Fourth of July Crop

[Shovelhandle]

I like to plan crops' harvests and proving around traditional party times. So, I plan to get going on a new grow in time for USA ndependance Day, Canada Day Holidays and will log all the good stuff, including pics here.

The first steps will be to...
(1) clean the grow area
(2) decide on seeds ( I'll have to get busy and finish smoking and proving last grow's products)
(3) Germinate some seeds.

Sorry I've not been on line.
I've busy with personal and family medical crisis, some extended out of town visits. As soon as I get my grow area ready I'll try and get around to enjoying some of the wonderful threads that are no doubt on these here pages.

Shovelhandle

[theelectrician]

right on hope everything works out, ile be watchin:)

[Shovelhandle]

He's a pic of the plant from which these seeds are derived.
The strain in the photo is the original New England Bubblegum crossed with Foxy Seeds Afghani Dream x BOG Medley.
Notice that the bud is very crystalized. The buzz is remarkable!
This plant was germinated from a hermied Afghani type crossed with the same Foxy Seeds Afghani Dream x BOG Medley.
Confused?

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I've got 13 such seeds in wet papertowel on top of the fridge in a metal tin. I have a dozen small pots ready to fill with fresh potting soil mixture.

shv

[stinkyattic]

That nug shot looks good- did you notice how much of the purple color remained on that purple pheno after drying and curing? I'm curious!
Anyway I'm watching with interest ;)

[Shovelhandle]

Stinky,
The colors do change, so I'm lucky that I labeled each plant's dried/cured buds. The colors are lighter. Right now I'm smoking that BBG like in that picture. When I get into my stash sometime I'll photograph the finished bud next to the growing buds on the old XMAS Grow.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

I put the twelve sprouted seeds into my fresh potting soil mix. There are a dozen pots aprox 1 qt each. I put six pots each in two "window" boxes to help with moving them around. The seedlings are 2" tall. They are lit buy a single two lamp, four foot T-8 6500K. The lamp to leaf distance is about 3". The ambient temperature is 78-82ºf.

Shv

[Shovelhandle]

The seedlings look really good. Kind of tough to get a nice pic overhead. So, I raised up the light fixture and took a picture from the side.
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Shov

[Hennessy1414]

good luck shov! :greenthumb:
all feminized seeds?

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks Hennessy. Fem seeds? I do believe so. Time will tell.

I only have room to flower 6 plants, 8 at the most. So I will keep the best six indoors and try and find some spots for the leftovers, likely outdoors as I don't have any friends who grow who live near me.

Shv

[smok3y]

Good luck man... :thumbsup:
Will be watching this one all the way..

[Shovelhandle]

They have been looking pretty healthy. They have been out of the soil one week, so I watered with a little SuperThrive.

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Shv

[smok3y]

There lookin nice and healthy dude.. What kind are they?

[Shovelhandle]

The seeds are from local Bubblegum plant polinated with an afghani indica crossed with Foxyseeds' Afghani Dream x BOG Medley.

shvl

[zebulon]

So Shov, you are an indica lover?? Or you like the sativas too, just don't have seeds??
The little plants look real nice, good luck to this grow....:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Well, the idea of buying designer seeds from Europe is pretty different to me. I've grown what I could get seeds for, and lately I've been able to get a couplefew clones from some growers.

I've missed smoking the good central/South American Sativas. All there is for commercial is local/Canadian hydro which are mostly indica.

I've been very pleased with the herb I've been growing outdoors and lately I've been also growing a little indoors too. Maybe I'll be able to score a decent sativa or a hybrid that has what I like (yield + buzz + taste + quick finishing) and try that indoors.

Sho

[zebulon]

I think, Power Plant is what you are looking for....:D I have grown it outdoors and it became one of my favorites...it has a big yield, nice high, nice taste, easy to grow, but it is not the fastest finisher...i have read mostly good things about it here on the boards....and a few seeds don't cost that much...

[Shovelhandle]

Oops, forgot to mention that I also put some Bonide Root Stimulator (3-10-3) in that last watering.

Today I set up the four lamp fixture w/ F4T5HO Cool White lamps.
Now I should be all set where I am until week four or later when I'll run out of space and relocate to a larger area.

Shvl

[Weedhound]

I'm feeling patriotic already!! :D

Ps....Did you try to sneak this grow log past me Shov......:stoned:

[Shovelhandle]

Nope, didn't sneek. Your stoned. <G>

Sho

[Weedhound]

Nope, didn't sneek. Your stoned. <G>

Sho


Your point? :D

[CashandPrizes]

I have heard a few different opinions on when you should use root stimulator...

Do you use it as soon as the seedlings start to shoot up?

[Shovelhandle]

I've used the root stimulator to water in a plant when you transplant into the garden or transplant indoors.

The earliest I've used full strength organic fertilizer is at three weeks.
I usually use a 25-50% application of organic ferts at two weeks.
This time I thought that I'd try Superthrive (vitamins-mineral suppliment) and a light dosage of the root stimulator. Definately an experiment, and I sure hope I don't fuck up. :smokin:

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

I ordered a new 400W HPS system (http://cgi.ebay.com/400-watt-HPS-GROW-LIGHT-400w-High-Pressure-Sodium-Lamp_W0QQitemZ180136925188QQihZ008QQcategoryZ42225 QQcmdZViewItem) today. My previous grow logs have used T5HO and T8 flourescents. I figure I'll continue to use the four 4' lamp fixture with T5HO 3000K lamps for supplimental lighting during the flowering stage.


Shvl

[Weedhound]

Cool on the larger light. I LOVE more light. :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Yup, more better light, more, better yeild.

I checked the soil PH yesterday and it was slightly acidic at 6.0. Pretty good, yes?

As the temperature with the six flourescent lamps went to 82-84º I started up the fan, which will also strengthen the stems.

I gave the plants their first dose of BC Tech nutes today (Boost, Grow, Red Thrive Alive).

I've got to gather up some medium sized pots. I plan on transplanting twice, first into the medium pots and 1-2 weeks before 12-12 I'll transplant into the large pots (some 3 gal, and some 5 or 6 gal).

Shvlhdl

[Shovelhandle]

I think these plants are looking great for being only into their third week! I fed again today with BC nutes and foliage feed with Thrive Alive Green.

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Shov

[foxysox]

They look really, really happy!

[Weedhound]

Hey sox...could you check out the clones in my C log?

sorry shov......she's such a fireball you have to move quick.

Well.....my diagnosis....alive.....and they to apprear to thrive. Yep.....stuff's working for you Sbov. :thumbsup: :D

[Shovelhandle]

...the plants. Set up a new 400 Watt MH with side lighting from a four lamp 4' T5HO flourescent. I set the MH at two feet over the plants, to start. The dozen pots took up roughly a 4' x 4' area. I set up a fan, thermostat and mylar relector sheets.

The dozen plants were transplanted into 3 gallon pots and watered in with 10-30-10.

Ill get some photos tomorrow, when the plants get a chance to "settle in some".

Shovl

[hatch]

Ya I think they look Good!!!`~`~`~`/\:thumbsup::jointsmile::wtf::D

[Shovelhandle]

Yesterday I transplanted them in to the first full node, so they appear a little "slammed".

This photo was taken at "sunrise" (18-6). I expect them all to look a little more vibrant later on. :)

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Shov

[Shovelhandle]

I glommed a quartz heater from my mom in law yesterday as I had been concerned with low temps especially at night. After setting it up and testing it out (it really works great, has Hi-Low settings and a thermostat) I decided that I might not need it unless we get another cold snap. With the lighting transformer near the plants the "lights on" temp was 80ºF yesterday. Perfect.

Today I used paper clips and rubber bands to LST the plants. I also fed them with Neptune Fish/Kelp fertilizer.

I'll post photos Friday. :cool:

Shvl

[Weedhound]

Cool.. want to see them lst'd.

[Shovelhandle]

They seem like they shrunk when I LSTed them. Also I've got some older leaves going chlorotic (yellowing). Actually it seems that the growth spurt slowed to a stop when I added the MH lighting. Hmmm.

Anyway, here's a couple of photos, four weeks old.

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Shovelhandle :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

Shov, that yellowing moving up the plant or strictly confined to the bottom set of leaves?

[Shovelhandle]

If the plants were still upright the taller ones would be 8" tall. The nodes are very close together!

The yellow leaves are only on a couple of plants and on the lower leaves. I'll be watching if the plant starts to yellow more. I think the plants are not as deep green as usual. This morning I watered them all with a low dose of BC Boost and Superthrive. I'll keep an eye on em.
I don't think the plants are too wet but if the continue to yellow I'll wait a while to water again.

Any other thoughts?

Shol

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Shov,

That yellow concerns me!

If you have good draining soil I would definetly do a flush just to be safe. They Deffinetly do not look over watered more like nute or high ph burn to me.

[Weedhound]

Don't ask me about soil stuff Shov....:(

[Shovelhandle]

I will check soil ph later this morning. I'll watch them closely for another day before I flush.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

The PH is stable at 6.0
I looked at the plants and decided to flush 'em. A dirty job in my set up. So, I untied or pulled up the LST, run a hose through the buckets for 5-10 minutes each. I did discover that two of the pails had no drain holes. Good catch! I rinsed off the leaves, best I could and after the leaves dried I put the MH lamp back on.

If I set the grow back a week that's better than a weak crop. I hope dem lively up soon! :rasta:

Shl

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

were the ones with no drain holes the yellow ones?

[Shovelhandle]

no, they weren't, JG. So, we'll see.

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Shov,

I read over the entire log this time to see your nute program.

I didn't see if your alternating plane water and nuted water.

Reason I ask is when I went to doing this all my problems went away. My therory on this is when using nuted water every watering any nutes left that did not get absorbed by the plant are then added to the next waterings nutes, then even more did not get absorbed and building up over time causing nute lock.
Alternating between feedings gives the plant time to absorb all the nutes.

Also when transplanting the soil with no roots will build up nutes with every watering.

Just an idea for you to ponder, but works for me and I know you have seen my grow.

BOL JG

[Shovelhandle]

I don't usually mention frequent watering, though I did recently post my schedule on another thread.

During Veg = Water - Water - Nutes (nutes every third time)

During Bloom = Nutes - Water - Water/Molasses

Thanks,

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

I should have known that you knew that. :) I learned from you. Dahhh.

[Weedhound]

Shov do you happen to have a meter that reads ppms or tds? It's mostly for hydro growing so I don't really expect you to but on the off chance.....

[StickyIcky3]

cool grow, ima start in may and expect a early july harvest too :P good luck

[Shovelhandle]

Thining back (looking at my notes), I would not have used the 10-30-10 rooting nutes when I transplanted, at least not on all of the plants. Chances are very good that with the flush they will get back to flourishing.

No, no meters here, Weedy. :D

Sho

[denial102]

wow dude, very cool crossbreads there..

I wish you luck! My red hair skunk plants are coming in week 5 flowering now :)


Peace,
Denial

[Shovelhandle]

Looking carefully at the photos I have of the grow at 3 weeks and again after the transplant and LST, I can see that all the new growth is on the lower branches. Lots of new growth there. So things aren't going to shabby. It's not any worse than when I FIMed my last crop and they went through a slow period of growth.
The few yellow leaves were a concern but I think the flush should turn the trick. :rasta:



Thank you Denial, did you update your log? I'll have to check it out, man.

Sho

ps StickyIcky your going for an eight week grow? Are you using clones?
Good Luck, Bub!

[Shovelhandle]

Plants are growing many little branches now. It appears that I over nourished them as there is a little nute burn on some leaf edges. The flush really seemed to do the trick.

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I'll tie them back again in a couple of days to increase the number of bud sites and keep the overall canopy height manageable.

Shovel

[zebulon]

They look real healthy....nice work Shov..:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

I tried to get a good photo of all the new "tops", but the pics didn't come out so great. There are more new branches growing than I've ever done before. It's an experiment to use LST and no cropping. The plants are staying very low and super compact. I do plan on removing the lowest branches in another week or two. Last grow I removed the bottom six nodes without any loss of buddage, probably gained bud mass by doing that. Maybe I'll try and get a better pic of one of the plants with lots of branching later on today.

Question. If I did think that I'd like to stretch these plants a little, how would I do this without slowing the growth rate?

Thanks

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Shovelman :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Here is one plant, two views.

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ShOv

[Shovelhandle]

I return from Boston for 3 days and I find my 2 week old MH conversion bulb emitting a weak bluish light. Luckily I was still running my 4 foot, four lamp T5HO lamps.
I removed the MH conv. lamp and put the HPS lamp in and it's burning bright. I was thinking that the plants could use a little stretch anyway

The plants are looking wonderful though! Tomorrow I'll give them a drink and tie 'em back down. I had untied them for the weekend because the plant was actually blocking a lot of light from some of the inside branches. I will probably veg for three more weeks (total of eight weeks) before I flip 'em.

Shovelhandle

[Weedhound]

Bummer about your MH.....plants look quite happy to me.

[Shovelhandle]

This morning I watered and foliar fed the plants with B1. I trimmed away a lot of the lower vegetation. I tried to LST the plants and snapped two plants right in half! Oh, NO! Well, no problems I have plenty of plants. I cut the stems, dipped in clone gel, stuck 'em in the post with the remaining plant, sprayed with water and covered with saran wrap. I will see what happens.

Anyway, here is the first preflowers on day 39 of veg.
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This is the plant with the preflowers, it's starting to put out 11 fingers.
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Here's a pic of the grow, before today's LST.
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Shov

[stinkyattic]

They look really bushy and healthy. This is such a good example of a VERY SIMPLE grow technique that WORKS! It's nice to see someone who just floats right through a grow because he is so used to it. We'll all get there someday ;)

[Shovelhandle]

:giveflower:

Awe shucks, thanks Stinkyattic.
I'm a dilligent reader and have learned a lot about indoor growing right here on cannabis.com. Still a lot to learn.

As every grow takes four months or more, it would be a long time learning from our own experience without this site.

[Weedhound]

Broke a few eh Shov? Congrats.......you are now a practised LST'er!! :D

[Shovelhandle]

Broke a few eh Shov? Congrats.......you are now a practised LST'er!!

:giveflower:
And a flower to you too, Hon. <G>

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Here's a quick peak at the plants at six weeks.
I have just finished (carefully) moving the tied down branches around and a light water. Still under the HPS, waiting for the replacement MH to arrive. One or two more weeks and I'll flip them to 12-12. I still only have the one plant preflowering the others still have opposite branching. Every day the plants put out new nodes on the main top as well as the side branches.

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Shov

[Mississippi Steve]

How do you keep them so short?? mine are 24 and 26 inches tall, even after FIM, and still growing a couple of inches per day.

[Shovelhandle]

I'll have to get a photo. <G>

These things are thick at the soil line and most of them are shaped "S". I usually FIMed but tried something diff this time. I cut the lowers back a week ago, usually I would let nature run it's course but the lowers never produce jackshyt.
Also, I am used to growing with flourescent lamps, which although not stretchy are not as compact as this. This is Bubblegum, which I have a lot of experience with growing outdoors...and sideways. <G> So, maybe it's just me? lol

Shov

[Mississippi Steve]

I'll have to get a photo. <G>

These things are thick at the soil line and most of them are shaped "S". I usually FIMed but tried something diff this time. I cut the lowers back a week ago, usually I would let nature run it's course but the lowers never produce jackshyt.
Also, I am used to growing with flourescent lamps, which although not stretchy are not as compact as this. This is Bubblegum, which I have a lot of experience with growing outdoors...and sideways. <G> So, maybe it's just me? lol

Shov

These are my 2 California Indica (Sensimillia) plants... The big one is just starting to try to show sex, the smaller one has not yet. the 2 plants in the clay pots are Arjans Ultra Haze#1(front) and Afghani Hindu Kush (behind)
The Indica plants have grown over a foot in the last week after FIM.

[Shovelhandle]

...from last year's Spring grow. Same genetics as this grow. Plant was FIMed on week 6 photo is from week 7. Notice the "shaggy" topknot.

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Ya, they are squat, but lots of bud sites.

Shov

[Mississippi Steve]

...from last year's Spring grow. Same genetics as this grow. Plant was FIMed on week 6 photo is from week 7. Notice the "shaggy" topknot.

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Ya, they are squat, but lots of bud sites.

Shov

Silly question...can you FIM the branches too??

[Shovelhandle]

but I don't know if FIMing the branches would result in more bud or not. I haven't intentionally tried that.

Shov

[smok3y]

Lookin good shov :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Made some plant soil today

40lb of Hyponex potting soil (straight, no nutes)
40 ponds of composted cow manure
bag of vermiculite
bag of perlite
a little bit of peat moss.

Mixed in a childs wading pool and bagged it up. I transplanted two of the plants that were in smaller containers into 5 gallon pails.

I'm thinking of flipping to 12-12 this weekend, which will be seven weeks of veg. The plants are getting full and I don't have enough room as it is. Photos on Friday.

Shv

[Weedhound]

Hey Shov are you familiar with a potting soil called Happy Frog? Can you plant seedlings in it?

[bombdiggity]

but I don't know if FIMing the branches would result in more bud or not. I haven't intentionally tried that.

Shov

lol Shov :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Nope, I remember seeing Shultz, Miracle Grow, Jolly Farmer, and store brands (Ace Hardware, etc.). I've seen the products in the catalogs Fox Farm etc. What's Happy Frog?

I put together my own soil. Usual recipe as I posted. I often add worm castings but I didn't have time to scout those out yesterday.

My well water tests PH 7. My soil runoff is aprox. 6.5 so I think I don't have to add any sweetener (lime). Comments, Please?

ShOv

[Shovelhandle]

..and I put seedlings directly into this soil. I've tried the seedling mix. It's really not necessary imo.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Well, I'm running out of room fast. And almost all of the plants are showing preflowers (all females). So I changed the (4) T-T5s over to 3000K lamps (I'm already running the 400 watt HPS). Timer is reset to 7 am-7pm. I will probably add two 26 watt CFL warm whites for the corners, 42 watters if I can get to wallyworld.

See, it's pretty crowded already. Wish I could share a couple of these bubblegum hybrids with someone.
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Shov

[stinkyattic]

Someone wishes they could share too :( Those are beautiful!
Weedhoud, Happy Frog is fine for seedlings.
Shov, do you make your soil mix in the summer for NEXT year? That's good planning! I always run out in early spring!

[Weedhound]

Stinky....thanks for frog info. :)

Shov your plants are looking terrific! Looks like it's going to be a REALLY NICE July 4th!

[Shovelhandle]

Well, I'm running out of room fast. And almost all of the plants are showing preflowers (all females). So I changed the (4) T-T5s over to 3000K lamps (I'm already running the 400 watt HPS). Timer is reset to 7 am-7pm. I will probably add two 26 watt CFL warm whites for the corners, 42 watters if I can get to wallyworld.

See, it's pretty crowded already. Wish I could share a couple of these bubblegum hybrids with someone.
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Shov

[Weedhound]

Yeah I really feel terrible for you......too many nice healthy happy plants. You poor bastard you......:wtf: :D

[Shovelhandle]

Hey, somethings gotta go right, we're still in the middle of winter here. ;)

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

I made a decent size batch. Just used a little to repot a couple o' plants and the rest is for the next grow. I like to get the stuff when it's available local because I do run out too. And then I have to make a trip to Big City to get some of the ingredients. Also, it's hard to mix all that up in the shed in the winter. :(

Shov

ps, Jesus loves you, jacko :)

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Looking real nice Shov. How tall are they?

They look ready to flower but I see you still have some horizontal space. I wait untill 3/4 of horizontal space is full, I keep my plants LSTed to no higher than 8'' untill I can't see the bucket looking strait down. Then let them veg vertically until they are 12'' to 16'' tall. this all takes around 6 to 8 weeks.

Just something you may want to try. oh yeh forgot one thing. something else I do is trim the fan leaves that cover any new branch top from direct light. This is 90% of the time the ones that point strait up when you LST and I remove them at that time. Branches seem to grow quicker when I do that.

[Shovelhandle]

I don't know how tall they are. A couple were snapped off so those are shorter. A few are "S" shaped and those are the bigger plants. The shorter plants may be 10" tall?

Maybe it's a optical illusion, but looking from the top the horizontal plane is pretty green and dense already. The footprint of the twelve pails as close to touch is 48" x 32". I feel that the one 400 Watt HPS is stretched as it is to cover that area and as the plants grow taller the light may not penetrate to all the bud sites. I really didn't think that I'd be finishing all the plants when I started. I'm not used to having 100% healthy females.
I have the 2' x 4' four tube T5 for side lighting and will have to use a couple of CFLs or a 4' florescent to add light to the other side. I've grown experimenting with lots of ideas, this grow is diff as I'm not FIM or cropping at all, just LST. I don't want to trim fan leaves at this time. I did trim quite a bit of the bottom branches, as I've found this effective.

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Yeh I realize there are going to be differences between our grows ( ex. light, space, ect. ) But 12 in that space is going to be cramped. I can't fit more than 9 plants in 5 gal. buckets in a 48''x48'' space under a 600 watt HPS.

Also when you say bottom branches do you mean the small weak looking ones that grow from nodes facing the dirt or the ones that form from the first nodes? Reason I ask is the branches that form from the lower nodes produce the largest colas except for the main cola that forms from the main shoot.

[Weedhound]

Jeez....nice bud in your avatar there jerry!

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Weedhound:

That is from my current grow that is at harvest right now. Stop by and take a look. "second grow from cloans and THC Bomb seed"

Btw that is a White Widow cola.

[Shovelhandle]

I realize that. I explained how that came to be and I really do not have a solution except to 86 a few of those plants. I can't get myself to do that and I dodn't want too expand to another grow area. If I did I might let them veg until I could get them outdoors. Eventually I will have to deal with removing some of those plants, but there aren't any that deserve to die.

As far as cutting the bottom branches, I usually end up cutting the bottom branches eventually as they become totally shaded and produce little. I've cut as much as six of the branches off the bottoms with no loss of buddage.

I really appreciate you continued input, JG. This is not my first "load of pumpkins", I've been growing outdoors off and on for forty years, annually for the past eight or so. The indoor grows are failry new to me. I've learned just about everything I know in the past two years. Much of that knowledge from folks like you. Thanks.

So, what to do with the extra plants? Last Spring I threw some females out...hated to do that.

Shov

[zebulon]

It would be a real shame to trow out such beautiful & healthy plants...and you can't put them out because it's still too cold...:(

[Shovelhandle]

A conundrum, yes it is. :smokin:

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

Looking real nice Shov. How tall are they?

They look ready to flower but I see you still have some horizontal space. I wait untill 3/4 of horizontal space is full, I keep my plants LSTed to no higher than 8'' untill I can't see the bucket looking strait down. Then let them veg vertically until they are 12'' to 16'' tall. this all takes around 6 to 8 weeks.


Plants are all 12-14" tall, except for one shorty, 10" tall. The buckets are different heights but I try to even them up. They are six and a half weeks old. Here's a better shot of them from overhead. The color is adjusted for the HPS to show better.

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Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Much better pic,

I see you have already gone to flower so the best I can suggest is when warmth comes to your area put the under performers outside. They will go thru a slight shock due to the light change. But should continue to flower. That way you will not have to sacrifice any:)

[Shovelhandle]

But "warmth" doesn't come for six more weeks. Memorial Day weekend is customary outdoor planting in this area. Even at that, it's dicey. So, at that time I'll decide whether to transplant outdoors or to finish the crop, if I don't have to move some of them out first. It's all good. It's not like I pay for seeds.

So, in six more weeks they will be one the downhill slope to harvest. I hope to get some new genetics (Blueberry) to try with my next grow, which will also include Foxy Seeds genetics.

Thanks again JG,

Shovelhandle

[Shovelhandle]

I added a couple of side lights (warm white CFLs, 42 watt and 26 watt). I'm also considering removing some fan leaves as prescribed by JG.

If I can't pull a leaf behind a branch to keep it from shading a branch tip then I'll cut it off. Any other details about this?

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

You must live way up there in the great white north. I'm down in the middle and it will be safe to plant outside, in about 2 weeks is the last frost record, So I will be going outside soon.

I bet you will figure something out like you always do. I go by the principal any buds big or small are better than no buds. Hell I can't even kill a small cloan, I'll figure out a way to get some buds out of her and maybe learn something new.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Sorry Shov did not see your last post.

Is there a way to tie them back or just cut the leaf blade/s that are blocking the light?

But to be honest I have no problem cutting my plants in fact I prun almost all the fan leaves around week 4 or when the buds start growing strong. I know this goes completely against anything you have done. But you have seen the results I get. This is only a sugestion and may be worth an experiment in your case since you have so many plants. :)

[Shovelhandle]

Do you mean four weeks from now when buds form? I think that might be a good measure. I'll trim some plants and leave others alone.
If you could link to a page with pictures of your grow with the fan leaves tarimmed it would be great. (with dialup I could spend all day looking)

Thanks

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Shov,

Sorry I didn't clarify, yes it is at week 4 or 5 of flower when I prune.

I can't figure out or this damn thing and it won't let me post a link. So the best I can do is post a pic of my second grow at week 5 around 5 days after I pruned.

[Shovelhandle]

I did look back at JG's log, thanks.

No pics today. I did feed with BC Bloom nutes, Neptune Fish emulsion and B1 foliar spray. I double potted one plant, ala BOG.
Also, I thought I'd experiment with the two plants that were snapped off at the top. I took all the branches and twisted the tops of each so they flop down. I forget what they call that, but it's all in the name of keeping the grow lowered.

Only one of the dozen plants have not shown pistils yet. I love it! All Females!

Have a good weekend, Loggers! I'm headed out on my motorcycle to scout the county. ;)

Shovel

[Shovelhandle]

It's getting crowded. I hung another two lamp 4' 3000K T8 and broadened the footprint a little bit. Folded some leaves back but otherwise I'm letting them flower vertically. Plants are looking fine and healthy.
The transpire four gallons of water every other day. Nutes with every other water. I'm out of the Technofloura Products so I'm back to the Neptune organic fish emulsion for now. And the Technoflouro B-1, which I used for foliary feeding. Today will be the last of that (foliar).

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Shov :thumbsup:

[zebulon]

They look really great Shov....like a see of green....beautiful....:thumbsup:

[bombdiggity]

amazing plants dude. im subscribing right now!

[Shovelhandle]

Here's the plant that I "nested" the pots ala BOG. Everything is looking fine. The other eleven plants look pretty much the same except for one stretchy plant, which looks real nice in it's own way.
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Shov :)

[hudson88]

Wow shovel, that's one hell of a good looking plant. Can't wait to see it growing big fat juicy buds :)

[Shovelhandle]

It's exciting to imagine how it will be in just another eight weeks...stuffed ina pipe! <G>
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Shvl :D

[bombdiggity]

looookin nice :)

[Shovelhandle]

I picked up some suppliments yesterday. Awesome Blossoms, which I won't need for a couple of weeks, and Cornucopia Plus Necessary Plant Energy TCA acids. It was suggested to use the TCA acids with every watering (and also I was told that it was very strong, so I will use 1/2 dose).
I used the tca this morning with fish emulsion and a drop of Superthrive.

So, the flowering feeding schedule will be every other day.

1) Plain water with tca.

2) molasses water with tca.

3) Neptune Fish emulsion (2-4-1), Awesome Blossoms (2-11-11), and tca.

The plants are really stretching nicely, letting light into the middle and lower areas.

Shovelhandle

[Shovelhandle]

I forgot, I'll also be using Top Max with the nutes for bloom weeks 4,5,6 and 7.

Shv

[Shovelhandle]

The Bubblegum hybrids are from 18" to 28" tall and have a nice, airy structure with lots of bud sites. I removed a few more lower branches today when I fed them. Also, I had to lower the plants to gain headroom. They are all (12) very happy. Here's a couple of photos of a group of four as they are drying off after their "shower".

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Shov

[liquidclarity87]

let me know if you'd feel like hitting the volcano !
your work is great!

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks, liqui.

Going to the rally Saturday in B-town City Hall Park?

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

umm. I can't open my photo upload....

[Shovelhandle]

one dozen bubblegum hybrids at 24 days of 12/12. No trimming, clipping, cropping or mutilation of any kind. Just genteel LST during a 38 day seed to adult cycle. 33" max height.

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[hatch]

They are getting with the Program!!!!!!Nice even canopy, They are really going to put on the weight, it appear's. Great Job. Going to be some sweet Bud!!:thumbsup:

[jessejames12345]

Very nice Shov. How do you find the 'Awesome Blossoms' , just bought a bit myself.

[hudson88]

Yeah looking great shov, i'm jealous, I want a bigger garden like yours!

Have you used the top max before? I'm considering getting some.

[Shovelhandle]

Yes, I've used both the Top Max and Awesome Blossoms before. They seem to be good organic supplimental nutrients. I've grown without either also and it wasn't a lot different. I just want to give them all I can to finish with a fine smoke. :rastasmoke:

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

a couple of shots of girls up on the bench.

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[Shovelhandle]

Here are a couple of pics of two individual plants and the dozen all together.

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[bombdiggity]

damn that bubblegum looks nice. I hope my rip-off bubblelicious turns out something like that.

[Shovelhandle]

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[Weedhound]

what size pots are those shov....3 gallons?

PS....LST is MAJOR mutilation in my book....:D :stoned:

[Shovelhandle]

hi WH.

yes, the pails with the lips are 3 gallon. also there are two 5 gallon, one 4 gallon and a doulbe decker 2 gallon. <G>

[Shovelhandle]

WH sez...PS...."LST is MAJOR mutilation in my book....
May-11-2008 20:38"

hey now! I only busted the heads offa two of 'em. <G>

[Shovelhandle]

I first noticed the trics growing in the last photo in this thread. I checked for smell that day and half or less had any odor yet. But when I checked for trics today there were plenty. Mostly starting on the shorter plants directly under the HPS. And the smell...was good. :)

[zebulon]

Hey Shov....beautiful looking plants there, already so nice forming buds and trics...and they look so healthy too...:thumbsup:
If you keep all plants till the end, you gonna get a big yield for sure....you are not worried that it might gonna get a bit crowded??

So you are going for Serious Seed's AK-47?? That will be also an interesting grow...can't wait to see those too....
Keep it up....:thumbsup:

[hatch]

Looking Great Bro!!!!!:thumbsup:

:pimp::pimp::pimp::pimp::pimp:

[jchap]

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4 weeks remaining?

nice plants btw

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks Zeb and others. It is crowded I knew that was going to happen a while ago. I couldn't stand to dump any plants as no one wanted any. I don't think crowding will cause a big problem. The lower fan leaves have been getting used up and falling off.

I love it when they start to smell. Then you can kind of tell how good they are going to smoke and taste. Mmmm... Smells like nice hotel soap, kind of sweet and floral.

I have had this kind harvest at 56 days all the way to 80 days. That would make 29 days left. I will probably find some to harvest early and do a couple of plants every few days until done. Unless the trics start to go over 30% red.

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Looking very nice there Shov.

Surprisingly it looks like you are going to have enough room for all your girls.:) You made it thru the strech so all they should be doing is putting on weight from here on out.

Very beuitful looking plants.

JG

[simguy665]

i wish i knew how to get my pants that bushy and healthy, but im on my first grow and i have lots to learn for sure.

great garden you have there!

[JaySin]

Lookin good. Your plants appear to be in the same stage of flowering as mine. Although my grow is a lot smaller with only three plants. I wonder how close our harvests will be. The only problem I have is I don't have anything to smoke in the mean time. So I'm definitely anxious to see how my first grow turns out. I can hold off another month though. :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

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Photos from last weekend

[Shovelhandle]

Forty days into weed flowering and they are doing great. Some buds are 2" - 3" caliber. Some are getting crystals and smell nice, typical of my bubblegum strain, it smells like flourel soap from a fine hotel. MMmm.
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All together now for a bath.
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Shov

[hydrocannabis]

damm shovel. thouse plants look great as hell.:thumbsup:

damm thats gunna be a lot of bud U'll have to toke on for a long time.

[Shovelhandle]

"damm thats gunna be a lot of bud U'll have to toke on for a long time."

shucks, what to do, that to do...

Thanks Bub!

Shov

[Weedhound]

Wow! I aspire to grow some soil plants anywhere near that nice. Great job Shov! :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

I think they're doing well. I'd like to see them finish in three weeks. That would be 8 weeks of flower 5-1/2 weeks of vegging.
So, only a few more weeks, if I don't fuggit up I'm all set for a bit.

:yippee:

[bombdiggity]

hahah i love your avatar it just made me crack up for some reason

[SnSstealth]

lookin gorgeous shov!!!
whiskeytango

[jessejames12345]

yea man, they look great, hope my budz get that long and frosty :)

[Weedhound]

Those really ARE some nice long buds.

[hatch]

WOW!!!, ..........Awesome Canopy, The Bud's look to Be Right on Schedule, Love to see some Close Up's............Veg'ed for 5 1/2 week's, there going to really be some serious dense Cola's....Great Job....Can't wait to see what You are going to do next?????:pimp::pimp::pimp::pimp::pimp:

[Shovelhandle]

I decided early on to LST only on this grow. However, I snapped the tops off two on week six, one week before they flipped to 12-12.
Here is a photo of the two topped plants. As you can seen, one is more productive than the other, though both are healthy plants. The lower leaves have been getting used up and dropping off. The height of the shortest plant is 25"
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Here's a photo of some of the taller plants. The tallest is thirty-three inches.
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Lots of the buds are very long. It's hard to get the full length in a closeup photo.
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Here are the two topped plants in front of some of the LSTs. I'd have to say that LST proved to be the best producer in this grow, by far!
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The trics are still filling in on most of the buds. I tried to get a good shot for Hatch but they just don't comeout very well. The hairs and trics get bleached out by the flash, I guess.
Anyhow, a couple of weeks and I'll start picking. The wee topped plant will be the first to hang.

Irie,
Shov

[Weedhound]

Yeah Shov you poor thing.....can't get THE ENTIRE COLA in one shot......You'd better give those to me and I'll do something with them. :D

[Shovelhandle]

I had an emergency evacuation of a hermie in the pot. I was watching for it as it's in the odds but I'm lucky to have my bil to spot this one. I've looked at these buds so long that I slacked. Two stamen sites, one on a big branch one on a minor branch.

Plant is in low light/finish lighting and away from the rest of the grow, which looks trouble free for the moment. But no dought that a few seeds are present in this crop. Final results will be the lesson here.

Shov

[WizzleWazzle]

shov,

I know your not supposed to talk to any "wizzlewazzles" but I have to compliment you on those beautiful buds you have going.

wish I could have been around earlier to help you with that overcrowding :jointsmile:

Best of luck with the rest of your grow! are you in the north or south of our nice little state? I am in the burlington area

[Shovelhandle]

I'm up north in Franklin Co.

Harvest really looks like it will be on time, eight weeks. That means this Saturday will be 8 weeks. I've been out of town (passed by Stinky's old town) and very busy with work and family crisis. I got to get checking trics asap. I'll try and get a pic posted of the hermie and the others, that appear to be uneffected, praise The Lord.

l8r Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Here is the only hermie out of the dozen plants. As you can see, it has very little male parts. See the little yellow things? There is also some seed developement but not a lot. The buds are hard and dense, the smell is sweet and I'm sure the smoke will be great. The trics are some clear some cloudy and maybe 2% amber.
I flushed with a hose for half an hour yesterday and today it is put in darkness for a day and a half or two before I cut it down to dry. The other plants are kicking ass and will be done right on time on June 14th. The hermie should be dry and three weeks of curing time by July 4th, the "deadline". So, we'll have fresh medicine for the holiday.

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[stinkyattic]

Those are really well done.

In that group bath photo, can you tell which is the pale one? It looks like it is a heavier feeder than the others. Also, have you tried finishing them in slightly larger pots? Your yield looks like it is going to be fantastic already, but I'll bet you could get even more with more root space.

[Shovelhandle]

Stinky,
I had all the light I have in the area available and not an extra inch to spare. Next time I may have less plants. I should keep my eyes open for some buckets I can use to nest BOG style to provide more root space next grow.
The yellow plant I can't identify but it may be one of the cropped plants as it is a short specimen sitting in the front of the class. BTW, where you at (e-mail me)? I went up 91 Wed and was wondering if I might have passed by your way?

Thank you,

Sho

[stinkyattic]

You did. I'm in the Valley. Somewhere between New Haven CT and Newport VT. :D
Shoot, I would definitely have loved to grab a bite!

[Shovelhandle]

Only one week to go. These plants have been flushed and now get water only until their end. A couple of different phenos, spear shaped colas where the calyxes actually spiral around the bud and the traditional Bubblegum odd shaped main cola. Also, one plant is going purps. Looking nice. Another week of trics and Game On!

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[hatch]

MMMMMMMMMMMM,WOW!!!!!:thumbsup:

[SnSstealth]

they look AMZING shov....congrats...I have heard A LOT of good things about foxy seeds:thumbsup:
whiskeytango

[hydrocannabis]

holy moly. I want my buds to look like that.:D

[Shovelhandle]

Not a lot of "Foxy" in these plants actually. It was a bubblegum mother polinated by a hermie afghani x Foxy ( Afghani Dream x BOG Medley). All three of the strains I've been growing, Afghani, Foxy's Afghani Dream x BOG Medley and Bubblegum all can stand on their own.

SHov

[jessejames12345]

yea man , Nice indeeeeed :)

I only hope mine come out looking half that good in the next week or so .

Are you harvesting at all coudy , or wait for a bit of amber on there.

Nice job :thumbsup:

JJ

edit ;

Purple one looks EXTRA pretty :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

I'm harvesting at 56-60 days. lol

The trics are looking like they should be perfect by then. They are about 50/50 now with an od amber or two already.

PS Stinky,

I think that yellow plant is the one going purple.

[greenatik]

looking delicious shovel, great work :) :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Not much going on, the hermie is cut and drying (well, trying. It's 100% RH today). The rest need a little while longer to pack on trics and ripen.

Here's how far my hand can go around this bud!
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Here is the purple pheno.
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Shov

[SnSstealth]

nice....lookin great shov
whiskeytango

[Weedhound]

I can almost smell it from here.....!!!

[Shovelhandle]

Althoug we can smell it coming in the door, Bubblegum isn't really too stinky. Most of the plants really have a mild odor, a few smell a little stronger. It's a sweet, floral smell.


Here's a nice sized stinky bud outside. The next photo is all the rest together.
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I'm pretty sure I'll be cutting these down in a few days. They are already riper than most of the last crop that bloomed for 9-11 weeks.

Shov

[JeffersonBud]

Are you using a lens filter on your camera? Looks like a polarized cover in the one with the sky

[allrollsin21]

those plants are gorgeous.

Do you think the purple will spread downwards? Does it ever? I found the gdp i grew only turned purple where it was getting direct light from the HPS. and more so at the top of the plant.

Anyhow enjoy that goodness

[Shovelhandle]

no lense on the camera, Jeff.

Thanks, the purple bubblegum occurs maybe one in twenty. It hasn't really spread very much on this plant and I don't think it will as I'll be cutting soon.

[iriebowl]

wow juicy looking buds. yours are like double the thickness of mine, 2 thumbs up.


stay irie

[hatch]

Althoug we can smell it coming in the door, Bubblegum isn't really too stinky. Most of the plants really have a mild odor, a few smell a little stronger. It's a sweet, floral smell.


Here's a nice sized stinky bud outside. The next photo is all the rest together.
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I'm pretty sure I'll be cutting these down in a few days. They are already riper than most of the last crop that bloomed for 9-11 weeks.

Shov

Hey Shov., What's UP????..........Love The Pic. With The Sky BackDrop!!!!!!.........Ya They Are Looking Ripe, Happy Harvest.

They Will Be Good & Cured For The 4'TH...........:pimp::pimp:

[Shovelhandle]

Here's the first bud, just about ready to cure for a couple of weeks before Fourth of July where it will be rolled and smoked. There's also a bag of branches drying with all the rest of the buds and nugs.

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[GreenDestiny]

wow, how'd you get so lucky to also have buds flowering outside this early in the year?

You've got a fine indoor crop there too

[Shovelhandle]

No, it's not an outdoor plant. It walked outside to have it's picture taken. <G>

[Weedhound]

You took it outside for a photo?? :eek: Did you buy it some diamonds too??? :D

[Shovelhandle]

no, just a short walk, wise-ass. <G>

[SnSstealth]

i fuckin LOVE BB....well plated sir...they look lovely, and great pic!
WT

[Shovelhandle]

I wish my photos were a lot better.


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[hudson88]

Them pics look pretty good to me shovel and your girls look great, gonna be some weight there ;)

[greenatik]

you wish your photos were like mine and I wish my buds were like yours!

:thumbsup: fatty buds looking real good shovel

[Shovelhandle]

Today I flushed and added an exhaust fan to the outdoors. This will help a lot during drying and controlling odor for furure grows.
Ths trics are looking mostly cloudy with a few ambers. In a couple of days I'll shut the lights for a day and pick, hang and dry the 11 plants. The hermie that I picked a week or two ago is now curing in jars and is smelling nice.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Here are photos (first five out of eleven) of each plant at 60 days. They all smell about the same to me now. Just taking these photos my hands and nose were sticking to the camera. <G> I wish I could take nice macros like Hatchman. I'll try and bet some nice bud shots some time.

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[Shovelhandle]

Bubblegum X (6-10)

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[bombdiggity]

DAMN those buds are big!

can u take a pic with a soda can next to one or something, for scale?

either way though, WOW they look good.

:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

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It's the runt, yet it still has some tight, sticky bud. Yah Mon! :rasta:

By the rivers of Babylon - The Melodians

[Shovelhandle]

What ja doin' jumpin' into ma post, mon? LOL

I'll will put some scale when I do the bud pics, ok?

Be irie, mon.

[jakezking]

Shovel, those are some wicked lookin' buds! I can't wait to try growin' some good strains like the bubblegum - it looks like some sweet tastin' stuff. Keep up the outstanding work!

[Shovelhandle]

Bbgum has been popular here for decades. I got my genetics from a comm. guy's seed stash. I also grew out some clones of his and was very happy. This grow seems to exhibit hybrid vitality, ya know? Really stout buds. Better than ezra.

[stinkyattic]

Vetty nice, hiii five.
I don't think it's the lighting- but holy crap, :eek: they all look real nice and silvery. The purple one is pretty but they all look damn juicy!

Heads up too... up where you are, if you were seeing 'Elvis' (which turned out to be 'TrainWreck') you should be seeing 'Daddy's Girl' in 3-4 months. And maybe 'Black Indica' too. A little bird told me. ; )

[SnSstealth]

very nice shov!...congrats on a very sucessful grow...enjoy:thumbsup:...wht time should I be over?...lol
WT

[zebulon]

Wow Shov....I would love to be your neighbor....:D
Those are some pretty beautiful plants...Can't wait to see the bud shots.....:thumbsup:

[hatch]

:pimp:Can You Say " Sweet Bud" Nice!!!!!:pimp:

[Shovelhandle]

I have some "Sweet Bud" seeds but no plan to start them yet. Here is a photo of the purple pheno. Smells sweet though, Hatch!

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I just spent four hours harvesting. Next I'll have to clean up and I can call the cable folks to come install cable, and a hvac tech to service my heating system.

Thanks folks.

[jakezking]

Dang! Shov, those are some fine lookin' buds, especially considering they are from your "runt," eh? Those are some mighty orange lookin' hairs. A quick question on the hairs - are they simply dried pistils? And, if so, I'm guessing the genetic makeup of each particular strain dictates the color of such pistils/hairs, as I've seen a variety of colored hairs on here - I need some silver strain to match my graying hair!

Glad to hear your harvest is arriving, so you can get caught up on your home maintenance and repairs! A service-related guy came by my house yesterday, and my wife let him in the backyard where my plant is growing. I told her next time to tell them our dogs bite, and to have them come back later once I am able to rearrange all of our potted plants to hide my lil' lady.

I'll ramble on. Be good out there, my friend!

[Shovelhandle]

yup dry pistils.

thnaks, bub!

[hatch]

Say Bro, Why The Sad Mood?..........Pick Your head Up Bro, It's a Beautiful Day!!!!!........Great Harvest, Your Bud's Turned Out Marvelous!!!!! Relax My Brother & InJoy!!!!:pimp::pimp::pimp::pimp:

[Shovelhandle]

Well, was woke at 6:30 am by a poundin at the door, dog barking. Guy asked if I owned the Chocolate Lab? No, but it lieved down the Country Lane across the road from us. Guy hit the SOB. That lab and it's next door neighbor dog run around across the road all the time. Road is a busy truck route. The owner lady come over (dog was dead on our front lawn) and she was bawlin. Very sad.

Shov

[hatch]

Sorry To Hear Bro.:(......Ya, People Drive Way To Fast!!!!!

[bombdiggity]

That purple looks delicious. Lucky!


And as far as the dog goes, that is really sad. This is why people shouldn't let their domesticated animals that they care so much about just run free in the streets. I dont mean to be insensitive, but c'mon - what do they think is gonna happen?

[Shovelhandle]

I was worried about those dogs every day. It's a very busy truck road 50 MPH limit. Those dogs would bolt across the road, never looking. The poor fellow who hit the dog was very upset too.

Thanks for the props, Bub! I'll report on the herb in a few weeks. I've tried the plant I pulled earlier and it is potent.

[Shovelhandle]

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[Shovelhandle]

The kolas make the Coke can seem small, don't they? <G>

[Shovelhandle]

Notice the scars from supercropping.

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Thanks for looking,
Shov

[stinkyattic]

Nice harvest! Let's see, if the dry weather keeps up, you'll be one well-medicated Grill Meister at the holiday bbq!!! :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks. I still have some foxy seed purp and some afghani from my last grow. That's some very nice herbs.

Now I have to keep my head straight so I can qualify this next bunch o' buds. At least I've only got one strain with three kinds, the early hermie, the purple pheno and all the rest seem very much the same. It's still early in curing, but the early bud is decent. I'm going to touch off a bowl in a little while. I'm really anxious to try the stuff that's drying, of course. Also, I'm curious to know the totals.


Now I won't have to grow for a good long time. :(

Shov

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Very nice work as usuall Shov.

Never had the chance to sample bubble gum yet. I may have to order some of that in the future.

Sorry to here about that lab, I owned one before and I would be compleatly devistated if it were mine. Hope they learned that they need a fence or one of those invisable radio fences.

GREAT WORK JG.

[Shovelhandle]

I'm concerned about drying. We've had rainy weather since I cut and hung the plants two days ago. I'm running a box fan and an exhaust fan in the dry room. The temp is only 67° so I added an electric unit heater in the room to bring the temp up for a while. Any suggestions here? thanks

I did have one bud with a wee bit of bud rot when I cut. I put that brattwuerst sized bud in a dry place after I picked off the rot. Well, I tried to smke a bowl of it today. Not dry enough, but very potent anyway. yessireebob.

[Weedhound]

Sorry to hear about the dogs.......its strikes me as amazing what people will let animals do....running around in the street (do you let your three year old child do this also???) and then getting angry at the person who hit them.......when the fault very clearly lies with the neglectful owner........(off soapbox....)

Beautiful harvest Shov.....well done!! :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

About the dead dog...the owner was very sad, upset but not blaming anyone but hereself. I want to see if the other neighbor's dog gets put back on the wireless fanse that they had for her or they let her run till she's hit. (they all get hit on this road, we've even seen a horse hit. I saved another horse once when I went out hand held it's mane until the owner came. Pretty site, me at the side of the road in bathrobe and slippers, the horse standing on my foot!

Anyhow, here is a photo of a pice of bud that I had to cut a little rot out of. It's drying much faster than the hanging buds.

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Sho

[jessejames12345]

woo hoo :) , looks tasty :)

Im probly going to be harvesting this weekend as well. What are your thoughts on the 36 hour dark period before harvest, ...make a difference ??


Peace
JJ

[Shovelhandle]

Well, I don't really know. For years the question has been, when to harvest? Wet or dry, dark or sunny? I've concluded from reading smart people who write books that it's best to pick a plant at rest and in good health (not too wet or dry). The hairy Spanish author says 36 hours of dark, so I go with that now. If you'd like to try and prove his theory, just pick some herb the day at the end of the day when you plan on shutting off the lights. Then when everything is all dried and cured you can report on any major significance in going with the dark period. Thanks.

Shov :jointsmile:

[jessejames12345]

hairy Spanish authors are all the proof I need. Into the dark they go...
Thanks :thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

I'm unsure of that whole thing about Jorges article. It's been so long but I remember a confusion about it on this site. Some say that Jorges says 36 hours of dark before harvest, others say that it said 36 hours of darkness before flipping to 12-12. I do know that I've been doing it this way for a while before I ever heard of Jorges Cervantes. But I still don't really know why? :stoned:

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

I did just find a post on a UK420 site where a mate says that Jorges 2006 Bible is the source of the 24-36 hours of darkness before harvest will increase THC. I believe I read it in a magazine article, also mentioned in the post.

Sho

[hudson88]

Anyhow, here is a photo of a pice of bud that I had to cut a little rot out of. It's drying much faster than the hanging buds.

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Sho

Mmmm looks sweet shov ;)

[SnSstealth]

it sends the plant into a panic...gushing out resins to try to catch that last bit o energy....there you get your more potent nug...I drive a nail through the stalks as well as the 36 dark...but thats an old country boy method...not sure if it works, but it dont hurt:thumbsup:
supposedly aids the panicking=more resin....just MHO on the dark theory....

well grown nugs shov....enjoy:jointsmile: whens the party?
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[Shovelhandle]

July 4th!

[SnSstealth]

Ill grab my hiking boots........:jointsmile:
WT

[Weedhound]

Hairy spanish author !! :eek:

[Shovelhandle]

Allrightynow,
after six days of hanging with a fan and an exhaust I put 'em in three 12' x 12' x 20" cardboard file boxes. I'll check until the stems snap in two and then cut the buds off the branches and cure in jars.

Sho

[jessejames12345]

...but thats an old country boy method...not sure if it works, but it dont hurt:thumbsup:
supposedly aids the panicking=more resin....


Ive even heard that some guys SIMMER their roots in sugar water before they hang them....crazy stonerz:jointsmile:

Thanks for clairifying :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

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not so good of detail, them buds really look fine up close. Notice a couple of the purps? Hmmmmm! Still box drying for a while. unfortunetly, I knocked off a couple of bowls of keif when I shot them pics. Yi!

[Shovelhandle]

that cardboard is four foot across. (what? 1.25 meter)

[hydrocannabis]

dammmmmm that looks great.:D

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Very nice Bounty there Shove,

Also I have read and agree with SSnstelth therory, I also do 36 hours of dark and have noticed the buds are much stickier afterwards.
Plus they are more yellowish therfore less cloriphill due to no photosynthasis, making the buds better tasting when smoked. This what I have noticed when I do it.

Looks like your going to have one hell of a great 4th and keep all the smokers away from the fireworks:)

JG

[jakezking]

Shov, that is one helluva haul, my friend! My mouth is watering! You will have one heck of a party with all of those fine ladies - lap dance anyone? (Sorry to the ladies on this great board for such a sexist remark, but the idea of dancing buds was too much to resist.)

I always learn something new from every post and thread I read, and I really appreciate the 36 hours of darkness information imparted in the most recent posts. I can understand in theory why it would work, and to hear individuals' experiences with such a method is extremely helpful! Thanks to you and all the posters herein!

Keep on rockin' in the free world, Shov! Be good out there!

[Shovelhandle]

I'm rockin and burnin, Fat Elvis. :)

[stinkyattic]

Yarrr! Nice booty. ;)
That should keep you going for a few, eh?
I caught a horse recently too that was standing in the road eating weeds at the edge... I had a leash with me luckily that fit the ring on its halter, and the horse (big dopey draft) didn't even stop eating when I clipped it on him. People gotta remember to check their pet enclosures!

[Shovelhandle]

Neighbor has a couple of teams of Perchurons. One mom, daughter team, Rose and Penny are eatin/shittin powerhouses. lol

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

I weighed the dried plants at one pound twelve ounces. After I removed all branches and stems the total weight is 16 Ounces = One Pound of nice buds. We should be good to go for a while. <G>

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Thanks for sharing the excitement of this grow with me.

Shovelhandle

[zebulon]

Nice work Shov, beautiful harvest there....looks like you gonna have medicine for quite some time...:thumbsup:

[SnSstealth]

hmmm, can i hike there by next fri?...lol, good booty shov:thumbsup:
WT

[Weedhound]

Oooo I LOVE percherons.....are they are nice dappled gray??

[Shovelhandle]

these percherons are honey colored

[bombdiggity]

nice harvest shov

pound o' bud - must be a good feeling!


i dont think I've ever had more than a QP

[Shovelhandle]

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Thanks for the comments, folks. :rastasmoke: I'll be farting around in the veggie garden until later this summer before I start my next grow, which will be AK-47 and Nevilles' Haze.


Shov

[Shovelhandle]

These are younger.

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People have all kinds of horses, their mom lives across the road and raises Vermont Morgan Horses.

Shovl

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

harvest looks wonderful, nice job staying with all those plants in that small space. I would def be happy with the turn out...1lb is a nice round number lol. again very nice work shovel.

Looking forward to seeing the Neville's and ak47 log, couple of wish list grows of mine. I'll be sure to check in.

[Shovelhandle]

A preliminary smoke report.

Smells like Bubblegum usually does, sweet.
Smooth taste, not much expansion.
Potency is strong, I'll say 8/10. Has white out potential as head rushes after a couple of hits is common. Good body high, relaxing.


Plants were 3' tall and dense.
Flowering 8 weeks
Yeild 500g/M²

[zebulon]

That's great Shov....have a nice 4th....:hippy:

[Shovelhandle]

Additional Smoke report.

There are seven jars of curing herb, each has some distinguishing physical qualities. We were smoking two varieties, a red hair bud and a bud with less hair and sweeter taste.

Both have a great buzz, with no anxiety. Very energetic and creative high. I'm very pleased with these plants.

Shov

[jakezking]

Sounds like you have great bud producing a great high, which you should not tire of for awhile to come - being nice in and of itself given the fact YOU HAVE A FLIPPIN' LB OF IT! Shov, you have done a helluva job with this grow, and I'm happy you have some incredible results to show for it!

Hope your 4th party exceeded your expectations for it!

[Shovelhandle]

Well, today I took half of the trim from this grow and another oz of trim from my last grow (about three ounces all together) and making some cannabutter. All chopped and mixed, it's cooking on the stove for all day and into tonight. Not sure what I want to make with the butter yet, maybe just a butter and jelly samich for breakfast tomorrow. :)

I just opened a jar with 1.25 oz of plant #8, which had a wonderful smell, different from the others. Just a little bowl, three light hits, and I'm set for a while. Hope all you fine peeps are enjoying your Friday!

Sho

[SnSstealth]

mmm..sounds lovely shov...great enjoying you own bounties huh?..
WT

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks S,
I am enjoying. Hope you all are too.
Hey, great smilin' dog avatar! Ginger, the boxer likes to smile too. Maybe I can catch a photo sometime.

Shov

[lunarose]

Shov,

Just was checking your grow log what beautiful plants you grew. I have never tried an inside grow it intimidates me(G)

I am definitely going to try the 36 hours of darkness before harvest you suggested, it makes perfect sense.

In the past I have used aquarium charcoal bags and those silca bags as a desiccant agent to help with drying when the weather is cooler or wet. You can pick up a bunch of those bags on amazon for less then $10 and they are reuseable.

[Shovelhandle]

Yes, drying was a challenge with the humidity this time. Luckily, we got some dry weather and everything is crispy. Thanks for the silica and charcoal idea and looking forward to your grow log.

[MVP]

Hey Shov,

Nice buds there amigo. Something about a bunch of jars brimming with quality home grow herb that just makes me smile. Love that you make cannabutter, it is the best for edibles IMO. Gives one the flexibility to make oatmeal cookies, canna-pesto pasta, and some sweets like Stinky does.

Congrats and here's to a 16 oz independence celebration for months to come!

MVP

[Weedhound]

hey just saw the horse photos!! Great pics! I've never seen palomino percherons before....now I want one!! :D

[Shovelhandle]

Wish we could all burn up some buds together. Had some great lemon/poppie/herb bread for brekkie this am. What a day! lol
Listening to Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros now. :dance:

[hudson88]

Wish we could all burn up some buds together. Had some great lemon/poppie/herb bread for brekkie this am. What a day! lol
Listening to Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros now. :dance:

Haha sounds like you're having fun, yeah be great if we could have a cann.com meet and try each others bud, roll me a spliff of that sweet gum shov ;)

[Shovelhandle]

This plant was purple in flower and had nine small colas rather than one or a few main colas.

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Smell, Light and Sweet.
Taste, Sweet like the other bubblegumX but also has a strong hash taste. 9/10
Potency, Nice buzz, heavier than the others but still energetic. 9/10


Shov

[HotCloset]

can only hope mine come out this healthy.