View Full Version : HELP!!! i think......
SnSstealth
03-14-2008, 09:16 PM
not sure if we have a problem....plant is still growing healthy...only occured on 2 plants...getting fox farm nutes, by schedule..(lil over) in fox farm ocean forrest..having problems checking Ph. think thats most of the info...3 LED procyon 100W lights...75* and about 55 humidity at all times....what the hell are these spots!!!!.....lol
thanks,
:smokebong:
whiskeytango
any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated....let me know if you need any more info, or have any questions
SnSstealth
03-14-2008, 09:19 PM
pics didnt stay on that one...try again here
Mr. Clandestine
03-14-2008, 09:29 PM
It looks like something might be locked out. I'm not the greatest at diagnosing issues other than my own, but I can tell you that others who are will want to know what the pH of your water AND soil are. This is very important to know. Also, listing what you've been using to fertilize, as well as the frequency of application, might be a good idea. Also, what's your water source? Tap, or distilled/RO/bottled water? Take a look at the troubleshooting form at the top of the 'Problems' section, and fill out as much as you possibly can.
Sorry I can't be of more help, but by figuring out some of the variables I listed above, you should be able to get some more accurate advice. Take care!
daihashi
03-14-2008, 10:17 PM
What's your PH? Looks like ph problem/nutrient lockout or too much iron.
I am not great at diagnosing problems. Just trying to gain expierence here. Though I've hit a couple of people's issues dead on.
Hopefully someone will come in that will confirm or tell you what the actual issue is.
Are you in hydro or soil?
Weedhound
03-15-2008, 01:35 AM
Stealth do me a favor please and fill out the troubleshooting form.....part of your info I know but some I don't......all info helps.
They dont need bigger pots do they?
Weedhound
03-15-2008, 01:52 AM
You my boy (s) have a k def there....you need to check ph of your water, your soil and consider flushing....hang on a sec stealth.....old thread somewhere.....
Weedhound
03-15-2008, 01:54 AM
You ever wonder how I learn all these things?
http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/130810-growheads-please-help-burn-mites.html
Weedhound
03-15-2008, 01:57 AM
Stealth the problem is actually due to lockout as someone else suggested.....and/or fert buildup. I would NOT add more k.....I would check all ph's asap and consider flushing.
Good luck.
SnSstealth
03-15-2008, 08:24 PM
lol......love that link. thanks for the info WH!!! tried to give ya more rep...gotta spread the love i guess...your pics looked EXACTLY like mine....i flushed the hell outta them...how long should i wait to give em more food?
:smokebong:
whiskeytango
Mr. Clandestine
03-15-2008, 08:57 PM
...how long should i wait to give em more food?
Hey SnS,
Mrs. Hound is primarily a hydro lady, I do believe. If you just did a soil flush, it would be a good idea to take the most complete fertilizer you have and give a diluted (about 1/4 of recommendation) feeding to the plants. That should reintroduce a good deal of the nutrients that were just flushed back to the roots. Next time you flush, do it immediately afterwards... while the soil is still wet. The soil will absorb the nutrients more evenly that way.
Take care. :jointsmile:
Weedhound
03-15-2008, 11:02 PM
What Mr C said...:D :thumbsup:
SnSstealth
03-16-2008, 01:46 AM
sweet......thanks mr c;)
WT
denial102
03-16-2008, 02:09 AM
Hey SnS,
Mrs. Hound is primarily a hydro lady, I do believe. If you just did a soil flush, it would be a good idea to take the most complete fertilizer you have and give a diluted (about 1/4 of recommendation) feeding to the plants. That should reintroduce a good deal of the nutrients that were just flushed back to the roots. Next time you flush, do it immediately afterwards... while the soil is still wet. The soil will absorb the nutrients more evenly that way.
Take care. :jointsmile:
This is what helped me recently :)
Right on as always Clandestine
Peace,
Denial
xcrispi
03-16-2008, 07:04 AM
What was the PH of the water you ran thru them to flush ?
What was the PH of the runoff ?
How much water did you run thru them ?
How many gallon pots are you using ?
What strain ?
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:
SnSstealth
03-16-2008, 05:11 PM
thanks for stopping in Xcrispi!!! strain is my jack herer x bubbleberry, F1s....3 gal pots...bout 26 in tall...ran a good 1-2 gallons through the plants...vut few really spotty leaves in half, didnt wanna fully lose the fans...Ph is turning into a monster...tried my stick reader, strips....cant get a good reading on run-off....going to do what WH or stinky said...going to a pet store today, maybe get a Ph tester for aquariums....using fox farms full line...only open sesame, tiger bloom and big bloom right now....um....temps 75-77 humidity 50-55...problem doesnt seem to be spreading......
:smokebong:
whiskeytango
Weedhound
03-16-2008, 06:37 PM
Stealth when that happens to mine and I give them a good flush....I can tell it stops the spots and I HAVE had some spots actually go away after a good rinsing. Hope that works for you. ;)
SnSstealth
03-17-2008, 07:07 PM
it worked!!!!!!! thanks so much!!! flushed it again today while i fed the others...should be all fine now....
WT
Weedhound
03-17-2008, 07:09 PM
:thumbsup: Good to hear.
SnSstealth
03-19-2008, 03:20 PM
ok.....now the 2 plants might be dying i think:(:mad: all the inner leaves are very light green, kinda hanging and soft....flushed em twice...soil is at about Ph7...same with tap water....dont get it.....
stinkyattic
03-19-2008, 03:24 PM
Get the soil pH down below 6.9. Punch extra holes (1/2" paddle bit) in your pots to allow the soil to dry faster. Your roots need oxygen bad, I'll bet- you normally don't water them too heavily, right?
You went too high. Do you have pics of how they look now showing the new problems?
SnSstealth
03-19-2008, 03:38 PM
20 min, ill have pics up, going over now....did poke more holes, still drains slow though....hmmmm
SnSstealth
03-19-2008, 04:03 PM
here's pics of the 2 plants....poked a few more holes...still draining SLOW....flushed twice....they look like they are dying...dont wanna lose these 2 girls....especially the first one...plane ticket from VT to FL??? send marvin to get ya? although, he probably wont like it...
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whiskeytango
stinkyattic
03-19-2008, 04:18 PM
.plane ticket from VT to FL??? send marvin to get ya? although, he probably wont like it...lol, good luck finding an airport in VT that lands anything larger than an ultralight hahaha. Send Marvin. I'll get him baked on some of the happier Mandala stuff- it should cheer his dolorous ass right up.
I'm stumped at why you say they are dying. The new growth IS really light, and looks tender- too much N is a possibility, but the associated darkening of older growth, combined with under-curled leaf edges, is absent. So any N overdose you might have at the moment is relatively early or mild.
Get your pH back in range. Aim for 6.7 if a true soil, or 6.5 if soilless. I want to say that FFOF may in fact be a soilless. Worth checking to be sure. Be careful about overwatering. It's entirely possible that it is time for a larger home for your plants, too. How long have they been in those pots so far? Soilless peaty mixes have a definite lifespan in pots. When you run up against the end of it, you will see a drop in pH and the K def spotting is quite common.
SnSstealth
03-19-2008, 04:24 PM
even at thier height i should transplant bigger? or just transplant....the soft, and see through leaves scared me...lol, kinda droopy...water not draining right....sounds like a new pot needed...lol
thanks stinky;)
:smokebong:
WT
how much should i seperate the rootball when i transfer? not even 2 months in the pots yet
stinkyattic
03-19-2008, 04:30 PM
Plants shouldn't live in the same pot for that long indoors. Read my sticky about efficiency and canopy and the why you should re-pot thing in the FAQs for more of an explanation.
Your medium is old and starting to degrade. The drainage is getting worse as a result, and the buffering capacity of the lime added at the factory is used up, leading to pH drops. New pot with GREAT drainage, plus a fresh soil mix with EXTRA perlite, and you are going to be in much better shape. Don't mess with the root ball. It will be fine on its own.
SnSstealth
03-19-2008, 04:32 PM
thanks;)!!! :thumbsup:
going in there now....
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