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Acezx
03-29-2008, 02:29 AM
I got all these spots over my plants I don't spray them with water the temperature is 74low 83high looks like its being munched on. anyway heres some pics.
Rusty Trichome
03-29-2008, 02:57 PM
Will need more info if you want help.
Follow the troubleshooting link in my sig, and post the info requested, back here.
the image reaper
03-29-2008, 03:50 PM
'possibly' a calcium deficiency (definitely, IF you're using RO water) ... try a dose of 10ml/gal. of Cal-Mag+ ... just maybe :jointsmile:
Acezx
03-29-2008, 04:39 PM
-indoor or outdoor - indoor
-soil, soilless, or hydroponic - soil
-specific medium ???? havn't a clue
-Soil type/brand - miracle grow moisture lock
-Hydro/aero/soilless system type - none
-Anything you have added to the soil - After 3mo's of MG nutes added 1 dose of my own nutes but that was 2weeks ago.
-Soil pH - 6.6
-Water source - Faucet water thats sat for 3days
-Water pH - 7.2
-Age of plant - 3weeks in flower
-Type of fertilizer - none
-Rate of application
-Lighting source and distance from plant - 600watts all 10inches from plant
-Temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) - roughly 70's-82
-% Relative humidity - Used to be quite alot but I installed another fan back to normal
-Lighting schedule - 12/12
-Type of ventilation your room has - It's in a closet sooo maybe not much but I let airflow get to it and air it out.
Acezx
03-29-2008, 04:52 PM
heres some more that are rather...well dieing.
JeffersonBud
03-29-2008, 07:18 PM
You have a K deficiency. You need some Ferts for flower. i had that same problem. check out my thread "advice please" and you will see the same spots. that gray matter is the nutes being sucked out and put into the buds or top leaves. The plant is starved.
JeffersonBud
03-29-2008, 07:20 PM
also check during mid day. the leaves should be out flat and not droopy. droopy plants like yours needs ferts. Miracle grow is not a good medium for soil and lacks ferts needed. Go to your local Hydro store and pick some up. Any will do and if your on a budget, GH works well. Its easy but you need to know if you have hard water because there are too kinds.
Mr. Clandestine
03-29-2008, 08:12 PM
You have a K deficiency.
If you're just basing this on looks alone, I'd say it looks like he has a Phosphorus (P) deficiency, not a Potassium (K) deficiency. K deficiencies tend to show on the leaf edges first as scorching.
Ace - Here's a pretty good self-diagnosis page for you take a look at: Revised: The Complete Guide to Sick Plants,pH and Pest Troubles (http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=8778)
JeffersonBud
03-29-2008, 08:15 PM
Sorry my bad. thats what I meant. Just add some flower fets and it will clear that up. I had the same problem
Rusty Trichome
03-30-2008, 12:24 AM
How wet do you keep the soil? If not letting dry-out a bit, can cause root rot, and can look similar.
You'll need a bloom nutrient (fertilizer) lower in nitrogen, higher in phosphorous. There are plenty of three part fertilizer kits available. They are usually for Growth - Micronutes - Bloom. (one of the multi-part G-M-B nutrient systems, there's also 2 part, which come in an 'A' bottle, and a 'B' bottle.) Once you add the correct nutes, it should lower your water ph to within range.
Should try and find a small dedicated fan. Blowing fresh air across her helps strengthen stems, and provides vital fresh air.
Can you hold the back of your hand 10" below the light for a minute, without it getting too warm? I use a 400w, so don't know about 600's.
Acezx
03-30-2008, 12:36 AM
Now that you say that it is the bottom (half?) I should say that leaves are drooping the tops fine the top has no spots on it nor blops or anything and my nutes does have high N and low P(7%) and K(6%) anyway are their any products in particular or a certain nute combo im going for here a.k.a 10-7-9 or what not. thanks :rasta:
EDIT: Oh and yes my lighting is fine I don't even feel a tad of discomfort even when I lowered them.
Acezx
03-30-2008, 12:59 AM
another thing whats a good PH tester that won't break easily??
Acezx
03-30-2008, 01:12 AM
Now that you say that it is the bottom (half?) I should say that leaves are drooping the tops fine the top has no spots on it nor blops or anything and my nutes does have high N and low P(7%) and K(6%) anyway are their any products in particular or a certain nute combo im going for here a.k.a 10-7-9 or what not. thanks :rasta:
EDIT: Oh and yes my lighting is fine I don't even feel a tad of discomfort even when I lowered them.
alright so out of reading that whole article u posted ive found that its a P deficiency and first thing tommorow morning will be taken care of any ideas or hints of products to use until that time (I will view before I go shopping) will be appreciated.
Mr. Clandestine
03-30-2008, 01:41 AM
alright so out of reading that whole article u posted ive found that its a P deficiency and first thing tommorow morning will be taken care of any ideas or hints of products to use until that time (I will view before I go shopping) will be appreciated.
If you're able to make it to a hydro retailer, see if you can pick up a good organic bloom fertilizer like Rainbow Mix, or a high-Phosphorus bat guano. If you're only able to visit a retailer like HD or Lowe's, look for a fertilizer that's intended to be used on light flowers or vegetables. Nothing with a super heavy amounts of P, like 1-50-1. Instead look for something more balanced with a higher P/K to N ratio, like 1-7-5.
Organic bloom fertilizers are great for soil, so grab some of those if at all possible.
Take care. :jointsmile:
Acezx
03-30-2008, 02:07 AM
yeah don't got those in town (or im just a retard) I usually go to Lowe's, Walmart, or my mother(she used to grow) she gots all her left over stuff which im using. I'll update on what I get. By organic you mean those things you shove in the soil and its degradable??
Mr. Clandestine
03-30-2008, 06:12 AM
By organic you mean those things you shove in the soil and its degradable??
No, I'm definitely not referring to fertilizer sticks. Those are too strong for potted plants, and you have no control over the amount of fertilizer released and how long it will take to degrade. By organic I just mean types of fertilizers that are all natural, and don't contain heavy metals and synthetic chemicals. Guano, blood/bone meal, worm castings, fish emulsion, etc., are all examples of organic fertilizers. Miracle Grow, Schultz, and the like are examples of chemical fertilizers.
Organic grows have become real popular, and many growers claim that the taste and burn of the final product is smoother and more flavorful than buds grown with heavy chemicals. If you can only get your hands on chemical fertilizers, make sure to flush well before harvest or you might end up with a harsh chemical aftertaste.
TomStoner
03-30-2008, 07:37 AM
-Soil pH - 6.6
-Water source - Faucet water thats sat for 3days
-Water pH - 7.2What is the PH of the run-off, a common cause of Phosphorus (P) deficiency is incorrect PH.
:cool:
PamStoner
03-30-2008, 07:58 AM
One thing you should not forget is that you are using a soil that already has slow release ferts in it. Anything you add could knock everything out of balance.
JeffersonBud
03-30-2008, 09:33 AM
i got a 3 in 1 ph/ec/tds meter by Milwaukee for $140 shipped on ebay with a weeks worth of solution.
organick
03-30-2008, 01:00 PM
First off, this grow do the best you can and good luck!
Before your next grow READ about organic growing Organic Gardener, Encyclopedia of organic gardenig, Web stuff that is real not commercial BS.
Jesus told me to love all human beings but YOUR SOIL SUCKS.
Next Grow: Whitny farms potting siol, a pinch of dolomite lime (know the lime, love the lime, but not too much), and peirlite one to one with the potting soil.
Chemical Fertilizers are for those children of God who are misinfromed, stupid, ingnorant or evil.
Find a garden center that has organic "add amends" and boxed organic fertilizer if not a hydro store, those other stores (Wall-mart, Lowes) are for those mentioned above.
Soil fungi (Mycilin or somthing like that) are your best friends adding them to your soil won't get you laid but at least your dirt will be fertile.
Peace out:rastasmoke:
Rusty Trichome
03-30-2008, 01:32 PM
First off, this grow do the best you can and good luck!
Before your next grow READ about organic growing Organic Gardener, Encyclopedia of organic gardenig, Web stuff that is real not commercial BS.
Jesus told me to love all human beings but YOUR SOIL SUCKS.
Chemical Fertilizers are for those children of God who are misinfromed, stupid, ingnorant or evil.
Soil fungi (Mycilin or somthing like that) are your best friends adding them to your soil won't get you laid but at least your dirt will be fertile.
Peace out:rastasmoke:
:wtf: If you are attempting to post valid info, it would help if you did some more reading, yourself.
The soil isn't the best choice, but will and does work. I started-out using MG soils many years ago, (1996-1997) before all these slick-exotic blends and ammendments came along. Once you get used to adjusting you nute ratios to suit the MG mix, you're good to go.
As a blanket statement, those children of God who consider people "misinfromed, stupid, ingnorant or evil" because of chemical usage on their grow, are "misinfromed, stupid, ingnorant or evil".
If you are reffering to mychorrizae fungi, then yes, they are a benefit. If you don't know the name of a product, and are too lazy to look it up yourself, then it's likely best, not to act like you know what you are talking about.
May God have mercy on your grow.
Acezx
03-30-2008, 05:31 PM
Thanks Rusty and all others (mostly rusty) bought ozi magic today from the store havn't tried it yet waiting for tommorow letting it dry then im gonna flush it one more time before I add any other nutes make sure shes starving then we'll see how she reacts to her new food, any insane mixes I might want to give a go for fertilizer?
EDIT: I'll ph test the run-off whenever I find one =/.
JeffersonBud
03-30-2008, 07:24 PM
First off start slow. those thing are very hungry. you don't want to shock them and burn them with a ton of ferts right away. less is more. I think you should start with that base flower fert and later on start mixing an add on to the bloom. mix ferts at 20% of what the bottle says for early flower growth and increase as needed. they should blow up
Acezx
03-31-2008, 05:53 PM
Alright I got another problem I got these things that keep coming up on my plant look alot like webs or some kind of thing like that anyway.....pics - first is the top of my plant second is those weird web-like things like its not really web but..well hell I don't know..:wtf:
Mr. Clandestine
03-31-2008, 08:39 PM
I'm not able to tell by looking at your pictures, but you should get a magnifying glass and take a look at the undersides of the leaves, stems, etc., and look for signs of spider mites. They're tiny, so it helps to have a light directly behind the leaf in question. If you see little crab-like creatures crawling around, and more webbing, then you'll need to treat for mites. Just use the search feature up top and you'll find lots of threads on the topic. The FAQs (http://cannabis.com/growing/index.html) are another good place to find troubleshooting tips and diagnosis.
Also, in the future, you'll want to keep the lights as close to the plant as possible without causing it stress. How close depends on your type of light - fluorescents can be kept closer to the plant than HIDs, for example. That ought to help the plants from stretching quite so much.
Acezx
03-31-2008, 11:05 PM
Yeah when I transplanted and added new light they shot up overnight and while I was at work trying to get the little ones not to stretch.
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