The Truth About Hip Hop, MUST READ

[jh80ww]

Alright guys I watched this about an hour ago and can not get it out of my mine, this really opens your eyes, but it also has to do with what you believe/don't believe. This guy has shown me how de sensitized i really am to things going on all around me and has helped me open my eyes. WOW! Alright well heres the links I STRONGLY recomend watching the full video, but if you want some of straight go to it points go to the youtube links.

bone thugz n harmony
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Bone Thugs N Harmony (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5MRlvPYyyNc)

snoop dog
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Snoop Dog (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aEyc32K5Y6I)

jay-z
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Jay Z (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rRA5sCDk1Bk)

full video
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?&autoplay=true&docid=-2512318500146146032&q=TRUTH

now i'm sorry if i posted in the wrong section or anything, just thought more people would see it here :P

ps. Honestly before this video I felt like i had been disconnected from god, but after watching it I realize that it's not totally my fault that I was and didn't believe in him 100%, their are many other factors, but after watching it, it can change your views drastically I think, and I might have to reconsider smoking marijuana :thumbsup:

[chrons]

Bogus.

I don't know about you all, but times ARE changing, and people need to accept the ways now where kids such as Jay Z came in and did what they had to do and have grown smart through it.

Jay Z is probably the smartest rapper out there, he is the male oprah of the "hip hop" scene.

Just listen to some of these current rappers lyrics, they are far worse than some snip of a jay z song backwards, give me a break...they always have to target someone though...

Same with Snoop, look at his life now, and the things he has done, despite his past...I hope nobody agrees with this post :( that would be very sad..


this is no pastor hes just a typical preacher out for your money just by spreading this type of religious propaganda bullshit and making dumb asses believe that it was God's plan.
Remember it takes nothing to become a preacher thats why its so easy for them to take advantage of religious people just like this guy is doing.

[dragonrider]

What a load of crap!

I really do not like most hip hop or rap at all. Some is Ok, but in general it's not my style of music, and I find some of it offensive. But it's not the work of The Devil! Come on!

[TimidK]

lol hahaha ... haha

[TomStoner]

Personally I think the devil would have much better taste in music.

:cool:

[dragonrider]

Personally I think the devil would have much better taste in music.

:cool:

Exactly! Don't you think that the devil would try for somthing with a little wider appeal?

If the devil is only targeting fans of Bone Thugz n Harmony, Snoop Dog, and Jay-Z, then the message to me is that I'm pretty much safe and going to heaven, because I can't stand this stuff.

[Nathan604]

Alright guys I watched this about an hour ago and can not get it out of my mine, this really opens your eyes, but it also has to do with what you believe/don't believe. This guy has shown me how de sensitized i really am to things going on all around me and has helped me open my eyes. WOW! Alright well heres the links I STRONGLY recomend watching the full video, but if you want some of straight go to it points go to the youtube links.

bone thugz n harmony
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Bone Thugs N Harmony (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5MRlvPYyyNc)

snoop dog
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Snoop Dog (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aEyc32K5Y6I)

jay-z
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Jay Z (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rRA5sCDk1Bk)

full video
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?&autoplay=true&docid=-2512318500146146032&q=TRUTH

now i'm sorry if i posted in the wrong section or anything, just thought more people would see it here :P

ps. Honestly before this video I felt like i had been disconnected from god, but after watching it I realize that it's not totally my fault that I was and didn't believe in him 100%, their are many other factors, but after watching it, it can change your views drastically I think, and I might have to reconsider smoking marijuana :thumbsup:


ahaha what a crackerhead

[buttyrekka]

you remember that barbie song a few years ago,that was the devils music!

[b0Ng h!tz 4 mE]

Bogus.

I don't know about you all, but times ARE changing, and people need to accept the ways now where kids such as Jay Z came in and did what they had to do and have grown smart through it.

Jay Z is probably the smartest rapper out there, he is the male oprah of the "hip hop" scene.

Just listen to some of these current rappers lyrics, they are far worse than some snip of a jay z song backwards, give me a break...they always have to target someone though...

Same with Snoop, look at his life now, and the things he has done, despite his past...I hope nobody agrees with this post :( that would be very sad..


this is no pastor hes just a typical preacher out for your money just by spreading this type of religious propaganda bullshit and making dumb asses believe that it was God's plan.
Remember it takes nothing to become a preacher thats why its so easy for them to take advantage of religious people just like this guy is doing.

i sommwat agree but i dont feel they're just out for ya money but maybe trying to create lyrics that people can relate too, sometimes kids can be influenced by music and think theyre gansta or somat just cuz they like hiphop but really theyre just supporting theyre big egos, i mean snoop did wats my name, dr.dre did still dre and real slim shady theyre all just rappin about how hardcore they are

:cool:

[stinkyattic]

Homie, PLEASE. Elvis Presley was the Devil's music at one time... lol.

Take your head out of the sand and understand that art is a response to life. Music is a response to the experience of the musician. I'm happy you have lived a narrow and sheltered life... not everyone has.

Some people grow up surrounded by poverty, sadness, and violence. Do you really expect them to listen to Mozart string quartets, which were commissioned by Austrian monarchs to have played at parties at their palaces, waited on by uniformed footmen and maids, while the poor people starved outside the gates?

Obviously you've never listened to good hip hop with a compassionate ear, or a desire to understand what is actually being conveyed.
Do yourself a favor. Go to the library and borrow a copy of Public Enemy's 'Fear of a Black Planet'. Listen to it. It's an important album politically. Then listen to it again. Write down all the references you hear that you don't know WHAT the fuck they're talking about. For example '911 is a joke'. Google ALL of them. You have now gained some understanding that you did not previously have into the world of that particular group of artists.

See? Open-mindedness is good for ya. That didn't hurt too much. If you feel bad, next time you go see your local spiritual professional, talk to him about it. There's no penance that I'm aware of for enjoying rap music...

I gotta run. There's a really good mix CD in my car that deserves my undivided attention on the way home... It's got Nas, Biggie, John Forte, Outkast, Tribe Called Quest, Masta Killa, Ice Cube, and a bunch of other stuff that's making my skin turn red and sprout goat fur...

[b0Ng h!tz 4 mE]

today was a fookin good day :jointsmile:

[dragonrider]

Mostly I do not connect with rap and hip-hop because of the musical style. Rhythm is important, but I like melody and harmony as well, and it's pretty much lacking in a lot of rap.

Lyrics are really where rap shines, but even that is a mixed bag. Some of it is really good, thought-provoking poetry, but some of it is just crap about bitches, hos, money, cars, gangs, violence and being hard. To me, that reflects a lot of values I cannot relate to. Every genre has it's junk, even the ones I like, but getting to the good stuff in rap requires sifting through the crap, AND getting past a musical style I don't really like much, so it hasn't been something I've spent much time on.

One of the things I liked about watching the Dave Chappelle Show were the musical acts he'd bring on. It was usually a good rap or hip hop artist with a relevant song with something to say --- it was something I wouldn't usually be exposed to.

[Breukelen advocaat]

The trouble with this is that most of the real musicians are not appreciated in this country. The majority of young people do not know the first thing about the only true American art form - which is jazz. Some of our finest and most innovative American Jazz artists frequently aren't even covered by health insurance, while these rappers and hip-hop jerks are wearing a million dollars worth of gold chains around their fat necks and wrists. They can't play musical instruments, for the most part - unless you call scratching a phonograph record musicianship. The styles of baggy pants and loosely-tied sneakers are based on jail attire. Now, I don't blame a "devil", that's ridiculous (sorry, I meant "rediculous"). It's just bad taste, lack of proper upbringing and corporate greed.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Fortunately, there are musicians who value their heritage, and are continuing to bring innovative, creative types of music to the world. Those are the people that should be the heroes of the young - not the "ganstas".

[dragonrider]

The trouble with this is that most of the real musicians are not appreciated in this country. The majority of young people do not know the first thing about the only true American art form - which is jazz. Some of our finest and most innovative American Jazz artists frequently aren't even covered by health insurance, while these rappers and hip-hop jerks are wearing a million dollars worth of gold chains around their fat necks and wrists. They can't play musical instruments, for the most part - unless you call scratching a phonograph record musicianship. The styles of baggy pants and loosely-tied sneakers are based on jail attire. Now, I don't blame a "devil", that's ridiculous (sorry, I meant "rediculous"). It's just bad taste, lack of proper upbringing and corporate greed.

I've heard other people make this claim that jazz is the only true American music, and I've never really believed it. It is definitely of American origin, but "the only?" --- I don't see how that is true. Since this thread is about rap and hip hop, aren't those uniquely American as well? It seems to me like they are of American origin. And what about country, dixieland, rock and roll, and blues? They may be somehow derivative, but all music probably is somewhat derivative, and they have a uniquiely American stamp.

Oh, and let's not forget the absolute HIGHEST form of American music --- the barbershop quartet. You have not really experienced what America is about until you've heard a four-part harmony about slappin' hos.

[Mr. Clandestine]

I'm with dragonrider on this one. I used to listen to some rap, mainly because I was interested in hearing what certain artists had to say about their lives. Tupac, BTnH, old Three 6 Mafia, and a few others. Tupac, in my opinion, was the most influential of all of them. Anyway, the lyrics of MANY rap artists can be misconstrued and made to seem "evil", but much of it is simply recanting past stories of their lives... and MANY rap artists grew up somewhere other than affluent upper-class neighborhoods. That's reflected in their music. If you really want to hear an evil band, bear in mind it's not rap, but check out a band named Deicide. They're the epitome of Satanic music.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I've heard other people make this claim that jazz is the only true American music, and I've never really believed it. It is definitely of American origin, but "the only?" --- I don't see how that is true. Since this thread is about rap and hip hop, aren't those uniquely American as well? It seems to me like they are of American origin. And what about country, dixieland, rock and roll, and blues? They may be somehow derivative, but all music probably is somewhat derivative, and they have a uniquiely American stamp.

Oh, and let's not forget the absolute HIGHEST form of American music --- the barbershop quartet. You have not really experienced what America is about until you've heard a four-part harmony about slappin' hos.

"Dixieland" IS a form of early jazz. In fact, Louis Armstrong, considered to be the inventor of Jazz, played it.

The folk music of early blues, ragtime, country, etc., is definitely part of our cultural heritage, and fine music - but not considered an art form on the same level as jazz, which developed from these types of music. Rock and roll developed from folk music also, but most is not an art form -although certain progressive, "fusion" types definitely are due to heavy jazz influence.

Jazz musicians usually appreciate many forms of music. Some may even like rap and hip hop. This does not make it an art form, nor does it excuse the ignorance in this society of our valuable musical cultural heritage - which is not just jazz, but the roots of it as well.

I have more respect for an old-time clawhammer banjo picker, Zydeco accordionist, blues harmonica player or any number of other authentic folk musicians, than every "rap" or "hip-hop" artist in the industry put together.

[jagarr]

If you really want to hear an evil band, bear in mind it's not rap, but check out a band named Deicide. They're the epitome of Satanic music.


check them out because theyre NICE as rice too.

me and my boy jeez are tight and all but... sry god, im listening to bad music. pretty sure my spot in hell is gona stay warm for me anyways at this point =p

[dragonrider]

"Dixieland" IS a form of early jazz. In fact, Louis Armstrong, considered to be the inventor of Jazz, played it.

The folk music of early blues, ragtime, country, etc., is definitely part of our cultural heritage, and fine music - but not considered an art form on the same level as jazz, which developed from these types of music. Rock and roll developed from folk music also, but most is not an art form -although certain progressive, "fusion" types definitely are due to heavy jazz influence.

Jazz musicians usually appreciate many forms of music. Some may even like rap and hip hop. This does not make it an art form, nor does it excuse the ignorance in this society of our valuable musical cultural heritage - which is not just jazz, but the roots of it as well.

I have more respect for an old-time clawhammer banjo picker, Zydeco accordionist, blues harmonica player or any number of other authentic folk musicians, than every "rap" or "hip-hop" artist in the industry put together.

Hmmmmm... I, personally, would not use such an exclusive definition of "art form." I wonder if that is what other people meant too when they said jazz is the only unique American art form --- other unique American music is not "art."

For me, rap is not very interesting as a musical form, but that is really just my taste, I think. The lyrics are the intersting part for me, if anything. Some of the wordplay and rhyming is genius poetry, which is definitely an art form. I don't really know anything about the cultural links but it reminds me of Beat poetry.

I like some jazz, but I'm not all that crazy about the really improvisational stuff. Some of it is just to "all over the place"
for me. But that's just taste again --- I know some people love it.

I took a class with a Shakespear professor once who was a very respected scholar in his field. He was someone who you expected to have a very refined and exclusive perspective about what is art and what has value as opposed to what is crap. We got on the topic of sitcoms and other trash TV, and he said that if millions of people like something, then there is some kind of value in it. I was sort of surprised by that coming from him, and I try to remember it when I don't like something that a lot of other people do like.

[Mr. Clandestine]

check them out because theyre NICE as rice too.

me and my boy jeez are tight and all but... sry god, im listening to bad music. pretty sure my spot in hell is gona stay warm for me anyways at this point =p

Haha, don't feel bad... I'm a fairly devout Christian, and I'm also a big fan of Deicide, and have been for quite some time. And you're right, I've seen several interviews with Glen Benton, and he didn't strike me as evil incarnate... just a regular dude with alternate beliefs than my own. I can respect that... I'm not as impressionable as I guess some other people can be. I think as long as we don't go out and kill a Christian after listening to their song "Kill The Christian", we should be alright in the eyes of the Almighty. Those that are highly impressionable probably shouldn't listen to this kind of music. Classical/Baroque music is probably more their style.

...because, if you think about it, there'd be some weird shit going on in the world if these people happened to listen to the likes of Cannibal Corpse and Carcass, etc.

[Raisin]

That shit is hilarious...

[Raisin]

Holy shit! He is bashing gays too!

Edit: Pardon my double-post

[stinkyattic]

Ugh. SPAM and fundamentalism don't go well together. Everyone knows you're supposed to serve EGGS with your potted luncheon meat.

[thecreator]

Why do ppl who have a good foundation of rap music always call it hip hop.Oh yea wheres the beef oh my bad wheres the Wu and yes old Wu is hip hop and Snoop dogg is as well for doggy style is nothing but.....peace and love children and where is the Mr.Cheeks Dj.Qbert hell 9th wonder....yea the silence says it all and yes I know I didn't punctuate worth a damn so sue me lol I love this site.

[dragonrider]

... and yes I know I didn't punctuate worth a damn so sue me ...

You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

[CultureCherryPopper]

"If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all."

and

"The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason."

Both from John Cage

When you listen to rap and hip-hop with an untrained, unappreciating ear, your judgments are already blinded by prejudice. I'd like to see some of you put complex thoughts into mere lines of poetry with the wit and clarity they do. Listen to the background track; pick out the different intricate parts that might linger in the background. Good hip hop tells a story, one that, if you didn't already listen to hip hop, you probably couldn't relate to necessarily, but you can dig what the artist is conveying.

Also, check out the Roots' album Things Fall Apart. That album was the first serious hip hop I had ever listened to, and I was hooked. And yes, they play their own instruments. And yes, the turntable effects are all vocalized. Now tell me that doesn't take any talent.

Now, I'd love to tackle Breukelen advocaat's notions of art, but I'm slightly foggy at this moment as I've hit a bud dry spell. IF you check this thread again, bro, ponder this: John Cage said, "When we separate music from life we get art." I on the other hand, can't see the two separated, as they are intertwined. Music is a means of communication of ideas, always has been. How do we take life out of music when it's been inseparable since music's creation? Just something to consider.

[stinkyattic]

lol CCP you gotta enable your rep if you're gonna be posting good shit like that!

[CultureCherryPopper]

That's all the accolades I need, Stinky, thanks. I turned off my rep because I would get into debates with people in the past, and they'd just bomb my rating, so I said screw it. And speaking of Dangermouse, if you really wanna laugh, find Black and Blue, it's Jay-Z mashed with Weezer (their Blue album, of course).

I love music, debating it, creating it, enjoying it. Hell, today I sat a baby grand and played the same D mi 7/9 and C maj 7/9 chords over and over for about 5 minutes, just riffing it because I love the way they sound. And no, I wasn't high. Might be time to scrape the pipes, siiiiigh.

MarquisBlack, always good to see a fellow Ohioan. Where you located?

[Breukelen advocaat]

"If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all."
and
"The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason."
Both from John Cage
When you listen to rap and hip-hop with an untrained, unappreciating ear, your judgments are already blinded by prejudice. I'd like to see some of you put complex thoughts into mere lines of poetry with the wit and clarity they do. Listen to the background track; pick out the different intricate parts that might linger in the background. Good hip hop tells a story, one that, if you didn't already listen to hip hop, you probably couldn't relate to necessarily, but you can dig what the artist is conveying.
Also, check out the Roots' album Things Fall Apart. That album was the first serious hip hop I had ever listened to, and I was hooked. And yes, they play their own instruments. And yes, the turntable effects are all vocalized. Now tell me that doesn't take any talent.
Now, I'd love to tackle Breukelen advocaat's notions of art, but I'm slightly foggy at this moment as I've hit a bud dry spell. IF you check this thread again, bro, ponder this: John Cage said, "When we separate music from life we get art." I on the other hand, can't see the two separated, as they are intertwined. Music is a means of communication of ideas, always has been. How do we take life out of music when it's been inseparable since music's creation? Just something to consider.
Quotes from a John Cage will not make the types of sounds found in Rap and Hip Hop resonate any better to my "untrained" and "unappreciative" ears. They are much more attentive to music that is made by actual musicians, or at least people who are not emotionally retarded, egocentric, insecure philistines.


I happen to see some things as non-beautiful. Thats just the way I think when I hear Rap and Hip-Hop so-called music, especially when it's blaring out of some idiots' car stereos.

Somebody else may say the same thing about music that I enjoy. They have a right their opinion, just as I have to mine.

[Subjekt]

lmao how fuckin stupid....thats all music in general..if you would have done research you would kno who the devil really "WAS" (Angel of Music) most music besides hip hop says explicit shit in there lyrics...fuck it..i wont tell you what to listen to but hip hop is no more offensive than Metal, hard core rock, etc...you people who claim hip hops offensive are full of shit to...i listen to all music and the only difference is the voice....all music the same..as far as hip hop being considered devils music...hmmm w/e ...i dont understand but Metallic & limp bizkit could perform at woodstock causing riots with there music and you call hip hop WHAT.???

sorry i went off , it makes me mad to see people downing one group of music and leave others alone....and i kno one smart ass will consider limp bizkit hip hop ..no he's not..

[samostalan]

Speak out kajlin420! :rastasmoke:

Christianity is the biggest cult on the planet. Oh and yeah Jesus is big and all, but Christianity wouldn't be anywhere if it wasn't for their fable of Satan. If you sit and actually think about it.. Christianity wouldn't have survived 2,000 years without him. "So if I commit an evil act and nothing happens to me.. well shit I'll do whatever I want!" Oh and funny how every Christian is a hypocrite, and the followers at the Church of Satan rarely ever break any of their rules. Their rules are much more reasonable and down to earth compared to Christianity. Both are a joke though. It's sad to see that such an intelligent world is still as superstitious as it was two millenniums ago.

Oh and I think the hardcore Christians are probably the most ignorant people on the earth, side by side with racists. "If you believe in anything else other than Christianity, you're going to hell. Even though I commit sins all day, everyday, and you're a Buddhist monk that is more peaceful than any being on the planet.. you're still going to hell." Man someone needs to educate the two billion followers of that cult really soon before it makes society worse than it is today.

Edit: Yeah back on topic, real Hip-Hop is amazing music filled with creativity and art. The Roots are probably one of the best original hip-hop bands, along side with a lot of foreign and underground groups. All the fake pop-rap they play on the radio now is all bullshit. That superman shit of music and other shit.. what the fuck is that? Seriously? He's talking about whacking off on a girls back, getting her to turn over on the sheets, and then turn back over so she has a cape on herself like superman. And young kids are dancing by the millions to this. America doesn't cease to surprise me.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

This bone thugs stuff scares the guy in the vid? Some skulls, some backwards letters? He'd have a heart attack if he ever looked through a metal album! Yet somehow, all my metalhead friends and I are very peaceful people.

[smok3y]

Man what a load of BS..

That Aint no devil music,He's just a hater..lol

Listin to that fool preach that bs is devils music to my ears...


:rastasmoke:

[greenatik]

please tell me that all you hip-hop / rap enthusiasts listen to living legends/ luckyiam / 3 melancholy gypsies / eligh / zion i & the grouch. etc etc

i know these are all west coast underground groups but they dont talk about smacking bitches and plasma tv's they talk about real shit that everyone can relate to

i love rap but wont listen to the radio

:jointsmile:

[thousandwattwizard]

I agree with you kaljin420, but lucifer was NOT the 'roman god of the SUN', that would be Sol, or in Greek culture Helios.

In latin lucifer merely means "light bringer" from the combination "luc-" meaning light or to shine, and the base "-fer" to carry or bring.

As for the guy talking shit, just open your mind.... What harm could it do? Rather than hate on everything but jazz, you could appreciate the hip hop artists who are influenced by your music or perhaps those who sample it in their songs.

Some of the best musical ears in the business belong to hip hop producers and arrangers.

Just my 2 cents.

[justanotherbozo]

The trouble with this is that most of the real musicians are not appreciated in this country. The majority of young people do not know the first thing about the only true American art form - which is jazz. Some of our finest and most innovative American Jazz artists frequently aren't even covered by health insurance, while these rappers and hip-hop jerks are wearing a million dollars worth of gold chains around their fat necks and wrists. They can't play musical instruments, for the most part - unless you call scratching a phonograph record musicianship. The styles of baggy pants and loosely-tied sneakers are based on jail attire. Now, I don't blame a "devil", that's ridiculous (sorry, I meant "rediculous"). It's just bad taste, lack of proper upbringing and corporate greed.


right on man !!

[justanotherbozo]

Fortunately, there are musicians who value their heritage, and are continuing to bring innovative, creative types of music to the world. Those are the people that should be the heroes of the young - not the "ganstas".

"the blues had a baby and she called it Rock and Roll". Muddy Waters

for real, the blues and jazz are truley American and without them neither Rock and Roll nor hiphop would exist.

[justanotherbozo]

"Dixieland" IS a form of early jazz. In fact, Louis Armstrong, considered to be the inventor of Jazz, played it.

The folk music of early blues, ragtime, country, etc., is definitely part of our cultural heritage, and fine music - but not considered an art form on the same level as jazz, which developed from these types of music. Rock and roll developed from folk music also, but most is not an art form -although certain progressive, "fusion" types definitely are due to heavy jazz influence.

Jazz musicians usually appreciate many forms of music. Some may even like rap and hip hop. This does not make it an art form, nor does it excuse the ignorance in this society of our valuable musical cultural heritage - which is not just jazz, but the roots of it as well.

I have more respect for an old-time clawhammer banjo picker, Zydeco accordionist, blues harmonica player or any number of other authentic folk musicians, than every "rap" or "hip-hop" artist in the industry put together.

i couldn't have said it any better myself

[greenatik]

once again, not all rappers are as mentioned, which is why i don't listen to the radio. 'apple bottom jeans and the boots with the fur' is not considered anywhere near rap in my book.

listen to the song

Eligh - The Lot

That is skill, he is a poet, lyricist, and produces his own beats. I agree Jazz is definite music, but its not poetry. You just can't claim hip-hop as a skill-less genre, you're just listening to the wrong groups. my :twocents:

[OLDJIMMYBONES]

Alright guys I watched this about an hour ago and can not get it out of my mine, this really opens your eyes, but it also has to do with what you believe/don't believe. This guy has shown me how de sensitized i really am to things going on all around me and has helped me open my eyes. WOW! Alright well heres the links I STRONGLY recomend watching the full video, but if you want some of straight go to it points go to the youtube links.

bone thugz n harmony
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Bone Thugs N Harmony (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5MRlvPYyyNc)

snoop dog
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Snoop Dog (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aEyc32K5Y6I)

jay-z
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Jay Z (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rRA5sCDk1Bk)

full video
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?&autoplay=true&docid=-2512318500146146032&q=TRUTH

now i'm sorry if i posted in the wrong section or anything, just thought more people would see it here :P

ps. Honestly before this video I felt like i had been disconnected from god, but after watching it I realize that it's not totally my fault that I was and didn't believe in him 100%, their are many other factors, but after watching it, it can change your views drastically I think, and I might have to reconsider smoking marijuana :thumbsup:

dont know how snoop or jayz can change how you feel about hip hop in a positive way as they just have exploited it for financial gain.

look into Afrika Bambaataa, and KRS-One thats real hip hop

[greenatik]

:thumbsup: ill second krs-one

step into a world ... :stoned:

[Reefer Rogue]

I think he'd make a fantastic comedian if everything he said was meant in irony, too bad he's completely serious. He has a real way with words and by the end all the crowd are on their knees begging forgiveness to the lord.. i can't help but lol

[sofaKing]

Originally Posted by jh80ww
They are much more attentive to music that is made by actual musicians, or at least people who are not emotionally retarded, egocentric, insecure philistines.

At the risk of sounding like some generic rap fan, have you ever heard of Tupac Shakur? please do yourself a favour, read a book.

If people got over their initial predjudice caused by explicit lyrics they'd actually hear the message or story.Hip hop is in no way, shape or form different from any other genre and requires no less talent to make.


Not much else to say after what CultureCherryPopper said tbh.

:smokin: