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Legalise420
04-18-2008, 02:13 AM
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Today, a bill to eliminate all federal penalties for marijuana
possession was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Would you please take one minute to ask your representative to support this bill?
MPP??s easy online action system makes it simple ?? just enter your name and contact
info and they'll do the rest.

"The Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008," introduced by
Congressman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), would eliminate the threat of arrest and prison
for the possession of up to 3.5 ounces of marijuana and/or the not-for-profit transfer
of up to one ounce of marijuana. It would not affect federal laws prohibiting selling
marijuana for profit, importing and exporting marijuana, or cultivating marijuana. It
also would not affect any state or local laws and regulations.

Because almost all marijuana arrests are made by local and state police, the primary
impact of this federal bill is twofold: First, it would offer protection to people who are
apprehended with marijuana in federal buildings or on federal land (such as national
parks); and, second, the bill sends a message to state governments that the federal
government is now open to the notion of states reducing their marijuana penalties,
too.

This historic legislation comes 36 years after the National Commission on Marihuana
and Drug Abuse made a similar recommendation to President Richard Nixon,
suggesting that he decriminalize small amounts of marijuana.

MPP has worked closely with Congressman Frank??s staff over the last year, helping to
craft the legislation and build political support for the proposal on Capitol Hill.

Now that the bill has been introduced, members of Congress need to hear from their
constituents who want to see it passed. It takes only a minute or two to use MPP??s
online action system to send a quick note to your member of the House.


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Now, take just one moment to
and send a message to your representative
supporting this new legislation.



If you can spare an additional two minutes, make a phone call!




You can reach your member of Congress by dialing the U.S. House switchboard
operator at (202) 225-3121 and asking the operator to connect you to your
representative (click here to lookup your representative). A staff member or
intern will take your message and relay it to your representative. You can say:
My name is [your name] and I am calling from [your town, your state].
I wanted to ask my representative to please support Barney Frank's
Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act.



If you believe non-violent marijuana users should stay out of jail...
If you believe the federal government should set precident on this issue...
If you want to do what you can to help make this a reality...

Take action!

killerweed420
06-17-2008, 08:59 PM
I'm contacting my legislators now. Thanks for the heads up.:thumbsup:

painretreat
06-18-2008, 02:26 AM
GREAT! I think it was on the ballot in 1972! I sure hope it happens again! Am phoning my congressman, ASAP!:thumbsup:

anbesol
06-18-2008, 02:31 AM
Im nervous about sending my name and email out since i grow. if i didnt i would put my name up. im SCARED! lol

veggii
06-20-2008, 05:20 PM
Im nervous about sending my name and email out since i grow. if i didnt i would put my name up. im SCARED! lol
this is why cannabis is still illegal,most everyone in the US is
too scard to stand up and say "I want legal cannabis!".
we have to tell our congress or it will stay illegal.


:hippy: :hippy: :hippy:

killerweed420
06-20-2008, 08:24 PM
Im nervous about sending my name and email out since i grow. if i didnt i would put my name up. im SCARED! lol

Man up!!!! lol

Majiktouch
06-21-2008, 07:18 PM
Marijuanna was made illegal behind our backs within an underhanded gov't with a corrupt agenda! I will stand for legalization and....
I ain't scared! This is fucking America and our voices and votes still do count!

Into the Light!:hippy:

HerbalConfusion
06-21-2008, 08:02 PM
I agree just man up your not gonna get caught for growing cause you emailed your senator about wanting him to support a bill. I grow i send emails with my name.

Shovelhandle
06-21-2008, 11:35 PM
I've sent my rep messages twice on these bills already. I also contact my state people when local bills are in the house or senate. They don't have a clue. They need to hear from us.

Shovelhandle

Sir Bliss
06-23-2008, 07:43 PM
Sent.

I'm going to inform as many people as I can about this.

Thanks.

More people need to send this! Especially on this site! Seriously. If you really have a passion for cannabis, stand up for what's right.

illnillinois
06-28-2008, 09:15 PM
I made the call, give your zipcode and your transfered..

I left a message and I plan to recall on monday and try to speak to my State Rep...

Great thread...

STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SouthernGuerilla
07-02-2008, 03:30 AM
Take the fight to the man!

HighTy
07-08-2008, 03:42 AM
So, is it likely that this will be on the november ballot? HOw close are we? Whats the latest update?

veggii
07-13-2008, 02:47 AM
Take the fight to the man!


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

a420seeker
07-17-2008, 03:38 AM
Sent snailmail, e-mail and a phone call and thinking about going to Austin and invite 'em to lunch. Nah! wouldn't be caught alive or dead schmoosing with a Republican.

a420seeker
07-17-2008, 04:00 AM
Sent snailmail, e-mail and a phone call and thinking about going to Austin and invite 'em to lunch. Nah! wouldn't be caught alive or dead schmoosing with a Republican.

I just added the link as a special bullitin in the header of my website. Lets see what happens!:rasta:

IrieIrie
07-31-2008, 06:02 AM
i just heard about this bill and did a little research and i'm gonna send an email and call my congress woman tomorrow. i'm also letting everyone know about this and to have them email and call their congress person. man this is big!

IrieIrie
07-31-2008, 04:40 PM
i emailed my congress woman last night and will probably give her a call tomorrow. and i feel this thread isn't getting as much attention as it should be because it's stickied it's just sitting there and maybe people don't notice it. hopefully more people come in here and see whats going on.

InTheTrees
07-31-2008, 04:49 PM
Is this bill done with? Or is still on-going? Sorry for be illiterate. :rastasmoke:

IrieIrie
08-01-2008, 05:40 PM
so far it's only been introduced. heres a site where you can track it's progress H.R. 5843: Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults (GovTrack.us) (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-5843)

chongaroo
08-06-2008, 10:02 PM
Just filled it out and didn't take long at all. Thank you for such an easy form!

Forwhat420
08-06-2008, 11:50 PM
did my part...Everyone lets get it this time! keep this at the top of the boards!!!

GreenDestiny
08-07-2008, 01:59 PM
I sent an email today. First time I've ever done it.
Then reposted a link on myspace for it.

SouthernGuerilla
08-09-2008, 01:03 AM
Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 5/22/2008(withdrawn - 7/31/2008)

Rep Zoe Lofgren of California has withdraw support for HR5843 on July 31st 2008.

elskeetro
08-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Email sent!

It's funny. I was uncomfortable at first disclosing my name and address, But if i had 3 wishes i would use all 3 to legalize cannabis.

It's also funny, I'm a graphic designer for a state university. A few months ago i designed a piece that was sent to our legislator about supporting the state universities through all these budget cuts and what not. Now i'm sending him a letter about decriminalizing cannabis.

Nervous, but knowing the greater good,
Skeet.

psybates
08-13-2008, 05:17 PM
It's been too long this struggle has been going on and to no avail ! Legalize or face a Global ET contact :S5:

I think the latter is the next big thing to happen and soon :D

epilepticme
08-13-2008, 07:37 PM
A phone call makes a great impact as well.

Congress.org - Congressional Directory (http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt)

I try to call my Rep's office once or twice a month just to let them know I am not going any where and I still vote.

veggii
08-13-2008, 08:20 PM
what we need here is a mass spam email client and send to every voter in US.... get the word out !!

pinkyslayer
08-13-2008, 09:10 PM
we need a way for the administrators to make this the first page to pop up when you come to the forums, and you should be required to fill out the form and send the letter! This is the most encouraging thing I've read about in a long time, and I don't know what excuse anyone could have for not taking twenty seconds and sending the message. Kudos to all the people who have signed it!

Sir Bliss
08-14-2008, 12:01 AM
we need a way for the administrators to make this the first page to pop up when you come to the forums, and you should be required to fill out the form and send the letter! This is the most encouraging thing I've read about in a long time, and I don't know what excuse anyone could have for not taking twenty seconds and sending the message. Kudos to all the people who have signed it!

Great idea.

Also, new members should be required the fill out the form to finish their registration ;)

SouthernGuerilla
08-14-2008, 12:38 AM
Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 5/22/2008(withdrawn - 7/31/2008)

Rep Zoe Lofgren of California has withdraw support for HR5843 on July 31st 2008.


A phone call makes a great impact as well.

Congress.org - Congressional Directory (http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt)

I try to call my Rep's office once or twice a month just to let them know I am not going any where and I still vote.

Props to you epilepticme. Too many people are scared to even email. I like to email and send a physical letter via the USPS(United States Postal Service).

I broached the subject today with my new boss, mind you today was my first day on the job. He said he didn't understand why people use marijuana. I left it there since he's damn near father time and I don't want to get fired for some bs. I'll end up discussing it a bit more once I get to know him better.

GoddessHerb
08-18-2008, 10:18 PM
It's a good step but slightly irresponsible IMHO. I think it's dangerous to "de-criminalize/legalize" Cannabis posession without providing for the legal means of distribution. Doing so leaves the door open for criminal elements to profit without competetion. Such legislation will only serve to feed the prohibitionist propaganda when it fails to curb crime rates.

I think we should at least legalize posession and cultivation for personal use in any quantity and limit transfers to barter on a non profit basis. Meaning the Cannabis and the bartered goods/services are equal in value and no cash exchanged hands. This means people would have to trade something instead of money to obtain cannabis. That means your "friends" would be reqired by law to give something in return for your generous gifts of Cannabis. You could then move on to setting up a legal Cannabis distribution system that is fairly taxed and regulated while keeping the barter system for private transactions.

I think this is a fairly unique approach to the problem of criminal orginizations exploiting the lack of legal distribution channels in an era of legalized personal posession. Posession laws only effect those who can afford and/or are willing to purchase their Cannabis at an inflated price from criminal elements. It does nthing to protect those who supply Cannabis outside of these criminal orginizations. It seems to me that it would be beneficial to promote a peaceful distribution chain rather than a violent one. Just my :twocents:

BTW, I have written my reps about voting on every Cannabis measure that has gone to vote since 2001.

Blessed be~

psychocat
08-18-2008, 11:56 PM
Good luck with this folks.
This is one case where if America leads I wouldn't mind Britain following. :thumbsup:

psychocat
08-19-2008, 12:14 AM
Cannabis generates around $600 million a year for the Dutch goverment.

This paper explains the whole thing rather well even though it is incomplete.

Econmic Aspects of a Post-Prohibition Regime for Marijuana (http://www.bccla.org/prohibition/post%20prohibition.htm)

veggii
08-31-2008, 11:57 AM
might have to change from 5842 to 5843
Stand up and Fight Challenge


I'm writing to urge your support for H.R. 5842, also know as the ??Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act.?

If approved, H.R. 5842 would end the federal government??s conflict with the twelve states that have already approved medical cannabis legislation. At the same time, it will not alter or interfere with already existing federal laws discouraging the non-medical, recreational use of marijuana, nor would it force medical cannabis on states that have not approved it.

The use of marijuana as medicine is a public health issue; it should not be part of the war on drugs. According to a recent national survey of U.S. physicians conducted for the American Society of Addiction Medicine, nearly half of all doctors with opinions support legalizing cannabis as a medicine. Some 80 state and national health care organizations, including the American Nurses Association, American Public Health Association and The New England Journal of Medicine, support immediate, legal patient access to medical cannabis.

Most recently, the largest association of doctors of internal medicine and the second largest medical association in the country, the American College of Physicians, released a policy paper in support of medical cannabis, stating, "The ACP strongly urges protection from criminal or civil penalties for patients who use medical marijuana as permitted under state laws."

To deny an effective medication to the sick and dying in order to "send a strong message to kids" against drug abuse is cruel and unconscionable, and improperly interferes with the relationship between a patient and his or her physician. State and federal laws already allow the medical use of many drugs, such as cocaine and morphine, which can be abused in a non-medical setting. Basic compassion and common sense demand that we allow the seriously ill to use whatever medication provides safe and effective relief. That is why 8 out of 10 American voters now say they support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes.

Presently, twelve states - Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont and Washington - have enacted laws protecting medical marijuana patients from state prosecution. It??s time that we allowed our unique federalist system to work the way it was intended, and permit these states?? citizens and their representatives to enact laws permitting the medical use of cannabis, free from federal interference.

I believe it is unconscionable to deny this effective medicine to sick and dying patients. I urge you to support H.R. 5842.

flyingimam
09-01-2008, 06:12 AM
It's a good step but slightly irresponsible IMHO. I think it's dangerous to "de-criminalize/legalize" Cannabis posession without providing for the legal means of distribution. Doing so leaves the door open for criminal elements to profit without competetion. Such legislation will only serve to feed the prohibitionist propaganda when it fails to curb crime rates.


well u r right, i would assume these are things that will be brought up into attention while the bill is being worked up

the main thing really is a "political will" to go for this all the way... the rest are details that will eventually be ironed out... if personal possession becomes legal/decrimd, soon seeds cultivation must follow or perhaps something in regards of distribution must be done. meanwhile i highly doubt this will have any measurable impact on crime rates the way they are calculated...


this will leave way open to hit criminals of considerable size in business as before... it only decriminalizes/legalizes the "personal consumption" still getting busted with a 1lb brick on u will land u in jail... this will at worst push dealers into other drugs or at best it will make them find a legal way to hustle cuz any drug dealing above just sellin weed becomes quite the lifestyle and has a huge difference compared to just sellin the herb so many ppl, mainly students/kids will probably just drop out of the underground life when there is no more customers for it

i just hope the cultivation of personal plants to become legal/tolerated...
think about it: Cheap, top notch, customized, personally named bud, ALL YEAR ROUND... and u can even get a number of strains at the same time! :P

kurie726
09-13-2008, 06:53 PM
Has this been voted on yet? Does anyone know where it stands?

smartin.2006
09-13-2008, 07:25 PM
Has this been voted on yet? Does anyone know where it stands?

Nope the bill has only been introduced, the next step is to debate on the issue, then the house can vote on it, then the senate can vote and then the president has to sign it. You can check on the status of this bill by using this link OpenCongress - H.R.5843 Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h5843/show)

SouthernGuerilla
09-14-2008, 03:07 AM
CONTACT YOUR POLITICANS!

d4twamp
09-15-2008, 05:39 PM
well put veggii I agree, the feds are ok w/ doctors giving patients cocaine, heroin, amongst other harmful narcotics which have proven to be far more addictive and troublesome than cannabis ever will be.

look what happened after they prohibited alcohol, then after it was lifted look how much crime stopped. their not any closer to winning their so called war on drugs then they were at the begining. it's more like a war on American citizens constitutional rights...

On every piece of federally minted currency says the words " IN GOD WE TRUST " god put cannabis here for us to use just like the poppy, and the cocoa plant.. so if the federal gov trusts in god so much that they announce to the world, via our money. why don't they back it up by actions. if god grew this loveliest of plants first does that mean the FEDS would lock up their creator on cultivation charges if he was here in the flesh...

just my ranting 2 cents, damn I need a :smokebong:

D:S5:

smoothsmoke
09-16-2008, 06:08 AM
Weed just makes sense as a medicine, legalize that shizzle

headshake
10-14-2008, 11:20 PM
done! only a message but i will call back!

-shake

psychocat
10-14-2008, 11:46 PM
if god grew this loveliest of plants first does that mean the FEDS would lock up their creator on cultivation charges if he was here in the flesh...

just my ranting 2 cents, damn I need a :smokebong:

D:S5:

If they could they would , and they would lock up his son under the anti-terror laws ;)

Unknownfigure
10-29-2008, 06:59 AM
It's a good step but slightly irresponsible IMHO. I think it's dangerous to "de-criminalize/legalize" Cannabis posession without providing for the legal means of distribution. Doing so leaves the door open for criminal elements to profit without competetion. Such legislation will only serve to feed the prohibitionist propaganda when it fails to curb crime rates.

I think we should at least legalize posession and cultivation for personal use in any quantity and limit transfers to barter on a non profit basis. Meaning the Cannabis and the bartered goods/services are equal in value and no cash exchanged hands. This means people would have to trade something instead of money to obtain cannabis. That means your "friends" would be reqired by law to give something in return for your generous gifts of Cannabis. You could then move on to setting up a legal Cannabis distribution system that is fairly taxed and regulated while keeping the barter system for private transactions.

I think this is a fairly unique approach to the problem of criminal orginizations exploiting the lack of legal distribution channels in an era of legalized personal posession. Posession laws only effect those who can afford and/or are willing to purchase their Cannabis at an inflated price from criminal elements. It does nthing to protect those who supply Cannabis outside of these criminal orginizations. It seems to me that it would be beneficial to promote a peaceful distribution chain rather than a violent one. Just my :twocents:

BTW, I have written my reps about voting on every Cannabis measure that has gone to vote since 2001.

Blessed be~
Rather genius, if I say so myself...


Regulation and taxation would also open the doors to marijuana retail in the U.S., which would include maintenance of cannabis farms, handling of it, shipping, etc, which transfers to more job opportunities for our citizens. And you know all the stoners would consider tending marijuana plants the PERFECT job.


I support the bill, of course. I feel in my soul that decriminalization, at the least, will be reached within the next eight years... at a nation-wide basis. Nothing to support that, though, just a feeling...

Merry Ye Meet & Merry Ye Part ;)

imagoober
10-29-2008, 07:27 PM
Its how some of us are forced to get it anyways. Beside with it being legal good people wont be afraid to sell and people wont be afraid to talk about smoking allowing you to find a reliable source. Not to mention adults dont have to go that route if they dont want to, and kinds should not smoke! The second it becomes legalized businesses will pop up everywhere and thell have to register as a business and pay taxes so all we really need is a few rules and regulations. Quality standards. Hum FDA

flyingimam
10-30-2008, 12:10 AM
we can only wait and see what happens in 2009... but something within me tells me to stay tightly hopeful this time around

u know, we got the perfect storm for this bill to pass with the current situation

especially if the local proposals get a GREEN YES from voters before this comes to light in 2009:D

maybe its just wishful thinking, but I say with Obama in office, ONDCP will have to at least "change" the way it does business

Obama said he will order a review of all government spending from TOP to bottom eliminating the unnecessary ones and the non-working ones, i would assume this will include the "war on drugs". who knows, all i can do is to wait n see, however, im 120% certain mccain wont even consider this an issue, its already resolved for him as it is...

beachguy in thongs
11-02-2008, 02:10 AM
Obama said he will order a review eliminating the unnecessary ones and i would assume this will include the "war on drugs".

But, that would mean ruining all of Joe Biden's hard work.

flyingimam
11-02-2008, 04:47 AM
But, that would mean ruining all of Joe Biden's hard work.

it shouldn't matter, if he reviews everything from top to bottom and halt the inefficient, ineffective and unnecessary programs (should he become the next prez) many hard works and too many politicians will get ruined, joe biden is just one of them

information we have on marijuana and the way our drug war has failed, should be very clear signals that there is some major change needed in the way govt looks at drugs especially mj

I dont see why changing positions or reversing ways is hypocritic or wrong as long as its a correction.

beachguy in thongs
11-02-2008, 05:31 AM
it shouldn't matter, if he reviews everything from top to bottom and halt the inefficient, ineffective and unnecessary programs (should he become the next prez) many hard works and too many politicians will get ruined, joe biden is just one of them

information we have on marijuana and the way our drug war has failed, should be very clear signals that there is some major change needed in the way govt looks at drugs especially mj

I dont see why changing positions or reversing ways is hypocritic or wrong as long as its a correction.

Well, as long as the politicians listen to the scientists. As of now, Obama equates cannabis with morphine, which is wrong.

It could be a long while, before he would even approach that subject. I don't think learning about our physiological system is near the top of his priority-list.

flyingimam
11-02-2008, 06:41 AM
Well, as long as the politicians listen to the scientists. As of now, Obama equates cannabis with morphine, which is wrong.

It could be a long while, before he would even approach that subject. I don't think learning about our physiological system is near the top of his priority-list.

I hope our rights are!!!

look, im not obama nor am i his spokesman, but rationally thinking about it when he says he will eliminate stupid spending, or inefficient spending, one of the most admittedly inefficient programs by all accounts is the war on drugs. it doesn't mean it will stop, but there definitely is some desperate need for change in the way its conducted. Jailing people and labeling them as criminals for addiction is a really old way of thinking, some countries in europe have made it clear that they do not count addicts as criminals but people with a problematic trait who need help, not punishment

despite all the facts, even the drug czar had to lie about this and said that no1 goes to jail for a joint, but we all know thats a lie, guess why he had to make it, cuz it totally doesnt make any sense to do such a thing, at least he had to lie under pressure to keep a good face

funny this thread is trackbacked to another website:D

iamapatient
11-17-2008, 07:43 PM
"This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills go first to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills never make it out of committee. Keep in mind that sometimes the text of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned. [Last Updated: Nov 6, 2008]"

This bill, not even in committee yet, really doesn't go far enough in decriminalizing. It'd still be illegal to grow, which is required to possess. It is a start though...

Bongboy89
11-20-2008, 10:37 PM
Decrimializing pot would be one of the top 5 best thing to ever happen in my lifetime.. AND 3.5 ounces/100grams I WOULD BE SO HAPPY!!! please support this and put a permanent end to all unessasary arrests for cannabis consumers!!

RastaGanjaMan
12-15-2008, 09:09 AM
Anyone willing to start a movement?.. The time is now.:rastasmoke::hippy::rasta::jointsmile::thumbsu p:

rillorollinfool
12-17-2008, 11:50 PM
Im nervous about sending my name and email out since i grow. if i didnt i would put my name up. im SCARED! lol

Just so you know feds look at this page! So stating you grow illegally will put a bigger target on you than making the phone call. You can be tracked down from the boards. So for your own safety never post that your a grower!

epilepticme
12-18-2008, 02:15 AM
My senators office knows me by name now. There is no such thing as "to much" when talking about how much to advocate for the cannabis.

leadmagnet
12-18-2008, 07:57 PM
well u r right, i would assume these are things that will be brought up into attention while the bill is being worked up

the main thing really is a "political will" to go for this all the way... the rest are details that will eventually be ironed out... if personal possession becomes legal/decrimd, soon seeds cultivation must follow or perhaps something in regards of distribution must be done. meanwhile i highly doubt this will have any measurable impact on crime rates the way they are calculated...


In my opinion, GoddessHerb is one hundred percent correct. Things seldom just "work themselves out". Without initially addressing the issues of production and distribution, almost ALL of the ills that prohibitionists attach to use but which are actually the direct result of prohibitionist policy will still be present. They will have plenty of ammunition with which to convince the sheeple to then AGAIN criminalize the drug.

Lead

luciddreamer
02-18-2009, 09:54 PM
It says "(did not happen)" on that site for the Medical one. Does that just mean hasn't happened yet or what?

kingderock
03-05-2009, 10:02 PM
For all those who are tight asses pay attention. We are not here to hurt anyone, we have jobs, pay our taxes and on a daily basis do all the right things. I just have 1 question why is it ok that alcohol is legal but marijuana is not. People die everyday from alcohol weather it be in car accidents, overdoses, or liver disease and this is ok but Marijuana who never harmed anyone is not legal. This is puzzeling to me, what is the worstthing that could happen tight asses we get hungry and eat a little more, or we become more friendly, um can someone tell me how this is harmfull? Ciggeretts are legal but they cause cancer, hmmmmmm. Do you people understand where i am comming from? The government wants to stimulate the economy, well here is an idea legalize medical marijuana, put a tax on it and i bet you this would definitely help the economy. For the non believers, take a real poll with real americans and you will see that alot more people smoke marijuana than you think. Most of these people are well respected people who are doctors, lawyers, and teachers. In my opinion there are much worse things to worry about in life and marijuana never hurt anyone so i just don't see the reason it is not legal. Please someone challenge me on this and i will come up with a rebuttle for everything you have.

luciddreamer
03-12-2009, 01:01 PM
You do realise you're on a pro marijuana forum right?
Write to your politicians instead of us, they're the ones that need to be convinced, not us. Write them and tell them how it can help the economy. Do your part mate, GO MAN GO!

hellfire419
04-08-2009, 06:53 PM
called and talked to them. talk about nerve racking. ha. well worth a minute or two with the Man.

lets get it done!

ironroughneck
04-11-2009, 12:44 AM
i'm glad its finally been done. i visit norml frequently and i've sent emails to the reps for medical marijuana in texas and for the decrim of 2 oz or less. i got a letter in the mail from the representative thanking me for taking interest in HB 902 the one for medical marijuana in texas. i was very surprised to say the least.

ironroughneck
04-27-2009, 08:13 PM
i'm glad its finally been done. i visit norml frequently and i've sent emails to the reps for medical marijuana in texas and for the decrim of 2 oz or less. i got a letter in the mail from the representative thanking me for taking interest in HB 902 the one for medical marijuana in texas. i was very surprised to say the least

edit house bill 902 is for the decrim of marijuana in texas. sorry

headshake
04-27-2009, 08:42 PM
you might want to read up on that bill again.

here is the first part of it:

81R639 CAE-D

By: Dutton H.B. No. 902



A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT
relating to the penalties for possession of two ounces or less of
marihuana and to the issuance of an occupational driver's license.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 481.121, Health and Safety Code, is
amended by amending Subsection (b) and adding Subsections (c) and
(d) to read as follows:
(b) An offense under Subsection (a) is:
(1) a Class C misdemeanor if the amount of marihuana
possessed is one ounce or less, except as provided by Subsection
(c);
(2) a Class B misdemeanor if the amount of marihuana
possessed is two ounces or less but more than one ounce;
(3) [(2)] a Class A misdemeanor if the amount of
marihuana possessed is four ounces or less but more than two ounces;

from what i can gather, it says that 1 oz. or less will be a class C (fine of up to $500 with no chance of jail time) but more than 1 and less than 2 is still a class B.

at least that's what i gather from it.

and there is no bill in the texas house of reps. for medicinal marijuana. there is HB 164, which protects doctors that recommend a patient use cannabis as a medicine.

here is the entire bill.


A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT
relating to the medical use of marihuana.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 481.121, Health and Safety Code, is
amended by adding Subsections (c) and (d) to read as follows:
(c) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under
Subsection (a) that the person possessed the marihuana as a patient
of a physician licensed to practice medicine in this state pursuant
to the recommendation of that physician for the amelioration of the
symptoms or effects of a bona fide medical condition.
(d) An agency, including a law enforcement agency, of this
state or a political subdivision of this state may not initiate an
administrative, civil, or criminal investigation into a physician
licensed to practice medicine in this state on the ground that the
physician discussed marihuana as a treatment option with a patient
of the physician or made a written or oral statement that, in the
physician's opinion, the potential benefits of marihuana would
likely outweigh the health risks for a particular patient.
SECTION 2. Subchapter B, Chapter 164, Occupations Code, is
amended by adding Section 164.0525 to read as follows:
Sec. 164.0525. MEDICAL USE OF MARIHUANA. A physician may
not be denied any right or privilege or be subject to any
disciplinary action solely for making a written or oral statement
that, in the physician's professional opinion, the potential
benefits of marihuana would likely outweigh the health risks for a
particular patient.
SECTION 3. The change in law made by this Act applies only
to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this Act.
An offense committed before the effective date of this Act is
covered by the law in effect when the offense was committed, and the
former law is continued in effect for that purpose. For purposes of
this section, an offense was committed before the effective date of
this Act if any element of the offense was committed before that
date.
SECTION 4. This Act takes effect September 1, 2009.


i like the attitude and enthusiasm. i hope you put it to good use in the fight to either get medicinal marijuana or to get it decriminalized!


-shake

KOcaine420
05-26-2009, 04:57 AM
this is why cannabis is still illegal,most everyone in the US is
too scard to stand up and say "I want legal cannabis!".
we have to tell our congress or it will stay illegal.


:hippy: :hippy: :hippy:

agreed. Thanks for the heads up man. Sent a letter. I will be calling tomorrow.

headshake
05-26-2009, 05:24 AM
if i'm not mistaken that bill no longer is on the books. it was proposed in a previous session of congress. any bill not passed into law are taken off of the books.

often it will be reintroduced by committee members but it will be under a new number.

you can keep track of them here (http://www.govtrack.us/).


-shake

Sir Bliss
05-26-2009, 01:56 PM
if i'm not mistaken that bill no longer is on the books. it was proposed in a previous session of congress. any bill not passed into law are taken off of the books.

often it will be reintroduced by committee members but it will be under a new number.

you can keep track of them here (http://www.govtrack.us/).


-shake

Well that's depressing and very discouraging to those (including myself) who tried a number of times to get in contact with these congress men and women to get our point across.

Ugh.

dadrone
07-07-2009, 04:56 AM
The newest version of this bill is HR 2943.

H.R. 2943: Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2943)

headshake
07-07-2009, 04:59 AM
thanks dadrone! good looking out!


-shake

smokers
08-04-2009, 12:07 AM
just doing my part to keep this at the top of message boards
has this bill gone through?
id like to see if it is and i would like to see my own government do something similar as my mam is a "patient" only weed is illegal in any form here i had a joint taken off me a couple of weeks ago lol
:rastasmoke:

ohsnapitskandy
10-10-2009, 11:19 PM
Just sent a message to my rep and I'm crossing my fingers! Also told a few friends about it and they sent messages to our rep, so I've done my part for sure :dance:

CannaChrist
01-11-2010, 07:33 AM
Anyone know the current status of this bill?

jamessr
01-11-2010, 08:15 AM
If no one knows the status here cannachrist, can you find it out for us???:D your pretty good a googling things;););)

SirSmellyEwic
01-12-2010, 01:45 AM
Key phrase ppl: It
also would not affect any state or local laws and regulations.

I'm not trying to be a bummer, nor am i a foe of legalization. However, this bill is a waste of time. And we all know none of us actually believe the "domino" effect theory that the opposition believes in... you know the whole legalize this, n this is next, then before you know it heroin is legal.

This is a patronizing bill. Support it if you wish... it would be a great moral victory. However, just remember not to stop there. Too often the drug policy reform movement gets complacent. But worse not taken seriously by society in general. This bill feels like an attempt to shut us up. Okay here ya go... since no one has been charged with a federal crime for mere possession in who knows how long. smoke n mirrors, or should i just say, mirrors lol. it's like our "universal" health care that doesn't even have a public option. great job government... way to drop the ball on that one.

We need to push for decriminalization of all intoxicants... one package deal. What a person puts in their body is their own choice... and no country OR state should be able to say anything about it. Not to mention the War on Drugs money should be spent building State Funded rehab facilities... if ppl actually cared about addicts, and really wanted to help them, this would be the route, not throwing them in jail and taking away their voting rights... at the very least we as a movement should start by pushing that all drug "crimes" even transportation and such, have their felony status removed.

it is a joke, that a guy whom a large group of people watched bash another mans (who wasn't fighting back nor wanted to fight, and was already knocked out) head into the ground 10 times... can only be facing 5 to 10 years. whereas, had he simply been caught with say cocaine, he'd be facing 15 years. That just shows you how America thinks... we want to prevent violence, so that's why drugs carry such crimes... yet clearly that's not working... violent ppl exist because our culture and society is sadistic and resentful and not capable of social understanding and acceptance. That's why ppl cheer on murder... or root for the bully to "teach that guy a lesson for having an opinion, or behaving in a way we didn't wish" and then lie to the police to protect. An entire group remained silent or lied. Great job guys... yet that same group would call the police in a second if they saw a car in their bowling alley parking lot who they thought were selling drugs.

That's American Society. And the politicians on the left exhibit 1 Barack Obama... are worse than the ones on the right. The ones on the right we know are against us. The ones on the left at best look at our movement as an embarrassing cousin at a family get together, and at worst... do what they can behind the scenes to shut us up.

Keep up the good fight. I just think we need a new strategy. Fight fire with fire ppl. Give the conservative forces in this country an inch and they will make sure you never smile again. This bill while it may look nice... has no real legal consequence. It is a sign that we are gaining momentum, however this is an attempt to steal that momentum... either by having it pass and mean nothing, or having it fail and appear as a huge loss, tho it isn't.

CannaChrist
01-13-2010, 07:51 AM
If no one knows the status here cannachrist, can you find it out for us???:D your pretty good a googling things;););)

I'll check upstairs. The big guy knows.:)

CannaChrist
01-13-2010, 07:58 AM
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session. :wtf:

LLLou2
03-02-2010, 12:06 AM
Screw asking your representatives to support this bill, TELL THEM TO ! also tell them that you will check their votes to see who you can vote OUT.

LLLou2
03-02-2010, 12:21 AM
For all those who are tight asses pay attention. We are not here to hurt anyone, we have jobs, pay our taxes and on a daily basis do all the right things. I just have 1 question why is it ok that alcohol is legal but marijuana is not. People die everyday from alcohol weather it be in car accidents, overdoses, or liver disease and this is ok but Marijuana who never harmed anyone is not legal. This is puzzeling to me, what is the worstthing that could happen tight asses we get hungry and eat a little more, or we become more friendly, um can someone tell me how this is harmfull? Ciggeretts are legal but they cause cancer, hmmmmmm. Do you people understand where i am comming from? The government wants to stimulate the economy, well here is an idea legalize medical marijuana, put a tax on it and i bet you this would definitely help the economy. For the non believers, take a real poll with real americans and you will see that alot more people smoke marijuana than you think. Most of these people are well respected people who are doctors, lawyers, and teachers. In my opinion there are much worse things to worry about in life and marijuana never hurt anyone so i just don't see the reason it is not legal. Please someone challenge me on this and i will come up with a rebuttle for everything you have.

UHH, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.:rastasmoke:

pepurr
03-05-2010, 03:41 AM
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session. :wtf:

H.R. 5843 [110th]: Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults (GovTrack.us) (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-5843)

sonsjon
05-05-2010, 01:48 PM
isn't there something akin to this in limbo now?

letstalkPrimo
05-13-2010, 12:17 AM
I'll tell you where I stand and how to win any argument with the Prohibitionists.
See my online video here at cannabis.com or at my site Let's Talk About Pot, and Marijuana, anc Cannabis, and their Medical Uses (http://www.letstalkaboutpot.com)
I want to help
Primo

jtruckit
01-24-2011, 11:23 PM
Great post. Thanks for the info.

EverySeedBearinPlant
03-15-2011, 12:27 AM
Check us out on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/EverySeedBearingPlant. Establishing the God connection to the Marijuana, Poppy and Coca plant. :thumbsup:

obama5493
03-15-2011, 01:54 PM
I agree just man up your not gonna get caught for growing cause you emailed your senator about wanting him to support a bill. I grow i send emails with my name.

I've sent my rep messages twice on these bills already. I also contact my state people when local bills are in the house or senate. They don't have a clue. They need to hear from us.

_____________
link magnets (http://www.globolstaff.com/link-magnets.html)

OhNoYaDont
03-18-2011, 06:34 PM
I've sent my rep messages twice on these bills already. I also contact my state people when local bills are in the house or senate. They don't have a clue. They need to hear from us.

_____________
link magnets (http://www.globolstaff.com/link-magnets.html)


Potheads vote?

I know, there must be a couple of them that do, but really ... they're not really a major political force. In fact they're not a force at all - political or otherwise. Unless, of course, their favorite dispensory raises the prices $5 a gram -

CarolinaHaz3
12-19-2011, 05:22 PM
Does anyone know about the North Carolina congress saying anything about them legalizing marijuana in nc. I have been hearing and cant seem to find anything on the internet

painretreat
12-22-2011, 07:01 AM
Fresh post old thread! One of these may help? I personally am hearing more about Florida right now!NORML
www.norml.org (http://marijuananews.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3ad9c34c3647fc7c1f237dc8f&id=7fbde02e5c&e=98fd4198da)
1600 K St, NW, Mezzanine Level, Washington DC 20006

MPP - Marijuana Policy Project
www.mpp.org (http://marijuananews.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=3ad9c34c3647fc7c1f237dc8f&id=22d4aa9303&e=98fd4198da)
POB 77492, Capitol Hill, Washington, DC 20013

ASA - Americans for Safe Access
www.safeaccessnow.org (http://marijuananews.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3ad9c34c3647fc7c1f237dc8f&id=d2ba760d5d&e=98fd4198da)
1322 Webster Street, Suite 402 , Oakland, CA 94612

When you find out, please drop back in and start a new thread and let us know??? pr

williboy
03-08-2012, 08:34 AM
Yep get the word out! Leaders today only follow the majority opinion so don't be silent. We all need to sing this song loud, clear, and all 10 verses.

4kush2nug0
04-02-2012, 03:00 AM
AMERICA: VOTE RON PAUL FOR 2012. HE WILL NOT ONLY GIVE US OUR NATURAL HERB, BUT HE WILL GIVE US OUR TRUE FREEDOM BACK AND THE CONSTITUTION! :D:hippy:

medMUser
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Some one forgot to mention that Ron Paul is on the bill.

As POTUS Ron would not only set cannabis free & call of the fed cannadogs, he would pardon ALL non violent MJ users currently in jail for a BOGUS fed law that enriches the true drug pushers which is the Rx industry, the synthetic chemical industry, cotton farmers....

Ron also opposes the 'Patriot' Act, NDAA detention & every thing the feds do against the US Constitution.

If you have yet to do so, look up Henry Ford's hemp car @ YouTube. Pretty cool it was! :-) Like the late Jack Herer said "Hemp can save the planet!".

I know I'm late to this thread, but the info is still good.

Hope every one gets really sticky fingers & nice scissor hash. :-)

mM

MightyBlaze
09-17-2012, 03:53 AM
interesting indeed...

MightyBlaze
09-17-2012, 04:05 AM
I find this stuff all interesting.

ghost83
12-08-2012, 03:12 PM
Did my part. I hope this passes its retarded that its still illegal.