View Full Version : 12/12 from seed -update
Kbrandon
04-07-2008, 07:12 PM
Hi.
Kbrandon
04-07-2008, 07:15 PM
more pics
Kbrandon
04-07-2008, 07:17 PM
last 1's. :thumbsup:
stinkyattic
04-07-2008, 07:18 PM
Looking good, cut down the rim of the pot in the last pic to no more than 1" above the soil surface to improve air flow.
Very indica-dom structure already.
Kbrandon
04-07-2008, 07:20 PM
k i gotta find sumthin to cut it with cause its made out of a weird plasticv
stinkyattic
04-07-2008, 07:22 PM
Dremel tool? Tinsnips? Looks thick.
the image reaper
04-07-2008, 07:23 PM
you'll probably be transplanting into larger pot before long .. at that time, you can build it up to a higher level, too, for better exposure :thumbsup:
Kbrandon
04-08-2008, 03:31 AM
do i have to transplant it?
tha pot that i got is pretty big and i dont think my set up can handle a bigger pot.. im actually going to have to start scrogging it pretty soon.. or lst one of those 2..
oh and i dont have a dremel or any of those other things u mentioned...but maybe if i put one of those hand held fans in the pot to blow under the leaves... u think that would be good?
bijnas
04-08-2008, 04:08 AM
Heyyyy welcome back!
Your plants looking hardy!
bombdiggity
04-08-2008, 05:36 AM
welcome back
yay
darbolah
04-08-2008, 05:48 AM
keep updating your pics and problems you are having as im thinking of doing 12/12 from seed so i can have a constant harvest. You've defo got my interest :)
Good luck
bombdiggity
04-08-2008, 05:54 AM
keep updating your pics and problems you are having as im thinking of doing 12/12 from seed so i can have a constant harvest. You've defo got my interest :)
Good luck
I'm not an expert, but I'm not so sure that doing 12/12 from seed is going to help you at all with constant harvest. You might want to look up the term "perpetual harvest". :thumbsup:
Kbrandon
04-08-2008, 10:15 AM
I'm not an expert, but I'm not so sure that doing 12/12 from seed is going to help you at all with constant harvest. You might want to look up the term "perpetual harvest". :thumbsup:
yah 12/12 definitly isnt going to help with perpetual harvest..
i think u gotta have a plant always flowering and a plant always vegging.. so u need 2 rooms basically.
but if u dont have alot of time or are under restrictions or just want to experiment then yah try it out ill keep u posted on my grow so u can see wat 12/12 does..
jchap
04-08-2008, 10:29 AM
i grow my seeds under 12/12 alongside my mother plants
but when the light goes out i move them under a normal bulp for 4 hrs(to trick them):D
darbolah
04-08-2008, 11:46 AM
I'm not an expert, but I'm not so sure that doing 12/12 from seed is going to help you at all with constant harvest. You might want to look up the term "perpetual harvest". :thumbsup:
What i was planning was have a flowering room only with 12/12 and 400w hps. Every month i add 2-4 seedlings hence giveing me 1 or 2 plants to harverst every month if you know what i mean :P
bombdiggity
04-08-2008, 05:50 PM
putting plants that are already growing into 12/12 is not "12/12 from seed" but i see where ur going with that.
good idea :jointsmile:
Kbrandon
04-08-2008, 11:17 PM
i couldnt get any pictures but i think my baby is getting sick or something.
the leaves with the rigid edges but no fingers that were the first couple leaves that grew are turning yellow ..
but everything else is healthy green even the part of the stem below the leaves
its just those 2 leaves that are turning yellow... its weird lookin..
they dont feel dry and they arent drooping or wilting either... just yellow
EDIT: this is the pic of the leaves im talking about... but not actual pic of what they look like im just tellin u which leaves...
bijnas
04-09-2008, 12:58 AM
That happened with one of the leaves on my plants, but it didn't spread anywhere else. I looked it up in one of my books, but I couldn't find anything with just a completely yellow leaf. But what it usually means is that there is some sort of deficiency in one of the mobile nutrients (nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium magnesium or zinc). When there is a deficiency of a mobile nutrients, the plant will take the nutrients that are stored in the first/bottom leaves and transfer them to the most recent growth to try and ensure itself continued growth. So I can't say which it might be because there isn't a picture that I can compare it to, but if you're not already, try starting to use some nutrients. I'm using FoxFarm now, and it calls for GrowBig and BigBloom in the first few weeks of seedlings and then just GrowBig during the vegetative growth. If you go to a Grow Shop to get some, ask for the FoxFarm feeding schedule and it will tell you exactly how many nutrients you'll need and when.
Kbrandon
04-09-2008, 07:33 AM
yah i think she's beggining to die cause she seems like shes shrinking .... or maybe shes just sleep cause the leaves are just kinda droopy... or maybe i overwatered.. i dunno.
bombdiggity
04-09-2008, 07:38 AM
or maybe all that advice that u ignored is coming back to haunt you
Originally Posted by Kbrandon http://boards.cannabis.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/152852-my-grow-my-way-check-out-post1837233.html#post1837233)
And honestly i dunno why you guys are trying to make lil hints that im going to get banned.. whoopdefuckin doo' these sites are a dime a dozen and this one isn't even one of the better ones its just the first one i came across when i started my grow...
bijnas
04-09-2008, 07:54 AM
yah i think she's beggining to die cause she seems like shes shrinking .... or maybe shes just sleep cause the leaves are just kinda droopy... or maybe i overwatered.. i dunno.
Well, have you tried transplanting into a bigger pot? I just transplanted mine the day before last and the growth I've seen is amazing.
In this pic the little ones I just transplanted today and the bigger ones were from the day before last. You should think about moving to a bigger container, if possible.
darbolah
04-09-2008, 09:43 AM
yeah kbrandon, id say that there isnt a point posting on this forum if you arnt going to listen to any advice your given and then furthermore give abuse when people try and help. Take a step back and listen bro
stinkyattic
04-09-2008, 01:44 PM
All right folks, I think he gets it.
Check temperatures, humidity, soil moisture, and remember that if there was already fertilizer in the soil, you may have burned the plants chemically. Read the post in the sticky in my sig about seedling starting mix.
Kbrandon
04-09-2008, 03:40 PM
Well, have you tried transplanting into a bigger pot? I just transplanted mine the day before last and the growth I've seen is amazing.
In this pic the little ones I just transplanted today and the bigger ones were from the day before last. You should think about moving to a bigger container, if possible.
i havent transplanted but how would diffrent pot fix problem?
it hasnt even out grown the pot its in....
... but i got even more bad new guys... its startin to lose color all over now, not just bottom.. but it loooks like its fighting whatever it is.. ill post some pics if i can get themm to look good....
but yah i i dunno...
the temps have been dropping low in the middle of the night to around 65 degrees in my house... maybe thats whats causing it?
and it couldnt be a nute burn cause i havent been using nutes...
and i cant afford them....
but this is the reason why i wanted to use piss dilluted in water because it has the much needed mg and nitrogen for the plnt.
stinkyattic
04-09-2008, 03:42 PM
Did the soil have fertilizer in it already?
Be careful applying urine to the soil. It has a LOT and I mean a LOT of sodium, and to get the right level of N to teh plant, you are also adding salt, that can build up in the soil, drop the soil pH, and kill it.
65 degrees is fine for a night temp.
Kbrandon
04-09-2008, 03:52 PM
damnit it does have fertilizer...
i shoulda read that before i planted the plant...
but it was just wat i had layin in the garage.
Kbrandon
04-09-2008, 04:32 PM
damnit it does have fertilizer...
i shoulda read that before i planted the plant...
but it was just wat i had layin in the garage.
stinkyattic
04-09-2008, 05:11 PM
Get your materials ready ahead of time whenever you can. Meanwhile, you want to flush the plant with tap water at pH 6.8 to remove extra fertilizer. Use 3x the volume of the pot.
mushaboom
04-09-2008, 07:06 PM
sounds like you are having a ton of problems buddy... definitely dont feed urine to your plant. maybe you should consider deep water culture? no soil to mess with and its cheap to set up. get a bucket, pump, airstone, your choice of media and youre good to grow. you could do it for around 15-20 bucks i bet.
AllforMe
04-09-2008, 08:16 PM
mush, Kbrandon is pretty much a kid growing in his parent's house. he can't even let his seedlings veg for 18 hrs because mom and dad will see the light leaks and catch him. Even a small hydro setup in that cab will be too noisy. Pretty much he wants to grow in his nightstand, with little ventilatiion, incorrect lighting schedules, piss for nutes, and on top of it he thinks the smell of a flowering plant in his nightstand will not get him caught before the light leaks. Don't even bother because there is no advice anyone can give that doesn't somehow interfere with either him having absolutely no money, or getting him caught. Plus he got nasty with Stinky, who is a better person than I because I would insta-lock every thread he made if I was a mod and he disrespected the forum like that. LOL it's likely he cant even take the plant to the sink to flush it without having to wait until his parents are out!
AllforMe
04-09-2008, 08:25 PM
Oh, and KBrandon.....Your plant is extremely stunted. It has 3 nodes and is maybe an inch and a half tall in the last pic on the 7th, and that means your plant is 3 weeks old. I have a plant that is 4 weeks from seed, and has 11 nodes, is 10 inches tall, and a foot in diameter. That is the correct size(see my thread lower down) for that age. That plant will never mature, you will never see a bud off of it. Not jinxing you, just fact. Stinky keeps giving you advice, and you ignore or argue. LOL I think I am going to go onto body building forums and post threads repeatedly asking..."How do I maximize my mass gains?". "How do I increase my strength?" Then tell everyone that I refuse to work out, won't lift weights, and insist on eating candy for dinner daily. That sounds dumb but it is pretty much what you are doing here.
bijnas
04-09-2008, 09:22 PM
I think I am going to go onto body building forums and post threads repeatedly asking..."How do I maximize my mass gains?". "How do I increase my strength?" Then tell everyone that I refuse to work out, won't lift weights, and insist on eating candy for dinner daily.
Oh, that was a good laugh.
But seriously, KBrandon seems to be being a lot nicer and more open to advice than his previous threads, so why can't we just let those be and just try to help instead of harping on him? If he is willing to be more friendly about it, it makes you seem childish for trying to continue the feud. Let's not try to alienate people for their mistakes, everyone makes them. I mean come on, we're supposed to be "pot smoking hippies" with helpful advice instead of the 5th grader who makes fun of the retarded kid. So maybe let's just try and play nice?
AllforMe
04-10-2008, 12:01 AM
Sorry, but one thing that I am a vehement proponent of is trying to limit the stereotyping of pot smokers. I myself am a very responsible adult, who other than my use of cannabis medicinally and admittedly recreationally, follows the law as much as possible. I cannot and will not help a minor..(trust me this one is....) grow an illegal substance in his parent's house without their knowledge. It's even worse when he refuses to take advice from those he seeked it from, and got snotty. Lastly, is matters not how nice he is. He posted a grow, asked questions about it, got advice, ignored and reprimanded the givers of said advice, was warned of consequence, started to experience said consequence, and WANTS TO KNOW WHY!!! :D LOL if there is one thing I cannot tolerate its stupidity, and that level of stubborn is just stupid... (DISCLAIMER...By "stupid", I am not referring to anyone with a mental disability and/or incapacity. Just a stupid kid..) I understand your take, I just do not appreciate being berated when I am trying to help someone...after they asked for help.
stinkyattic
04-10-2008, 01:54 PM
I agree on both sides. On one hand, it's very important to present a good image of cannabis users- but that also includes IMHO the ability to just learn from our mistakes and accept that others are learning from theirs.
That being said, if there is even a HINT that this is a grow in your parents' house (I believe it is but can't prove it), this whole saga is going to go *poof* along with its author. Permanently. I'm dead serious about this. That's why I asked initially who was on the lease- and got a shit-eatingly snotty answer to that question. Which I haven't forgotten, don't anyone worry.
Kbrandon
04-10-2008, 03:28 PM
Okay my plant is looking better this morning
but hey
im done with this site....
Every one here is growing and smoking an illegal drug (even if u have card its illegal under fed law). With that said that doesnt give u the right to tell sum1 where they should and shouldnt grow thier shit at. Does any one else see the retardation in that? How can u be a criminal and tell people how to be a "morally correct criminal"?
so stinky suck my dick....along with the rest of you haters. Talkin bout me being some "kid", lol? I do more shit b4 breakfast than u guys do all day. So Why dont you do sumthing with ur life like get a job instead of followin me around aggitating me and then closing my thread. Then when i open another one u come bug me again....So what are you, 5? Very mature stinky.
Get a life, im out.
chek my grow out on 420mag if u wanna see progress.
stinkyattic
04-10-2008, 04:29 PM
I do more shit b4 breakfast than u guys do all day. So Why dont you do sumthing with ur life like get a job Haha. That's cute, kid. You have NO IDEA. Why don't YOU start by going to college (you can learn to spell there) instead of trying to grow shit in your mom's house. Then YOU can get a good job someday, buy your OWN house, and THEN grow... just like I did!:thumbsup:
keeko
04-10-2008, 05:14 PM
atleast we dont have to waste space with this deadbeat thread anymore. i say nuke it like it never happened.
the image reaper
04-10-2008, 05:41 PM
atleast we dont have to waste space with this deadbeat thread anymore. i say nuke it like it never happened.
oh, hell NO, don't delete his stuff, it's priceless :D ... this boy-child gave me a great Signature line (the 'PROPENSITY ?' lines) ... I mean, you can't make stuff like this up :S2:
daihashi
04-10-2008, 05:46 PM
I agree on both sides. On one hand, it's very important to present a good image of cannabis users- but that also includes IMHO the ability to just learn from our mistakes and accept that others are learning from theirs.
eh.. I only give people 1 try after being a jerk to me. The way I see it is if you keep rolling over for people then they are going to continue to grow thinking that if they are jackasses they will get their way.
Sorry, I don't bow down to people. Especially people that come to me/the forums for help.
They get 1 try after that I put them in their place or I humbly just refrain from the thread.
I suspectd kbrandon was a kid from his first post. Kbrandon you're right. Growing pot is illegal, but you know what. We aren't putting anyone else in danger except ourselves or people who are aware of what we're doing.
I would never risk someone else being charged with legal action because of my actions unknowingly to them. That is just stupid. Take responsibility for your actions.
Good luck on your grow jerkass :)
stinkyattic
04-10-2008, 05:55 PM
The thread stands as another reminder of what is not tolerated here. Kbrandon is on a lifer. My sympathy goes out to the poor souls who spawned him and pay for his food and housing. What a GREAT way to thank them! My parents would be appalled to see their kid behaving like that... they like to think they did a better job raising us RIGHT.
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