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fakeUsername
04-09-2008, 03:31 AM
I have two high pressure continuous duty 1 g/hr pumps. All of the systems I see have much, much more flow than this. If I have mist saturation though, isn't that irrelevant? I can run 24/7 if necessary.

Why are the flow rates so high for the systems I've seen, and why is this necessary?

flow
04-20-2008, 08:48 PM
I have two high pressure continuous duty 1 g/hr pumps. All of the systems I see have much, much more flow than this. If I have mist saturation though, isn't that irrelevant? I can run 24/7 if necessary.

Why are the flow rates so high for the systems I've seen, and why is this necessary?

Im not sure if this is what you mean, but a lot of diy "aeroponic" systems out there right now are not really aeroponic. They are more like an aero/nft hybrid. They use lower pressure pumps that dont create as fine a mist as the "TAG" techniques. These pumps have a much higher gal/hr but much lower psi. Im actually running a aero/nft hybrid system right now and will be switching to TAG as soon as possible. Im not really sure what the exact flow rates are of most high pressure pumps are though, so i may be completely off.

hatch
04-20-2008, 10:29 PM
Say Bro, What's UP???, Hey let Me help You out alittle.

OK, I use Aeroponic's for long time, You need a High Velocity pump to get a good mist!!!~~~I use 1400gph pump's. If not it will just dribble out of the Mister's, & wont water the root's like they need. & it will really Piss You off, Beleive Me!!!!~~~~

My System are not Bubbler's, Like abunch of other System's, It is a True Aeroponic's Jet Mist System. All the Pod''s in each Grow Room drain back to there own Res., Whitch Most of My Res. are 20gal. or Bigger.


Allright You need to do a Sceince Project::: Make you a Model with some mister's, & See what Your Pump can do. & You can use this Model to fine Toon Your System before you get a bunch of stuff You dont't need.

Here is what Your Model might what to lookkn like EH!!!~~~


All-Ridy-Then, Hope this might help You get some Idea's, Good Luck On Your Aeroponic System!!!!!

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OLDJIMMYBONES
04-24-2008, 01:04 AM
You need a High Velocity pump to get a good mist

This isnt true i have 2 legit aeroponic systems neither of which have pumps they use Vortex Sprayers there is NOTHING BETTER


btw a Vortex Sprayer creates soft of a tornado in the water then sucks the water through the tube with angles fins and sprays out

hatch
04-26-2008, 02:37 AM
This isnt true i have 2 legit aeroponic systems neither of which have pumps they use Vortex Sprayers there is NOTHING BETTER


btw a Vortex Sprayer creates soft of a tornado in the water then sucks the water through the tube with angles fins and sprays out


OK My Brother, I Won't Say That Your System Is Not True!!!!

But I will Say, They Are Totally Different System's!!! Your's Uses Regular Sprayer's, I Guess, You didn't show use any Pic's or any other info??????? I Built My System, As You Can See In The Pic's., My System Work's with High Velocity Mister's, & Work Best With A High Velocity Pump!!~~~ AND YES, THIS IS TRUE, YOU CAN SEE IN COLOR PICTURE'S:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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spacemyface
04-28-2008, 01:33 PM
Hatch, Tell us how you made your sytem. I'm gathering info, want to build my own system.
Thanks

hatch
04-28-2008, 11:11 PM
Hatch, Tell us how you made your sytem. I'm gathering info, want to build my own system.
Thanks

Say Bro, What's UP???? Hey, Have You Checked Out My System In My Thread???, Top One On My Sig..:pimp::pimp:

If not check it out. If You have any Question's, I can answer them in My Thread.:smokin::smokin:

FakeUsername, Say, Did You get everything worked out & Running??? :D:wtf::stoned:

OLDJIMMYBONES
04-29-2008, 05:20 AM
OK My Brother, I Won't Say That Your System Is Not True!!!!
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But I will Say, They Are Totally Different System's!!! Your's Uses Regular Sprayer's, I Guess, You didn't show use any Pic's or any other info??????? I Built My System, As You Can See In The Pic's., My System Work's with High Velocity Mister's, & Work Best With A High Velocity Pump!!~~~ AND YES, THIS IS TRUE, YOU CAN SEE IN COLOR PICTURE'S:thumbsup::thumbsup:
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1st im not your brother, 2nd i have seen your pictures and a friend a an extremely similar with the same sprayers and it creted a fine mist but imo aeroponics is more of a EXTREMELY FINE MIST like a steam which is what a vortex produces. also i didnt post pictures because it is a name brand product in which one click on google can show you pics/info/everything

OLDJIMMYBONES
04-29-2008, 05:46 AM
1st im not your brother, 2nd i have seen your pictures and a friend a an extremely similar with the same sprayers and it creted a fine mist but imo aeroponics is more of a EXTREMELY FINE MIST like a steam which is what a vortex produces. also i didnt post pictures because it is a name brand product in which one click on google can show you pics/info/everything

didnt mean to come off like a scumbag, just pissed about some shit, but anyway i was at greenhouse (not a green house but cant think of the word) btu they use aeroponics to grow lettuce and there equitment produced a mist that would put me to extreme shame and it was explained to me how it is only truly aeroponic, if the water particle size is at a exttreme low and this is the only way to evenly balance the water to air ratio so i would say technecialy neither of us probly have true aeroponic systems. but what the fuck do i know

hatch
04-30-2008, 01:57 AM
OK DUDE, I don't won't to be going back in forth with You, I see under Your User Name, That You Are Registered to this Site, Whitch is A Community!!!! I Hate To Bust Your Bubble, But YES, You & Every-One-Else that are Registered to the Cummunity, Are Brother's & Sister's Of The Cannabis.Com.:thumbsup:

And about your system, Ya I guess I'll have to google it,:wtf::wtf: if I wanted to know anything about it.;)

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hatch
04-30-2008, 02:29 AM
OK oldjimmybones, Now that we have that out of the way!!!!~~~~This is what My Aeroponic System, Oxygen-Nut-Water-Mix Look's like!!!~~~I have Pic's~~~~and Since You are The Expert, And have been some-where with a friend, & seen a REAL Aeroponic System!!!!WOW~~~~You make The Call!!! Is My System A Real Aeroponic's???:hippy::hippy:

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OLDJIMMYBONES
04-30-2008, 03:09 AM
OK oldjimmybones, Now that we have that out of the way!!!!~~~~This is what My Aeroponic System, Oxygen-Nut-Water-Mix Look's like!!!~~~I have Pic's~~~~and Since You are The Expert, And have been some-where with a friend, & seen a REAL Aeroponic System!!!!WOW~~~~You make The Call!!! Is My System A Real Aeroponic's???:hippy::hippy:

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WELL I TRYED TO MAKE UP AND BE NICE BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO BE HONEST NOW THAT IVE SEEN YOUR SYSTEM IN ACTION THIS IS THE REASON THAT I BUY PREFAB AND DONT TRY TO PLAY PLUMMER/BUILDER AND MAKE MY OWN SHIT BECAUSE IT NEVER TURNS LIKE IT SHOULD. I LET GENERAL HYDROPONICS BUILD MY SHIT AND I HAVE TO IMAGINE AFTER MANY YEARS IN THE BISS AND MAKING A NAME LIKE GH WHAT IT IS TODAY THEY HAVE A FUCKING CLUE HOW TO PRODUCE A QUALITY PRODUCT. ILL POST A PIC OF IT IN ACTION TOMMAROW AS ITS LIGHTS OUT FOR MY PLANTS FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS

jEthereal
05-01-2008, 05:16 PM
Like I Said, FUCK YOU LITTLE BITCH!!!!!

just wanted to drop in and say....

you guys are arguing over FUCKING SEMANTICS!!!! over a FUCKING DEFINITION!!! jesus christ.....what are we trying to acheive here????

i'm sure i'll get flamed for being a 'n00b' no this site, but i'm no n00b to growing. never done aero, i'm a soil man as of now.... however, the absolute SIMPLICITY of some of these aero designs has me intrigued.

i'd rather do like hatch - build my own. that way, i can stand back and say "i put work into this. i did this myself and saved some $$!!"

but, if i had the $$ then maybe i'd just get something pre-fab. who knows!! i'm a frugal guy with a small income and obviously you have to work within a budget.

if it works for you, (which for hatch it obviously does as I've been checking his images for the past hour....) then fine, go with it. but don't go back and forth bitching and insulting each other over whether or not droplets of water larger than half a micron (etc etc) are qualified as "true aeroponics"

is there an aeroponic bible out there that defines the boundaries of aeroponics? WHO FUCKING CARES!! it's not about being RIGHT, it's about (as hatch states) BEING PART OF A COMMUNITY, AND SHARING KNOWLEDGE.

i think there is enough mud-slinging on the internet already. you both grow dank, you are both part of a community like hatch says.

hey jimmy can you PLEASE post a LINK to the sprayers you have?

i find vortex sprayers but they're 129.00 EACH? just because you say "vortex sprayer" doesn't mean that I'm going to find the same item you use when I google the term you give. I want to see EXACTLY what you're using because I'm a hydro/aero n00b.

And pictures/descriptions of HOW your system works only help to PASS ON the knowledge/concepts so others (like me/hatch) who prefer to DIY can take that knowledge/concept and apply it.

So, now that that is out of the way....CARRY ON!


jE

J

hatch
05-01-2008, 07:10 PM
JEthereal, You are exactly right!!! I'm Sorry every-one had to see this, It's not some of My Best Post's For Sure.

I believe I was trying to Help FakeUserName out, & show him about the Flow of Aeroponic's. When Some One Said It Wasn't True!!! I feel I have got My Point Across, Have Shown Indepth the Work's of the Flow & System!!!

I'm sorry I let Him get under My Skin, & I Apologize to All!!!! Ya, We don't need to do that around here, & Your right, I try to just provide info & Helpful advise. :pimp:

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jEthereal
05-01-2008, 07:41 PM
JEthereal, You are exactly right!!! I'm Sorry every-one had to see this, It's not some of My Best Post's For Sure.

I believe I was trying to Help FakeUserName out, & show him about the Flow of Aeroponic's. When Some One Said It Wasn't True!!! I feel I have got My Point Across, Have Shown Indepth the Work's of the Flow & System!!!

I'm sorry I let Him get under My Skin, & I Apologize to All!!!! Ya, We don't need to do that around here, & Your right, I try to just provide info & Helpful advise. :pimp:

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hey man it's all good.

been there, done that, shit happens ya know?

just thought it would be a good first post- it shows my intentions and reason for being here (and the other MJ boards....look around for me.)