My little NL99 plant

[chongman420]

This little lady(hopefully) is about 20 days old and showing some spotting on the lower leaves. It was started from seed in paper towels then placed in Jiffy peat pellets under 4ft flouro. Its now in a 6'' pot in Fox Farm Light Warrior soil. I noticed the spotting when it was still in the peat pellets. Could the spots be from the peat or is it ready for nutes now? Thanks for any advice :)

[BobBong]

i'd say it's time to start a very very light nute.. like 1/2 of the lowest recommended dosage. I've never used peat pellets so i wouldn't be able to tell you if that spotting is from the peat, I wouldn't imagine it is...

Are you pH balancing your water?

[chongman420]

I use tap water ran through a PUR filter that comes out to 7.1 or 7.2 I didnt know if I could Ph adjusting products yet or not

[chongman420]

Anybody else with suggestions?

[Wobster]

I think you may be better using tap water that is unfiltered. Tap water usually contains Mg and Ca that are beneficial to plants and your filter will remove these. You then have to use a micronutrient that has them in. In soil you wanna try and get your ph down to 6.7 for the best nutrient availability. A tip - Don't use malt vinegar to PH your tap water. It changes the ph but over a few days your ph will rise up to whatever it was in the first place. Get some Ph up from the grow shop (Phosphoric acid) or try using Real vinegar (Acetic acid)

[chongman420]

Hey Wobster thanks for the advice! I use Fox Farm Grow Big and I have CalMag also if any Ca or Mg problems arise, I haven't fed it anything yet though. I'll try using the tap water without the filter and see what happens. And for Ph I have up and down adjusters from a hydroponic store :thumbsup:

[chongman420]

It seems to be getting worse. I'm going to try giving it some Fox Farm Grow Big today. What you think 1/4 tsp. in a gallon of water? Ph 6.7 or so sound ok? This is my first grow with quality genetics and I really dont want to mess this up. Thanks:jointsmile:

[chongman420]

UPDATE: Its a little bit bigger and showing some other spotting now. Still growin indoor in Light Warrior soil. Ph has been around 6.8 Does this look like phosphorus def?

[chongman420]

I havent been feeding as often in fear of over fert. Will be transplanting soon too.

[chongman420]

Maybe I'm just always going to have problems, it just seems inevitable. Every grow I've had has had some sort of problem. What's the opposite of greenthumb? :(

[chongman420]

It seems to be on the lower fan leaves only and working its way up the ladder. I know that mobile nutes (N,P,K,Ca,Mg,Fe), show signs of def. on the lower leaves first, thats why I'm thinking P or N because of the red stems and yellowing between leaf margins. I dont know. Stinky, I hope you aren't mad at me.

[chongman420]

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[moneyshotpb]

I havent been feeding as often in fear of over fert. Will be transplanting soon too.

In my limeted experiance I "turn up" the Nutes untill I see slight burn. then back it off a hundred ppm or so.
I realize that you are in soil but the same should stand??

I am no expert but that is not from over fert

[chongman420]

Thanks I was thinking the same

[Mr. Clandestine]

Those plants are pretty tall. Have you checked to see if they need to be transplanted?

[chongman420]

Last night I transplanted them into 2 gallon round plastic pots. I mixed a little Ocean Forest with Light Warrior soil and added a dash of EWC and a pinch of paprika (just kidding). I gave them 1 tsp of Grow Big and 1 tsp of calmag. Hopefully this solves it, but with my luck it'll probably just make it worse. :(

[chongman420]

New shoes

[Mr. Clandestine]

I'm sure they'll be happier in their new homes, especially if they were pretty rootbound before. You won't get the color back in those crispy leaves, but the new growth should be a nice green color and plush. If you have any Superthrive on hand, they'd probably appreciate a drop per gallon of water. The vitamins and other assorted goodies in ST help the roots get acclimated into their new home.

Just give it some time, I think your luck will turn around! :thumbsup:

[chongman420]

Thanks Mr.C!!! Much needed words of encouragement. BTW I do have Superthrive :)

[Mr. Clandestine]

Thanks Mr.C!!! Much needed words of encouragement. BTW I do have Superthrive :)

Glad to help! :thumbsup:

Remember with that Superthrive, though, to follow the directions on the bottle. That's some potent stuff, so you really don't to add too much. A drop or two per gallon of water is plenty. Take care. :jointsmile:

[chongman420]

A couple questions: #1- Are these plants big/old enough to start flowering? They have been vegging for 2 months and they are about 18 inches tall. #2- Can a rootbound condition cause hermaphrodite plants? #3- Besides NL99, NL, and C99, what are some other low odor strains? Thanks!:)

[Mr. Clandestine]

A couple questions: #1- Are these plants big/old enough to start flowering? They have been vegging for 2 months and they are about 18 inches tall. #2- Can a rootbound condition cause hermaphrodite plants? #3- Besides NL99, NL, and C99, what are some other low odor strains? Thanks!:)

#1 Yup, most plants (but not all) are sexually mature enough to flower after about 4-5 weeks. Some growers like to wait until the nodes start alternating to switch to flowering, but due to height/time constraints, other growers like to force earlier. Can't quite tell by your pictures, but it looks like your nodes are already alternating.

#2 Rootbound conditions can stress plants. Stress can cause hermaphrodites. So while the act of being rootbound probably won't cause hermies, the stress they go through with locked out nutrients, slower nutrient/water uptake, etc., can cause it.

#3 You've already listed the biggest low-odor strains that I know of. I use a carbon filter, and so even with the skunkiest strains I've grown, I've rarely noticed an overpowering odor. I'll tell you this: if you're not wanting to deal with heavy odors, stray away from Skunk/Skunk hybrids, dominant Afghanis, and most "White" strains. Some have a very pungent veg stage, while others get really smelly in flower. Some strains are ridiculously odiferous in both stages of growth.

If smells are an issue, think of running a carbon scrubber to an active exhaust in the growroom. That makes a HUGE difference. Take care. :jointsmile:

[chongman420]

I have a DIY carbon scrubber for my bagseed plants in flowering but there is still a noticeable smell. I dont know if its because its a DIY or if the store bought ones work better. I have a thread on the cabinet that shows a pic of the carbon scrubber. I would post a link to the thread but I cant figure out how, but its "Just built this cabinet, tell me what you think". I think a search would bring it up

[Mr. Clandestine]

I made a pretty simple DIY carbon filter that I have running to a Vortex 460, and it does a good job at keeping odors in check. But also the room that it's in is almost completely sealed, which helps keep the smell located in one area, and what gets vented goes directly outside. I checked out your other thread (cabinet looks great, by the way) but I couldn't tell if you were venting outside, or just outside of the cabinet. If you're just venting into the room that the cabinet is in, you may want to think about using something to mask the odors in that room... which should take care of any telltale odors outside of the cabinet. Either that, or your activated carbon might need to be changed. I usually have to change mine about once every two years, depending on how long it's been in use. I'm considering buying a prefabricated one myself, as I'm hearing of people who use theirs for several years without the need to change the carbon.

[chongman420]

Yea its just vented outside the cabinet into the room. I did put a couple of the Renuzit Odor Killer air fresheners in the cab and one at the bottom of my stairway leading to the basement. Seems to help a bit. I got these after my cousin walked in the back door last week and said "Your house always smells like pot." She smokes too but doesnt know I grow and I'm trying to keep it that way. :stoned:

[chongman420]

Hey IR, what do you feed your NL99 plants? How often? Are they light or heavy feeders? Thanks for any info! :)

[chongman420]

I transplanted again the other day into 5 gallon buckets. And started 12/12 light schedule. My soil mix is 2 parts FFOF soil, 2 parts FFLW soil, 1 part perlite, 1 part hydroton grow rocks, 3 tsp. plant success, 3 tsp. high P bat guano. Pics coming soon :jointsmile:

[chongman420]

O my has it grown!! Ever since I put them in 5 gallon buckets they shot up like...well, a weed. And of course without failure, I'm having problems. Lower leaves showing dead spots/blotches. Been feeding Fox Farm Tiger bloom and Calmag. Deficiency? Over fert?

[chongman420]

Feed schedule

[chongman420]

They seemed to perk up more after feeding them. And showed worse signs after the last watering with calmag. I'm leaning towards deficiency. Any advice?

[chongman420]

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[stinkyattic]

Get a pic of the whole plant. Low leaves do naturally die off over time; yes you look like you have a cal def but you need to check your runoff pH and inspect for signs of overfert because if you are giving calmag and still deficient, you are actually locked out and worse problems are in your future if you don't flush and correct either the soil overfert or the ph prblem or whatever it is.

[chongman420]

Snapping pics right now :jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

I just now saw this thread for the first time :wtf: ... my NL99 were light-to-medium feeders ... I fed medium ferts, got just the tiniest tip burn, like I like it ... your lower leaves will yellow and drop as you get further into flowering ... that's normal, as I'm sure you know ... I grew mine in soil, and never had to add Cal-Mag+, etc. ... I'm suspecting you MAY be keeping your soil too damp ... let the soil dry out between waterings, and poke a pencil, etc. up through the bottom of your pot, make sure the soil didn't compact, and restrict drainage ... that's first place I'd look ... good luck :jointsmile:

[chongman420]

Plant #1

[chongman420]

Plant #2

[chongman420]

Both together :)

[the image reaper]

they look OK to me :weedpoke: ... what are ya, some kinda friggin' 'perfectionist' ? ... :S2:

[chongman420]

LOL! IR you always make me laugh :) Maybe you're right, it just seems the lower leaves look kinda crappy. Maybe my thumb is getting greener :greenthumb:

[the image reaper]

by the time mine are ready to harvest, the lower leaves look pretty 'used-up' ... normally, growers judge maturity by the trichomes' color ... me, I just cut 'em down when they get 'too ugly to live' :chainsaw: ... :S2:

[stinkyattic]

They are healthy. Really. If you had much more time left, or were a perfectionist, larger pots would be in order... Hint hint.

[chongman420]

I don't know if I have enough cab space for larger pots. They grew so fast after I transplanted them from the 2 gallon pots to the 5 gallon ones. My 400hps is nearly as high as it can go. I have to give props to all the expert growers here, my plants have never looked better since being here. Getting questions answered really helps rather than just reading in books and having questions unanswered. Thanks everyone! :computerlove1:

[frostymcfailure]

What's the opposite of greenthumb? Sounds like a black toe to me! How's the N-99 looking?

[chongman420]

Not bad, check the pics above ^^^

[chongman420]

Just an update. Heres a couple pics, downward leaf curl in the last one from overfert?

[stinkyattic]

Nope, it's symptomatic of being pot-bound.
But that plant looks EXCELLENT; you do want the leaves to start yellowing close to harvest, and you look to be about 2 weeks out. Keep us posted!

[chongman420]

Don't worry I'll keep ya posted. Right now I'm off to get my co2 tank refilled, again. :jointsmile:

[chongman420]

Just an update for anyone watching. More leaves yellowing and they smell so yummy!! Thanks again to IR for the recommends on the NL99 it's a perfect plant for my situation. Very low odor, in fact, odor so low I took my carbon filter off my exhaust fan for better efficiency and I still can't smell em when I walk into the room. But give the top cola a gentle squeeze and smell your fingers...OOOOWEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Can't wait to smoke!


Keep em growing!
Chongman:jointsmile:

[chongman420]

Sorry forgot the pics! :stoned:

[chongman420]

Couple more. I used some twisty ties to hold the buds up because they were getting so heavy that were drooping down. They are drooping again :). They last pic is of my co2 regulator. Does anybody else have this regulator? If so, are you having problems with it staying set? I got this from the hydro store and I'll have it set to where I want it then it will move up or down in a day or so. A couple times it drained my tank in a day or less. Just ramblin...sorry

[chongman420]

Is there any way to take this thread out of the plant problems area and move it to indoor growing or grow log? I'm not having any problems anymore thanks to Stinky :kisslove: If not, they are getting chopped in two weeks or less so it will be a long lost thread anyway. Thanks! CM:jointsmile:

[chongman420]

Yesterday was day 58 and they looked ready to harvest. So I got out my hatchet and chopped down the forest. :chainsaw: Call me Paul Bunyun. NL99 is a very easy plant to grow and very easy to trim. I'm satisfied with the results. I was only able to get 1 clone out of 6 to survive maybe I need to read Stinky's sig again. Anywho, heres pics of the end result. Until next time...


Keep em growin!
CM:jointsmile:

[wheresmylighternow]

great job:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbs up::thumbsup:

[chongman420]

Hey thanks! nice avatar! I hope someone is nice enough to do that for me when I die :)

[chongman420]

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