you get the 5 yr. warranty too. :thumbsup:

tank18
04-24-2008, 12:21 AM
ok maybe i was bein a little scarcastic,yeah ill definately have to do some checkin around,thanks again

pit6ull420
04-24-2008, 12:23 AM
i dont like the vapes with the bags because it has to
much air in it and dilutes the thc with air
, the vapezilla is better , its more concentrated
vapor , closer to smoking :rastasmoke:

vapefiend
04-24-2008, 01:44 PM
i dont like the vapes with the bags because it has to
much air in it and dilutes the thc with air
, the vapezilla is better , its more concentrated
vapor , closer to smoking :rastasmoke:Something like the SSV (really potent hits IMO) is even better than the Vapezilla for concentrated vapor, since the zilla also constantly pushes air through the unit with the fans.

pit6ull420
04-25-2008, 03:30 PM
Something like the SSV (really potent hits IMO) is even better than the Vapezilla for concentrated vapor, since the zilla also constantly pushes air through the unit with the fans.

both of those are top notch:jointsmile:

walkerweed
09-15-2008, 01:09 AM
yo to make surre that your not getting high from your vape...make a home made one with a light bulb just to test to see if it reallly dosnt get you stoned...cuz when i do that shit i blast off in to high land bro....if you want to no how to make it..message me

5016169
09-24-2008, 02:07 AM
I get just as fucked with the volcano or my pipe.

painretreat
09-24-2008, 04:07 AM
I sort of think, for me, the purpose is comfort and pain control: Vapes do it! Some have really long tubes on them, I'd think a shorter tube or suck harder! You'll either be light headed or whatever it is you want! IN all seriousness, if it helps what you are using it for, that is the best thing! I get high from just lower levels of pain! I can do so much more and am so much happier! Just a thot! Take care and good luck!:hippy:

phatsesh101
09-24-2008, 07:07 AM
idid research for a paper and read many medical journals offerd through the college and delta9 is only one of over 60 cannabinoids in cannabis and there are terpenes and lerpenes that also effect you. the only one weve studieed is delta 9 but everything in cannabis works together for different ailments from my studies if u use a vape ur only really getting high cause thats only 1 inert of the cannabis flower and labratory studie has shown and it shows that Cannabinoids fight cancer not just delta9 get the pic it might be more harmful to vape than to smoke because for every problem mj is suppoed to make it has something else to couteract that effect. not only should it cause lung cancer but also liver scirossis and yet it targets and kills cancer cells and helps to rebuild liver cells but its not the cannabiniods that do the latter so if vaping doesnt work for u ur body might be telling u something


btw i use and enjoy cannabis consuption in all ways

O. G. ganja smoker
10-01-2008, 11:07 PM
I get more fucked up from vapes. It dosent make you choke so you can smoke as much as you want. Never tried anything but a volcano with a bag but i seen on the net that you can get a vapor dome for it. Doing somthing wrong is my guess

vapefiend
10-02-2008, 02:02 PM
the only one weve studieed is delta 9 but everything in cannabis works together for different ailments from my studies if u use a vape ur only really getting high cause thats only 1 inert of the cannabis flower and labratory studie has shown and it shows that Cannabinoids fight cancer not just delta9 get the pic it might be more harmful to vape than to smoke because for every problem mj is suppoed to make it has something else to couteract that effect. I strongly disagree. The boiling points for all cannabinoids have been documented. The vast majority (and pretty much all the desirable ones) of them release in the normal vaping range, while toxins like carbon monoxide, hydrogen cyanide, toluene, naphthalene, benzene, etc. are at low levels or entirely absent. The effects of some of these toxins (drowsiness, dizziness) are associated with the cannabis 'smoking high' and are what most people miss with vapor, resulting in the perception that vapor doesn't get you as high. Giving up the 'couchlock' effect of smoke in return for increased lung function and eliminating my 'smoker's hacking' was a no-brainer for me.

"Nine out of 10 doctors who recommend medicinal cannabis advise their patients that vaporization is a safer delivery method than smoking.
When cannabis leaves and flowers burn, they release toxins -napthalene, benzene, toluene, polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons, and other substances that insult the lining of the throat and lungs.
But vapors released at temperatures below the burning point contain cannabinoids -the medically effective components of the plant- minus most of the toxins. Some flavorful molecules evaporate, too, at a point below combustion."
CCRMG (http://ccrmg.org/journal/04spr/volcano.html)

"Patients receiving physician approval to use cannabis should be warned that chemicals released when the dried leaves and/or flowers are burned put heavy smokers at increased risk for bronchitis and respiratory infections."
CCRMG (http://ccrmg.org/journal/03sum/vaporize.html)


Decreased respiratory symptoms in cannabis users who vaporize. (http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/4/4/1195.htm)


Science: Use of vaporizers reduces toxins from cannabis smoke
"A new study has found that a vaporizer drastically reduces harmful gases in cannabis smoke, delivering a nearly pure stream of cannabinoids with very few by-products of combustion. Smoke of combusted cannabis usually contains similar toxins as tobacco smoke and smoke of other herbal material, which may damage tissues, resulting in chronic bronchitis and cancer."
IACM-Bulletin (http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/ww_en_db_cannabis_artikel.php?id=146#2)