Obamas Rev. Wright Slams Italians

[Psycho4Bud]

The irrepressible Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is at it again, this time taking aim at Italians -- expounding a two millenium grudge against the sons and daughters of Rome -- and their (allegedly) breath-altering prediliction for scampi and pesto.

From the Wright-written eulogy for scholar Asa Hilliard in the Dec. 2007 edition of the Trumpet magazine: "(Jesus') enemies had their opinion about Him... The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans."

After calling Jesus's crucifixion "a public lynching Italian style" executed in "Apartheid Rome," he goes on to claim that white supremicists run the U.S. government:

"The government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the Klan, white supremacy is clearly in charge, but Asa, like Jesus, refused to be defined by an oppressive government because Asa got his identity from an Omnipotent God."

All this was written before his friend and former parishoner vaulted to the front of the Democratic pack -- and before Obama denounced his previous comments on race, AIDS, etc.
Rev. Wright's Italian Job (Hold the Garlic) (Spin Cycle) (http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/2008/03/rev_wrights_italian_job_hold_t.html)

And this is where Obama took his children to learn of the teachings of God? Kind of shows a lack of judgement or brains!

Have a good one!:s4:

[Rusty Trichome]

Also shows a massive lack of foresight by Obama, and ALL of his peeps.
Crap...fell asleep listening to Obama drone-on about the economy. Oh well, likely not important nor insightful.

A couple of months ago, I was trying to read-up on Wright and his church, but started running into some minor problems. Every time I went back to the website of Trinity United Church of Christ, to read about their charities, their doctrine, the subjects covered in their monthly rag, 'The Trumpet' the website had changed...
Trinity United Church of Christ (http://www.tucc.org/home.htm)

They peeled all links to the Trumpet Mag ...(at the time, the Trumpet's lead story was about the scumbag, Louis Farrakhan and rev. Wright giving him a lifetime acheivement award) from the website, but it was still online. They had removed the great-big photo of Farrakhan, replacing it with generic text. Now Wright is still listed as the pastor, and I could find no links to their controversial rag, the Trumpet. They've taken it off the web, (Sold the address, changed it to a commercial bookstore) But there are traces of it...
the trumpet mag - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=the+trumpet+mag&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIC)
Subtrifuge and deniability, and now, hiding in the shadows after his treasonous/blasphemous outbursts.

Yup, that's the man I want to be my family's spiritual advisor, my beacon of light, the healer of my soul...my mentor and his rogue church.

Anyway, what do you want to bet that Wright's church gets even bigger, with the reperationists and other biggot's of color? Perhaps a name change to oh...I don't know...perhaps the
Church of Reperationists And Panthers. (CRAP)

[dragonrider]

Don't be too quick to vilifiy Rev Wright and people like Farrakhan guys --- McCain will be cozying up to them soon enough. He used to lump Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson together with Farrakhan as, in his words, "agents of intolerance." Now he is best buds with Jerry and Pat! I doubt he wants to be seen favoring only white agents of intolerance. If he wants to broaden is base, he should embrace some black agents of intolerance too. I'm sure he will, too. Right now he is savoring the sweet sweet taste of Jerry and Pat's intolerant self-righteous white asses on his lips, but once you taste black, you'll never go back!

[Rusty Trichome]

If he wants to broaden is base, he should embrace some black agents of intolerance too. I'm sure he will, too. Right now he is savoring the sweet sweet taste of Jerry and Pat's intolerant self-righteous white asses on his lips, but once you taste black, you'll never go back!

Curious where those facts came from. Please, by all means...educate me. Links would be fine, but fact-based comments always welcome. Last I heard, Robertson was courting Giuliani, but no word after that. Possibility I'm wrong, but you provided no proof, so am still in doubt.

As far as the Fallwell connection, didn't they politically reconcile in 2006 or so? Regardless, Whom else would the Christian Conservatives back...Obama?. There's only one conservative candidate.

I'm kinda doubting McCain will be after the Farrakhan/Wright alliance. McCain's got better judgement than Obama, and the philosophies of both "reverends" exclude an alliance.

That old race-baiting slogan "once you go black, you never go back" is laughable, reverse-racist and false. Blacks have no more to offer to me, my family or society...than any other race. Each, having their fair share of positives and negatives. To think that because of the color of ones skin, any one race of people is better than another is fallacious.

[dragonrider]

Before I get any crap about this, I know Jerry Falwell is dead. It's not right to speak ill of the dead, but sometims I wonder if he's sitting with Jesus right now, or if he's broiling in some circle of hell reserved for hypocrits. Not for me to judge, of course. The Christian thing to do is to forgive gross bigotry and hypocrisy such as this garbage Jerry and Pat discussed two days after 9/11:


JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system.

If you blame the ACLU and the abortionists and the gays and the feminists for something horrible, then people might back away for awhile, but as long as you've got a fat political base, sooner or later someone like McCain will forgive and forget and come to lick your feet. Good job McCain, very Chirstian of you to forgive like that!

But if you blame whites or American society in general for any kind of problems, you are unforgivable. Even Jesus probably wouldn't forgive that kind of thing! Ask Pat Robertson if that kind of thing is forgivable. Jesus talks to him personally all the time and will get a quick answer back to us right away.

The differrence between McCain and Obama on this is that Obama has denounced the preachings of Wright, while McCain is getting tighter with Robertson. McCain went from calling Robertson an "agent of intolerance" to disavowing that statement and cozying up with him. Maybe he is just cold at night and needs a "strange bedfellow," but no hanky-panky, boys, or you'll bring the wrath of God down on us!

McCain had it right the first time --- these assclowns are agents of intolerance. To bad he had to sell out his own principles.

[Rusty Trichome]

If I'm not mistaken, there is a big difference between the conservative morals taken out of the bible, and a twisted view of current racism taken out of ones ass.

For years, Fallwell had said controversial things. Controversial to those that are gay, are lesbian, are an abortionist. I'm not a politician, but I don't believe for a second that the ACLU has MY liberties in mind, so their thoughts on the matter of morals and bible teachings are irrelevant.

You are, of course, mixing apples and oranges. Were it to be discovered that I belonged to the KKK for 20 years, and it was about to cost me that cushy job, you bet your ass I'd denounce the KKK all the way to the White House.
Robertson takes direct quotes from the bible to point-out the incestuous (Improperly intimate or interconnected) debauchery (extreme indulgence in sensuality) of the groups supporting progressive lifestyles, abortionists and NAMBLA members. (give it a Google) Granted he takes a more conservative stance, and often exaggerates to prove his points more than most TV evangelists, but at least the core message and intent, is from the bible.

If you can't discern the difference between someone truly representing the spirit of the bible, with a black seperatist, anti-american rant, then likely, you telling us what or whom you believe Jesus would forgive is either fallacious or uninformed. (unless you could provide a quote regerding this from Jesus himself)

[medicinal]

Geeze, thumpers. They're all insane. Fallwell, Robertson, Wright, and anyone else that sees the narrow path as salvation or "Hell" is fucking insane. Be kind to your fellow man and be tolerant. "Judge not lest ye be judged'. If God is benevolent, then all is forgiven. Pray to your God and let no man see. The righteous Man goes into the closet to pray. Hey, live and let live.

[Psycho4Bud]

The ACLU? LMAO!!!!!!! Another Dem group that lost their way to the far left.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzbHV3DepJI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SLF_4R0dYA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kcnK9VvRq0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeX48vwvKw0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv-HNakadIw&feature=related

I would imagine Obama is proud of these people too.:rolleyes:

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

I find all forms of bigotry despicable, whether they come from the Bible or from out of someone's ass. I'd say McCain was right to throw Robertson and Falwell in with Farrakhan, and I'll throw Wright in with them too. They've all done some good, and they've also all said things that are mind-blowingly bigotted. I have trouble getting past the BS of any of these bigots.

The difference I was making was between Obama on one hand who said he disagrees with the things Wright says, but won't reject someone who is like family. Versus McCain on the other hand who has denounced Robertson in the past but is now unwilling to stand by those criticisms. I don't think Obama gains much by refusing to reject Wright --- obviously it costs him something politcally. So I'm inclined to believe he is remaining loyal to a friend who he disagrees with, even though it hurts him politically. Whereas I don't think McCain actually agrees with or likes Robertson at all --- he's moved toward the bigotted assclown for political gain. So it seems to me Obama is being loyal to a freind, even though it hurts him, while McCain is being hypocritical and selling out his principles for political gain.

[Psycho4Bud]

So dragonrider, how many times did McCain take his small children into church to listen to hate speeches? BIG difference!

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

I'm not a politician, but I don't believe for a second that the ACLU has MY liberties in mind, so their thoughts on the matter of morals and bible teachings are irrelevant.

The ACLU takes on a lot of controversial an unpopular legal battles, but I do think they actually have YOUR civil liberties in mind along with everyone elses, including the dirtbags they often defend. Regardless of what you think of their work, I think blaming them for bringing God's wrath down on us in the form of 9/11, is stupid. Talk about pulling an idea out of your ass!


If you can't discern the difference between someone truly representing the spirit of the bible, with a black seperatist, anti-american rant, then likely, you telling us what or whom you believe Jesus would forgive is either fallacious or uninformed. (unless you could provide a quote regerding this from Jesus himself)

Well, like I said before, I don't presume to make those kinds of judgements, and I can't provide a quote from Jesus himself. For that, we need Pat Robertson. He talks to Jesus personally all the time, and he can tell us exactly what Jesus has to say on just about any current event! Pat Robertson can tell us what Jesus forgives and what he doesn't. He can probably even tell us how to vote in order to prevent Jesus from sending more terrorits to punish us!

[Rusty Trichome]

The difference I was making was between Obama on one hand who said he disagrees with the things Wright says, but won't reject someone who is like family.

Ya see...this is the sticking point. I don't believe a man goes to a church for 20 years, and all of a sudden, is totally blindsided by the rev. Wright's comments. That is the man Wright is. Has been shown thru interviews, articles, videos, and his associations with Nation of Islam.
Obama accepted this mans rhetoric, his "theology", the black liberation philosophy, and likely his politicaly skewed views on the American people. Period. I don't really think the church will change it's philosophy and the tennants of it's church, nor do I believe, that thru osmosis, Obama has seen the light, and changes his entire view of Wright. Wright is, and always will be, an inconvenient excuse for Obama's failures in the future.

I do believe that Obama would still be there, going to the same church, same pastor at the helm spouting his hate and insecurities, were he not running for president. He has thrown his "uncle" under the bus at the first sign of trouble.

Lets see...so far, under that same bus are Rev. Wright, Obama's grandmother, America and white prople as a whole. Did I miss anyone?

By the time November rolls around, there's going to be more folks under his bus, than on it. (and yet those under the bus will at least be UNITED, lol)

[yokinazu]

umm i cant remember wich one it was but one of them holy rolin bible thumpin bigots did say that it was god punishing the country for our tolorance of gays.

that bein said i am in noway defending wright he is just as much a racial bigot as david duke. and so far i dont think the "crazy uncle thing" is helpin obamas cause. when my crazy uncle would start to spout off at the dinner table on thankgiving some one would tell him to shut the fuck up and keep his opinions to homself

as the old saying goes:
" an open mouth attracts closed fists"
or
" an open mouth has broken many noses"

take your pick

[Clever85]

You are all criticizing the reverend for being so outspoken about the many issues he brings up, but you have all yet to interpret or analyze what he has been talking about. Even worse, you are all using the "evil" reverend to judge Obama. Might as well persecute all the Catholics because of all the sex scandals a few years back. It makes no sense!

The reverend brings up many great points and issues that are not talked about and/or ignored. The reality of today is that the system, the form of government that is set up, exists to the benefit of white people. Non-white people are not benefitting as much as white people. There are different degrees and exceptions that exist, but there is no denying that race still plays a factor in today's world. You have a bunch of rich Latin@s, Blacks, Asians, etc. but the reality is that these are the very few that have achieved 'success'. Also, these are not the wealthy, the wealthy remain overwhelmingly white. Racism may not be explicit, but it still exists; it is mostly institutionalized.

This is all due to the history that you may have learned in school. It extends way back to the founding of this country. Slavery was a reality. These supremacist roots do not just disappear, it takes a long process. The United States was still segregated up until the 1950's! That's a few hundred year that went by before desegregation happened. Struggles continued into the 1960's era, into the 1970's and even into the 1980's although this was the era in which a lot of these movements were killed. Now, if you think about the history of the United States, how is the world going to be all peachy and perfect today. It's only been a few decades since segregation, ONE consequence of slavery.

Now, looking at statistics you can see that non-white people are still disproportionately poor, have bad schools, live in bad areas, have many health problems as a result of the shitty places they live, don't have access to good foods, healthcare, are subject to more police brutality, are not being represented in the government, etc. A perfect example is everything that happened with Hurricane Katrina. Like I said, this is not to say that a heavy contrast exists for between all white people and non-white people, there are varying levels. These things change according to the race, class, gender, citizenship, etc. For example, you can't compare the experience of a refugee from El Salvador who also happens to indigenous to the experience of a Black middle class man living in Ladera Heights. Both are non-white, but they obviously have very different experiences. Despite these differences, they are still subject to the same form of government in these United States that assumes equality between the two.

Back to the beginning, white people are benefiting the most. This is not to say that they are the only ones benefiting or that all white people are benefiting. There are still poor white people. As a matter of fact, they are the majority of poor people if looking at sheer numbers. Proportionately though, the numbers are not comparable to those of non-whites. This is because white is still seen as better. Look at the English-only movement, the euro-centric history being taught in schools, the stereotypes that exist, the media, the holidays being celebrated, etc. Because of this, white people enjoy priviliges. A great example someone raised in a conversation to me is in saying how people of color feel a sense of responsibility to represent their community, not only internally but because of society overall. For example, when a Latin@ goes to college and goes on with their lives in business and makes money and moves to the suburbs and doesn't look back they are considered a sellout. They are supposed to help their communities, it is their responsibility according to the Latin@ community. The white community is not subject to this to the same degree, if at all. They can go on and live their independent lives without having to worry about helping out the white race.

When the reverend says white supremacy he refers to all these ideas. It is not the same as him saying that white people are evil. It is him acknowledging the reality that white people still share privileges that non-whites are not entitled to at all or as much. He was very outspoken and explicit, but you have to think about why that is? Is it nonsense or is there a reason for his "hate"? Think about Malcolm X, everything he said; he even used "white devil" in place of white people. Conditions were very fucked up in his time and more explicit so he said it with reason, not just to be hateful. The reverend recognizes all the injustices that exist today and is obviously angered by everything. It is his anger for his experiences and his life, not his anger for white people.

I hope I was able to show that a more critical look has to be taken when approaching the issue of race. This is what Barack Obama was saying in his speech. I am not a Obama/Hillary/McCain fanatic so I am not writing this with the purpose of supporting Obama. There is still a lot of information I need to and want to know about all these candidates before claiming to be one of their supporters. Also, I am not a racist. Those views I have mentioned are views I hold and believe, but it is not everything I believe. The issues are way more complex so my views and beliefs are way more complex as well. I am simply tired of simplistic views on race and the way they are used to brainwash or manipulate people in this country.

-Clever85

[dragonrider]

Obama accepted this mans rhetoric, his "theology", the black liberation philosophy, and likely his politicaly skewed views on the American people. Period.

I think you are going to have trouble showing that he "accepted" these beliefs. He says he doesn't accept these beliefs, and you say he does --- who should I believe? I know from my own experience that I went to a mainstream church for years and never really "accepted" the beliefs. My dad has gone to church for decades, and I'm pretty sure he isn't really a believing Christian. He likes the people, and the activities are fun, and the charity is worthwhile, but I don't think the really BELIEVES. People go to churches for all kinds of reasons other thatn to "drink the kool-aid." I was once encouraged to go to a church to meet women!



I do believe that Obama would still be there, going to the same church, same pastor at the helm spouting his hate and insecurities, were he not running for president.

He is still going there, isn't he? The pastor retired on his own some time back.


He has thrown his "uncle" under the bus at the first sign of trouble.

Now you've got me confused. I thought this whole ruckus was because he REFUSED to throw his friend under the bus. I thought that is what everyone was saying he should do, reject Wright, and his problem was that he wouldn't. Are people upset becasue he did reject Wright or he didn't? I'm pretty sure you've got this backwards.

[dragonrider]

The issues are way more complex so my views and beliefs are way more complex as well. I am simply tired of simplistic views on race and the way they are used to brainwash or manipulate people in this country.

I'm glad there is someone else on these boards that can have a more complex view on things. These are complicated issues, and you can see that as soon as someone like Obama starts to explain a more nuanced take on the issue, people pounce on the first thing they can find and apply their simple-minded, one-dimensional views to it. Issues of race in this country are not black and white. (Ha ha, made a pun!) There are a lot of gray areas. There is a lot of resentment on both sides, and mostly people do not talk about it for fear of being labeled. Try to bring up a point on either side and immediatley you have someone yelling, "You're a racist!" or "You're a REVERSE racist!" We won't get anywhere like this.

[thcbongman]

Oo Dragonrider you sure love those puns, can't wait until the day you bust out a bilingual pun!

[thcbongman]

You are all criticizing the reverend for being so outspoken about the many issues he brings up, but you have all yet to interpret or analyze what he has been talking about. Even worse, you are all using the "evil" reverend to judge Obama. Might as well persecute all the Catholics because of all the sex scandals a few years back. It makes no sense!

The reverend brings up many great points and issues that are not talked about and/or ignored. The reality of today is that the system, the form of government that is set up, exists to the benefit of white people. Non-white people are not benefitting as much as white people. There are different degrees and exceptions that exist, but there is no denying that race still plays a factor in today's world. You have a bunch of rich Latin@s, Blacks, Asians, etc. but the reality is that these are the very few that have achieved 'success'. Also, these are not the wealthy, the wealthy remain overwhelmingly white. Racism may not be explicit, but it still exists; it is mostly institutionalized.

This is all due to the history that you may have learned in school. It extends way back to the founding of this country. Slavery was a reality. These supremacist roots do not just disappear, it takes a long process. The United States was still segregated up until the 1950's! That's a few hundred year that went by before desegregation happened. Struggles continued into the 1960's era, into the 1970's and even into the 1980's although this was the era in which a lot of these movements were killed. Now, if you think about the history of the United States, how is the world going to be all peachy and perfect today. It's only been a few decades since segregation, ONE consequence of slavery.

Now, looking at statistics you can see that non-white people are still disproportionately poor, have bad schools, live in bad areas, have many health problems as a result of the shitty places they live, don't have access to good foods, healthcare, are subject to more police brutality, are not being represented in the government, etc. A perfect example is everything that happened with Hurricane Katrina. Like I said, this is not to say that a heavy contrast exists for between all white people and non-white people, there are varying levels. These things change according to the race, class, gender, citizenship, etc. For example, you can't compare the experience of a refugee from El Salvador who also happens to indigenous to the experience of a Black middle class man living in Ladera Heights. Both are non-white, but they obviously have very different experiences. Despite these differences, they are still subject to the same form of government in these United States that assumes equality between the two.

Back to the beginning, white people are benefiting the most. This is not to say that they are the only ones benefiting or that all white people are benefiting. There are still poor white people. As a matter of fact, they are the majority of poor people if looking at sheer numbers. Proportionately though, the numbers are not comparable to those of non-whites. This is because white is still seen as better. Look at the English-only movement, the euro-centric history being taught in schools, the stereotypes that exist, the media, the holidays being celebrated, etc. Because of this, white people enjoy priviliges. A great example someone raised in a conversation to me is in saying how people of color feel a sense of responsibility to represent their community, not only internally but because of society overall. For example, when a Latin@ goes to college and goes on with their lives in business and makes money and moves to the suburbs and doesn't look back they are considered a sellout. They are supposed to help their communities, it is their responsibility according to the Latin@ community. The white community is not subject to this to the same degree, if at all. They can go on and live their independent lives without having to worry about helping out the white race.

When the reverend says white supremacy he refers to all these ideas. It is not the same as him saying that white people are evil. It is him acknowledging the reality that white people still share privileges that non-whites are not entitled to at all or as much. He was very outspoken and explicit, but you have to think about why that is? Is it nonsense or is there a reason for his "hate"? Think about Malcolm X, everything he said; he even used "white devil" in place of white people. Conditions were very fucked up in his time and more explicit so he said it with reason, not just to be hateful. The reverend recognizes all the injustices that exist today and is obviously angered by everything. It is his anger for his experiences and his life, not his anger for white people.

I hope I was able to show that a more critical look has to be taken when approaching the issue of race. This is what Barack Obama was saying in his speech. I am not a Obama/Hillary/McCain fanatic so I am not writing this with the purpose of supporting Obama. There is still a lot of information I need to and want to know about all these candidates before claiming to be one of their supporters. Also, I am not a racist. Those views I have mentioned are views I hold and believe, but it is not everything I believe. The issues are way more complex so my views and beliefs are way more complex as well. I am simply tired of simplistic views on race and the way they are used to brainwash or manipulate people in this country.

-Clever85

I'll start to say this is one of the best posts I ever seen on cannabis.com with 1 attempt. Beautiful execution.

However I'll have to bring up despite the institutionalized racism in this country, it has come along way since the 1950s. America has been excellent in integrating non-whites in society and tearing down the barriers of entry to opportunity. However I agree, we still have a ways to go. Prejudice still exists whether we like to think about it or not and the great thing about Rev. Wright it opens the issue of race again because it's progress needs to be evaluated. Racism simply does not end. It simply shifts form.

Though instiutionalized racism in this country is less apparent than in countries in Europe. In some european countries like France, arabs are denied lucrative forms of employment simply because of race. This does not occur as frequently in America.

The ideas of racism will never go away, but continually debated with better arguments will only help dampen and continue to open other people's minds to race and slowly change the institution. The people that grew up in the 1950s will die one day.

[Mr. Clandestine]

FUCK this renegade 'reverend', and his xenophobic - black supremacist drivel. And fuck Obama for willingly defending it for so long...:mad:

[dragonrider]

FUCK this renegade 'reverend', and his xenophobic - black supremacist drivel. And fuck Obama for willingly defending it for so long...:mad:

So much anger, Clandestine! Even Pat Robertson would not put it with such bile!

[Mr. Clandestine]

So much anger, Clandestine! Even Pat Robertson would not put it with such bile!

Today was a particularly aggravating day, this story only added to it. I suppose I could have reacted a little better than I did, but I didn't. Too bad we can't edit posts. I still stand by my statement, only with other less colorful expletives in place of the F-bomb, such as; "damn", "curse", "screw", "blast", "angrily waves fist at", and so on.

Wright isn't even worthy of the "assclown" designation, he's lower than that. Now that's saying something.

[FeedmeWeed]

congrats psyco, you have successfully managed to extract random excerpts and completely take them out of context

well done!

[Mr. Clandestine]

congrats psyco, you have successfully managed to extract random excerpts and completely take them out of context

well done!

Which part of "looking down their garlic noses" was taken out of context? This is pretty damn insulting to say of anyone with an Italian heritage. Would it be different listening to a white preacher make similar generalizations about the noses of blacks? I seem to think so. This 'reverend' isn't exempt from being accused of hate speech just because he's black and feels he's being oppressed by the imaginary 'evil, white America'. Such oppression... I'll bet after his 'sermons', he hops in his expensive car and drives to his lavish house out in the hills.

For Obama to willingly accept this kind of hate speech for so long, and not get up and find another church much sooner, really says something about his character.

(*Angrily waves fist at both Obama and Jeremiah Wright* :S4:)

[FeedmeWeed]

For Obama to willingly accept this kind of hate speech for so long, and not get up and find another church much sooner, really says something about his character.

dude, the guy is running for president, dont you think he has priorities than "finding a new church" seriously

[Mr. Clandestine]

dude, the guy is running for president, dont you think he has priorities than "finding a new church" seriously

Was he running for President TWENTY years ago? Has he been running for President every Sunday since he began attending that church? He's had plenty of chances, but he willingly stayed loyal and true to his mentor for that entire time. Why? If my preacher were demonizing another race, or this country, or praising terrorists, I think I'd find it necessary to find another church, and quick.

Think of how many fools have been brainwashed into believing the disgusting words of this bigot. Obama is apparently one of those fools. Otherwise, he wouldn't have stayed at that church. For him to say he's selective over which bits of hateful rhetoric he chooses to follow is really a ridiculous statement, and shows his true character.

[FeedmeWeed]

If my preacher were demonizing another race, or this country, or praising terrorists, I think I'd find it necessary to find another church, and quick.


the Church has been doing this for a thousand years

where you been?

[Psycho4Bud]

congrats psyco, you have successfully managed to extract random excerpts and completely take them out of context

well done!


dude, the guy is running for president, dont you think he has priorities than "finding a new church" seriously

Considering you couldn't hold your water in another thread this is kind of pointless but heres a link maybe you should read.
Obama would have left if Wright stayed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_el_pr/obama_wright)

Have a good one!:s4: