The Next Prediction from Nostradamus?

[Readytoride08]

"From greater Arabi will come a great master of Muhhumad!He will enter Europe in a blue turbin!"Alot of pepole is thinking this is Iran's leader BUT this says 'a great master of Muhhumad'and he dosen't seem like the anti-christ to me!And I found out that Islam is waiting on there leader for 7 years to come!Also I found out Rev.Abums was a diplomat to Saudi Arabi during Clintons?Admminastration and Abums loves blue.My friend thinks greater Arabi might be America becuase the was he said 'hister' in his Qaudrians!What do you guys think?

[Coelho]

Can you post his original verses? Or at least in which Century and quadre is it?

[dragonrider]

I do not put much stock in the predictions of Nastydumbass.

[Coelho]

Well... as i described in another thread, most predictions made by just reading one or two verses of his centuries are actually nonsense, cause there is a right way to interpret Nostradamus.
But the predictions made using this right way, which is very complex BTW, are incredibly accurate, its even scary. Thats why i asked the original verses.

[dragonrider]

Well... as i described in another thread, most predictions made by just reading one or two verses of his centuries are actually nonsense, cause there is a right way to interpret Nostradamus.
But the predictions made using this right way, which is very complex BTW, are incredibly accurate, its even scary. Thats why i asked the original verses.

Hopefully ReadyToRide will provide the info you need to apply your method. And I would be intereted to hear your analysis.

I always felt that the predictions were vague enough and used so many non-specific symbols that that you could fit them to almost any current event. For example, ReadyToRide is asking about the possibility that "Master of Muhamad" means this former diplomat to Saudi Arabia, "Greater Arabi" means America, and "wearing a blue turban" means he likes the color blue.

So he is asking if "From greater Arabi will come a great master of Muhhumad!He will enter Europe in a blue turbin!" means "From America will come a former diplomat to Saudi Arabia who likes the color blue." If the interpretations can be that loose, you can fit them to almost anyone.

[killerweed420]

I've read Nostradus's quatrains. There's nothing that relates to future events. Its like reading the Revelations of John in the bible. Everything is so vague it could mean anything.

[Coelho]

I've read Nostradus's quatrains. There's nothing that relates to future events. Its like reading the Revelations of John in the bible. Everything is so vague it could mean anything.

Exactly... when read as it is, verse after verse, its actually meaningless.
To be rightly interpreted, the verses must first be translated word by word from french (the original language) to latin, and then translated from latin.
Also, there is a right sequence to read the verses. They must not be read one after another, but following a definite order, like Century VI verse 98, then Century IV verse 82, then Century III verse 84, etc. The order which determines which verse follows which is calculated by complicated means (which were not detailed enough in the book i read)
So, unless the predictions be made using the verses interpreted this way, they are meaningless.

And Dragonrider, i dont know how to interpret Nostradamus. I only know how NOT to do it... which is just reading the verses one after another.

[Readytoride08]

I'll post it when he gets off,he has the book I want it in coorect form to you guys.

I was thinking it couldmean America begin has Hitler was hister.But Greater Arabi could be were this man comes from.Just wonderin what you guys tought on it but I will post it when he gets off.It's always good to consider every aspect of the prediction!My buddy is from England so he told me how to read it,it's odd.

[psychocat]

Hopefully ReadyToRide will provide the info you need to apply your method. And I would be intereted to hear your analysis.

I always felt that the predictions were vague enough and used so many non-specific symbols that that you could fit them to almost any current event. For example, ReadyToRide is asking about the possibility that "Master of Muhamad" means this former diplomat to Saudi Arabia, "Greater Arabi" means America, and "wearing a blue turban" means he likes the color blue.

So he is asking if "From greater Arabi will come a great master of Muhhumad!He will enter Europe in a blue turbin!" means "From America will come a former diplomat to Saudi Arabia who likes the color blue." If the interpretations can be that loose, you can fit them to almost anyone.

I have to agree , I am always sceptical about "predictions".

[Coelho]

Well... i just noticed a quick way to know if any book containing the Nostradamus profecies is reliable or not.
Like said in Piobbs book (Le secret de Nostradamus et de ses célèbres prophéties du XVIe) about it, to be rightly interpreted, the text in french (its original) must be translated word by word to latin, in a way that every verse always has six words (if needed, words must be broken or joined), and then the resulting latin sentence must be translated to any desired language.
So, in the Century I quatrain 6, we read (in english)

"The eye of Ravenna will be forsaken"

But it was just translated directly from french, and it makes not much sense. But if we do the above mentioned process and translate the original french to latin, word by word, we get:

"Oculus de ravena erit destitutus"

It only has five words. It is solved noting that ravena is the misleading translation of the latin "re vana", so the sentence becomes:

"Oculus de re vana erit destitutus"

Which, in latin means "The sight will be fooled by the illusion", which makes far more sense.

Another example can be found in the Pressages (which are other verses which complete the centuries and has the key for its interpretation). The quatrain 137 of it says something like:

"The death comes near, kingly gift and legacy"

Which also doesnt make much sense. The word by word translation from french to latin is:

"Adhuc mors appropinquat, donum regale legatumque"

Which already has six words. Translating it from latin to english, it becomes:

"The death comes near, this is my kingly gift and testament"

And in the next verses, he explains the rest of the key to discover the interpretation of his "testament", his profecies.

So, to find if any book containing the Nostradamus centuries is reliable or not, just look at the Century I quatrain 6. If it say "The eye of Ravenna will be forsaken", its unreliable, cause it wasnt translated rightly. But if it say somewhat like "The sight will be fooled by the illusion", it is reliable (or at least was translated rightly).

[killerweed420]

Exactly... when read as it is, verse after verse, its actually meaningless.
To be rightly interpreted, the verses must first be translated word by word from french (the original language) to latin, and then translated from latin.
Also, there is a right sequence to read the verses. They must not be read one after another, but following a definite order, like Century VI verse 98, then Century IV verse 82, then Century III verse 84, etc. The order which determines which verse follows which is calculated by complicated means (which were not detailed enough in the book i read)
So, unless the predictions be made using the verses interpreted this way, they are meaningless.

And Dragonrider, i dont know how to interpret Nostradamus. I only know how NOT to do it... which is just reading the verses one after another.

Sounds more like the guy that wrote that bible code program. If you look at a book enough different ways you're bound to find words in different orders that might mean something.

[Readytoride08]

Sorry for the delay.I seen him yesterday at a party he told it was the way he remembered it saying so I startin tryin to find the Quadtrian or whatever it is this morning and I have to buy the book of Nostraduamus to find it!I believe it predicts stuff all the way past 2012.

[Delta9 UK]

Thanks Coelho - my Nostradamus book is wrong :thumbsup:

Even in my version the author admits that because of translation there is far too much to work out.

Makes you wonder...
If you wrote a book predicting / about the future though, don't you think you would write it in an "accessible format" ? Something anyone could decipher - surely this would be important otherwise the book is rendered useless.

I know he was famous in his own time for predictions but I haven't had access to the "true translation" of his Quantrains so I don't know what you know - if you know what I mean :stoned:

Care to share any of the "good bits" from the book? Anything that you thought was really significant? I always like to hear how his works are interpreted.

The book I have is called :
The Prophecies of Nostradamus
Author Erika Cheetham
First ublished 1973

[Coelho]

Thanks Coelho - my Nostradamus book is wrong :thumbsup:

Even in my version the author admits that because of translation there is far too much to work out.

Well... now you can rest assured, knowing that most catastrophes described in your book probably wont ever happen...


Makes you wonder...
If you wrote a book predicting / about the future though, don't you think you would write it in an "accessible format" ? Something anyone could decipher - surely this would be important otherwise the book is rendered useless.

Well... the book i read explains that Nostradamus wished only people with enough knowledge were able to understand him. His predictions were terrible, and only prepared people would stand to know such things. Now that i understand a bit of it, and suspect a bit too, i see why it had to be this way.
Also, by writing it in such codified way, he ensured that nobody would falsify it, as nobody knew the way to codify the predictions to fit in his scheme of writing. So their predictions come to us, unaletered, centuries after him.


I know he was famous in his own time for predictions but I haven't had access to the "true translation" of his Quantrains so I don't know what you know - if you know what I mean :stoned:

Care to share any of the "good bits" from the book? Anything that you thought was really significant? I always like to hear how his works are interpreted.

Well... unfortunately the book i have about it (a portuguese verion of Pierre Piobb - Le secret de Nostradamus et de ses célèbres prophéties du XVIe) is not a complete translation, or even an incomplete one. It just explains the basics of Nostradamus coding system, and has only a few rightly translated verses to explain how it works.
I strongly suggest you to find this book. Its very interesting, even if a bit confusing. Anyway, i can give some "good bits".

He explains that the preface to the centuries, named "Epistle to Henry II", is a lot of blabling and the only important thing there is the chronology, which says "Adam came 1242 years before Noah, 1080 years after Noah came Abraham", etc... He says this numbers are the way to counting the verses, and the other list of numbers which follows it is an way to counting the dates.

Then he says there are other verses of Nostradamus. There are 141 quatrains called "Pressages", and another set of verses called "sextilhas" in portuguese (dont know how to say it in english), and are a set of 58 groups of 6 verses each. This other verses must be put after the centuries, and using the described way to count this verses, one can find Nostradamus description of how to interpret his work, as its description is encoded in this Pressages and Sextilhas.

The book then explains a bit of it, and it is a very geometric and astronomical thing. Nostradamus used the movement of the planets and the moon to codify his verses. I didnt understand it, as the book only mentions it without further explanations.
The only clear prediction that the book gives, using all this stuff, is the doom of Paris. There says:

"The great city for long besieged (IX,82)
Through fire from the sky the city almost burned (II,81)
The signal to give battle will not be given (X,83)
Who will want to put the Innocent Ones to the fire (VI,19)
In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up (VI,98)
Then he will not know how to put out the great flame. (IV,82)
The great city will be thoroughly desolated,
Of the inhabitants not a single one will remain there (III,84)"

Which is clear enough. Paris will be long besieged, and then will be attacked by air. There wont be firing (signal to give battle) because the enemy will want to kill the civilians also (the innocent ones). Then there will be an atomic bomb dropping, which accounts for the great flame, and also for the fire which wont be put out, and will burn completly the city.

If all the other predictions were in this vein, im very glad he only did put one in the book... :eek:

[Readytoride08]

:thumbsup:Good thread.I can hope it isn't true butit's always good to keep it in your mind,and aviod Paris till after 2012 :D.