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legalize_it420_4ever
03-02-2008, 05:42 AM
my babies arent doin so good the tips of the leaves all seem to be burning/turning brown from the tips inward 2 of my plants allready died from this and im wondering what i can do to stop it my soil is perlite, peat moss, humus, coconut husk fibres, composted manure and lime the ph is 5.5-6.5 its store baught soil n it has 0.5-0.1-0.1 for nutes and they are under 5 13w cfls and 4 26 watt cfls so i got 10800 lumens the cabnit is 2 feet high 2 feet wide and 15" deep i water them once a day and fed them some mollases in the water once i really dont wana loose these plants im thinkin heat is the problem but im not sure i dont got a thermomater yet but it does get fairly warm in there when i leave the doors closed for more then a few hours part of me is startin 2 think i shoulda waited for spring to start these 2morrow im adding ventalation but im wondering if theres anything elese i could do to help them out
carinia
03-02-2008, 05:47 PM
5.5 is pretty low ph for soil grows, I would try to get it definately to the 6.5-7 range. Do yo have a ppm meter or anything? With a combination of all that stuff Im wondering if your soil is 'hotter' than it should be. Also the molasses isnt really needed during veg, its generally used dring flowering for extra sugars (as the nitrogen is generally gone). And watering once a day is a lot of water, are the pots pretty dry every time you water?
First off tho I would get that temp thing! Go get one off ebay, i have an eco plus one that keeps track of min/maxs which is super handy for like 10 bucks. Good luck!
SimonMakus
03-02-2008, 06:51 PM
Carinia is absolutely correct. 6.8 ph is optimum for the uptake of all nutrients in dirt, so get a ph meter/tester solution if you don't already have one and get that ph under control if indeed it's out of whack. Carinia is also right in his observation of fertilizer burn on these poor young things. Maybe a good flush (twice the water in relation to pot size) and see if that will help. If you're having PH problems you're going to have to flush anyway.
Ventilation isn't really an optional kinda deal unless you have ample open space. Get some air on those potential ladies!
9 CFLs will put off some heat. Get a thermometer and a hygrometer right away! Best to get a combo one for like 8 bucks at walmart. If you're not going to be flowering these things indoors the hygrometer isn't absolutely necessary unless you're in a very dry climate.
Also it's much better for growth to start the seeds in something smaller, like a 16 oz keg cup then transplant a few times allowing the roots to fill the medium, but not so much as to cause rootbound.
One more thing, sentence structure is your friend, Leg. :thumbsup:
legalize_it420_4ever
03-02-2008, 09:16 PM
i have a ph testing kit for a pool would that work? what is involved in raising the ph? can i use pool chemicals? lol just playin i think i read it somewhere that a pool testing kit will work i just test the runoff water from the soil corect? and how would i go about raising the ph if it is in fact low? u said the first step is to flush them then what?
legalize_it420_4ever
03-02-2008, 09:40 PM
so i did a runoff test with tap water n it came up as over 8.4 my tap water has a very high ph could this be the problem? i dont know if i got an acurate reading because i tested the tap water on its own after and it looks pretty much the same as the soil runoff the alkalinity is was also very high over 240 ppm these test strips sat outside all winter and it says store at room temperature so i duno if its acurate at all now
legalize_it420_4ever
03-02-2008, 10:52 PM
i just checked the temp n it was over 100 degrees in a few hours i moved them to a greenhouse by my window for now until i can fix that
carinia
03-03-2008, 02:00 AM
Whee thats high. Probably from the lime. Use a buffering agent (I use stuff for fish aquariums, you can get it anywhere) or vinegar to adjust a few gals to 6, and flush away!
The heat is whats probably causing the burn in your case tho, so Id def leave them in that green house until you get that under control. PC fans are your friend. :)
Weedhound
03-03-2008, 03:40 AM
Ps....ph adjustster for aquariums/fish are too high in salts to be good for plants.....do yourself and your plants a big favor.....buy the ph adjusters for hydro. ;)
Maybe it's my imagination but your soil looks.....muddy or something as well.
legalize_it420_4ever
03-03-2008, 03:44 AM
lol wow mixin the vinigar in was tedious a few drops sends it right outa whack either way again they have now been flushed with the vinigar mixed in to bring the ph down around 6now only time can tell i guess. the greenhouse temp is pretty consistant at 68 degrees i dont think theres nethin left to do cept check on em in a day or 2 n hope for the best thanks 4 ur help guys i apreciate it:) the soil is faford veranda plus container mix n i dont got money to buy ph stabalizer unless its cheap im givin the vinigar thing a shot
legalize_it420_4ever
03-07-2008, 02:31 PM
i lost one more but the rest of them seem to be doing much much better for now :)
stinkyattic
03-07-2008, 02:35 PM
The compost was your primary problem. It's too chemically hot for seedlings. Your high soil pH was the other. Flushing the soil to lower it also removed excess ferts and actually helped you incidentally, even thoguh that wasn't what you were trying to do.
You should NEVER give any fertilizer to seedlings with fewer than 4-5pairs of adult leaves.
legalize_it420_4ever
03-08-2008, 07:42 PM
they seem to be doing much better now only a few days later i had another seed sprout n it seems to be doing better then the others were right off the bat thanks 4 the advice every1 :)
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