one month old females/ pink hairs instead of white??????

[daisley2005]

hey these plants are one month old , they were started on the first of feb, its time to transplant i know but can you guys give me some input as to how they look, are they average size for being 4 weeks old, do they look healthy? what kind of food should i give them? 20-20-20 ? and is it too early to start feeding them,, they are just under four 4ft flouro's, 2 cool white bulbs and 2 daylight bulbs, lights are on 24/0 and the seeds were just from a bag of hydro i got (ounce) and one of the buds had a few seeds into it, i started with 15 plants and this is what i have left , they are all female and the hairs that came out on them were pink not white?is this a good thing or a bad thing?

[daisley2005]

plants are 30 days old

[psteve]

Hair color is unimportant.
You're doing fine.
They look healthy!

[hatch]

They have a good deep dark green colour to them, Look Good and Healthy!!.......Later

[daisley2005]

any thoughts on the 20-20-20 all purpose firtilizing plant food, i also have a liquid container that is called "Hortibec rapid grow" and the numbers are 8-10-12..i can't get any of the good stuf where i live as there is no grow shops.are my plants too small to start giving then food?

[psteve]

They are good to start fertilizing.
Out of those two, I would use the 20-20-20 but go VERY light, like 1/4 of what the bottle says.

[daisley2005]

thanks, i'm going to start using it today, how do i know if i'm using too much, or if it is too srtong?

[GaGrown]

thanks, i'm going to start using it today, how do i know if i'm using too much, or if it is too srtong?

You'll see a difference in them after a couple of days.. Just use a 1/4 Tablespoon measuring spoon. Nice plants!

[daisley2005]

o.k. i used a 1/4 table spoon of the 20-20-20 to a liter of water, i equaled the liter of water over the 7 plants, not too much water and not too little, i was using the liter dish right from the start and only watering every 2 or 3 days, soil stays pretty dry actually but seems to be working fine, the plants take a good jump after each watering it seems, i also have a ? about misting my plants with just plain water, will this help them any?, seems to me it would give them more of an "outdoor" feeling as maybe they would just think it's rain, also they take water in through their roots and leaves so this might help them out alot, should i be misting them, and if so how many times a day? 3-4?

[GaGrown]

Use a gallon to mix the 1/4 strength solution......

[daisley2005]

thanks, any thoughts on the misting the plants?

[GaGrown]

o.k. i used a 1/4 table spoon of the 20-20-20 to a liter of water, i equaled the liter of water over the 7 plants, not too much water and not too little, i was using the liter dish right from the start and only watering every 2 or 3 days, soil stays pretty dry actually but seems to be working fine, the plants take a good jump after each watering it seems, i also have a ? about misting my plants with just plain water, will this help them any?, seems to me it would give them more of an "outdoor" feeling as maybe they would just think it's rain, also they take water in through their roots and leaves so this might help them out alot, should i be misting them, and if so how many times a day? 3-4?

With a 1/4 tablespoon per liter of water is full strength...If you are using HID lighting then the misting would cause more problems.The dropplets on the leaf is like a magnifiying glass. It can blister the leaf tissue. The stomata is where the plant can breathe.They do absorb water through the leaves...If the air is very dry then you would be fine.It would evaporate before doing any damgage..Like in an area such as arizona..

[daisley2005]

my room is around 30 degrees c and the humitidy stays around 38-40, i'm using four 4ft flouresents with 2 cool white bulbs and 2 daylight bulbs, have good ventalation, with a 12 inch fan blowing 24h a day, will misting hurt in these conditions?

[GaGrown]

Once or twice a week would do fine...But,very lightly. If your gonna mist them. You should go ahead and use neem oil at an early stage. You assure yourself not to have mites..:thumbsup:

[daisley2005]

was wondering if i should transplant my plants now,

[carinia]

If roots are growing out the bottom of the pot its def. time to transplant. They definately look ready, the rule of thumb is to have a gallon of soil for every inch of plant height. When do you think you'll start flowering?

[Sjapp]

Once or twice a week would do fine...But,very lightly. If your gonna mist them. You should go ahead and use neem oil at an early stage. You assure yourself not to have mites..:thumbsup:

whats neem oil? i think id like to use it. i hate spiders

[smokealot123]

Once or twice a week would do fine...But,very lightly. If your gonna mist them. You should go ahead and use neem oil at an early stage. You assure yourself not to have mites..:thumbsup:

also dont soak the leaves with water, i wouldnt anyway.. think about burnt leaves and yellowing, eww lol nice healthy lookin plant !

[GaGrown]

Neem oil is an extract from the neem tree. It is armour for your plants. When used with protek,an emulsifier.. It will break the reproduction cycle of the spider mite.If they can't feed then they die.

[smokealot123]

whats neem oil? i think id like to use it. i hate spiders

i got this insect soap for $10 at home hardware and never saw a spidermite or insect on my plants ever again

[daisley2005]

If roots are growing out the bottom of the pot its def. time to transplant. They definately look ready, the rule of thumb is to have a gallon of soil for every inch of plant height. When do you think you'll start flowering?

I'm going to transplant today, and as for flowering, when do you guys think i should start to flower.i'm going to let them vegg for another 2 weeks anyway in the bigger pots to try to get some branch growth..

[GaGrown]

i got this insect soap for $10 at home hardware and never saw a spidermite or insect on my plants ever again

Must be Safer's Soap?

[sublime27]

Lookin good daisley!

I would definately think of a repot if you plan on doing one, Seems better to do it before you are too far along in flowering.
Keep up the good work:thumbsup:

[GaGrown]

I'm going to transplant today, and as for flowering, when do you guys think i should start to flower.i'm going to let them vegg for another 2 weeks anyway in the bigger pots to try to get some branch growth..

Do you know whether,or not they are female?

[daisley2005]

Do you know whether,or not they are female?

ya they are female, i started off with 15 seeds at the first of feb, and about a week ago they started to show sexing, i ended up with seven good females(with pink hairs/pistols instead of white), so i'm pretty good to go for a fair amount of bud, i have a 1000w hps to flower them under, trying to get a good size out of the 7 females before i start to flower as space is not an issue for me.i was also thinking on doing that"screen" thing with them as well, is it too late to do the scrog???? and how do i go about doing it?

[GaGrown]

No it's not too late... Just place a frame with a screen on it over the gurls. I would pinch the tops out of them.Right ay the top node. Then again,when they get over the first topping.. You want alot of budsites when scrogging..

[daisley2005]

just transplanted about 20 minutes ago, watered with plain water, transplant went better than i thought it would, easy as hell actually, here are some new pics of the bigger dishes, are they big enough for now? or should i have went bigger.

[daisley2005]

i was just wondering if in my fourth picture if this is what you mean by topping the plant, i did this about a week ago, maybe i pinched a little too hard did i?and if i do use the scrog, should i tie my plants down so they are more horizontaly than straight up?maybe on a 30* angle? so that way the branches grow more up through the screen?

[daisley2005]

i was also wondring how big should the mesh be on the screen

[smpaz420]

hi daisley, nice plants by the way. I have yet to start my grow but i also am looking into doing a scrog and most of the people on here seem to be using 2x2 inch mesh. I was at lowes the other day looking around at supplies and they have a roll of 2x2 plastic mesh that would be perfect. good luck with your plants!

[GaGrown]

That is exactly it! The screen should be 1x1 or 2x2 chicken wire. Make a frame and let them grow up into it. You can pinch the side shoots too.. In moderation,maybe a couple of days later.You'll see what I mean,when you start the scrog.

[daisley2005]

That is exactly it! The screen should be 1x1 or 2x2 chicken wire. Make a frame and let them grow up into it. You can pinch the side shoots too.. In moderation,maybe a couple of days later.You'll see what I mean,when you start the scrog.


are my plants too small to start the scrog now? and should i tie them down on about a 30* angle before i put the screen onto them????

[Sjapp]

Neem oil is an extract from the neem tree. It is armour for your plants. When used with protek,an emulsifier.. It will break the reproduction cycle of the spider mite.If they can't feed then they die.

oh so should i just go to the gardening shop and ask for neem oil? and then i just spray it on my plants or on the walls or what?

[daisley2005]

did any of you guys ever bake your soil in the oven for a bit a few days before using to kill any mites/bacteria/fungus?? my mom does it all the time in the spring , i call her crazy but she claims it works to kill the bugs/mites

[daisley2005]

i was wondering how is the best way to top the plant, pinch or cut?? and if i pinch do i pinch the top right off????

[GaGrown]

did any of you guys ever bake your soil in the oven for a bit a few days before using to kill any mites/bacteria/fungus?? my mom does it all the time in the spring , i call her crazy but she claims it works to kill the bugs/mites

Be ready for the stink of your life!!!!!!

[GaGrown]

i was wondering how is the best way to top the plant, pinch or cut?? and if i pinch do i pinch the top right off????

You did fine with the plant you topped.. Cutting would be the cleanest way...

[GaGrown]

oh so should i just go to the gardening shop and ask for neem oil? and then i just spray it on my plants or on the walls or what?

You mix it with pro-tek just like the label says..... spray the plants,under the leaves and the whole plant... You can even spray the soil... When you go to your garden center tell them your azaleas have spider mites.The less you converse the better you will be! You can get both of these at New England Hydroponics..

[daisley2005]

so, where i just transplanted today should i wait a few days before i top my plants so they dont get too stressed at once. or suld i go all or nothin and top them today as well, and should i tie them down before i put the screen onto them?

[GaGrown]

so, where i just transplanted today should i wait a few days before i top my plants so they dont get too stressed at once. or suld i go all or nothin and top them today as well, and should i tie them down before i put the screen onto them?
You could top them in another day. Just bend them when you put your screen over them...

[daisley2005]

thanks for all the help there gagrown, im probley going to wait about 3-4 days before i top them, and as soon as i op them i'm going to put the screen over then as well, i'll post up some pictures when i get the screen all set up, and again, thanks for your help:thumbsup:

[GaGrown]

Glad I was of some help! Anytime!!:thumbsup:

[daisley2005]

after the transplant yesterday, i had my lights about 2 inches from my topps, so i wake up this morning and the plants were hugging the lights, they grew over 2 inches in less than 24 hours, sms the transplant and the 20-20-20 nutes helped out alot, thanks guys, i'll post pics when i het home from work :):thumbsup:

[ice#1]

the quickest and easiest way to top is grab the very tip of the growth and push it sideways once you get so far it will just pop off alot less stressfull then pinching the top which crushed plant tissue. pluss its safer then cutting the tops out cuase if you slip while cutting you could either cut yourself or cut the plants where you didn't want to cuaseing some serious damage to your plants

[daisley2005]

the quickest and easiest way to top is grab the very tip of the growth and push it sideways once you get so far it will just pop off alot less stressfull then pinching the top which crushed plant tissue. pluss its safer then cutting the tops out cuase if you slip while cutting you could either cut yourself or cut the plants where you didn't want to cuaseing some serious damage to your plants

im thinkingon just pinching the top node, do i pinch it right off the plant or just pinch it very hard? in my pic of the one i already topped i usd a razor blade from my carpentry knike and just cut the top right off the plant.

[daisley2005]

o.k. i transplanted these plants yesterday, woke up this morning and they grew over 2 inches in less than 24 hours.if you compare the new pics from the last ones which are less than 24 hours apart you can see the difference in the plant that i topped..transplant did them good i guess

[daisley2005]

what do you guys think

[daisley2005]

looks to me that they grew a little bit since yesterday..or is it just me

[daisley2005]

just wondering, where i got my lights on 24/0 since the last month, will i benifit from leaving them on for 24/0 or should i lower it to 18/6,

[psteve]

just wondering, where i got my lights on 24/0 since the last month, will i benifit from leaving them on for 24/0 or should i lower it to 18/6,
The plants will do great with anything LESS than six hours of dark.
Your HID ballasts need a couple hours of rest though (if you're using HID), so most folks use 20/4 or 18/6.

[adr0510]

In your main pic with your two outdoor plants where are you growing them? Somebody's private property, public property or your property? Also do you transport the water there or do you let nature takes its course. Is that area fenced off, do you have any problems with animals?

[daisley2005]

well, i never grow on my own property lol and i transport water from a stream, no trouble with animals and its not fenced

[adr0510]

What strain did you use and at what height did you transplant it outdoors. What feed did you use and at what stages did you use it, how much per sq. ft?