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SunnySativa
03-23-2008, 12:11 AM
Welp heres newest pictures of my current grow so far so good, but i think im gunna run into a boundry problem [or already am]. If you take a look at the third picture you can see droopin leaves, not all the leaves are droopin though. I thought maybe a water problem but i water the plants a couple hours ago but they are still droopin so im thinkin root bound? Im kinda in a predicament seeing how big and entangled the roots will be with eachother, however i do have a big 15 gallon pot i used in my last grow...currently workin with 5 plants. Three 2 gallon pots, 2 in each pot cept for the 5th, its in its own. Any suggestions? Think i could let it be and it'll still be ok?
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YO PEPPER, HIT ME UP ASAP, i gotta question for you
grey1223
03-24-2008, 06:26 PM
I really don't see the droopy fan leaves so can't comment. Don't know how far along you are so can't comment on space requirements.
SunnySativa
03-24-2008, 08:30 PM
I really don't see the droopy fan leaves so can't comment. Don't know how far along you are so can't comment on space requirements.
They arnt Fan leaves, they are like the smaller ones where the buds will be continue to form at and im about 5 weeks in flower give or take a few days...what should i look for to diaignos the problem of running out of space....if i havent yet, its gunna be pretty close in the end lol
Pepper
03-25-2008, 06:21 AM
I think you may have plenty of nitrogen but not enough phosphorus in your soil mix. The plants need a bloom booster to promote flowering. I think bat guano is what you need.
SunnySativa
03-25-2008, 06:25 AM
Yo pepper, you got any bloom booster that i could get offa you? Get on the messenger so we can talk....but yea i think your right on that
grey1223
03-25-2008, 03:01 PM
If you're 5 weeks into flower your plants are as tall as they're going to get. I wouldn't worry about the smaller leaves drooping a little. In my experience if I'm going to have problems symptoms will appear first on the largest fan leaves. Hang in there, I think you'll do better than you think.
stinkyattic
03-25-2008, 03:18 PM
I see rootbound but at this point as grey said you're far into flower and should be fine. Now you just need to concentrate on making sure that the soil chemistry doesn't go wacky on ya. Keep an eye out for spotting or yellowing. Only one plant per pot next time btw- MUCH better.
Rusty Trichome
03-25-2008, 03:22 PM
however i do have a big 15 gallon pot i used in my last grow...currently workin with 5 plants. Three 2 gallon pots, 2 in each pot cept for the 5th, its in its own. Any suggestions?
Not a good idea to have more than one plant per pot. Especially if the size of the pot (two gallon) is questionable for even one mature bloomer. Roots don't like to compete for space and nutrients. Do you notice a difference in growth between the solo plant, and the groups?
Having tried multiples in 3 gallon pots before:
I tried doubling the nute strength...bad idea, burns 'em good.
I tried separating them. (large butcher knife thru rootball) Ok, but shock sets 'em back at least a few weeks, and weird growth patterns freaked me out. (but I'm much better now, lol)
I tried normal nute strength, but twice as often...so-so results.
I tried foliar only...too hot here in the desert and it burns the leaves. Perhaps a viable option for others, tho.
I've learned my lesson. Best results...one pot, one plant.
Damn, Stinky...you sure type fast, lol.
SunnySativa
03-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Do you notice a difference in growth between the solo plant, and the groups?
Well right now im not using any nuts cuz i dont have any and have been broke for awhile[except some that boost mostly just Nitrogen but im lookin into some Bloomer now]. This grow is still kinda practice to learn from mistakes before i start using chemicals through my entire grow [i gradually am easing into them] but thats the first thing i looked at, if there was any difference in the solo plant and to be honest i dont see any. Same size, looks about the same on development too...I thinkin they wont get any bigger either, i just didnt know if it was gunna be a problem for the buds that are developing, the most important part in the end ya know lol :pimp:
SunnySativa
03-29-2008, 12:34 AM
Weird this is a very slow grow, i havent noticed a difference in growth between the plant in the pot by itself and the ones with 2 plants in them so i guess it must just be other conditions like temp maybe, tho it doesnt usually drop below 70-75 in there, and when the lights on its gotta be around 80....anyway....
PEPPER lemme know when you got that bloom booster posted up in the spot for me so i can grab it and see if that helps it flower faster, i feel like i should be seeing more development and thicker buds then i am right now
SunnySativa
03-31-2008, 03:47 AM
Finally got some Bloom Burst powder to add to my water, its Expert Grower Bloom Burst 10-52-10, best i could find but im adding it to my water as of today hopefully will help my flower stronger....pictures soon
SunnySativa
04-01-2008, 09:03 PM
Heres my updated pictures, grow is goin real slow for some reason but i got some Bloom Burst as i mentioned in the above post.....its nice to finally see some buds developing more, but i think this grow is still gunna be a low yield becuz of the speed its growin
Rusty Trichome
04-01-2008, 10:10 PM
Lookin ok to me. :thumbsup:
Did you add nutes at recommended dilution, or do you plan on sneaking up to a max dilution that your plants can handle?
10-52-10 is quite a strong concentration, just be careful.
SunnySativa
04-01-2008, 11:30 PM
Well my watering containers are those like 20oz Gatorade bottles, and what i do is just add a pinch to each bottle and pour it on so id say around if not under recommended dose, ill prob use a little less and less as i get closer to harvest so when i wash out the nuts it wont take as long
Rusty Trichome
04-07-2008, 02:10 PM
You'll get better results keeping track of the dilution ratios.
There's no way to really help if you aren't keeping track of exactly how much of what stuff you are putting in, and when you are adding it.
Without keeping close eye on the nute schedule and the ratios you add them, there's no effective way to help you troubleshoot.
SunnySativa
04-09-2008, 08:43 PM
Id say about 1/2 a teaspoon of Expert Gardener Bloom Burst [10-52-10] in 20oz of water....watering about every 2 days and about 40oz total in 3 2gallon pots [5 plants], that help?
Rusty Trichome
04-10-2008, 12:17 AM
That's a start. What do the instructions say to use, and do you have any measuring spoons?
SunnySativa
04-10-2008, 05:24 PM
i got measuring spoons [little one im using came with the stuff] Says to feed plants with each watering, mix 1/4 teaspoon to 1 gallon of water, or can i feed every 2-4 weeks with 1 teaspoon per gallon, but i think im just gunna feed each watering which is about once every 2-3 days
stinkyattic
04-10-2008, 06:02 PM
I'd recommend especially with a granular, non-cannabis-specific plant food that you schedule a HEAVY watering with plain pH correct water about every 2 weeks to flush out the stuff the plants didn't use from the previous feedings. I've used that same product to grow pot in the past and it's fine but you gotta watch out for overfertilization and salt buildup.
Just a heads up. But Rusty's got you going in the right direction!
SunnySativa
04-11-2008, 07:10 PM
i was gunna take a picture today but when i walked in there all the plants looked starved for water and i realized, yesterday it was pretty hot around here so i watered them pretty good and ill take a picture as soon as the life returns....it wasnt to bad, but im glad i looked when i did or it could have gotten serious, just major droopage no dried out leaves/buds
SunnySativa
04-14-2008, 02:01 AM
So here is a picture update on my grow, coming along, taken longer then id hoped for but its all good, i finally have some white hairs turning amber, none fully amber, but i can see some tint coming on some
First picture is simple part of my grow and 2nd picture is a bud shot and the third picture is the top of some plants with some kinda deficiency or nutrient burn? The 4th picture is a closer shot of the same plants in number picture 3, cept in a better light so you can see. None of my other plants have it, just the 2 in the same pot
SunnySativa
04-14-2008, 06:52 PM
Dont mean to keep posting [or well i kinda do i guess LOL] but yea just looking for some quick feedback/advice on how its lookin/coming and what i do to remedy my 2 plants with the discoloration incase its serious i wana make sure i take care of it asap...:hippy:
Rusty Trichome
04-14-2008, 07:35 PM
Looks like nute burn to me. Do you double the nutes because there are two plants in the same pot? This is one of the many good reasons to use the "one plant, one pot" technique, lol.
Are you adding any suppliments, like CalMag Plus, Superthrive, any micronutes...?
Stinky gives very solid advise. I too would go with the flushes on a schedule, and perhaps cut-back (a weaker solution, same schedule) on the ferts for a bit.
Likely, if this one needs a flush, the others will need a flush soon, too. How are the leaves actually looking on the others? Any signs of burning at all?
stinkyattic
04-14-2008, 07:52 PM
You gotta go through and flush those plants. There's signs of soil salting on the lower leaves- that is pretty nasty overfert scorch.
SunnySativa
04-15-2008, 12:42 AM
How are the leaves actually looking on the others? Any signs of burning at all?
No signs of any burn on the others at all, using same amt. But im flushing right now and when it heals imma use a more diluted solution when i use it. Its just Bloom Burst 10-52-10...
SunnySativa
04-16-2008, 03:58 AM
The 2 plants with burn seem to be healing up nicely, hairs are starting to turn amber, not much longer now, id say a month tops [i hope]
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