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zzdank
03-16-2008, 10:19 PM
Wal-Mart employees kill suspected shoplifter - Homeland Stupidity (http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/08/10/wal-mart-employees-kill-suspected-shoplifter/) I just came across this article and am so pissed. I feel like going to walmart and breaking everything. Am starting to hate this country so bad. I mean common? wtf??? anyways what are your ideas on this? does not matter if the man stole they had no right to kill him even if he robbed the whole store.

apocolips31
03-16-2008, 10:46 PM
wtf? This is some messed up shit! The man is pleading for his life and they keep his face on the burning hot pavement.

Mr. Clandestine
03-16-2008, 11:21 PM
That's pretty messed up. I worked as a security specialist for a big chain of retail stores for several years, and I was in charge of training all the new hires. The biggest rule I made sure everyone remembered was that if the suspect was a danger to the security officer, to the patrons of the store, or to himself, then it's best to just let him/her go. There's no need for anyone to get hurt over an apprehension, especially if it was over a petty amount. Robberies, assaults, etc., are a different story. But this sounds like nothing more than minor larceny, a misdemeanor. I never liked shoplifters, obviously, and I had to be pretty forceful on a few occasions... but I knew I wasn't hurting anything other than the shoplifters pride by holding him down. Most of my apprehensions happened inside. On that hot asphalt, they should have known that they were hurting the man...

Liability lawsuits can be a real bitch, and it looks like Walmart is about to have a really BIG one on their hands.

HerbalConfusion
03-17-2008, 02:04 AM
Only in texas would you find wal-mart vigilante killers.

ldg420
03-17-2008, 04:30 AM
id be willing to bet that if the "victim" would have never shoplifted they would still be alive today...:stoned:

Mr. Clandestine
03-17-2008, 05:01 AM
id be willing to bet that if the "victim" would have never shoplifted they would still be alive today...:stoned:

Very true, but nevertheless, they shouldn't have killed the poor bastard. Kinda reminds me an old quote from Wayne's World: "Garth, marriage is punishment for shoplifting in some countries."

In Texas, apparently the punishment is death! :jointsmile:

zzdank
03-17-2008, 05:15 AM
Yea am not saying it is right to shoplift but am mean cmon get serious 5 walmart emploeys pinned down a singal guy onto a very hot surface you think that is the right punishment for shoplifting? What did the emploeys get a raise for killing a shoplifter? Someone should go kick the living shit out of the 5 people that did this.

Mr. Clandestine
03-17-2008, 05:46 AM
Yea am not saying it is right to shoplift but am mean cmon get serious 5 walmart emploeys pinned down a singal guy onto a very hot surface you think that is the right punishment for shoplifting? What did the emploeys get a raise for killing a shoplifter? Someone should go kick the living shit out of the 5 people that did this.

I can't attest to Walmart loss-prevention training methods, but I doubt it says anywhere in the LP training manual that employees should pin the suspect down while waiting for the police to arrive. Like I mentioned earlier, protocol for the company I worked for was to detain the subject if it was feasible to do so. Otherwise, just let the person go. Employees have no idea whether or not these shoplifters could be armed with a weapon, on drugs like PCP, or whatever. My employees weren't even allowed to carry handcuffs, so coercion was their only way. Hell, I carried handcuffs and a registered firearm, and only had to use handcuffs once... but I was trained by actual cops how to properly apprehend someone and how to defend myself against an attack with a weapon. I doubt Walmart cashiers are given this kind of training before being let loose at the notoriously dangerous cash registers. ;)

affasd
03-17-2008, 02:06 PM
ok this article is from 2005

Mr. Clandestine
03-17-2008, 03:32 PM
ok this article is from 2005

LMAO... it sure as hell is! I didn't even noticed that, but I did wonder why I've yet to hear anything about it on the news. Thanks for pointing that out! :D

zzdank
03-17-2008, 05:47 PM
Exactly am sure walmart would not even pay for that kind of training. And i know this was from 2005 i thought i would post it anyway apparently none of you guys knew about it. Knowledge is power. :thumbsup:

McLeodGanja
03-17-2008, 05:51 PM
Walmart are corporate thieves.

Mr. Clandestine
03-17-2008, 05:59 PM
Walmart are corporate thieves.

Not saying all of them, but a great deal of corporate business executives are a bunch of money-grubbing assclowns. Worried about only one thing - their bottom line. They could care less about treatment of their employees, and much less about potential shoplifters. They don't even have to steal, if you fit their company mandated 'stereotype of a shoplifter', then they don't like you. When I was doing the security gig, I had to report to district and regional managers almost on a weekly basis... and I got my fill of the corporate world bullshit real fast. Some of these people are absolutely heartless.

zzdank
03-17-2008, 06:04 PM
Not saying all of them, but a great deal of corporate business executives are a bunch of money-grubbing assclowns. Worried about only one thing - their bottom line. They could care less about treatment of their employees, and much less about potential shoplifters. They don't even have to steal, if you fit their company mandated 'stereotype of a shoplifter', then they don't like you. When I was doing the security gig, I had to report to district and regional managers almost on a weekly basis... and I got my fill of the corporate world bullshit real fast. Some of these people are absolutely heartless.

Yep exactly why should employees care about Walmart when Walmart does not give a shit about there employees?

McLeodGanja
03-17-2008, 10:52 PM
technically cuz wal-mart pays it's employees to give a shit not vice versa

And how many employees do you think actually give a shit?

Do you maybe they all feel like they are in a dead end job with fuck all money?

ROBERE
03-17-2008, 11:05 PM
thats fucked up...fuck walmart and there low prices...i stole from walmart once and gott caught but i gott away

zzdank
03-18-2008, 12:04 AM
technically cuz wal-mart pays it's employees to give a shit not vice versa

They get paied minimum wage and no benefits. And walmart makes billions of dollars each year you think that is right?

ATrain
03-18-2008, 02:58 AM
That is some kind of fucked up :wtf: What a terrible way to die

zeitgeist
03-18-2008, 07:07 AM
ok this article is from 2005

LOL, I was wondering why I never heard of this story