Sick plant w/ pic (hopefully)

[haushoss]

Hello to all. I'm a first time grower--having a great time, by the way--so here weee go.. --indoor or outdoor Indoor
-soil, soilless, or hydroponic Soil

-Soil type/brand MG Organic

-Anything you have added to the soil Perlite (also MG)
-Soil pH Not sure
-Water source Groc. store distilled or purified
-Water pH I'm guessing neutral 7
-Age of plant Seedling/Veg=35 days. Flower 12/12=36 days
-Type of fertilizerMG all purpose for Veg and MG Bloom Booster for Flower
-Rate of application Just once for Veg. on the 27th day; and during the flower phase it has been every third or fourth watering
-Lighting source and distance from plant 400watt HPS about 14 in. above tops, 3-42watt CFL's on a few beauties and a 30watt 3 ft. flourescent tube in the backround
-Temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) In between 75F and 83F. And as low as 70F when the A/C is on
-% Relative humidity 45 to 55 percent
-Lighting schedule 12/12--lights on from 10 pm 'til 10 am
-Type of ventilation your room has Open room to my place
~~~~Now I will attempt to post a pic...

[haushoss]

~~~~Now I will attempt to post a pic... hmmmm...I can't seem to find the button for posting pics. I'll keep looking for it.:smokin:

[haushoss]

hmmmm...I can't seem to find the button for posting pics. I'll keep looking for it.:smokin:I seem to have a version of the claw going on here. This issue started about six days ago. Any ideas would be helpful. I've searched over the web and have looked through the "Bible" but still can't figure it out. I am game for troubleshooting. My compliments to this forum/site. It has been very informative and fun. :smokin: Hoss

[haushoss]

and some other pics...First pic is the grow shelf of the girl in questioned and second pic is a glorified bud shot.:smokin: Hoss

[daihashi]

several things:

1. You NEED to know the ph of your water. It's distilled and from the store but dont assume it's neutral. I've had distilled water that was ph of 5.5 and then went to another store and had distilled water at 7.4. You should definitely know this PH.

2. You say you're using distilled water or RO water. If so you need to be supplementing with Calcium/Magnesium. This is ESSENTIAL for the plants. Make sure they are getting it.

3. Plants seem big in the picture. Have you pulled the plants from the pots to see if they're rootbound?

4. Have you checked the soil run off ph. This is just as important if not more important than knowing the ph of the water before feeding your plants.

5. Do you ever water with just regular water. Constantly watering with a non organic fertilizer will result in salt build up and give you multiple lockout problems.



I recommend the following based on the little information I do know.

Pull the plant from the pot. Check to see if it is rootbound. If the plant is not rootbound then water the plants until you collect about 3-4oz of run off water.

Check the ph of this water. If it is outside of 6.3-6.8 then you need to do a flush.

People say to flush with 3x the pot size, but I think you should flush until you achieve the desired ph. When you're done with a flush be sure to water with a light nutrient solution. About 1/4 strength.

[haushoss]

Great suggestions. Thanks, Daihashi.
I recommend the following based on the little information I do know.

Pull the plant from the pot. Check to see if it is rootbound. If the plant is not rootbound then water the plants until you collect about 3-4oz of run off water.

Check the ph of this water. If it is outside of 6.3-6.8 then you need to do a flush.

People say to flush with 3x the pot size, but I think you should flush until you achieve the desired ph. When you're done with a flush be sure to water with a light nutrient solution. About 1/4 strength. I'll get started on it later this evening when my artificial sun rises. And will probably need to go buy a few 3 gallon pots before the store closes.
1. You NEED to know the ph of your water. It's distilled and from the store but dont assume it's neutral. I've had distilled water that was ph of 5.5 and then went to another store and had distilled water at 7.4. You should definitely know this PH. Man there I go assuming things again:) I checked just the first time I bought the distilled water and it was @ 6.8 on the color chart. Thanks for that tip.
2. You say you're using distilled water or RO water. If so you need to be supplementing with Calcium/Magnesium. This is ESSENTIAL for the plants. Make sure they are getting it.Ok, I'll also get some C/M. Do I stick to directions for mixing with water, or is there another method to add C/M for supplementing?
5. Do you ever water with just regular water. Constantly watering with a non organic fertilizer will result in salt build up and give you multiple lockout problems.Got it, thanks. At first when I read this I was thinking to myself--What does Daihashi mean by just regular water--. Even wrote out a response/question asking you about it. Then it dawned on me what you meant.:jointsmile: I have been using the fertilizer on every 3rd to 4th watering. Could'nt get it out of my head you were talking about type of water. LOL:stoned: Once again thanks for the info/help. I'll let you know how it goes.:smokin:Hoss